Can God’s Word Work Evil?

I wrote this for a question on Yahoo:

My answer here is a bit long…but please, all Christians take time to read this.********

When some say we have no answers to this onslaught trying to discredit God, they simply do not know what God teaches those who diligently seek his Truth, by searching the Scriptures, instead of looking to preachers/priests, who do not know the word themselves.

Now, for the sake of any honest folks here:  The WORD,  that is W.O.R.D., of God is all powerful.
The WORD of God creates.  The WORD of God spoke the world into existence.  IT WAS NOT JESUS.  It was the WORD.  THAT IS W.O.R.D. of God.

All things were made by him,   the WORD.  The WORD OF GOD IS NOT JESUS.
The word of God is God’s thoughts, EXPRESSED.

Now for the needed truth:
Whether God himself speaks his Word, or someone else speaks his Word, that WORD is the power and it will accomplish whatever it was sent to do.

Now get this.
Christians, learn this.  Others do not really want truth; they hate God and just want to send others into their own darkened mindset.

God anointed his Son, Adam.  This anointing is the POWER TO SPEAK God’s word, the same As God speaks it.
Adam is that anointed cherub in Eze. 28.   Jesus said, the Spirit of the Lord God is UPON ME…..(*for he has anointed me to speak)…
Now notice it did not say, I am the Lord God, now did it?  No.  It said, the Spirit of the Lord God is UPON ME, for He has ANOINTED ME.

Now God anointed Saul to be King of Israel.  But after a while Saul rebelled and set himself up in the ‘seat’ of God, to do as Saul pleased.
Then God chose another, and anointed David to be king.  BUT.  ..David knew he could not kill God’s anointed, nor could he become king until Saul DIED.
David had the same anointing as Saul, but Saul was first, so David could not become king until the death of Saul.  Both men knew this.  Saul sought to kill David to keep Saul’s line as kings.

Now this was done to teach us God’s truth.
Adam was anointed FIRST.  Adam is still anointed and still ruling this world.   Sure his body died, but his Spirit did not.
Adam can speak the Word of God and it will do whatever he says, for it is Gods POWER.
So when Adam rebelled against God, he set up war against God, with God’s own power, the WORD.

Adam then perverted the creation of God.  He set wild animals to become vicious and eat others.
He made poison snakes.  He set up storms to destroy with.
He does the evil…but it is God’s own power, for it is God’s own word, given to Adam, before Adam became bad.
God cannot take back his own word, so he cannot stop Adam, yet.
He cannot take back his anointing.  There will come a time, when Adam will be destroyed in  the lake of Fire.
Then Jesus will take over the ruling of this world.  Then Jesus will show forth his own power as He speaks the Word of God for GOOD.

This is why and how there is war in heaven…Adam and his angels, speaking God’s word , in power, for evil.
It comes from God…only…because God first gave Adam this power.

God does not do the evil.  God hates the evil.  But it is  God’s own word, God’s own power, which he gave to his son, Adam, so he cannot stop it yet.  See, no matter who speaks God’s true Word, it is God’s own thoughts, expressed.  It is just as powerful if I speak it, as if God himself speaks it, for it is God.  The Word is God.  Paul could speak and a dead person rose up.  Peter spoke and a dead person came alive.  They spoke and sick were healed…same as when Jesus did this.  I can do it; you can do it.
Adam uses this power for evil.  But it is still the power of God.  Not that God wants evil, but Adams faith works evil for him.
God will someday stop this, but only when it is time.

This is why Jesus said, if YE speak to a mountain to remove, it will obey you. You may say, (speak) to a tree to be cast into the sea and it will be.  See, this is the proof that as Jesus anointed his disciples, it was the same anointing which he had received from God…to be able to SPEAK the Word of God and it will BE.
If we speak it is faith, it will be, for it is Gods word which is the power to heal, create of tear down.
But God himself does NOT speak for evil.  This is done only by Adam and his followers.

Only when something takes place, which humans know nothing about, will God be able to stop Adam without hurting his own Word and power, which Adam now possess.

Does anyone out there understand this?  I surely hope so.

By: Jo Smith , Sept 30, 2010

False Sense of Salvation

Good Morning,
I should have written this up last night. But I spent all day on Yahoo Answers and Facebook. But I was going to do a study on idol worship. But I ran across these verses and it changed my whole thinking for the whole day.

You know how the world is being deceived by the Jews who claim they are holy and has this whole planet bowing down to them? Well, I ran across these verses and thought: “They can not escape this saying. And also I had posted it to the Muslim chat that I am on, because they have been deceived also into believing that Jesus is NOT the SON of GOD, so every verse that says that, they do not believe.

So here it is:

1 John 4:3 (KJV)
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

How many people deny Jesus Christ? The Jews are the main ones. And the Jehovah Witness say that he is Michael the Archangel. I have no clue how they came to that conclusion.

See what the verse says? It says it is the spirit of the antichrist. So how in light of that scripture can anyone believe that the Jews are holy and closer to GOD than anyone else? They deny Jesus Christ. And so would something that is holy have the spirit of the antichrist? NO! The antichrist is evil. Against everythng GOD does and will do.

I am not against Jews. It is that this world is so in love with the JEWS. Even when they are killing and lying and raping and everything that is against GOD. And yet people still say that they are holy. Please remember they do not follow the TORAH. They follow the TALMUD. Which is a bunch of sayings of Rabbi’s. Their minds are filthy. Who do you think got the serpent seed doctrine started? It was a JEWISH RABBI in the 1800’s.

Let me move on to my next verse, before I blow a gasget.

1 John 2:4-6 (KJV)
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Who is this verse speaking about? It is speaking about Jesus Christ. And for the ones that say they know him, and does not what Jesus has said for us to do is a liar. OK. Who can fall into that catergory? Alot of people. That is how they are deceived and deceive others. That is why you must study the Bible daily. I do study daily. You can read until your eyeballs fall out, but if you do not walk like JESUS walked, you are a liar.  Remember when Jesus said: Be perfect, like your Father in heaven is perfect? Jesus was already perfect and shows us how to be perfect also. So the ones that say I know JESUS and I do what JESUS says. Ok. It will be proven by a person’s actions and words while they are on this earth. Remember when a person dies, it is all over. No going back and doing it again. The day you wake up is judgement Day. And a person will be judged by the actions and their walk on this earth.

Do not be deceived by people that say: As long as you believe you will go to heaven. That is a lie too. You can believe all you want. But do your actions on this earth show that you believe in him? Do you follow what Jesus said? If every person did what Jesus said to do then this world would have no wars. Jesus brings peace not war.

Let’s look at some more verses:

1 John 2:8-11 (KJV)
8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

In reading these verses here what do you think? The darkness? What is the darkness? The Law! That is what darkness is. And the what is the true light? The true light is the gospel of Jesus Christ. Look at the next verse, and what does it tell you? The ones that say they have Jesus Christ, and yet hate his brother is in dakeness. What is a brother? Have you thought about it? A brother is anyone of any nation of any nationality that follows JESUS CHRIST till the day he dies.

But the ones that hateth his brother, it could be a Jehovah Witness hating Catholics because of something. It could be Jews who hate Muslims. It could be Christians against Muslims, & Jews. Jesus wanted Unity of all! And do you think that Jews want unity of anything?

Ok next verse:

1 John 2:15-17 (KJV)
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Now this verse says alot. We are to love not this world. But how many do? How many of us can not wait to go to that next movie, or stop reading GOD’s WORD to see the favorite TV show? Or wish they had a lot of money?
This is the way of the world. Do you see what the verse says? The love of the Father is not in you? So how can you say you love the Father and the SON and lusts after things that are in this world? You can not have it both ways. Sorry!

See what it says? But HE that does the will of GOD abideth forever? So the ways of  this world is not doing the will of GOD. So, I think that each and every one of us needs to stop doing what they are doing and start doing HIS WILL.  It is up to you. I can not force anyone to just live for GOD. But if you want eternal life you must live for GOD or you will perish.

