Why Run To Church

This is an answer I wrote to a question, why do they need a fix every week, from church, if the fix is so weak, it needs to be that regular.  (I agree with the assessment)…

This is my answer, and it is so good, I want to share it here and with my facebook:

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It is like a baby, on the breast. That baby cannot feed himself, so depends on mama for it. But there should come a time, when that baby grows up enough to feed himself. If this never happens, that baby has been stunted and is deformed, and will never be an adult; probably will not live long.

God said in Isa 28, to whom will he TEACH doctrine and to whom will he teach knowledge….those who are WEANED FROM THE BREAST AND DRAWN FROM THE MILK….
meaning
the milk of the word.
Grow up and eat the MEAT OF THE WORD.

This is just simply not available in CHURCH, the mama.

But there is a sickness with these ‘mama’s. they do not want their babies to grow up and learn to feed themselves and LEAVE THEM.

So they do not take good care of the babies, do not feed them anything but watered down sugar water…thus keeping them invalid babies, all their lives.

this is the truth, no matter how many hate it and deny it. It is the truth. babies, in church, never learn how to live by faith.. If they did, they would leave the mama and go out into the world teaching the truth, as Jesus commanded us to do.

Now, when I was a baby, in the Apostolic church, it was so glorious to go there and have that wonderful Holy Ghost bless me, shout me about, speak in tongues and all the rest…BUT.

I knew I was starving for the WORD. THEY DID NOT HAVE THE WORD TO FEED ME.

God had spoken to me in the Baptist church, and said, if you are going to be fed, you are going to have to feed yourself.
Later, he told me to leave that church and never go back. I obeyed.

Later, in the apostolic church, God spoke to me and said, if you are going to be fed, you are going to have to feed yourself.
Later he again told me to leave that one also.
So now, I do not run to mama for the breast.

I study the Word and God feeds me the deep meat of the word, I think it would be good if I could still enjoy the Apostolic meetings. But I cannot bear what I now see is not right with the Word.

The baptism of the Holy Ghost is ALL THEY HAVE TO OFFER, AND THAT IS A MILLION TIMES MORE THAN ANY OTHERS HAVE.

But– COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE. Grow up. Outgrow the need for those teets. You need the meat of the word.

By: Jo Smith, 9/16/11

ADAMS SIN-YAHOO

This is one of my answers from the Yahoo Q/A, concerning Adam and Eve:


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People say just anything, not knowing one thing about God’s word.  I am appalled when I read some of these answers, because nothing of the sort is written in Scripture.  Are people not afraid to add to God’s word is such a manner.  Apple?  There is not one word of that in Scripture, nor any fig.  shew.

Now the answer as to what the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is found in Isaiah 65…and 66  …and Romans 7.

When you find out what this ‘tree’ really is, then you will have the answer to this question.

Isa 65: 3,4..Read the whole chapters.
this shows a people that sacrificeth in GARDENS, and eat swines’ flesh.
66:3, shows how God hates these animaal sacrifices and offering oblations is the same as offering SWINES blood.
Who did this?
v17..They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind ONE TREE IN THE MIDST, eating swine’s flesh…

Romans 75..the motions of sins, which were by the LAW, did work in our members to bring forth FRUIT UNTO DEATH.

THE DAY YOU EAT OF THAT TREE YOU DIE.

v7..I had not known lust, except the LAW had said, thou shalt not covet.

v10..the commandment which was ordained to LIFE, I found to be unto DEATH.v9, I was alive without the LAW…but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died,

the day you eat of that tree, you die.

v7……I had not known sin, BUT BY THE LAW.

It is clear that the LAW is that tree of the knowledge of good and evil.  Its fruit is DEATH.
They went into law.  worshiping the creature rather than the creator.  Romans 1.
They tried to sanctify themselves by LAW, (behind that tree in the midst of the garden)…
They killed and sacrificed a pig/swine, eating its flesh, as the Israelites did cattle.

Thus law and eating animals became their ‘sanctification’,…which thing God hates. Isa one and 66.

If you want truth, study these chapters.

Edit:  Adam and Eve were not the man and woman in chapter one of Gen.  This is the perfect world, of Jesus and his bride.  god declared the END from the beginning.  Chapter two is Adam and Eve.  In the kingdom of Jesus, we will not eat animals.  Nothing will.  But that is still future.  Adam and Eve did kill and sacrifice a pig.  This is their sin.
Abel never offered animal sacrifices, knowing God hates this.  He offered his life a living sacrifice and people to worship the true God, whom he had taught the truth to.  All the answers are NOT in Genesis.  You must study other scripture and put it together.

Words of Life

…My answer to the question…what do you believe the Scriptures are?…

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M answer:

Jesus said, MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE.

Wow. LIFE, Peter said, to whom shall we go…THOU hast the WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE.

wow again. words = eternal life.
He sent his word and healed them.

He sent his word and the worlds were made.
He breathed on them and said, receive you the holy Ghost.

My words are not mine, but the Fathers’ who sent me, (Jesus).

So these words are SPIRIT, God is a spirit, the Word was god, 
these words are LIFE, He that lives and believes in me shall NEVER DIE.

So yes, give me all of them as much as I can get. I read it, live it, speak it, think it, it is eternal life to those who receive it.

…My answer to the question…what do you believe the Scriptures are?…

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M answer:

Jesus said, MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE.

Wow. LIFE, Peter said, to whom shall we go…THOU hast the WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE.

wow again. words = eternal life.
He sent his word and healed them.

He sent his word and the worlds were made.
He breathed on them and said, receive you the holy Ghost.

My words are not mine, but the Fathers’ who sent me, (Jesus).

So these words are SPIRIT, God is a spirit, the Word was god, 
these words are LIFE, He that lives and believes in me shall NEVER DIE.

So yes, give me all of them as much as I can get. I read it, live it, speak it, think it, it is eternal life to those who receive it.

Today’s Story
I’ll Do Better Tomorrow, I Promise

Dear God, are You still awake?
Have You got a minute or two?

You’re pretty good at understanding,
And I really need to talk to You.

You see, Mommy came to tuck me in,
Like she does every night.
I was trying to play a trick on her,
Since she can’t see without the light.

I was going to close my eyes
And pretend to be asleep.
But when I heard her crying,
I didn’t dare let out a peep.

She started talking to you, God.
Did You hear the things she said?
Could You hear what she was saying
As she stood beside my bed?

Why would Mommy be so sad?
I wondered just what I had done,
And then I began to remember
it all As she named them one by one…

This morning we worked in the garden,
But, honest, I really didn’t know
That if I picked all those little yellow blooms
The tomatoes wouldn’t grow!

Charlie and I were trying to be helpers,
‘Cause I know that’s what Mommy needs,
But I don’t think she was too happy with us
when we pulled up carrots instead of weeds.

Mommy said we should stop for the day,
she decided we had helped quite enough.
I sure had worked up an appetite…
I didn’t know gardening was so tough!

We had peanut-butter and jelly for lunch
and I shared too much, I guess…
But I didn’t realize until I was done
that Charlie had made such a mess.

Mommy said she needed a nap,
she had one of her headaches today.
She told me to keep an eye on my sister
and find something quiet to play.

Well, God, do You remember all those curls
you gave my little sister Jenny?
We played barber shop…very quietly…
and now, well, she doesn’t have any.

Boy, was Mommy mad at me…
I had to go sit on my bed.
She said never to cut “people hair” again.
I guess I’ll practice on Charlie instead.

We sat and watched poor old Albert,
I just knew he must be so bored
Going round and round
in the same place all day,
Wouldn’t You think so, Lord?

I didn’t think it would hurt
to let him out for a while.
I mean, mice need exercise, too.
By the way, have You seen Albert lately?
He’s been sort of missing since two.

Mommy sent us outside for the rest of the day.
She said we needed fresh air.
But when Daddy came home she told him
he was trying to get something out of her hair.

We thought Mommy needed cheering up,
so we decided to brighten her day.
But, God, did You see the look on her face
When we gave her that pretty bouquet?

We had gotten a little bit dirty,
so Mommy said to get in the tub.
“Use soap this time,” she reminded,
“and please don’t forget to scrub.”

Charlie didn’t like the water too much,
but I lathered up real good.
I knew Mommy would be so proud of me
For cleaning up like I should.

I went downstairs to the table,
but during dinner it started to rain…
I’d forgotten to turn off the water, it seems,
and I hadn’t unplugged the drain!

I decided right then it was just about time
to start getting ready for bed,
When Mommy said, “It’s sure been a long day,”
And her face began turning all red.

I lay there listening to Mommy
as she told You about our day.
I thought about all of the things I had done
and I wondered what I should say.

I was just about to tell her
that I’d been awake all along,
And ask her to please forgive me
for all of those thing I’d done wrong.

When suddenly, I heard her whisper,
“God, forgive me for today…
For not being more understanding
when those problems came my way…

For not handling situations in the way
You wanted me to…for getting angry
and losing my temper,
Things I know You don’t want me to do.

And, God, please give me more patience,
Help me make it through another day,
I’ll do better tomorrow, I promise…
In Jesus’ name I pray.”

Wiping her eyes, she kissed me
and knelt here beside my bed.
She stroked my hair for a little while…
“I love you, precious,” Mommy said.

She left the room without ever knowing
That I’d been awake all the time.
And God, could we make it our little secret?
You know, just Yours and mine?

I’m sorry I was so much trouble today,
I really didn’t mean to be…
Daddy says it’s tough being a kid sometimes,
but I think it’s harder on Mommy than me.

Well, goodnight, God. Thanks for listening.
It’s sure nice to know You’re there.
I feel so much better when I talk to You
’cause You always hear my prayer.

And I’ll do better tomorrow, I promise…
Just You wait and see!
I’ll try not to be so much trouble again,
But, God, please give more patience to Mommy
……Just in case! Amen.
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The Two Sons

Date Posted：08/08/2011 1:31 AM

I am putting down just a few thoughts which God gave me. I am not making it into a message yet. but want to share this with you.