1 John 2:22-23 (KJV)
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

I think that this verse speaks it all. Those atheist out there who claim they do not believe in any religion is the antichrist. Plain and simple. The ones that claim they have the Father and deny Jesus Christ. Has NOT the Father or the SON. SO they are lost for eternal damnation.

See if you acknowledge the Son you have the Father also. But there are some out there that deny the SON and claim they have GOD. That is a lie. They do not have anything. But who will correct them?

It is up to all of us to teach this world about JESUS. Jews included. But they listen to the Rabbi’s who is leading them to hell I guess. They deny Jesus. And Jesus will deny them also to the FATHER.

Love you all.
Tweety

 

 

King of Babylon

King of Babylon

Who is Babylon?  Who is the king of Babylon?  When did Babylon exist?  Lets start with  this:
Isa 47: 1 Come down , and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.
2 Take the millstones, and grind meal: uncover thy locks, make bare the leg, uncover the thigh, pass over the rivers.
3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered , yea, thy shame shall be seen : I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man.
4 As for our redeemer , the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel.
5 Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called , The lady of kingdoms.
6 I was wroth with my people, I have polluted mine inheritance, and given them into thine hand: thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.
7 And thou saidst , I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it.
8 Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:
9 But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.
10 For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said , None seeth me. Thy wisdom and thy knowledge, it hath perverted thee; and thou hast said in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me.
11 Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off : and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know .

Thy wisdom and knowledge has perverted you.  Who can this be? It goes to Eze 28.  Here God speaks to the king of Tyrus .
It will be a lot of Scripture to read, but unless you do, unless you want truth, unless you are willing to spend some time reading and trying to learn God’s truth, you will die in your darkness and end up lost.
Now, Eze 28: 1 The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying , 2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up , and thou hast said , I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: 3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: 4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures:
Now,  we see from the above, that this person was wiser than Daniel and had lifted himself up as God.  He said I sit in the ‘seat’ of God, or the same as the ruler, God.
God said to him, you are a MAN. So we find that this is a man, not an angel, or a god.  But he is claiming to be God.  We see him proud and lifted up in his own vain mind.
Who was this?
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God;
So, we find that he had been in Eden, the garden of God.  Know yet, who this is?  NO?  Well then, more information:

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth ; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created , till iniquity was found in thee.
Here we find that he was created.  Who did God create?  What man did God create?  It said he was a MAN.  Now it says that he was created.  He was perfect, when he was created until iniquity was found in him.
So we see that God created some man, put him into Eden, and this man was perfect.  God had also anointed this CHERUB to be a covering, or to keep the garden and protect it.  But then iniquity was found in this man.
Know yet?  Who is this?

How many men did God create?  How many were in Eden, the garden of God?  Did this one become evil or disobedient?  Know yet?  No, then lets get some more information.  Want to nail this down for sure, BECAUSE THIS IS THE KING OF BABYLON.

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned : therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

Now verse 16 should clinch this to everyone.  God cast this profane man OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN OF GOD.
Who was cast out?  The same man whom God put into Eden. God cast Adam out of Eden.

This fits perfectly the beginning Scripture in Isa 47.  It is the same one.  It is the one who was beautiful, proud, and sinned, so that God cast him out of Eden.  It is none other than God’s own son, Adam.  This is the one God had anointed to be the covering for the people and to lead them and teach them of God.
But no.  He became proud, lifted up and set himself up as God.
So now, lets take this a bit further.
Gen 3: 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die : 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened , and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
This SERPENT tells Eve, God is lying.  He just knows that we will become as gods.  
I am God.  I sit in the seat of God.  You are a MAN.  I created you.  You were prefect then.  But you became proud and lifted up in your own wisdom and beauty and became profane.  So, God cast him out of Eden, the Garden of God.

Who is that serpent?
Mat 23: 28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say , If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold , I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee,

Now we are getting somewhere.  So Jesus shows here that the children of Abraham, the natural seed, the Pharisees, HYPOCRITES, are the serpents, (vipers).  Didn’t John also point them out as being serpents and vipers?  Sure he did.
So here is solid proof that the scripture SERPENT is a human man, who is a religious hypocrite.  How much more fitting is this with a man who lifts himself up AS GOD?

But now, how do we tie him in as being the king of  Babylon?  Notice, Jesus told this old Jerusalem, (and don’t forget that Eve is called the Mother of all living and so is New Jerusalem.  So it is two cities or nations, or trees, or covenants.  Both these cities have a king over them.  Both of these kings are sons of God.) Both of these men were anointed by God to be a covering.  Notice here that Jesus told this old city, (tree), you are guilty of all the righteous blood shed on earth, beginning with ABEL.

So this positively places the death of Abel, back in this old city, Jerusalem.  So how is that?
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together , even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold , your house is left unto you desolate.
So, that old ‘city’ or tree/nation, was left desolate.  They had killed and stoned all the prophets and those God sent unto them.  It began with Abel.  So Cain and Adam are in this old serpent city.

How does this tie in with Babylon?
Rev 18: 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying , Babylon the great is fallen , is fallen , and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Here we find that Babylon was great and fell twice… twice dead plucked up by the roots.
She is a habitation of devils. Notice, kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the MERCHANTS waxed RICH through her.  Rich churches.  Rich man. Rich cherub in Eden.  Merchandizing the things of God.  Selling the things of God = mark of the beast.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities
God REMEMBERS her INIQUITIES.  He was perfect, until INIQITY was found in him.  God remembers this.

Now for proof that she is the same one we started with, in Isa 47:  (same words here):
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously , so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

What ties her undoubtedly with the old Jerusalem, which Jesus identified as serpents:
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
See, the very same words here…she is guilty of all the blood of prophets and of saints which were slain on this earth.  
This is concrete proof that old Jerusalem, old anointed Cherub, Adam, (the one cast out of Eden) is this old serpent, whore against God, city which has murdered all the righteous on this earth, beginning with Abel.
And I can assure you that this wicked, carnal man, who hated God and saints, also killed the righteous Mother of all living, Eve.

How does this fit with king of Babylon?
Rev 17: 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written , MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

If you run a study on those colors, and stones, pearls, here, you will find that this is that old law tabernacle, which the Israelites made in the wilderness.  It is that old tree of death, LAW.  Adam/Satan, is the king over this old city, Babylon.
It is the same description of old Babylon, in Isa 47.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
So see here, that this woman rules over the kings of the earth.  It began in Eden and runs all the way till the end, when Jesus comes and does away with this wicked son of God, Satan.

Now to prove that the old dragon, serpent, Satan and devil are all the same person:
Rev. 20: 1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
This first king over this earth, had to be done away with, before the second son, or anointed King could come and take the throne and rule on this earth.  Read on in this chapter and you will see Jesus come, after Satan, or Adam, is shut up.

After this, in chapter 21, we see the new heaven and earth come, as Jesus takes his rightful place as King of this earth.  He is not there now, and that is what I am trying to warn you all about.  Adam is STILL ruling on this earth.  That is WHY HE TAKES PEOPLE BACK INTO THAT OLD LAW COVENANT.

He can only have the DUST or human flesh, to rule over.  He cannot rule in the Spirit or over those who walk after the Spirit and not in the flesh.  If you go back to law, saying women must be silent, you are under old Adam, or Satan, or tree of knowledge of good and evil = LAW.  Any old PROPHET, claiming to be of God, since Jesus came on this earth, is that old serpent, going back to LAW.  God said He only speaks in these last days by his Son, Jesus.  Not by some old prophet, which is that old covenant, which Adam is king over.
It makes no difference how many so-called miracles they do, they are under Satan, or they would not wish to put some down and others up, and go back under law.  Jesus said, his people are ALL ONE.  No male or female, in Christ.  So those who put women down, are under this old evil Serpent spirit of king of Babylon, Adam.

Now the thing I wish to show you in this message, now that we have proven that old Adam is this old serpent, anointed cherub, and king of Babylon, let me show you something you all need to be very careful about.

This wicked Adam/Satan, serpent, is still ruling this earth today.  That is why all the violence is here.  He has his words in Scripture, same as Jesus and  God do.  He is the one who deals in fury, wrath and violence. God hates violence.  He is not the guilty one. Adam is.  Because God anointed this son with power, before he became wicked, he still has that power and still rules this earth.  There are two different messages all through Scripture.  It is the tree of death (law), and the tree of life, (grace).  You may partake of either one.  Most are still eating of that tree of death, which Adam is the King over.

All preachers, who make merchandize or sell or take pay, are servants of this wicked one. It is his evil spirit.  All who take you back to law, at any point, is of this wicked one.  All who claim to be prophet, since Jesus, is of this wicked one.
All who claim that women must be silent are of this wicked one.
Adam is the one who required animal sacrifices.  God tells in Isa one and 66, that he hates these things.  He asks, who required this of you?  See, it is revealing that the words of Adam, Satan, are in Scripture, posing as the words of the Lord.  He is Lord of this earth.  He is the god of this world system and that is why we are told to  not be conformed to this world.

If you keep holidays, you are conforming to this world, and Adam, or Satan, can have full control over you and bring his wrath on you.  There is no protection to those who worship or honour idols.  All of the holidays are idols, and so leaves you under the king of Babylon, not of New Jerusalem.
If you try to go to God or serve God through some old prophet, church, or anything OTHER THAN JESUS CHRIST, you are under the king of Babylon and that is Satan or serpent.
He can destroy you if he chooses, for only in Grace, or Jesus Christ, do we have God’s protection.
Notice that God calls this a great city. Babylon is a great city.  It is not a tiny, puny thing of no consequence.   She says in Isa 47, I am and none else.  That is old  Adam,…saying I am God.
But God still says to him, you are just a MAN, and a wicked man, at that.