God had two sons, Adam and Jesus. The first he created as a perfect Cherub = a glorified man.

He made this Son to be a covering. Eze 28. this covering was to lead and protect the others and get them into the truth and glory of God.
God instructed this son/covering, not to take the people into LAW, for law is death. Law sets some over others and God did not want this to come into being. He wanted people to be ONE, or in total equality and harmony, as the God kingdom is.

but Adam became lifted up in pride and deceived Eve into going into the law and offering animal sacrifices to Adam in worship.

God then brought up another son, through the New birth, from the dust humans. He filled this son with the power of God, through the Holy Ghost and after Jesus proved himself faithful in all things, he then set Jesus to be the covering for the people. this covenant was Grace.

So we have two sons, which are two coverings, or covenants under which people come to God. God rejects those who try to serve by law, which is not love or faith. This is why law means death to those who serve by law instead of loving God and hating sin.

This is the covering which God said is not sufficient. it will not cover your sins. Animal blood has never removed any sins. God has never accepted this way of life.

Jesus is the covering of Grace and by which we can be cleansed, by his blood, from all sins and become new, clean creatures in Christ Jesus = a new creation. coming into the likeness of God.

So these two sons or two coverings or two covenants are those two trees in the garden. One is death. the other is life.

Choose ye this day whom you will serve; choose life or death; choose grace or law.
You cannot have both.

By Jo Smith…. August 7, 2011

~~~~~ Often Reproved ~~~~~

 

Proverbs 1:5–A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels.

 

v20–Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:

v21–She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,

 

v22–How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

 

v23–Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

v24–Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;

v25–But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:

 

v26–I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh/

v27–When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.

 

v28–Then shall they call upon me, but I will NOT answer; they shall seek me early, but they SHALL NOT FIND ME:

 

v29–For that they HATED KNOWLEDGE, and did not chose the fear of the LORD:

v30 — They would none of my counsel: they DESPISED ALL MY REPROOF.

 

v31–Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.

 

v32–For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.

v33– But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

 

The above Scripture is a mighty pronouncement of God against the ungodly who refuse to answer when He calls them; or repent when they are reproved of Him.

 

It is a very dangerous thing to turn away when God reproves you for sin. God said it is a fool who does not want the knowledge of God. But to those who do turn at His reproof, He will pour out His spirit unto you and make known His words to you.

 

This is why so many people never do understand His words, because they have not turned from their sins when He reproved them. His word said they hate those who stand in the ‘gate’ = God’s way, and rebukes. See, this hatred of those God sent to rebuke or reprove them, is the cause of their own destruction.

 

I saw an old man stumbling trying to get onto the sidewalk a good number of years ago. My heart went out to the man, and I began to pray for him. Believe it or not, God rebuked me for this, and said to me (as plain as anyone ever spoke to me)– “don’t feel sorry for that man or pray for him; you do not know the evil that man has done. This is why he is in this condition.”

 

This was not anyone I knew; had never seen him before; nor since. But see, God knew this man’s wicked life and would not allow him to be prayed for. This is the truth before the Living God.

 

I went into a nursing home once. It was like a ‘hall of horrors’. The people in there were in the most pitiful condition. It was just sickening to see. I felt pity for them. But God said to me, this is the fulfillment of Proverbs one. They have mocked and scorned my words all these years; worshiped idols; taught idol worship to their children (santa claus, easter bunnies, tooth faries, etc.)

 

There were pictures of turkeys, pumpkins and all such all over the halls; it was around that time of year. God said, this is how they taught the children I let them have; so now, it is all they have in life. They are here in this condition because they refused my call; they did not turn at my reproof. So not, I am laughing at their calamity; I am laughing and turned away from them in their destruction. It is too late for these folks who worshiped idols all their lives.

 

People, I am not making this up; God told me this. He showed me this is the fulfillment of Proverbs one.

 

If you wait until your calamity is upon you; or your destruction is upon you, it will be too late then to call upon God; For go back and read v28– He said they would call then but He would not hear them. They will seek him then, but will not find him.

 

IF a nation or an individual waits until God brings His wrath upon them, it is too late to turn, repent, and call upon Him. You had better listen to God now; repent today; quit mocking and scorning the truth of God’s Word when it is presented to you.

 

You who hate the Holy Ghost’s working, you had better repent today if you still can. You had better humble your proud self at His feet and let him speak in tongues through you; let Him roll you on the floor if He decides to do so. Your pride will send your soul into hell, after it takes your body into suffering here.

 

If our nation waits until God’s wrath hits again to repent, it may be too late. If he turns His back on you, He may stop a child of God from praying for you. He told some of the prophets to quit praying for certain people. He told Samuel to quit praying for Saul. He told Jeremiah not to pray for those people in His day.

Don’t tell me God will not do this. It is written in the Word.

 

I hope this will help some you quit your scoffing at the true things of God just because your flesh and your little old fake preachers and churches speak against the true moving of God’s Spirit.

 

Be not deceived, God is not mocked; whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Your reaping day is just ahead; both you individuals and America.

 

God has placed this message on my heart for several weeks and told me to do it now. I hope and pray many of you will heed the warning. Don’t end up in a nursing home, unable to care for yourself because you refused God’s counsel.

 

Now, I want to make this clear; I am NOT saying that EVERYONE in these conditions, that this is the reason. I do not know that matter. I do know most of it is because of this.

 

 

 

Raise Children For God

From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551 (Original Message) Sent: 12/19/2007 4:35 PM
From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 8/3/2001 12:01 PM
Proverbs 22:6—Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
Proverbs 13:24—He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

v21—-Evil pursueth sinners: but to the righteous good shall be repaid.

The Word of God has a lot to say on the subject of raising children. God is concerned that children be taught about him, from babyhood on. For this is the way to keep their life from going into evil which will bring much hurt into their lives.

He said if one loves their children, they will chasten them betimes (early). This means that if you correct children while they are very young and as soon as they do things wrong, it will bring them to righteousness. You should take the time to teach them right ways. The younger a child is taught righteousness, the better chance they have of knowing God and serving him to the good of their lives.

Knowing God as a child is the greatest thing in life. Satan has deceived parents into thinking they should just let children do as they please and not teach them God’s ways while they are young. But this is a tragic mistake.

While a child is young, they are forming their nature and their way of thinking. Everything that is fed into their minds will effect them the rest of their lives. So, is it sensible to let Satan and all his armies feed your babies from birth on? Is it right to let evil be constantly be put into your children’s heart?

God said children are his heritage. He will come against a nation which continually robs him of their children by just letting them go and learn evil and selfishness. Teach your babies to pray; read the Word of God to them (not stories about the Word— read the Word itself to them). Don’t be deceived into thinking they are too young to hear and learn the Word. If they can learn abc’s, they can learn the Word of God.

Children are much more open to love God than grown people are. I believe almost all children would love God, if they are taught about him as small children.

When the disciples rebuked people for bringing their small children to Jesus for him to bless them, Jesus rebuked them and said Forbid not children to come unto me, for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Ephesians 6:1,2—Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise; that it may be will with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

v4—and, ye fathers, PROVOKE NOT YOUR CHILDREN TO WRATH: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.

I was taught these verses diligently in my childhood church. It helped me all through life, both as a child (to obey my parents; and as a parent, to know to teach my children the ways of God).

You that still have young children or grandchildren, get back to teaching those children of God. Don’t cheat them of the glory of knowing God in childhood. That is the very best time for people to know God. Young hearts receive the wonderful presence of God so wonderfully.

A few years ago, my younger daughter and I along with some others, were having a home prayer meeting. Her young son (only about 3) was there. He had never been to church; he had never seen anyone in the Spirit; so he had no idea of dancing in the spirit or of speaking in tongues. He had never been around that. He could not have copied it.

I was going to lay hands on my daughter and pray for her. My grandson came over and stepped under my hand for prayer. I laid my hand on his head and prayed for him. He began to dance in the most beautiful dance and speaking in tongues I have ever witnessed. She went to stop him, for she thought he was just putting on: but I stopped her; I told her this is the most ‘real’ I have ever seen. It was a blessed sight; something I long to see again.

Today, that young grandson (he is 9 now)– receives deep revelation from the Word of God. He is wise far beyond his age.

My little girl, which was run over and killed at eight years of age, had the most faith of anyone I have ever known. I taught her of God from birth on. I taught her to read out of the Scriptures. She loved reading the Word. She would sit in the yard with the family Bible in her lap (she could barely hold it) and read for hours. She begged me all the time to read to her. I read her the Book of Job; she loved it so much she begged to hear it again. When she was sick (which she seldom was) she refused to take any kind of medication; she would say Jesus will make me well; and He did. She would be well long before others with the same thing were.

I had taught her to pray. She had been baptized; by her own choice, at the age of 7. So when her untimely death occurred, I had peace about her eternal destination.

People, please help everyone get back to teaching children of God. If you are in a church that sends children out to play while services are going on, you should talk to the pastor and show him this is wrong, or find a church that teaches the children also.

Think of this: most homes do not teach children of God; they just let them watch Satan’s pulpit (the t.v.) or play around on computers; they do not take the time to read them the word and pray with them; the schools do not teach them of God anymore; now, when they go to church, they get sent into another room to play or outside to play ball or something. WHAT IS WRONG???? Why the move to keep children from God?? Parents and grandparents, and teachers, WAKE UP!!! Your children are being driven to Satan from birth on. Look at the results!!! Children killing others; children robbing, raping, devil worshipping, etc. Is this what you desire for our children. May God help everyone to here this cry:

GET BACK TO RAISING CHILDREN FOR GOD!!!!!

Jo

Glorified Bodies

Freeborn,I was thinking about that verse about the 144,000. And the robes of white, is not a piece of clothing. I hope you can understand this.


It is the glorification of their bodies. That is when we will be in the original state of Adam & Eve. That is when we will truly be in the image of GOD.


Guess what? Jesus showed Peter, James, and his brother John this on the mountain. Please read (Matthew 17).


I just wonder why it happened after 6 days. Do you see that all this happened on the 7th day? Jesus had the same appearance as Moses did when he was on Mt. Sinai. And we all know that is how MOSES was able to see GOD face to face. Because in our state right now we can not see GOD face to face. You know what I am talking about here. I am trying to put it in writing for the people that come here and read. So, they can try and understand.


Look up the word Raiment And you will see the times that Jesus changed just like Moses. I do not know if any other OT prophets did this or not. I have yet to study that out. It is just strange for Jesus to be able to do it before the resurrection. That is strange. We only thought he was in a glorified body only after the Resurrection.

Revelation 3:5 (KJV)
5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 




Revelation 3:17-18 (KJV)
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 

18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 

Love 
Tweety

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What To Eat Or Drink

John 6:53 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

 John 4: 10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
32 But he said unto them, I have meat to eat that ye know not of.
34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

 John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

 John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)

Drink my BLOOD… drink this water; never thirst again…the Spirit or Holy Ghost…is this water, or his BLOOD. Can you see the connection?

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.


Something About Law

talked to Larry today.  I had asked him a question, (on facebook pm)  He would not answer it.  He told me today that he thought I was crazy for thinking the thing.
Larry has NEVER said that to me before.  But after we discussed it, and the anointing took over and explained it to us, he agrees.

been reading all of Paul’s books and finished them all.  Now finished Hebrews and James.  into Peter.

I wondered why Paul gave the instructions to those ‘churches’ that he gave; seeming to cross the true teachings of the true Grace church.
I asked God about it.  came to me…Paul was setting up those 7 gentile churches in Revelation;  and the rules for them are different from the ONE TRUE CHURCH.  in this grace church, we are all ONE.

At first Larry did not think so.  But then God showed it to us….like as Moses, in Grace,  gave them the LAW, to bring them under condemnation.
Paul, being in the truth Church, but being the apostle to the Gentiles, had to set up those 7 mixed churches.  Satan, in the seat of them.

But he had both messages.  He had to instruct those churches, which had gone back to LAW, TO DO AS THE LAW REQUIRES.
But to the Grace church, we do not have the same  ‘LAWS’.

DO YOU SEE THIS?

Proof That Satan Is Adam