By: Jo Smith ~~~ Jan. 13, 20011

Often Reproved

~~~~~ Often Reproved ~~~~~

 

Proverbs 1:5–A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels.

 

v20–Wisdom crieth without; she uttereth her voice in the streets:

v21–She crieth in the chief place of concourse, in the openings of the gates: in the city she uttereth her words, saying,

 

v22–How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

 

v23–Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

v24–Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;

v25–But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:

 

v26–I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh/

v27–When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.

 

v28–Then shall they call upon me, but I will NOT answer; they shall seek me early, but they SHALL NOT FIND ME:

 

v29–For that they HATED KNOWLEDGE, and did not chose the fear of the LORD:

v30 — They would none of my counsel: they DESPISED ALL MY REPROOF.

 

v31–Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.

 

v32–For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.

v33– But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

 

The above Scripture is a mighty pronouncement of God against the ungodly who refuse to answer when He calls them; or repent when they are reproved of Him.

 

It is a very dangerous thing to turn away when God reproves you for sin. God said it is a fool who does not want the knowledge of God. But to those who do turn at His reproof, He will pour out His spirit unto you and make known His words to you.

 

This is why so many people never do understand His words, because they have not turned from their sins when He reproved them. His word said they hate those who stand in the ‘gate’ = God’s way, and rebukes. See, this hatred of those God sent to rebuke or reprove them, is the cause of their own destruction.

 

I saw an old man stumbling trying to get onto the sidewalk a good number of years ago. My heart went out to the man, and I began to pray for him. Believe it or not, God rebuked me for this, and said to me (as plain as anyone ever spoke to me)– “don’t feel sorry for that man or pray for him; you do not know the evil that man has done. This is why he is in this condition.”

 

This was not anyone I knew; had never seen him before; nor since. But see, God knew this man’s wicked life and would not allow him to be prayed for. This is the truth before the Living God.

 

I went into a nursing home once. It was like a ‘hall of horrors’. The people in there were in the most pitiful condition. It was just sickening to see. I felt pity for them. But God said to me, this is the fulfillment of Proverbs one. They have mocked and scorned my words all these years; worshiped idols; taught idol worship to their children (santa claus, easter bunnies, tooth faries, etc.)

 

There were pictures of turkeys, pumpkins and all such all over the halls; it was around that time of year. God said, this is how they taught the children I let them have; so now, it is all they have in life. They are here in this condition because they refused my call; they did not turn at my reproof. So not, I am laughing at their calamity; I am laughing and turned away from them in their destruction. It is too late for these folks who worshiped idols all their lives.

 

People, I am not making this up; God told me this. He showed me this is the fulfillment of Proverbs one.

 

If you wait until your calamity is upon you; or your destruction is upon you, it will be too late then to call upon God; For go back and read v28– He said they would call then but He would not hear them. They will seek him then, but will not find him.

 

IF a nation or an individual waits until God brings His wrath upon them, it is too late to turn, repent, and call upon Him. You had better listen to God now; repent today; quit mocking and scorning the truth of God’s Word when it is presented to you.

 

You who hate the Holy Ghost’s working, you had better repent today if you still can. You had better humble your proud self at His feet and let him speak in tongues through you; let Him roll you on the floor if He decides to do so. Your pride will send your soul into hell, after it takes your body into suffering here.

 

If our nation waits until God’s wrath hits again to repent, it may be too late. If he turns His back on you, He may stop a child of God from praying for you. He told some of the prophets to quit praying for certain people. He told Samuel to quit praying for Saul. He told Jeremiah not to pray for those people in His day.

Don’t tell me God will not do this. It is written in the Word.

 

I hope this will help some you quit your scoffing at the true things of God just because your flesh and your little old fake preachers and churches speak against the true moving of God’s Spirit.

 

Be not deceived, God is not mocked; whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Your reaping day is just ahead; both you individuals and America.

 

God has placed this message on my heart for several weeks and told me to do it now. I hope and pray many of you will heed the warning. Don’t end up in a nursing home, unable to care for yourself because you refused God’s counsel.

 

Now, I want to make this clear; I am NOT saying that EVERYONE in these conditions, that this is the reason. I do not know that matter. I do know most of it is because of this.

 

 

 

The Seed Generation

Unless you really study and know the true Word of God, there is a ‘million’ delusions out there which will trip you up.  Now we have in our world today, many who claim that the Word of God was not written to us today, but to those who lived 2,000 years ago.  NO WORD FOR US TODAY.  Such deception.
and they base it on some man’s misinterpreting where Jesus said, this generation shall not pass away till all be fulfilled.
He said, there be some standing here which shall see the kingdom come.
So it came on the Day of Pentecost.
But.
Does this do away with the promise that this same Jesus will come again, in like manner as you see him go?  Of course NOT.

But they do not study enough Scripture to rightly divide it and see what he truly meant,…about this GENERATION.

So for any here who might want the real truth, read this:
Psalm 22: 28 For the kingdom is the LORD’S: and he is the governor among the nations.
 
29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship : all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul.
 

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A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a
generation.
 
31 They shall come , and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born , that he hath done this.

A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation.
Who or what is that SEED, which is that generation?

Let Paul tell us:
Gal. 3:
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made . He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one,And to thy seed, which is Christ.

One Seed, which is Christ.  We are bone of his bones, flesh of his flesh;  we are his Christ.  Who?  All the true Seed of Christ, the children of Jesus.

We are NOW, that generation, which has not passed away, and will never pass away.  We will abide forever. We are part of that everlasting Covenant.
We are that new Kingdom.
God has also promised to remove all sinners off this entire earth.  Then we will have total peace on the entire earth.  (Isa 14)

I for one cannot see where that has ever been yet…nor will it be unto Satan/Adam, is cast into that lake of fire.

By Jo Smith
Oct 17, 2010

Relationship Between God & Satan

This is one of my answers, on Yahoo. to the above question:

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Relationship between God and Satan…My answers here will seem wrong, because truth of this has been hidden under false doctrines so long…but I have solid proof, in Scripture…so..
Satan is God’s son, Adam. Adam was the anointed cherub (means a glorified being)…having been given power over this world, by God, his father.
He was not satan then. Satan is a descriptive term, same as thief or liar. But this son became lifted up in pride and jealousy and wanted to be God himself.
So he rebelled and drew many angels off to himself. They went with this ‘Absalom’ son. He was the most beautiful creature and the most powerful of those lower than God.

This is in Eze 28. He claimed I am God,..But God said to him, you are just a man. So God cast him out of the Garden because of his wickedness.
Since it was a man who led the world into sin, it also had to be a man to deliver us and bring us back to that ‘cherub’ or glorified stage.

In Job we find that when the sons of God came to present themselves to God, SATAN CAME ALSO AMONG THEM. He was a son of God.

If no one had loved us enough to be a sacrifice, then all would have been lost, as God would not let sinful man back into the garden.

Adam is that old serpent. He is the one who deceived Eve. They did not actually EAT some fruit, as we eat food. It means what they partook of. They were in GRACE to begin with. They fell from Grace, and took up LAW, which requires animal sacrifices, Heb 10
God HATED THIS. He had commanded Adam not to ever do this. God has never wanted or accepted animal sacrifices. It was ADAM who did this thing. He tricked Eve into thinking it was the thing we needed to do, for the old testament was also there, for them to read.
They had the new testament also, but turned to the old. Read 11Cor 3. It shows that reading the old testament BLINDS PEOPLE.

All of these LAW claimers, are under this same delusion, that it takes LAW to serve God. Jesus knew this error and brought us again, back to Grace.

Eve only did what Adam told her to do, which was to kill and sacrifice a pig, to Adam, as god..Isa 65.

They thought they could sanctify themselves this way. but it failed. It cannot do that. Eve saw the wrong and REPENTED and turned back to the true God.
Adam never repented. He is the devil.

The answers going before had no logic, for they were all wrong. Truth is very simple and clear. This is the truth of the matter.
Eve was persecuted for her serving the true God in Grace. Abel was killed for the same reason.

Abel did not kill any sheep. Cain is the one who offered animal sacrifices, which God hates. Abel offered people to God, whom he had taught and brought into serving the true God.

Abel presented his body a LIVING SACRIFICE, which is the only acceptable one with God.

Jesus was paying the sin debt, that is why he died for us. Without Eve, and her return to the true God, there would be no humankind. Without her prayers for her seed not to be destroyed in the flood, no one would exist today.  All of this is solidly proven in written Scripture, not made up junk. Of course it is too much to write here. Jesus Christ is HER SEED.

By: Jo Smith
Oct. 13, 2010

How To Stop Sinning

One of my Yahoo answers:

I will tell you the secret to loving righteousness and HATING sin and iniquity. it is the ONLY way possible and it is a message which this world, today, rejects and hates. But it is the only way.