this one seemed to still have the aragrahs. so, I am going to do it here, to see if it goes to the board that way.

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~ Proof that Satan is Adam ~

Today is Tuesday, Jan. 9, 2007.  This will be my first message in 2007.  It will be only a small account of this matter.  Let’s look at some Scripture which identifies this dragon, which is the beast, which is mankind.  I have already proven this message so many different ways and from many Scriptures, yet people still deny this truth.  So here is yet another solid proof in Scripture, that Satan is Adam, the Serpent.

Re 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon , having seven heads and ten horns , and seven crowns upon his heads.

Notice the description here of the dragon.  He is red .  Strongs:   (Adam) —  rom 0119 ; TWOT – 25a; n m AV – man 408, men 121, Adam 13, person(s) 8, common sort + 07230 1, hypocrite 1; 552   1) man, mankind 1a) man, human being

0119 // Mda // ‘adam // aw-dam’ // 0119 // Mda // ‘adam // aw-dam’ // of unknown derivation; TWOT – 26b; v AV – dyed red 5, red 4 ruddy 1; 10 1) to be red, red                                       1c1) to cause to show red 1c2) to glare 1c3) to emit (show) redness    1a) (Qal) ruddy (of Nazarites) 1b) (Pual) 1b1) to be rubbed red 1b2) dyed red 1b3) reddened    1c) (Hiphil) 1d) (Hithpael) 1d1) to redden 1d2) to grow red 1d3) to look red

Now the above is Strongs meaning of Adam.  Here is his meaning for dragon:  1404 // drakwn // drakon // drak’-own // probably from an alternate form of derkomai (to look); TDNT – 2:281,186; n m AV – dragon 13; 13 1) a dragon, a great serpent, a name for Satan

Why RED? The Word declares that our sins are red, scarlet, crimson, which are shades of red.  Red shows sin.  So this dragon was or is full of sin.

Re 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, Re 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. Re 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent , called the Devil , and Satan , which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Now after this old serpent, called the Devil and Satan, was cast out of heaven, (in the Spirit), he was cast out (0f the garden of Eden)  into the earth.

So after he  is cast into the earth, what shows up on earth?  Re 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns , and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. Re 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.  (HE is called a beast now, for he has been reduced to human mortal flesh.)

Here a ‘beast’ comes up out of the sea upon the sand of the sea.  What is the description of this ‘beast’?  It is identical to the dragon in heaven.  Notice that it is also described exactly as having all the characteristics of the beast described in Daniel.  This beast is the kingdoms of man on earth.  It has the seven heads and the ten horns.  This kingdom is full of the name of blasphemy.  This is that dragon after he was cast out of heaven and came up on earth.  It is the very same being or kingdom.  This change from heaven to earth took place when God clothed the ‘heavens’,  Adam and Eve, the Spiritual people,  with darkness, or this mortal flesh.  It is where God clothed them with skin, which is our mortal flesh.

So after they became mortal beings, they were no longer in the Spirit, or heaven.  They are now in flesh, or on earth.  So Adam, Satan, again sets up his kingdom.  This time it is on earth, but it is the very same kind of kingdom, full of sin.

Look at this verse one more time:  Re 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Now this verse clearly shows that the dragon is that old serpent,  and he is called the Devil and Satan.  Now I can not see how anyone can keep denying this much proof that the old serpent which deceived Eve is also this same dragon, Satan.  They are one and the same person.  If you deny this, you must call the Word of God a lie.  So why bother to claim that you read it,  believe it, or teach it?

Here is the verifying Scripture that this dragon is also the old serpent, which is Satan:  Re 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

Now you must simply totally disregard Scripture to keep saying that Satan USED the serpent to deceive Eve.  No Scripture says this.  I have proven here by several perfectly quoted verses that the old serpent is actually that dragon, Satan, the Devil.  So everyone who claims that the dragon is different from the serpent or Satan or the Devil, is showing that they do not know the Word of God and that they do not believe the Word of God and they most certainly are not teaching the Word of God.  They are teaching some man’s made-up junk.

By: Jo Smith

wow, it did.

 

Satan Worship

Today, May 15, 2014, Today,  God showed me something.  All religions which have murdered in the name of their religion;  all religions or persons, who hate women, bad mouth them, hold them down, men who beat them, rape them, ministers or others, who say, women cannot teach, preach, or do other things, in service to God, are ALL IN SATAN WORSHIP.

All religions or religious persons, who murder in the name of their religion or god, are doing HUMAN SACRIFICE TO THAT EVIL GOD.

It matters not what they call their religion = catholic, islam, Judaism, or any others, all who murder or torture others, in the name of their religion or god, is into SATAN WORSHIP.

The true God and Jesus Christ NEVER DESIRE MURDER OR VIOLENCE.   it is satan who leads to violence and murder.

Satan has deceived this whole world.  So, anyone who speaks against WOMEN, or misuse women, or hold women down, are DEVIL WORSHIPERS.

It all began with Adam, who is Satan.   Satan is that old serpent.  Adam means a mean, low, wicked man or hypocrite.
Eve means  RESTORER TO LIFE.

Eve is the only person God called a HELP MEET. She is the MOTHER OF ALL LIVING.  Living means those who are born of God;  not those born of the flesh.

Until one is born of God, they are DEAD IN TRESPASSES AND  SINS.

So, Adam, or that old serpent, (one and the same), started all those lies against Eve.  Adam hated Eve.  Adam tortured her and many other evils against her.   I can prove all of this with pure Scripture.

Those who speak lies against Eve, have not one verse of Scripture to prove it with.  All they have is lies of Adam.

So all who speak against Eve, or women, are SATAN WORSHIPERS.

Satan had deceived this while world…. so almost ALL religions speak against women,  say they cannot preach or teach the word of God, or be apostles, or any such.   Now if this is true, then satan has NOT DECEIVED THIS WHOLE WORLD, for they all believe this LIE.

So if satan has deceived this while world, and they all believe lies against women, hold  them back, spiritually, then that has to be LIES.

If your ‘prophet’, preacher, or pastor, or priest or whatever, church, etc, says women cannot preach, and hold to the lies of josephus, against Eve, THEY ARE DEVIL WORSHIPERS AND YOU WHO BELIEVE THOSE LIES ARE ALSO DEVIL WORSHIPERS.

IN CHRIST JESUS, WE ARE ALL ONE;  NOT MALE NOR FEMALE.

So who do you know that  is in Christ?  Very few.

By:  Jo Smith

The Two Witnesses

 


~ The Two Witnesses~

 

Rev. 11: 1-14—-These verses tell about these two witnesses.

v3—And I will give POWER unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

v4—These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

 

v5—And if any man will hurt them, FIRE proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

v6—These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

 

Psm.149:5-9—-Let the SAINTS be joyful in glory; LET THEM SING ALOUD UPON THEIR BEDS.

 

v6–Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two edged sword in their hand;

v7—TO EXECUTE VENGEANCE UPON THE HEATHEN, AND PUNISHMENTS UPON THE PEOPLE;

v8—To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

v9—To EXECUTE upon them the JUDGMENT written: this honour have ALL HIS SAINTS. Praise ye the LORD.

 

Now, look carefully at the comparison of these two passages of Scripture. Remember, Scripture interprets Scripture.

It said the witnesses kill their enemies with the ‘fire’ coming out of their mouth. It said they smite the earth with plagues, as often as they will.

 

These SAINTS in Psm. 149 execute vengeance and punishments upon people, bind their kings with chains (remember Satan is a whole kingdom; he is bound in ‘chains’ and cast into the bottomless pit) for the 1,000 years reign of the saints. They execute judgment upon them.

So, it should be fairly easy to see that this is the same people being talked about here.

Now, look back at Rev.11:4—-this identifies these witnesses as two olive trees. What are ‘olive trees’?

 

Romans 11:13-26—

v24–For if thou wert cut out of the ‘olive tree’ which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good ‘olive tree’: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? So all Israel shall be saved…

So, here we have identified both Gentiles and Jews as being an olive tree. But Jesus brought them both into one good olive tree. So this good olive tree has to be the same olive tree in Rev. 11.

 

Now, he also said they were two candle sticks. So, what is a candle stick?

Rev.1:20—-The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the Angels of the seven churches: and the seven CANDLESTICKS which thou sawest are the seven churches.

 

So, we see the Scripture meaning of a candlestick: it is a church. Therefore, the olive tree is the new church; likewise the candlestick is the new church. So, two identifications meet the requirement of God to prove every thing in the mouth of two or three witnesses.

But, you ask, how is the church a prophet? They have all the prophecies of God.

 

Rev.19:10—….for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. So, see, if we have the testimony of Jesus that is the spirit of prophecy. So here, we have a third identification of the church as being the witnesses, for we have the testimony of Jesus which is the spirit of prophecy; therefore making us a prophet. Same thing.

 

But, it says two witnesses. So what about the seven churches? They are NOT these two witnesses. They are a mixture of God’s and of Satan’s people. The tares and the wheat grow together until the end of the world.

 

These two powerful churches it is talking being these two witnesses could not be these seven churches that were all messed up.

So where are two other churches identified in the Word.

Joel 2:28-31—-And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions::::

 

(do you see that colon? it means another complete clause is coming up…. another complete thought)

 

v29—AND ALSO (this means in addition to the preceding) … also upon the SERVANTS and upon the HANDMAIDS in those days will I pour out my spirit. And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and FIRE and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

 

When John the Baptist prophesied of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and Fire he named them together, because he was prophesying of a subject, not a time matter. He meant at some time in the future these two things will happen. When Joel prophesied of these two baptisms, he likewise put them together, or so it seemed, for it was something yet to happen in the future. But that colon separates these two separate events.

Acts 1:5—For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the HOLY GHOST not many days hence.

 

Now why did he not say and FIRE? For they did not receive the Fire Baptism. It is two different outpourings from God; two different spirits; for two different purposes, at two different times in time; for two different groups of people; two different churches. They were divided in time by at least 2,000 years.

 

Was the church born at Pentecost told to hurt anyone who hurt them? No!! They were told exactly the opposite. They were told not to return railing for railing; to turn the other cheek, etc. Why??? The Spirit of the Holy Ghost that they were empowered with was the spirit of love, grace, salvation etc.

 

Were they God’s witnesses??? You bet they were. They were the first witness. They witnessed God’s power to heal, raise the dead, save the lost, meet one’s every need, etc.

 

PROOF:

Acts 2:32—This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof WE ALL ARE WITNESSES. (but, now remember, they all are one).

Acts 3:15—And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof WE ARE WITNESSES.

 

Acts 5:32—And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. (see, they and the Holy Ghost are one witness).

Acts 10:41—Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

 

This group of witnesses witnessed of his resurrection; they were there.

Acts 13:31—And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem who are his witnesses unto the people.

So, there you have the first witness; anointed with power from on high with the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, to witness his love power, the resurrection, his healing power, his saving power, etc.

 

After that witness was gone, then came up the seven churches in Revelation, a mixture. Because the anti-Christ had come in and polluted that church after the apostles were dead. This powerful witness, with the power of God in their lives, had held back that evil power. For he could not come in as long as that powerful, anointed church was here. But, when it was gone, then the beast , whore church with the man of sin as its head came in. They changed the truth, cast the truth to the ground, took the people into darkness. And it has been there ever since.

 

Just think for a minute: why do the churches today say none of that power is for us today??? Why do they say that??? Because they do not have it. They are not his witnesses. They are in the darkness of the beast, the whore church. Anyone who denies this power of God, could not possibly be one of his witnesses. It is self evidenced.

Zech. 4 gives the vision of these two anointed ones. Read this whole chapter. Compare it with Rev.11. You will see the two witnesses clearly defined, these two anointed ones, these two churches, along with the other seven.

 

v11—Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two OLIVE TREES upon the RIGHT side of the CANDLESTICK and upon the LEFT side thereof?

Now, he is placing the two anointed churches in time; one on the left side of the seven; the other on the right side of the seven. So, what does this tell us? That one came in before the seven and one AFTER the seven.

We have already shown the first one; the church of Peter and the others of his day. That one came before the seven, therefore it was the one on the left side of the candlestick with the seven lamps upon it.

 

So, that leaves the one which is to come after the seven; the one on the right side of the seven.

See, that he called them olive trees. The New Testament Church.

Zech:4:14—Then said he, These are the TWO ANOINTED ONES, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

 

Rev.11:4–These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks STANDING BEFORE THE GOD OF THE EARTH.

Need it be any plainer?????????

But, you see, a power of God was not witnessed by that first witness. For indeed, they could not bring it. It was not time. So there has to be a witness of God’s Wrath; of his judgment; of his rule with a rod of iron.

 

People wonder why it seems to revert back to law in the millinium ? This is because it will be law. Only not the OT. law. It will be forced worship by the witnesses. Read Zech 14. And there are many others showing this.

 

Remember the Scripture at the beginning of this message in Psm. 149? That is talking about this second witness. Go back and read that chapter.

Go back to Joel 2:29-31—- Notice that the first pouring out of the spirit was to ALL FLESH. Any and every one could receive that Baptism. It was the one that came at Pentecost. It was for salvation.

 

But, look at v29—This outpouring is only for the SERVANTS and the HANDMAIDS. In other words those ALREADY serving God with the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

Check what the signs of the first one was: dreams, visions and prophesy.

 

Look what the signs of this second one is: wonders in the heavens (see Rev.12) and in the earth: blood, and FIRE, and pillars of smoke. Sun and Moon darkened.

Remember the FIRE coming out of the mouth of these witnesses? This is where it came from: the Baptism of FIRE. See, that did not come on the day of Pentecost. It is not the tongues of fire which was upon them. This is the spirit of FIRE = wrath, judgment, vengeance etc.

Rev. is dealing with this second witness: Acts with the first one.

 

They are two groups of people (churches) anointed with power from on high to do their work for God. They are said to be one. Peter’s church was one— this second one is the other one.

 

So looking at Joel 2:30-31—we see that their job is to bring blood, fire, pillars of smoke, turn the sun and moon into darkness. So we must find what group does this.

Remember, they must be anointed with power from on high. This takes place in Rev. 7:

V3–Hurt not the earth neither the sea, nor the trees, TILL we have sealed the SERVANTS of our God in their foreheads.

 

Remember, that the Holy Ghost was a seal. So, also is this baptism. Notice, it said seal the SERVANTS OF GOD. Isn’t that who Joel said would receive this baptism? See how it fits every Scripture and proves itself, without guess work???

Notice, also that this is immediately before hurting everything. In other words, wrath, judgment, vengeance.

 

Why a seal in the forehead? For that is where the beast worshipers have their mark. It is in the mind. You are either sealed by God, or you are marked by the beast. It is always there. You are either for him or against him. You are either gathering or scattering. You are a member of Christ’ kingdom or else the beast kingdom. One or the other. Everyone.

Notice also, that those sealed are Jews. We, the true spiritual Jews are the ones who receive this seal.

 

The fifth and sixth trumpets are the work of this witness. Rev.9:2—You have here the smoke, the sun and air darkened by this smoke ( one of the signs of the baptism of fire).They torment the men who have the mark of the beast. See Rev.11:10–they had tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

 

Rev. 9:7–Identifies this group as horses prepared unto battle—compare this to Joel 2–you will see the army of God as horses going to battle. The crowns like gold show the mind of Christ they were sealed with. They had faces as men and hair as women, proving that both the servants and handmaids of God are in this ministry of judgment. Of pouring out the wrath of the Lamb. Of casting Satan into the bottomless pit. Of taking over the kingdoms of this world and ruling them with the rod of iron. That is the powerful second witness. No one will have any power over them: until they finish their testimony. At the end of the 1,000 year reign, they will be over come and killed.

 

Then the final resurrection and the changing of the living saints will occur. Rev.9:17—And thus I saw the HORSES in the vision, and them that sat on them, (Son of Man) having breastplates of FIRE, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions: (one of the faces on the living creature) and out of their MOUTH issued FIRE AND SMOKE AND BRIMSTONE.

 

FIRE coming out the mouths of the witnesses. By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS.

There is the signs of the second baptism: fire, smoke and blood as they kill their enemies.

So, there is the Word of God telling who his two witnesses are.

 

Glory to our great God for he did not leave us to the minds of carnal men to tell us these things. Thank you Lord Jesus for this great revelation.

 

By: Jo Smith

 

 

 

 

~ The Two Witnesses~

Rev. 11: 1-14—-These verses tell about these two witnesses.

v3—And I will give POWER unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

v4—These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

v5—And if any man will hurt them, FIRE proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

v6—These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Psm.149:5-9—-Let the SAINTS be joyful in glory; LET THEM SING ALOUD UPON THEIR BEDS.

v6–Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two edged sword in their hand;

v7—TO EXECUTE VENGEANCE UPON THE HEATHEN, AND PUNISHMENTS UPON THE PEOPLE;

v8—To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

v9—To EXECUTE upon them the JUDGMENT written: this honour have ALL HIS SAINTS. Praise ye the LORD.

Now, look carefully at the comparison of these two passages of Scripture. Remember, Scripture interprets Scripture.

It said the witnesses kill their enemies with the ‘fire’ coming out of their mouth. It said they smite the earth with plagues, as often as they will.

These SAINTS in Psm. 149 execute vengeance and punishments upon people, bind their kings with chains (remember Satan is a whole kingdom; he is bound in ‘chains’ and cast into the bottomless pit) for the 1,000 years reign of the saints. They execute judgment upon them.

So, it should be fairly easy to see that this is the same people being talked about here.

Now, look back at Rev.11:4—-this identifies these witnesses as two olive trees. What are ‘olive trees’?

Romans 11:13-26—

v24–For if thou wert cut out of the ‘olive tree’ which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good ‘olive tree’: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree? So all Israel shall be saved…

So, here we have identified both Gentiles and Jews as being an olive tree. But Jesus brought them both into one good olive tree. So this good olive tree has to be the same olive tree in Rev. 11.

Now, he also said they were two candle sticks. So, what is a candle stick?

Rev.1:20—-The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the Angels of the seven churches: and the seven CANDLESTICKS which thou sawest are the seven churches.

So, we see the Scripture meaning of a candlestick: it is a church. Therefore, the olive tree is the new church; likewise the candlestick is the new church. So, two identifications meet the requirement of God to prove every thing in the mouth of two or three witnesses.

But, you ask, how is the church a prophet? They have all the prophecies of God.

Rev.19:10—….for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. So, see, if we have the testimony of Jesus that is the spirit of prophecy. So here, we have a third identification of the church as being the witnesses, for we have the testimony of Jesus which is the spirit of prophecy; therefore making us a prophet. Same thing.

But, it says two witnesses. So what about the seven churches? They are NOT these two witnesses. They are a mixture of God’s and of Satan’s people. The tares and the wheat grow together until the end of the world.

These two powerful churches it is talking being these two witnesses could not be these seven churches that were all messed up.

So where are two other churches identified in the Word.

Joel 2:28-31—-And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions::::

(do you see that colon? it means another complete clause is coming up…. another complete thought)

v29—AND ALSO (this means in addition to the preceding) … also upon the SERVANTS and upon the HANDMAIDS in those days will I pour out my spirit. And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and FIRE and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

When John the Baptist prophesied of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and Fire he named them together, because he was prophesying of a subject, not a time matter. He meant at some time in the future these two things will happen. When Joel prophesied of these two baptisms, he likewise put them together, or so it seemed, for it was something yet to happen in the future. But that colon separates these two separate events.

Acts 1:5—For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the HOLY GHOST not many days hence.

Now why did he not say and FIRE? For they did not receive the Fire Baptism. It is two different outpourings from God; two different spirits; for two different purposes, at two different times in time; for two different groups of people; two different churches. They were divided in time by at least 2,000 years.

Was the church born at Pentecost told to hurt anyone who hurt them? No!! They were told exactly the opposite. They were told not to return railing for railing; to turn the other cheek, etc. Why??? The Spirit of the Holy Ghost that they were empowered with was the spirit of love, grace, salvation etc.

Were they God’s witnesses??? You bet they were. They were the first witness. They witnessed God’s power to heal, raise the dead, save the lost, meet one’s every need, etc.

PROOF:

Acts 2:32—This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof WE ALL ARE WITNESSES. (but, now remember, they all are one).

Acts 3:15—And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof WE ARE WITNESSES.

Acts 5:32—And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. (see, they and the Holy Ghost are one witness).

Acts 10:41—Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

This group of witnesses witnessed of his resurrection; they were there.

Acts 13:31—And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem who are his witnesses unto the people.

So, there you have the first witness; anointed with power from on high with the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, to witness his love power, the resurrection, his healing power, his saving power, etc.

After that witness was gone, then came up the seven churches in Revelation, a mixture. Because the anti-Christ had come in and polluted that church after the apostles were dead. This powerful witness, with the power of God in their lives, had held back that evil power. For he could not come in as long as that powerful, anointed church was here. But, when it was gone, then the beast , whore church with the man of sin as its head came in. They changed the truth, cast the truth to the ground, took the people into darkness. And it has been there ever since.

Just think for a minute: why do the churches today say none of that power is for us today??? Why do they say that??? Because they do not have it. They are not his witnesses. They are in the darkness of the beast, the whore church. Anyone who denies this power of God, could not possibly be one of his witnesses. It is self evidenced.

Zech. 4 gives the vision of these two anointed ones. Read this whole chapter. Compare it with Rev.11. You will see the two witnesses clearly defined, these two anointed ones, these two churches, along with the other seven.

v11—Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two OLIVE TREES upon the RIGHT side of the CANDLESTICK and upon the LEFT side thereof?

Now, he is placing the two anointed churches in time; one on the left side of the seven; the other on the right side of the seven. So, what does this tell us? That one came in before the seven and one AFTER the seven.

We have already shown the first one; the church of Peter and the others of his day. That one came before the seven, therefore it was the one on the left side of the candlestick with the seven lamps upon it.

So, that leaves the one which is to come after the seven; the one on the right side of the seven.

See, that he called them olive trees. The New Testament Church.

Zech:4:14—Then said he, These are the TWO ANOINTED ONES, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

Rev.11:4–These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks STANDING BEFORE THE GOD OF THE EARTH.

Need it be any plainer?????????

But, you see, a power of God was not witnessed by that first witness. For indeed, they could not bring it. It was not time. So there has to be a witness of God’s Wrath; of his judgment; of his rule with a rod of iron.

People wonder why it seems to revert back to law in the millinium ? This is because it will be law. Only not the OT. law. It will be forced worship by the witnesses. Read Zech 14. And there are many others showing this.

Remember the Scripture at the beginning of this message in Psm. 149? That is talking about this second witness. Go back and read that chapter.

Go back to Joel 2:29-31—- Notice that the first pouring out of the spirit was to ALL FLESH. Any and every one could receive that Baptism. It was the one that came at Pentecost. It was for salvation.

But, look at v29—This outpouring is only for the SERVANTS and the HANDMAIDS. In other words those ALREADY serving God with the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

Check what the signs of the first one was: dreams, visions and prophesy.

Look what the signs of this second one is: wonders in the heavens (see Rev.12) and in the earth: blood, and FIRE, and pillars of smoke. Sun and Moon darkened.