Go back to Acts 2. This is the only way to true salvation, regardless of how many carnal churches deny it and claim all you have to do is say you believe and ask forgiveness.

God DOES not forgive until there is genuine REPENTANCE, which means making up your mind to stop sinning. Period. stop.

Reach a point you hate the sin and how it makes you feel under condemnation. Do a final repenting. BUT…that is not the end of the matter.
Now here comes the part most people hate and put me down for:
You absolutely must seek God to be filled with the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, according to Acts 2. (obeying Acts 2:38 is a must).

Until you are filled with the Holy Ghost, (and this DOES NOT come with just repenting or saying I believe and forgive me. THAT IS NOT receiving the Holy Ghost. )
Read Acts 19…the same Paul who said believe and you shall be saved, also said, have you received the HG SINCE YOU BELIEVED>?

HAVE YOU? I SERIOUSLY doubt it for if so, that desire for filth would have left you…leaving you clean and Holy and a desire for Holy things ONLY.
This is what the entire church world today, is missing.

You cannot stop the sinful desires without the infilling of the HG.

By one SPIRIT are we ALL baptized INTO the body of Christ.
There is no other way of getting in there.
No church going; no church membership; or anything else can put you into Christ, EXCEPT that baptism of the HG.

So why do so many refuse this? the lies of the whore church that it was only for back then.
God required it then, and he still requires it. He has never changed and he never will.
As long as there are human flesh people in this world, that will still be the only way into Christ.
god has not changed it one tiny bit. and herein lies the secret as to why most people think they are saved and still a sinner. It is not possible.

 

What Is The New Manner?

This is another of my answers to a Yahoo question, about eating meat:

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People in GRACE may eat anything, for it was cleansed by the blood of Jesus.  Under LAW, is no salvation, for the works of the law are not in faith and bring no salvation.  These are the two trees in the Garden, God’s holy word.  It contains both covenants.  But those who chose to live after the law covenant, will never please God, for it is not of faith.  it brings death.

Notice, that Noah had found GRACE.  This is why his family was spared in the destruction of their age.
Notice, Gen 9:3..Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
This is GRACE.  Nothing unclean. 

See that Jesus said, nothing that enters the mouth and goes into the draught is able to defile a person.  it is what comes out of the mouth, from the heart, which defiles a person.
Paul restated the stand of Grace….we may eat anything.  It is not a sin.

In Grace, there is no sin, for we are not under the law.  where there is no law, there is no sin.  So all who claim to be in Christ, and still sinners are liars and know not god’s truth.

There will always be conflicting things for most people will always cling to the law.  The few who find Grace, are the only ones who will be given eternal life.

Now go back to Peter,,Acts 10:13,  And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter: kill, and EAT.

But Peter said, not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean.
And the voice spoke unto him again, What God hath cleansed, call not thou common.

Now, what is this about?  It is about LAW/Grace.  Peter, being held under the old law, never ate what he considered to be unclean animals.
But what is it really about?  What Jesus said, where the carcass is, there will the EAGLES be gathered together.
Now who are these Eagles?  God’s true people.  Those who can get high into the heavenly revelations, see afar off ,(into the heavenlies).
What is the carcass?   It is fresh ‘kill’ or dressed MEAT.  So God was telling Peter, stop eating that old, rotten carcass of LAW.
Arise, (get up high),  Kill something FRESH.
Eagles catch, and kill what they eat.  It is FRESH.
Vultures do not kill. They only eat on the old, rottening stuff, of times past, before TRUTH was made known.
Peter then knew he had to leave law and come into Grace.  He was told to RISE, means go up higher, away from law to grace.

He had to ‘kill’ or get something fresh to EAT.  law could no longer suffice.  He had to get new revelation and take hold of that.
Someone twisted Scripture here and misquoted the above, and said that Jesus said there vultures will be.  No such thing.
Vultures eat that old LAW MESSAGE, and will die. Eagles eat the new message.
They know trinity is old, rottening mess.  They know that an incarnate god is old rotten mess and will not eat of this false doctrine.

So, in the natural, we may eat anything as long as it is blessed with prayer and thanksgiving.  it has been cleansed by Jesus.  The whole world was cleansed by Jesus, but most returned to the old dead law system and eat old rotten, left over message.

Some refused to come into the new day, of serving God by his Son, Jesus.  they still try to serve only Jehovah.  They refuse the new KILL.  They eat only old manner, which has worms in it.
so do all the churches of today.  They only eat old manner, which is stinking.
Now I know this message is not popular or accepted…but it is the new manner and truth.

By: Jo Smith
Oct 14, 2010

Questions For You

I was just reading in Jeremiah 51.  This came to me but I have not had time to get into it good yet.  What do any of you think….I believe it is showing that Babylon, or Old Jerusalem, (being the same thing)…is OLD TESTAMENT, or Adam/Law.
Therefore, New Jerusalem is New testament, or Grace/Jesus.
One is condemnation and is doomed to destruction, as God brings his wrath against it.  I also think this was done at Calvary, yet to be fulfilled in finality.

Babylon is full of idols,…and we know that OT group was full of idols.
Babylon destroyed all the slain of the earth…at Babylon all the slain of the earth fell.  So it is showing that all who follow that old law covenant, are fallen….wow…this just keeps coming out as I write…Paul said they are FALLEN from Grace, when they go back to law.

So it is true.  Babylon is Old Testament.  It is doomed to death.

there are just the two trees.  It keeps going back to that.  I truly think I could expound on this all night, but right now, I think I am going to get off and go to bed.

By: Jo Smith  Oct 22, 2010

My Serious Thoughts

p.s.  I posted this under another thread, not thinking I should do it as a new thread, not wishing to draw much attention to this…but after reading it, I feel in my spirit that I should post it here, again, so I CAN draw attention to it.
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As I normally never have said anything about politics on my sites, and I have never allowed it, as it is a trouble maker, yet this thing bothers my spirit, so I am breaking that a tad here and saying something.  I know some will not like it, but then that is almost always the case with such things.

I hold this totally as a site to discuss God and his word, yet we live in this world and must seek God’s will in all things.  We do not need to be as sheep led to any slaughter, if we can pray and find God’s protection.

There are many things we cannot know and sometimes it best not to know.  But we need to be enlightened and pray about all things.

I put this here, so as not to draw much attention to it.  Probably it will not even be read.  I did not wish to make a new thread on this. Maybe I should, though.

But here goes:  I find it strange and upsetting as to why our president headed straight to Asia just as soon as the election proved to be unhappy to him.  do any of you feel something is very amiss here?
Why is he so happy there?  Have any of you ever noticed that all the pictures we ever see of him, HERE, he is always frowning, scrawling, and looking mad, angry, fierce, with lips poked out, as though he wishes to destroy us.  He never looks directly to the camera, but always looks away.

It has seemed to me for a long time that he actually hates us; hates America.  I truly feel this deep inside myself.

But I notice that just as soon as he hits Asia, among Muslims, he is all smiles and waves, something I never see him doing here, in America.

I loved President Bush, no matter who speaks ill against that man.  He was a joy to see, ALWAYS.   That man always waved, smiled and looked AT US.
He is a very pleasant man.  All I have ever seen from Obama is an ugly frown and hate look on his face.  It has truly bothered me a long time.  (I think our leader should look pleasant to US, sometimes).
Yet the last picture he did here, before hopping off to his home in Indonesia, was so ugly it looked like his bottom lip was totally turned inside out.  He looked like a spoiled brat, which did not get his way. He was pouting because Republicans gained some votes.  Such CHILDISH BEHAVIOR has no place as a leader of our country!

I am not making this up.  Just go look at all the news done on that day.  it is all over the place. then look at how happy he and his wife are OVER THERE.
If that does not bother you, I say you need to come out of your ‘sleep’, wake up and stop blinding yourself.  SOMETHING IS BAD WRONG.
I feel this strongly in my spirit.  It is not about politics, as you all well know that I do not get involved in that sort of thing.
This is much deeper than that.  I feel it involves our own safety and future lives as “Americans”.

Now if any of you take this to mean that I am just against a black ( or part-black) president, I declare to you that that is not the case.
My spirit warns me, and I have never seen it wrong yet, that there is something bad wrong, in the making and out of control.

I know there are things in the political world which I know nothing about, but it truly seems to me that he ran from something ….to something else… for some bad reason.

I do not trust those people in India and Indonesia.  They are not for Christians.
They are not for Americans.
I tell you, in the name of the Lord, we all need to pray a lot, truly seek God, for something is bad wrong.  I am telling you I feel this very strongly.
I have never felt something like this before.  Pray.  Seek God.  Seek for His protection for us and our families.  Satan is on the loose and very much at work and at the head of these things.

Christians are being deceived into thinking they must accept, love and harmonize with all other religions.  I tell you it is A BIG LIE.
We are to be true to the only true God, and His Son, Jesus Christ and reject all others.

You cannot serve two.  You cannot be faithful to two.  Two cannot walk together except they be agreed.  That is God’s word.
So then, are you agreed with Allah?  Is that the name of your god?  He is not my god.  He is Satan.  That word is not in the KJV as a name of God.
His spirit is not God’s true spirit.  It is satanic.  It will kill us and destroy us unless God protects us and stops their evil agenda.
This is very
SERIOUS.

People pray.  Seek God.  We need his help in this hour.  I feel very strongly that we are being  BETRAYED right now, into the hands of our enemies.

By: Jo Smith  …Nov 9, 2010

Does God Forbid Women?

Here is one of my answers to the question of forbidding women ministers?

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God does NOT forbid this. It is men who have come out from Christ who forbid it. In Christ there is NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE.
That is clearly stated in Scripture.
In Christ there is NEITHER. God does not see any DIFFERENCE.
In Christ there is NO LAW.
In Christ there is total freedom and EQUALITY.

God created Adam and Eve as EQUALS. Only after she let Adam deceive her into going under law, did God tell her what she had brought on herself. It was not God’s way or will. It was Adam and law.

As also saith the LAW. The law is death.

In Christ there is neither male nor female, but we are all ONE.
Anyone who tries to go up some other way than in Christ, is a thief and a robber.

Only thieves and robbers say a woman cannot minister. They rob the women and they rob God of the wonderful female ministers.
Jesus put down the HIGH , (men) and raised up the LOW, (women), thus bringing again the equality which God had at first. This is the only right way.
Those who hear law, will go to their false interpretation of what is being said in the Scripture which they ‘think’ is forbidding women. It is lies of the devil.

Only devils forbid women ministers, for in Christ there is neither male nor female. Those who see a difference, are not in Christ, so are thieves and robbers, headed to hell.

the law was added because of their sins. Moses kept adding more and more law, because of their sins. It was not God’s will or way.
some who answer here never read Scripture, only listen to what other misled folks say.
They have no idea what the HELP MEET means.

It does not mean that Eve was a weaker or helper for Adam. It means she was set to lead the already sinning Adam back to God.
Then the NT freedom came in. Immediately they went right back to LAW. Acts 15. So, when they went back to law, other ‘laws’ were ADDED to them, which is not God’s will or way.
God never intended for anyone to rule over anyone else. He meant for all to be free and equals.
So, they say in 1Cor 11, let the woman be silent, as ALSO SAITH THE ….LAW…
Paul immediately, in the next verse, rebukes this statement, by those men.
Yet no one ever sees this.
Stop lying on God/Jesus/NT salvation. Either women are equals, or there is no salvation.

IN CHRIST THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE.
So all of you who see male/female, are NOT IN CHRIST, TRYING TO GO TO HEAVEN SOME OTHER WAY, OTHER THAN IN CHRIST.
You are thieves and robbers.

Speaking In Tongues

This is an answer I put on Yahoo. when someone asked about is speaking in tongues for the purpose of speaking to those of a different language.  I post this here, as a new topic, so I can link it to my Facebook, since almost everyone is misled about this subject:

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No. Speaking is tongues was NEVER used to speak to someone of another language. It is NOT an earthly language, nor is it for any person. This is false doctrine, because people simply do not read Scripture close enough to ever really see what it IS saying.

They go to when the great crowd was gathered together and heard the message preached. They twist this and say the speaker was speaking in tongues. Not so. No one was in the upper room when the Holy Ghost fell, except 120 people. All of these spoke in tongues, as they were filled with the Holy Ghost.

Not one of those 120 needed any interpretation. They all spoke the same language. It is not that. It was the Spirit bearing witness that He had come into them.
No one else was there. Read Acts 2, if you want the real truth.

Later, AFTER this was noised abroad, (does not say how long this took; could have been a week or more)…but after it was noised abroad, THEN the great crowd came together. This is the group where so many different languages was.
But the speaker was not speaking in tongues. Read it. Nothing here is said about them speaking in tongues. it said all the people HEARD them in their own language.

The speaker could not have been speaking in 20 or so, different languages. He was speaking in his OWN language, but God gave the listeners the understanding of what he said. This was a miracle which only God did… giving the hearers the understanding. It was NOT SPEAKING IN TONGUES, as everyone says.

Now about the gift of tongues: Paul said in 1Cor 14:2, He that speaks in an unknown tongues speaks NOT UNTO MEN, BUT UNTO GOD.

Now that is the whole truth of this. Speaking in tongues is not so a person of a different language can understand what you say. It was never used for that. It is the Holy Ghost speaking through a person, TO GOD. We worship, sing, pray in tongues. It is a most wonderful gift, which the devils hate.

By: Jo Smith 11-11-10

The Bait of Satan

<font size=”4″>Good Morning Group,<br>I know that I have been away for awhile. But I am back and I thought I would give you and update on what I have been doing. My son William is getting ready to go to college. Let us all pray that he is sucessful in his stuidies.<br><br>I am currently reading the book called <strong>”The Bait of Satan Living free from the deadly trap of offense”. By John</strong> <strong>Bevere.</strong> It is a very good book dealing with how Christians become offended by many things and how this effects their calling to be true Christians. He explains many types of offesives that a person may go through.<br><br>I really like the one where he says that people go from church to church looking for a preacher and a church so they can hear what the person wants to hear and not want GOD wants them to hear. God will offend you because GOD wants you to wake up and realize that you are not perfect in your walk with him. That is so true. <br><br>And I believe that is why we see so many different church doctrines and denominations around the world. The message does not change from the Bible. The Bible will correct a person. GOD is pefect and we are not. And if you want to be like Christ, then you must be perfect. And in order to do that we must study the WORD to see how to be perfect. <br><br>Well in one chapter of this book they are talking about a love hate relationship. How many of us have a realtionship where we once loved somebody and then hated them because something happened? How many of is have hated GOD because we did not get what we wanted that we prayed to him for? <br><br>I do in any book that I am reading will look up the scriptural references to follow along with the writers thoughts. And to also see if the writer knows what he is talking about. Sometimes I have found that writers will give scriptural references to a verse and it does not even remotely touch on the writers message that he is talking about. Or because they might just throw in a scriptural reference knowing that a person will not read it anyway…<br><br>The scriptures that the writer referenced in the subject of a love hate relationship is <strong>1 Sam. chapter 16-1 Sam. Chapter 31.</strong>&nbsp; I would encourage everyone to read it. I have read these over and over again. And it is what I have seen in these passages is what I really what to talk about here. <br><br>We will start with 1 Sam. chapter 16 Verse 1.<br><br></font><p><font size=”4″><b>1 Samuel 16:1 (KJV) </b><br><sup><font color=”#000000″>1 </font></sup>And the LORD said unto Samuel, How long wilt thou mourn for Saul, seeing I have rejected him from reigning over Israel? fill thine horn with oil, and go, I will send thee to Jesse the Bethlehemite: for I have provided me a king among his sons. <br></font></p><br><br><font size=”4″>My first thoughts on this verse is why did GOD reject Saul from reigning over Israel? What did he do? In the next chapters I did read where Saul had this obesession with David to persue him and kill him. So maybe Saul was that way from the beginning. I will have to read more about him to nail down who Saul was and why GOD rejected him from reigneing over Israel.<br><br>And there is something that I noticed this morning when reading again this verse. Do you see where GOD HIMSELF called Saul by his name? And also Jesse? It is important to know and see in scripture where GOD calls someone by there name. It means they are special to GOD. So we see here that GOD called Saul and Jesse by their names. He called Abraham by his name, He called Moses. and all the rest of the prophets by their name.<br><br>Now we also read that GOD sent Samuel to Jesse the Bethlehemite.&nbsp; We all know who Jesse is right? We know that Jesus is the root of Jesse.<br><br></font><p><font size=”4″><b>Isaiah 11:10 (KJV) </b><br><sup><font color=”#000000″>10 </font></sup>And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. <br></font></p><br><font size=”4″>And also this verse:<br></font><p><font size=”4″><b>Romans 15:12 (KJV) </b><br><sup><font color=”#000000″>12 </font></sup>And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust. <br></font></p><br><font size=”4″>Who is this speaking about? This is speaking about Jesus. Let me stress this: Jesus is the only one! There is no other man that has walked this earth can come close to the prophecy in scriptures. Jesus is in Gen. to Rev.&nbsp; One just has to open their eyes and read and study the WORD of GOD daily to see it. GOD will open ones eyes to it.<br><br>I can not make you see it. Jesse is also David’s father. And when you read the chapters in first Samuel, I want you to ask yourself have you ever hated someone so bad until you wanted them dead? Yes. Saul wanted David dead for a reason. And you will just have to read the chapters to fully understand what was in Saul’s heart and mind that made him act the way he did towards David. And when you read also. What other person was hated so bad such as David?<br><br>I have written enough this morning. But please continue to read along with me and we uncover why Saul hated David so much and how GOD was in the mist of it all. It is wonderful reading. <br><br>Many people do not read the old testament, because they think it is ONLY for the JEWS. Spare me. It is all about Jesus. And the message is for me and you today also.<br><br>Love Tweety<br><br></font>

Who Kills?

Who kills?  who kills to make others ‘convert’ to their own way of ‘thinking’, or religion?
Think on this.  come to understanding.
CAIN killed Abel.  Why?  Because Abel would not convert to Cain and Adam’s man worship and animal sacrifices.
Abel stayed true to the True and only Living God and served Him by Grace, not animal sacrifices, or the old covenant.
Think on this.  Abel never killed anyone or anything.  People falsely claim that Abel killed a sheep and offered its blood to God.
This is lies of satan.

Who actually killed that animal and offered its blood to God?  Cain.  Who set up law? Adam and Cain.
Law requires animal’s blood to be shed, not God.

God says in several Scriptures that he never required this or had any pleasure in it.