Remember the FIRE coming out of the mouth of these witnesses? This is where it came from: the Baptism of FIRE. See, that did not come on the day of Pentecost. It is not the tongues of fire which was upon them. This is the spirit of FIRE = wrath, judgment, vengeance etc.

Rev. is dealing with this second witness: Acts with the first one.

They are two groups of people (churches) anointed with power from on high to do their work for God. They are said to be one. Peter’s church was one— this second one is the other one.

So looking at Joel 2:30-31—we see that their job is to bring blood, fire, pillars of smoke, turn the sun and moon into darkness. So we must find what group does this.

Remember, they must be anointed with power from on high. This takes place in Rev. 7:

V3–Hurt not the earth neither the sea, nor the trees, TILL we have sealed the SERVANTS of our God in their foreheads.

Remember, that the Holy Ghost was a seal. So, also is this baptism. Notice, it said seal the SERVANTS OF GOD. Isn’t that who Joel said would receive this baptism? See how it fits every Scripture and proves itself, without guess work???

Notice, also that this is immediately before hurting everything. In other words, wrath, judgment, vengeance.

Why a seal in the forehead? For that is where the beast worshipers have their mark. It is in the mind. You are either sealed by God, or you are marked by the beast. It is always there. You are either for him or against him. You are either gathering or scattering. You are a member of Christ’ kingdom or else the beast kingdom. One or the other. Everyone.

Notice also, that those sealed are Jews. We, the true spiritual Jews are the ones who receive this seal.

The fifth and sixth trumpets are the work of this witness. Rev.9:2—You have here the smoke, the sun and air darkened by this smoke ( one of the signs of the baptism of fire).They torment the men who have the mark of the beast. See Rev.11:10–they had tormented them that dwelt on the earth.

Rev. 9:7–Identifies this group as horses prepared unto battle—compare this to Joel 2–you will see the army of God as horses going to battle. The crowns like gold show the mind of Christ they were sealed with. They had faces as men and hair as women, proving that both the servants and handmaids of God are in this ministry of judgment. Of pouring out the wrath of the Lamb. Of casting Satan into the bottomless pit. Of taking over the kingdoms of this world and ruling them with the rod of iron. That is the powerful second witness. No one will have any power over them: until they finish their testimony. At the end of the 1,000 year reign, they will be over come and killed.

Then the final resurrection and the changing of the living saints will occur. Rev.9:17—And thus I saw the HORSES in the vision, and them that sat on them, (Son of Man) having breastplates of FIRE, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions: (one of the faces on the living creature) and out of their MOUTH issued FIRE AND SMOKE AND BRIMSTONE.

FIRE coming out the mouths of the witnesses. By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS.

There is the signs of the second baptism: fire, smoke and blood as they kill their enemies.

So, there is the Word of God telling who his two witnesses are.

Glory to our great God for he did not leave us to the minds of carnal men to tell us these things. Thank you Lord Jesus for this great revelation.

By: Jo Smith

Cain And Abel Sacrifice by Larry

From: MSN NicknameAxs2-381 Sent: 10/22/2007 8:07 PM
Gen.004:001– And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

004:002– And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

004:003– And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.

OK to see what the fruits of the ground was that Cain brought unto the Lord as an offering, let’s go to Genesis 3:17-18

003:017– And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

003:018 –Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

So we see from this that the offering that Cain brought to the Lord was already cursed. That is what the Old Testament law was, it was a curse to God. The people that are trying to live and go by the Old Testament covenant, you are offering God thorns and thistles.

Cain was of the first man Adam, because in Genesis 4:1 we can say that he was the firstborn.

1 Cor.-15:45-47– “And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.”

015:046– “Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.”

015:047– “The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.” ( That is the way that it had been all down through the Scripture. As in the case of Esau and Jacob. Cain and Able. Esau and Cain, also was showing the earthly, or natural, the first man Adam. Able and Jacob were symbolizing the spiritual on the second man Jesus.)

OK, now that we have seen this let me show you something here. We know from Scripture that the first man Adam was not spiritual by that which is natural.

1 Cor-15:46 – Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

1 Cor-2:14– But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Rom. 8:7— Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

So after saying all of this we can see the reason that God did not accept Cain’s offering. He was trying to enter in by the briers and thorns, that Old Testament covenant. He was trying to enter in by the blood of Bulls, sheep, goats, tithing, Sabbath keeping, priest, prophets and all these other things that you had to do according to the Old Testament covenant.

What happened to Cain he became entangled in these briers and thorns and they choked him to death.

Mat. 13:22– He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.( See the word thorns here represent that Old Testament covenant. Also while I am here let me show you something else.)

Mat.13:19 — When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. ( Who was the wicked one that he was talking about here? Well let me try to show you.)

1John 3:12— Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.

(So what I see from here is that is that the first man Adam was the wicked one which was the carnal mind that was in man. So can’t you see what we just read, that the carnal mind is enmity against God.

Math.13:20-21 — But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; (These stony places are the same thing as the briers and thorns. We know from Scripture that the ten Commandments were written on stone.)

Mat.-13:21— Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

So we see that these briers and thorns( Old Testament covenant) will try to choke out the true word of God.

It is just like a man that has got stuck in quicksand ( miry clay) the more he tried to free himself the deeper he sunk. So if you’re trying to build your house on sand or miry clay it is going to sink deeper and deeper. You’re building it on briers and thorns.)

Ps.40:2– He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings. ( The miry clay here represents the Old Testament covenant because it was earthly.)

OK, now that we have seen that these briers and thorns were things of the Old Testament covenant. Let me try to show you something here again with Cain.

In Genesis 4:7- If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. ( In other words he gave Cain the chance to repent and bring the same offering to him as did Able, and we will see what that offering was.)

Act 3:19 — Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. ( We can see from this if Cain had repented God would have forgiven him and blotted out his sins.)

OK, to see the offering that Abel brought to God let us go back to chapter 4 of Genesis versus 4.

Genesis 4: 4.= And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering: ( OK, let me show you some of these meanings of these words.

First let’s start with the word firstling- Strong’s Number: 1062 -feminine of 1060; the firstling of man or beast; abstractly primogeniture: -birthright, firstborn(-ling).

Strong’s Number: 1060- from 1069; firstborn; hence, chief: -eldest (son), firstborn(-ling).
Strong’s Number: 1069 – a primitive root; properly, to burst the womb, i.e. (causatively) bear or make early fruit (of woman or tree); also (as denominative from 1061) to give the birthright: -make firstborn, be firstling, bring forth first child (new fruit). ( Very interesting and we can see from this that Abel inherited the birth right that rightfully belong to Cain. There is more here that meets the eye that I do not want to get into at this time.)

And of the fat thereof. ( The word fat does not mean what a lots of you think.)

Strong’s Number: 2459 – from an unused root meaning to be fat; fat, whether literally or figuratively; hence, the richest or choice part: -X best, fat(-ness), X finest, grease, marrow.

John 2- 10. And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now. (So what I am saying from this is that Able gave the New Testament way. First of all you give all of yourself to God and you give him the best. See he save the last for the best, he said that which is worse was that which was first those briers and thorns that we have been referring to.

You see that Abel gave the New Testament way-

Romans 12:1- “ I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.” ( That is what Abel did be presented his body a living sacrifice and that is the only sacrifice that God will accept in the New Testament. We know that he did present his body because it cost him his life.

Also a shadow and type of Jesus Christ. I can go on and on but I think I will stop here. Maybe this study will help someone, I don’t know whether it will or not that I have done my best to bring this forth, in other words I have gave you the fat, and also have presented my body a living sacrifice and that is all that God wants and that is a reasonable service

May God Bless.

We Are All One

~~ We are  ALL  ONE ~~

1Cor. 1: 9. God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
10. Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

11. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13. Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14. I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15. Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16. And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17. For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

 

 


19. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

Verse 9–God called us to the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

Now did this say to the fellowship of himself?  Why not? No, it said of his Son. It never at any time does away with this fact that Jesus is the Son of God. It does not declare that Jesus is God.

V10–(very important)……I beseech you that ye all —- (what? yes. ALL)— speak the SAME THING. And that there be NO DIVISIONS among you….but be perfectly joined in the same mind and same judgment.

Now, take a long, slow look at that —- He wants us ALL to speak the same thing…. To have NO DIVISIONS… to be perfectly joined together in the same mind… WHY?

Because we are Christ’s Kingdom; and Christ’s Kingdom is the IMAGE OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

So how can just 1 being be ALL PERFECTLY UNITED;  JOINED…. SPEAKING THE SAME THING…HAVING THE SAME MIND…. BE PERFECTLY JOINED TOGETHER?

V11—- there were contentions among them… so here they had DEPARTED from that image of God. They were bringing disgrace upon that perfect image of Christ, the image of God.

V12- some say I am of Paul – others say I am of Apollo or Cephas or Christ….

Now what were they doing? Why is this so upsetting to Paul? Because they are doing the same thing the witch, the whore churches do…. Divide the kingdom of God. Yes, divide it. Say, there is Jesus only.

No, there are 3.

No, there is Mary, or the pope, or bro. So-and-so. Some say there is Santa clause. Etc. But the main thing is Satan has them DIVIDED. Now DIVIDED is opposite of UNITED.

Matters not what false doctrine you come up with — just depart from that truth, that God is a many-membered kingdom in perfect unity = perfectly JOINED TOGETHER.

Now if God is not a kingdom, PERFECTLY JOINED TOGETHER, WHY DID PAUL SAY THIS IS HOW THE CHURCH IS SUPPOSED TO BE?

V13–Is Christ divided? (Now answer that for yourself – does your doctrine divide Christ?) Do you contend that there is Jesus only? Or God is 3 people? You have divided Christ if you say either one of these.

V19–…I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

Now who is this? Those ‘wise’ folks who departed from the simplicity of the Written Word and went and walked in another way. They took up ‘scholarly’ doctors; they took up Strong’s; they took up commentary after commentary, dictionary after dictionary of the WISE OF THIS WORLD, who denied the truth of God’s Word.

But God said I will destroy all that ‘wisdom’ and bring it to nothing. All of your understanding you get from all those man-made books will fail.

Cpt. 2: 13. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Now the great Apostle Paul said (and he was a very educated man)- but he said he used not men’s wisdom to teach with.

1 Corinthians 3

1. And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

3. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4. For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5. Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6. I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
8. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one:  and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

 

 


9. For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.

Here Paul said that if you say I am of one or another, thus dividing them, then you are CARNAL.

V 5 & 6 shows that we have different jobs to do in the body, but we are just ministers by whom ye believed. He did the job of planting. Apollos watered, but it was God who gave the increase. That is all that matters.

V7 shows that we are nothing who do these jobs, only God is.

V8- now this is very important —– He that planteth and he that watereth are ONE. GET THAT, THEY BOTH WERE –ONE.

Now is he saying they merged and became 1 and the same man? Of course not.

Then why are carnal minded people saying that Jesus and His Father being one means they merged and became the same person or being?

See how carnal this reasoning is? Hope some of you can really learn from this. Christ is the image of God. We are not to be divided. We are ALL ONE EVEN AS THEY ARE ALL ONE.

 