Now go on down in history.  Who has done all the killing over religion?  The CAINS.

The Abels do not kill or hurt anyone or anything.
So any religion or religious leader who kills to force conversion, is Satan or a Cain.

Any and all religions which have killed others in the name of religion are Satan’s army.  they are not of God.

It will continue this way until Jesus sets his kingdom up to rule over this earth. then nothing will hurt of destroy in all his kingdom.  The entire earth will be quiet and at rest. Isa 14.  What a glorious day that will be.

If you read a bit of history, it is a continuous battle, killing, murdering and it never stops.  That is Satan destroying his own land.

It proves all the churches up to our day have been Cains.  They think nothing of killing all who disagree with them.  But God has had mercy and broken some of their wicked power over the earth.  But it still goes on in many places.
Watch the Muslims today.  They are trying to kill any and all who disagree with their false religion.
They are Cains.  Abels never killed anyone at any time.  It proves all these religions, Catholic, Muslim, and most others, have all been serving Satan as their god.

By: Jo Smith~~~~ Nov. 16, 2010

Missionaries of Satan

I have just finished posting a long, long thread, from our old MSN days, in which some Adventist and I had some HOT conversation.  It is long, but a lot, I mean a LOT of good teaching is in it…so it would be good for anyone to read this thread.
Here is the last post from that thread.
I want to post it here, separate from all of that, hoping it will reach some people who will not read that long thread.
This is truth, which the world hates, most people hate, but it is truth and will face you at judgment.

What will you do with God’s proven truth?
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God gave us the HOLY GHOST to lead us, guide us and teach all truth. 

 

You refuse to answer my questions, because they will expose your SATANIC CULT as the anti-Christ junk that it is.

 

You will pay for all the ones you help lead astray, if any are stupid enough to deny NT Salvation for your cultist junk.

 

If that old law sabbath is the TRUE REST OF GOD,  what is the OTHER DAY GOD SPOKE OF IN HEB. 4?

 

KNOW YOU WILL NOT ANSWER, FOR YOU CAN’T.

 

I posted this on another thread, but will post it here also, as I don’t think you read other threads……as you are only concerned with strowing your false law dead religion.

 

Important message!

 

Anyone who teaches that NT Christians must go back under the dead old law covenant, is the enemy of your soul,  of Grace, of the kingdom of Christ and anti-Christ, denying the Blood of Jesus, doing despite to the Spirit of Grace,  and they are

MISSIONARIES OF SATAN.

 

I have never heard this term before.  I did not copy it from anyone anywhere.  God gave it to me today.

 

So I will call them this from now on — MISSIONARIES OF SATAN.  And that is exactly what they are.

 

All those people who claim that we must return to old Jewish things, and a fake, false name for our Saviour,  instead of  JESUS CHRIST,  is  MISSIONARIES OF SATAN.

 

Satan taught them, gave them his spirit, and sent them out to tear down the faith of as many people as they can reach.  And they are reaching and tearing down millions of people, because they did not have solid FAITH in the ENGLISH KJV.

 

Their main tactic is to ATTACK THIS HOLY BOOK OF GOD.  They try to make us all think that God did not know English, or care enough , or have the power to KEEP HIS WORD PURE AN  GIVE IT TO THE WORLD, IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE.

 

All who try to say we must learn or study old Hebrew  and old Jewish  traditions and customs, in order to understand the Scriptures,  ARE MINISTERS OF SATAN;  MISSIONARIES OF SATAN.  WORSHIPPERS OF SATAN.  SEEKING TO DESTROY YOUR SOUL AND TO TEAR JESUS CHRIST OUT OF EXISTENCE.

 

Now these are true words, from God.  so go believe the lies of Satan’s missionaries, if you wish;  hate me if you wish;  but all of these things will take you straight to a devil’s hell fire.

 

Jo Smith,  missionary for Jesus Christ.

Law or Grace

This is one of my answers on Yahoo,…when a man asked, does his wife have the right to make him a sandwich.  He thinks women are to be beaten into submission.  Is this of God, or Satan?  Here is the truth:

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My husband used to love to make me good sandwiches. He was very good at it also. Then my other husband, Jesus, set up the lowly, (WOMEN) AND BROUGHT DOWN THE HIGH, (self-centered men.)
Glory to God, Jesus gave me back the original RIGHTS which God gave to Mother Eve, in the first place, that of LEADING THE MAN….exactly what help meet..means. God gave back what God gave in the first place, and MEN took away. meaning Adam.
You know nothing.

I would gladly make my husband a sandwich, for he made me so many. That , my dear, is LOVE, something you apparently know nothing about.

Edit: God has moved on me to show you more of this great truth, which most of the world is missing. Law, is the enemy. God himself hates law. See, by law, men rule over their wives, to their own hurt. It is not of God.
Law and hate are together. See, by law, when one does bad, they are stoned to death…no forgiveness = no grace = no salvation.
Under the old covenant of law, people were BEATEN into submission….but it was not of God. He hated it, but showed the world what law is like. Obey or be killed.

The message of both law and grace are in the entire word of God, from Genesis to Revelation.
When men think they are to rule, especially to BEAT THEIR wives into SUBMISSION, they are of Satan, and living by LAW.
By this law is no salvation, for it is not of faith, or LOVE.
When women think they must be in submission, they have already been BEATEN.
But so has the man, for only in Grace, or EQUALITY, is any love or salvation.

Law is not in Christ. Grace is in Christ. In Christ is no male or female, but we are all ONE OR EQUALS.

We do what we do by LOVE, NOT LAW. When men say their wives must be in submission, they are using LAW. They do not want a WIFE, but a SLAVE.

It is not ‘RIGHTS’. It is Grace for everyone. Only in Grace is any salvation, so all men who wish to RULE are lost and headed to hell.
Jesus does not beat anyone into submission. He is the perfect example. Only by LAW are women told to be silent. In grace they are ONE, or equals, so both minister. in Christ there is NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE.

So you who see female, beaten into submission are of Satan/law/Adam, lost.
You can’t conceive or equals, so you know not Jesus Christ.

By: Jo Smith .. 11/12/2010

Shall The Women Speak

1Samuel 2: 1 And Hannah prayed , and said , My heart rejoiceth in the LORD, mine horn is exalted in the LORD: my mouth is enlarged over mine enemies ; because I rejoice in thy salvation.
2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
3 Talk no more so exceeding proudly; let not arrogancy come out of your mouth: for the LORD is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed .(this is to men, the enemy).
4 The bows of the mighty men are broken, and they that stumbled are girded with strength. (women were girded with strength).

5 They that were full have hired out themselves for bread; and they that were hungry ceased : so that the barren hath born seven; and she that hath many children is waxed feeble .
6 The LORD killeth , and maketh alive : he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up .
7 The LORD maketh poor , and maketh rich : he bringeth low , and lifteth up .
8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD’S, and he hath set the world upon them.
9 He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail .

10 The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces ; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the LORD shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed.

Know who is speaking in the above verses?  A WOMAN.  Yes, it is Hannah, Samuel’s mother.
She is prophesying.  It is her prayer, but it is prophesy in God’s word.
So what?
She said, my mouth is enlarged over mine enemies ; because I rejoice in thy salvation.

So what is this?  Her MOUTH or ability to SPEAK is enlarged over her enemies.
So who are her enemies?  Those who try to cut HER, (daughters of God) , out of OUR rightful place as SPEAKERS of God’s word.
Who is it?  Those MEN who say,, let the woman keep silent, as also SAITH THE LAW.

She is rejoicing in God’s salvation.  So this is NT salvation, through Jesus Christ = grace.
In Christ there is neither male nor female.  So in Christ, it is the Holy Ghost speaking in us, be it men or women.
But in this case, her mouth IS ENLARGED over her enemies.

She is set up on high, by Jesus himself.  She now has been set to lead, again, as was the Mother of all living, Eve.
When WE, women, rejoice in God’s salvation, (NT Grace), our mouth is actually enlarged over the enemies who say, be quiet.  You are not permitted to speak.

YES,  WE ARE.  This is exactly what Hannah’s prophesy here is all about.
Jesus put down the high, and lifted up those of low estate = women.
Hannah’s words are written in Scripture, therefore she spoke the words of God, back then, for she was of the NT salvation.

Glory to God for this wonderful revelation.

By: Jo Smith … Dec. 9, 2010

Sure Word of Prophecy

From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 (Original Message) Sent: 7/31/2006 9:30 PM
Do you have a sure Word of Prophecy? By: Jo Smith— July 31, 2006

2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

People of God, do you have a SURE Word of Prophecy? Or do you have something you know you cannot trust, because you have been deluded into believing that there is no ‘SURE WORD’ of prophecy for us today? Do you in fact, believe that your Holy Book, the Scripture, is full of contradictions? If so, then you must rely upon the men of today, who think they are smart enough, to wade through millions of pages of this and that book, which was also written by other men, to try and discern out what is truth and what is not as it should be.

So then, you come up trusting the polluted minds of men to day, to try and sort out what has been changed, added in, taken out, and twisted up in what we call the Word of God.

Each man then comes up with a different tale, a different ‘mistranslation’, a different error, a different way of interpreting the Word. So whose word do you end up believing? Now you are thoroughly confused. Now you end up calling the Word of God a lie! Do you dare? If so, then how will you find eternal life? The SURE WORD of prophecy, God’s Holy word, (which one?)– tells us that it is necessary to BELIEVE the TRUTH, and to love the truth to be saved. If we believe a lie, we will be damned. So then, who do you believe? God— or the men today who tell us there is no SURE WORD OF PROPHECY for us today. God has forgotten us today. God did not look out for His word, to give us a sure word of prophecy. God lost his power to look out for his word, after he first gave it to men, as the Holy Ghost moved on them.