What Word Is In Your Mouth?

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 (Original Message) Sent: 7/26/2006 1:59 PM
~~ Whose Word is in your mouth? ~~ By: Jo Smith — July 26, 2006

De 18:13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. De 18:14 For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

De 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

De 18:16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. 18:17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.

De 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. De 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

De 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Notice verse 18. God promised to raise up a prophet from among their brethren, which means he would be a man just like them. He would be from among these Jewish people. He will be a prophet like unto Moses. But what is so significant about this prophet? God said, I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.

So, who is this speaking of? Let the Word of God reveal it to you:

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

Now see that it is verified here in John 14, that God the Father put these words into Jesus’ mouth. So it was Jesus whom Moses prophesied would come and have God’s Word in his mouth. This is how Jesus could speak as if it were God himself speaking, for He knew that it was God’s Word He was speaking. He said I speak not of myself, meaning not from my own thoughts.

So now, watch this: Acts 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

See here that Peter told the people to hearken to MY WORDS. So how could Peter say hearken to MY WORDS? Because he knew, just as Jesus had known, that he was speaking God’s Word. He knew that Jesus had spoken God’s Word. He knew that God had put HIS words into the mouth of Jesus. He knew that he was also speaking the same Words which came out of the mouth of Jesus. So he knew he could say the same thing: the words I speak are NOT mine, but the Lord’s who sent me.

These same words are SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE. They are the Words of God, which He put into the mouth of Jesus to give to us. Peter then had these same Words of God in his mouth. He spoke only the true Word of God.

John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.

Now this proves that it was Jesus whom Moses spoke of in the law and the prophets.

So we see then that Peter could say the same thing which Jesus said, the words I speak are not mine, but the one who sent me. We find that Paul said he taught them only what was written in the law and prophets. So Paul was also speaking these same words of God.

All the prophets said this is the Word of the LORD. John said the revelation of Jesus was given to him by God. He said it was a revelation given to Jesus by God. So I am asking each one who reads this message, check to see whose words are you speaking? Who put their words into your mouth? If it is not the truth which is WRITTEN in God’s Word, then it is Satan’s words you are speaking and believing. Can you truly say, the words I speak are not mine, but the Lord’s who sent me? If not, then you need to stop speaking, pray and allow God to put his words into your heart.

Each message I write or speak, I always pray first for God to put his words into my mouth and heart and let it be just exactly as He would speak it. I fully believe He does just this.

If I cannot go to the Word of God and READ you what I am saying, then it is not God’s Word, for if it is God’s Word, it will be WRITTEN in His Book.

Which Book can you place your full confidence into and say, this is the Word of God? If you do not have a Written Word, which you can call the absolute truth of God, then you have nothing with which to prove a thing. Then you do not even know yourself if it is true or not.

God said prove all things and hold fast to that which is good. Only the truth is good. The truth is Written in God’s Book. Do you have God’s Book? If not, then how can you expect to ever know any truth? If you think that the Book you read has errors in it, is full of contradictions, then you have absolutely nothing in which you can place your faith. You cannot possibly even know any truth. If even one thing you say or believe crosses even one verse of Scripture, then know that it is wrong. You have the wrong interpretation of that verse. If it is truly God’s Word, then it cannot have error in it. Do you really think the people of today, who do not know the original languages, know more about what is true than the men who DID know both languages and DID have the anointing of God to rightly interpret the Word? If you cannot believe that God watched over His own Word and gave it to us perfect, then you are denying the true Power of God.

So check out every doctrine you believe. Is it God’s Word, did God put this into your mouth and mind, or did some church, some preacher, some theologian or scholar put these things into your mouth? Whose Word are you speaking? Whose Word do you believe? It is of utmost importance that you get this straight. Your eternal life depends upon believing the TRUTH. It depends upon loving and obeying the TRUTH. If you do not have the truth, then how can you know and love and obey the TRUTH?

I pray this will help someone to check your heart, your beliefs, and find the real truth. If not, then you will die believing a lie and be damned. Is it WRITTEN? In what Book? Do you have a Book you can put your full faith in? If not, you need to seek God while He may be found.

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From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 2/18/2004 11:08 AM
Below is a message I wrote today to my local home-county forum, which I have been teaching on a short while. Even though this was written expressily to them, I am posting it here because the over-all principle and condition prevails everywhere.

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Farewell to you all~~
For right now I feel that my work on the forum is unwanted and unneeded. I had wished to teach here for a long time. My Daughter, Wanna, had asked me to come and teach here a long time.

I have been teaching on the internet for three years. So far this also seems to be in vain. I have not found people who truly desire to know the deep and important truths of our precious Word of God.

I am not writing this to reproach or rebuke anyone. Right the opposite. This is a warning and admonition of eternal importance and consequence to your soul.

I have studied diligently the Word of God since childhood. I am not a novice who knows not whereof I speak. And I can truthfully say that the things I have learned and teach came directly to me from the Eternal God. I can truthfully say as Paul did, my teachings did not come from man, but from God.

Nothing I teach came from some other persons commentaries, sermons, books, church or any other source. It all came directly out of the KJV Word of God by comparing Scripture with other Scripture with God directing me and telling me what interprets what. God himself has spoken directly to me many, many times and revealed and told me things which I could never in a lifetime have thought of; things of which I have never heard a single person say or teach. In fact all of it was and is contrary to all that I have ever heard taught.

Now I know that this causes most people to think then it could not be right, but no. It is right the opposite. Just think. Jesus said only a few will ever find the straight, narrow way which leads to eternal life. A few. Not the many. Not the majority. It has never been the majority. Just look in Noah’s day. Only eight souls were saved. Jesus himself told us it would be the same as in Noah’s day. People, WAKE UP!

I am saying these things to try to wake someone up. Yes, wake you up. It is the midnight hour. Wake up and prepare to meet thy God. You think you are prepared because you go to some local church and pay your tithes. But I am warning you, this is truly against the Word of God, both things. It will not save your soul.

Jesus said unless you receive a LOVE FOR THE TRUTH, you will believe a lie and be damned. So see, believing a lie will damn your soul. Now you can go to church every day of your life and never miss a service and still go to hell fire. You can pay tithes of every dollar you ever earn and still lose your soul in hell fire. As a TRUE minister of truth, I warn you.

I hope every member of the forum will read this and heed this warning.

I know the Word says to assembly together, but let me show you something you are all missing in the Word of God. Jesus told the woman at the well that the day had come, then, when the true Worshippers would not worship in a set, designated place, = Jerusalem and the mountain the Samaritans worshipped in . He said we would worship in spirit and in truth.

In spirit means in our own soul and mind. Keep our minds stayed on God and think on him and pray and meditate on His Word. It means to love the truth and seek the truth and cleave to the truth.

It does NOT mean go to church. Jesus said where two or three are gathered together He is there in their midst. This is the church, not your building and bunches of folks. This can be right in our homes, cars, or anywhere.

Isa 1:4 Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward.

Isa 1:5 Why should ye be stricken any more? ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.

This Scripture in Isaiah is speaking to you at the end of time. See, going away backward is taught in Isaiah 28. After Jesus brought you into grace and gave you freedom, you chose to go backward to law and reject His Grace which came on the Day of Pentecost. I am warning everyone of you, without this same experience, along with Baptism in Water in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins, you will have no salvation. You went away backward to law and rejection of the blood covenant of the blood of Jesus Christ and count it an unholy thing.

I know you do not realize this. But when you do not receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and walk in grace, rejecting law, you will fall backward and be lost.

Isa 1:10 Hear the word of the LORD, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

Isa 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Isa 1:12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

Isa 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.

Isa 1:14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

Now I know this is long, but it is important to you. Please all of you read all of this and pay attention. This is for your welfare, not mine.

Notice in verse 10 he calls you Sodom. Verse 11 proves God never had any pleasure in the blood of animals. When you reject the NT way of salvation and return to law, believing and idolizing natural Israel instead of Spiritual Israel, you place yourself back under the sacrifices of animals. That is where you all are.

Proof? Sure. The next verses asked them who required this of them. God never required the blood of animals from them to tread his courts. See, this did not come from God, it came from Adam wanting to make himself god. Go back and read Genesis and you will see this.

God also told them the CALLING OF ASSEMBLIES and SOLEMN (no joy, no life, No moving of the Spirit, etc) meetings are INIQUITY. Now you reject this truth if you wish, but it will damn your own soul to hell fire. But God is saying right here that he despises CALLED ASSEMBLIES. This means a SET TIME to get together and ‘worship’ him. This is your local churches. They SET YOU A TIME TO GET TOGETHER.

These meetings were not called by the Spirit of God. They were decided on by some man. God has no chance to move when He desires to show you something or bless you. No, it has to be at the SET TIME. And all the rest of your time you spend on foolishness, watching some junk on your tv, some movie, playing some silly game, doing your stuff, your idol worship holidays. God is not in it at all.

And when you do get together it is solemn. There is no moving of God’s Spirit. Most of the ‘churches’ today will not even allow such a thing. They know nothing of it. So you are not worshipping in Spirit and in Truth. You are following the Catholic system. They set up this set time for church. The Apostles got together every day. They met in homes, caves, by rivers, where ever and whenever God moved on them. It was not a set time or place. God despises this thing of a set time and a set place. For in this system, He has no leadership or right to move and tell you when and where and how to worship him.

This thing of ‘go to church’ at a certain place and time is in verse 14. Go back and read this and read it and read it till you see what it is saying. If you blind yourself to this, you will lose your soul.

He said your APPOINTED feasts [this means the same thing as the called assemblies = church time] my soul HATES. It is a weary to God. He despises this type of ‘worship’. This is the very thing Jesus denounced there to the woman at the well.

I have placed more revelation of truth in this forum to you than you have ever heard in a life time or will ever hear at any church. For the most part, these messages have only been ignored. You refuse to acknowledge them. And the ones which were dealt with was only with rejection.

Many of you can jump right in the trivia game and just really love this and stay right with it. But of what good is it to your soul? None. You can learn all the ‘trivia’ questions and answers there are to know and it will not give you the truth of the Word of God. You will end up only knowing some unimportant facts. It does NOT give you the understanding of the MEANING of the Word of God. Without an understanding of the truth of the Word, you will end up in hell fire.

Unless you receive a LOVE FOR THE TRUTH, you will lose your soul. You love games. You love unimportant things. You love appointed feasts or solemn assemblies, things which God declares that He hates.

But the revelation of the truth of God’s Word you care not for. It had better be a warning to you. I have presented to this forum truths which have lay hidden in the Word since the days of Paul. The Roman Church, of which you are all the image, has taken away all the knowledge of truth and replaced it with holidays and lies. You fell for it.

You think you are different, but you follow everything that whore church taught and did. Your ‘churches’ are patterned exactly according to her idol temples. You do everything as she does. And you love not the truth just as she does not love truth.

You set up one man to rule over you and PAY him just as the whore does. You think this relieves you of any need to study the Word and do the works of righteousness God calls for. You PAY him to do this for you. It is evil and iniquity. Those paid preachers do not give you a thimble full of truth. Yet you pay him thousands of dollars for his little ‘sermonet’.

The Word of God declares that the ‘hireling’ will flee when he sees the ‘wolf’ coming to eat up you sheep. Now look at what just happened here in this forum.

A big bad WOLF appeared on the scene. What happened? The paid preachers ignored this and would have let this wolf continue to call the Word of God a lie, cast doubt into everyone’s mind, and tear down everything you believe in. Those of us who rose up and went to war with this evil were reprimanded for doing so. Was the wolf reprimanded? Not at all. No. This big bad wolf, who came in to devour the little sheep, was upheld and protected!

Where were the hirelings? Over thee PLAYING trivia questions. To what avail? It means not one thing to the true revelation of God’s Word. I have seen many names appear to uphold the big bad wolf, or in the trivia games which I had not seen before. See? People can jump right in with the things which are not of any value spiritually. But let a message of great revelation come in, and it is virtually ignored. Shame, shame on your souls!

I want you to know I am not writing this because the teacher who placed it on the board was me, but for your soul sake. Besides God was and is the teacher. I have nothing which He did not GIVE ME. So you are ignoring God’s words, not me.

Just look at this situation. God sent in the truth of His Word. Then almost immediately after, true to his pattern of old, Satan sent in his wolf to destroy it and devour it. Why did the wolf appear here? Because God had sent in the truth.

You go to your little church and pay a man who sends your little children out to play games while the service goes on. This is a trick of Satan to deprive the children of any chance of learning anything of God. Most of you are delighted to have it so. Raise them in total ignorance of God. Yes sure. Teach them that church is a place to play. Sure that is what is it for, play.

You gripe and carry on to make a big to-do and make yourself look ‘religious’ about the government taking prayer out of schools. Why? Did God raise up schools to teach your children to pray? Of course not. He told you the parents to do this. He told your paid hirelings to do this. Do you? Does that preacher of yours? NO. You both agree to send them out to play. Do you PRAY at your church? No. Do you pray with your kids at home?

You gripe that they took Bible reading out of the schools. Again is this the place for it? NO. [now don’t get me wrong, they should do it there and everywhere else for that matter] But the point is you are the one supposed to read the Word to your children and teach it to them. God never told any school to do this. He told you parents to do this. Do it diligently. Do it every day. Do you do this? No. You let them sit and watch movies and such junk to keep them out of your way . Shame, Shame on you. You will pay for this yourself. God will not hold the schools accountable for the children growing up ignorant of Him. He will hold you and your ‘church’.

You fuss day and night that the schools do not pray and read the Word to your children. Yet you take them to your ‘church’ and send them out to play when the praying should be going on and the Bible teaching should be going on. What? Am I hearing right! Sure. This is EXACTLY how it is with your little ‘church’.

It is most strange to me that people grip of taking prayer and Bible reading out of the schools, THEN take them to church and send them out to play! My such darkness and backwardness!

So with these words, for now, I bid you farewell. I love you all and I enjoyed my stay here. But for now, I feel I can do no good here. If in the future I feel or God leads that it can be of value, then I will be back. But if not, all I can say is people wake up! The midnight hour is upon us all. When Jesus returns will he find you watching and waiting? Will you go out to meet him with joy in your soul? Think upon this!

If any of you decided you want to learn some truth, there are plenty of true messages here for you to study. Go to it!

Love to you all,

Jo Smith

the beginning

~~ The Beginning ~~

1 John 1

1. That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

2. (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

3. That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

In the beginning. What is the beginning? What was in the beginning? Which beginning is it speaking of? Unless you find the Scriptural answers to these questions you will never really know God’s truth.

John the disciple wrote this book of 1John. So read verse one carefully. It said that which was from the beginning… so did he go back to the beginning of the world? Did he go back to the beginning of creation? No. How do I know? He said that which WE have HEARD.

Now he is saying that which we, Jesus’ disciples have heard. Then he said that which WE have seen with OUR eyes, which WE have looked upon, and OUR HANDS have handled, of the WORD OF LIFE.

The WORD. The Word of LIFE. My Words are SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE. Now John is saying that which I am speaking of, my own eyes have seen it, my own hands have handled it, and my own ears have heard it.

Now verse two. The LIFE was manifested, and WE have seen it, and bear witness unto you that ETERNAL LIFE, which was WITH the Father and was manifested unto us.

Now this is powerful truth here. He said the life I am speaking of here is ETERNAL LIFE, not temporal human life. The face that John had seen and handled and heard this eternal life shows it was not way back in the beginning of creation or time.

In order for them to have seen it shows it was visible. See he made it very plain that he is not speaking ‘seeing’ with understanding; for he said we have seen this with our eyes. He said the life, which was manifested to us, is ETERNAL LIFE.

So they could not have been speaking of the human man Jesus born from Mary. For Jesus had mortal, temporal life. How do I know this? Because he DIED. Now if he had not been mortal he could not have died. That is what mortal means– having the ability to die. He was also corruptible. Anything, which is mortal, is also corruptible. So Jesus in his earthly life did not have and manifest ETERNAL LIFE.

The fact that he died proved he did not possess eternal life. Eternal life means life, which can never end. Jesus said the things concerning me have an end. God never has an end. Eternal life, by its very meaning never has an end. If it did, then it would not have been eternal. Something which is eternal never ends.

Now back to verse one. He said our hands have handled, of the WORD of life. He had handled the Word of Life. How? After Jesus was RESURRECTED. Jesus was given ETERNAL LIFE AT HIS RESURRECTION, just as we will be given eternal life at our resurrection. If we had it now we could not die. The fact that we are still in a mortal body shows we do not possess eternal life now. Many make the mistake of supposing that they have eternal life now.

He said for the life was manifested. When? At Jesus’ resurrection. That is when this eternal life was manifested to them and they saw and heard and handled this Word of Life.

This is the very same Word which John 1: 1 said was in the beginning with God and was God. This Word was fully manifested when God raised up Jesus from the dead. See verse 2, We shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father. This is the Word. The Word is that eternal life. This is what was with the Father.

In the beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with God and the WORD was God. It is not speaking of the human man Jesus. It proves this by saying this is ETERNAL LIFE. This Word is eternal life.

This is the FLESH the Word became. This is that eternal life. This is the fulfillment of 1Tim. 3: 16. And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

See? God was manifest in the FLESH. When? At the resurrection which is the beginning. See it is the same John is speaking of when he said it was manifested to us and we saw it. It was the resurrected Christ who had been given eternal life and the power of the Godhead. All power in Heaven and earth was GIVEN to Jesus after his resurrection.

 

God was manifest in the FLESH. Which FLESH? The resurrected, glorified FLESH. The eternal life. The fullness of the Word.

God was not manifested in the baby Jesus. That was not God. Jesus grew up a natural human being. He did not show God in any manner until he was a full thirty years old. That is true.

He did no miracles until he was 30 years old. Why? Because He was born under the law. He was in the darkness of law. The law was in him. It had to be. He had to do away with it. He could not begin his ministry until he was 30 years old. That was law. He was a priest so he had to obey that law.

He did not have the Holy Ghost until John baptized him when he was 30 years old. Until then no one had any idea he was any different from others. Only Mary and Joseph and a few close relatives knew of his unusual conception. That is all that was different. His only difference was his obedience to God.

But he was not manifesting God in his human flesh. Sure he did some miracles and healings and raised some dead folks after he started his ministry, but so did Peter, Paul, and the others. They all did it by faith in God. Jesus did his by faith in God.

So if this made Jesus be God, then it would have made Peter be God also. But it did not make him be God. And it was not manifesting God in the flesh. It only showed some of God’s power. Paul did the same thing.

God was not manifested in FLESH until the day He raised Jesus from the dead and gave him eternal life. The glorified body was how God was manifested in FLESH. His Word was in this glorified body. Now the disciples saw him, heard him and handled him after his resurrection. He said, feel me and handle me and see. So they saw.

Where did he tell them to handle him and feel him and see before his resurrection? I know of no place.

God was preached to the Gentiles. When? After the Day of Pentecost. So all of 1Tim. 3: 16 refers to after Jesus’ resurrection.

It does in no way say that the human man Jesus was God. That is a lie of the devil.

Rev. 1: 5. And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Now this declares that Jesus was the first BEGOTTEN of the dead. This links God begetting him to his resurrection, just as Paul did in Romans 1.

Rev. 1: 8. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Now here Jesus said I am the beginning. The beginning of What? It is the beginning of the Grace age, the Church age, the New Jerusalem, the New Heaven, eternal life for human beings.

He said I am the ending. The ending of what? Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my WORDS shall never pass away. The old heaven and earth of law passed away when Jesus came out of that grave. Thus he was the ending of that darkness. He ended that age up until the N.T. started. He was the beginning of the N.T. and the ending of the O.T.

The law was in Jesus; Jesus was under the law. But when he came out of that grave he brought us grace and truth.

 

Want proof?

John 1: 14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The WORD was made FLESH. Now we have proven this was at the resurrection when He came out of the grave in glorified flesh. We have proven this is the glory. We have proven this is when the Father beget Jesus in his own image. That is when they beheld him. That is when they beheld the glory. There was no glory before this. That is the glory of the only begotten of the Father… now he was full of grace and truth.

See he was full of law before that time. He was MADE UNDER THE LAW, MADE OF A WOMAN. MADE OF THE SEED OF DAVID AND ABRAHAM.

Now I ask you, was the seed of David and Abraham corruptible seed? Of course it was. Peter said in Acts 13 that David saw corruption and is still in his grave. So this proves he had corruptible seed. You must call the Word a lie to say that Jesus was not made of corruptible seed.

He died. Peter said now no more to RETURN to corruption. Now he will see death no more. Why? Because now he has glorified flesh; not he is immortal and incorruptible and now he lives to dies no more. Now that is GLORY.

Yes, that is the glory they beheld. That is the flesh the Word was made. Eternal life.

17. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

18. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Now this said the law was given by Moses. See Jesus was born and lived under that law. So He could not have given us grace and truth until he put an END to that darkness of law. He gave us the light of truth and eternal life.

Verse 18–No man hath SEEN God at any time. So when they saw him manifested they were seeing the Word made flesh at Jesus’ resurrection. The only begotten Son, (remember this was at his Resurrection, Romans 1) which is in the bosom of the Father (this means up in Heaven) he hath declared him. Yes the only begotten Son of God, the resurrected Christ is the one who declared or manifested unto us the Father. No man hath seen God.

Col. 1: 18. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Now here is another verse saying that Jesus is the BEGINNING. He is the firstborn from the DEAD. That is two witnesses saying he is the firstborn from the Dead. This is also the link to his being the beginning. So if Jesus is the beginning… then in the beginning… in Jesus was the Word. This is how God was manifested to us in the FLESH.

Rev. 3: 14. And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; these things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.

Now that is our last verse in this study. We have already shown that Jesus was that faithful and true witness, so here it said he was the BEGINNING of the creation of God.

Yes, Jesus Christ, the resurrected one, was the BEGINNING of the creation of God. This is when God created an earthly man in the image and glory of God.

 

By: Jo Smith

5/30/03