Aw, maybe that is the problem? The Holy Ghost does not exist for us today? After all, they say, the gifts of the Holy Ghost no longer apply to or for us today. We either have no need for them, or maybe God just does not love us enough to give them to us today? Now we are in a real dilemma. —God does not love us enough to day, to give us a SURE WORD of prophecy, nor does he give us those precious gifts of the Spirit, nor does he care enough for us to heal us by prayer……as he did for those of yesterday.

Whose Word do you believe? Whose word do you live by? Is it really God’s Word? After all, if you accept that the Book you read is indeed, full of error, or even one error, and has been so mistranslated as not to even resemble the first Sure Word of prophecy, then we have no idea what is correct and what is lies!

Woe is us! We are now of all men most miserable! God did not give us his sure word. God does not give us the power to cast out devils. God did not give us a pure word to follow. God does not give us the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, so we can experience that wonderful joy unspeakable and full of glory! My, my. Then we must say we have been forsaken of our God.

Did God go to sleep? Did God lose his power to watch over his word? Did God allow men to just pollute his word and distort it beyond recognition? Did God allow men to mangle, tangle, twist and mistranslate His Word until men today must spend every waking minute, pouring through many manuals, concordances, lexicons, dictionaries, Hebrew, Greek, and many other language study guides, and any other worthy books they can find, to sort out the mess and tell us what was supposed to be in our Scripture! Help!

Run, run for your life! Do you desire eternal life? Then you had better quit listening to these wolves who are out to devour all sheep and make a lot of money and a big name for themselves. You had better start praying sincerely to God, to give you the faith which was once delivered to the saints of God. You had better take the Word of God as He gave it to us and study it and it alone, and pray for his truth to come to you. Find the answers in the Scriptures. That is the only place the truth is. The more you mess with it, the more you disbelieve it, or call it something other than TRUTH, the further into hell you drift.

When you read or study the Word, you need to study with one thought in mind, and that is to seek and find the truth. When you read the Word to try and find the errors you ‘think’ are in it, you will absolutely NEVER find any truth. The more you seek errors, mistranslations, and other mess, the more ‘errors’ you will see. The more you mock God, claiming He could not keep His word pure, after He first gave it, the further into hell you drift. Why would you desire a word which is untrustworthy? Why would you serve a God who is not capable of giving us today a sure word of prophecy? Why trust a God who gave healing, gifts, Holy Ghost, and then took it all back and left us with only a dry, dead boring religion? They say the perfect came, and all the glory left us. So then what was that ‘perfect’ thing which came and took away the gifts of the Spirit and left us without a God who can meet our every need? I want to know! You smart people, tell me! What did you get in exchange for the glory? How is it your minds can outdo God? Why are you fighting God? Why do you hate the truth, the gifts of the Spirit, and the Baptism of the Holy Ghost?

Why are you not content with your own distrust of God’s Word, and stop trying to lead other souls into your dark dungeon of unbelief? Why are men so incensed against the Word of God today? Why are they so incensed against the precious name of Jesus? Why? Because God told us this: 2Tim 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2ti 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 2ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 2ti 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

2Tim3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 2ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 2ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

See, these men who claim to ‘know so much’ that they must go through God’s Word and take out the error and tell us what it is supposed to say (according to their polluted minds), are so proud and lifted up in pride that they claim they know more than God. They are ever learning something, but they never come to the knowledge of TRUTH. When one calls God (His Word) a lie, they are full of all evil and mischievous deception of the devil. Are you not afraid to trust your belief and your eternal life into their hands? Are you allowing these wolves to direct your thoughts and lead you into disbelieving God? Sure you are! When you accept their lies and call the KJV Word of God a lie, then you are setting yourself up to know more than God. And if you think that is NOT the word of God, then pray tell, WHAT IS? What do you trust? Where is any SURE WORD OF PROPHECY FOR US TODAY?

Editorial

Register:11/15/2008 7:00 PM
Date Posted:12/19/2011 1:47 AM

From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 (Original Message) Sent: 12/23/2005
~~ EDITORAL, BY JO SMITH ~~

A really GREAT thing is happening in our world……America has been ‘over-run’ with all kinds of ‘foreigners’ or all kinds of false religions…..Americans are being told to ‘shut-up’ everything about Jesus, for this ‘OFFENDS’ those of idol worship. those who brought their ‘devil’ gods over here, are being set up over us and our children……we are being told we cannot speak of the things of our True God because it ‘OFFENDS’ those other ‘religions’.

they even go so far as to use our very own Jesus’ words……”do unto others good”…..to say we should NOT offend these little devil-worshippers….by speaking anything of Jesus………yes………this is very true.

Have any of you noticed? If not……WAKE UP AND LISTEN.

I was told not to post to Gabo using my signature, for it says. ‘Trust in Jesus’….for this might offend Muslims and others who might be members…..so Jesus is NOT welcome there for there may be some members who love the devil instead of Jesus…..now mind you, that was an American telling me that! IT STINKS.

So I no longer post if I see any interesting birds…..for where Jesus is not welcome, Jo will not go either…

Now I looked at a web site last night which uses this….ce…..instead of AD. [this is the year 2005, ce….not 2005AD. …..why? because using after our Lord will OFFEND those who love Budda, Satan, Santa…..Muslims…..etc. So now We cannot use BC and AD….we must use bce and ce…….to replace any terms using our Lord’s name……for Jesus said ‘do unto others’……sound like puke to you? It sure is to me.

Now this web site claims to be trying to teach us all RELIGIOUS TOLORANCE for other religions……I …..FOR ONE….DO NOT HAVE ANY TOLORNACE FOR ANY OTHER RELIGION…….I. FOR ONE….DO NOT RESPECT BUDDA….STARLIN….MOHAMMED……SATAN…

OR ANY OTHER DEVIL WORSHIP….SUCH AS CHRISTMAS……WHICH HAS NOW COME UNDER THE Very SAME ATTACK!!

(TO ME THAT ONE IS GREAT) just think….now they are all working to take the ‘Christ’ out of their devil-worship holiday……..for they KNOW all other religions do this same evil thing……so they must not offend the Buddha’s, the Muslims…..the devil worshippers….isn’t that wonderful? Now God may be moving to take any false reference to Jesus out of this evil, devil-worship day. now they are all saying ”happy holidays” not merry Christmas.

Wonder how this fake church-world will justify continuing in this evil mess any longer?

how will they say to themselves, this is for our Lord? How?

Larry, isn’t this great!!!!!!! glory! More power to them. Go ahead! prove to this whore church that Jesus was NEVER IN IT!!

JO SMITH TAKES HER STAND AGAINST THIS EVIL. Jesus was never in it! and He will defend his own honour. His true children know better…..we know not to be entangled with this evil. It was never commanded by God to celebrate the birthday of his son. In fact He vanished that day out of existence. Job three.

Now do not any of you say 2005ad ….any more…you must submit to those heathens who have over-run America and say 2005ce. {common era] not after our LORD.

bce = before the common era…..not before Christ…….for this OFFENDS THE MOSULIMS…….THE BUDDIST…….ETC. I say AWAY WITH THEM. WHY SHOULD OR WOULD AMERICAN BELIEVERS IN JESUS, WHO DIED FOR US,,,,,,,SUBMIT AND BOW UNDER THOSE JESUS-HATERS?

DO YOU WISH TO HAVE SALVATION? WILL BUDDA OR MOHAMMED GIVE IT TO YOU?

How long halt you between two opinions? Either take a stand solidly for Jesus and truth, or stand up for Satan with the rest of America and the world.

Either make the ‘tree’ good and his fruit good, or make the tree corrupt and his fruit corrupt.

REPENT BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE…..and all you devil-worshippers land in hell fire together. ……then who will wish you ‘merry Christmas”?

By: Jo Smith

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Wow. Tweety, thank you for saving and reposting these great messages. I have totally forgotten these great messages which God moved on me to write.
He surely moved on you to save them, at the time MSN was closing us out. God bless you. It was great to read this again. It is fresh tonight and just as much needed as then.

Love to you,
JO

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Book of Enoch

Good Evening Freeborn,

I just thought I would put this on here so me and you can start discussing the Book of Enoch. Because some things are very interesting to me..
 
We will only discuss BOOK 1. Because I have not fully read the 2nd or 3rd Book.
 
The first thing I want to post is a very good question for atheists to answer. I wonder if they can answer what Enoch said about this, can they provide an answer: BET NOT.
 

[Chapter 2]

1 Observe ye everything that takes place in the heaven, how they do not change their orbits, and the luminaries which are in the heaven, how they all rise and set in order each in its season, and 2 transgress not against their appointed order. Behold ye the earth, and give heed to the things which take place upon it from first to last, how steadfast they are, how none of the things upon earth 3 change, but all the works of God appear to you. Behold the summer and the winter, how the whole earth is filled with water, and clouds and dew and rain lie upon it.

See Enoch, not man knew the answers to all of the above.. GOD did it! No one can explain it. And if they did try to explain it, it would sound so far out, we could laugh for generations about it. But they do try…We atleast have to give them that. Who appointed the order of the stars and the moon? GOD! Man can not say that they did that. Only GOD did it.. 

Ok. Another thing that I wanted to talk about is this. 

[Chapter 3]

Observe and see how (in the winter) all the trees seem as though they had withered and shed all their leaves, except fourteen trees, which do not lose their foliage but retain the old foliage from two to three years till the new comes.

What fourteen trees? What kinds of trees do NOT lose their foliage in the winter, but retain it for 2 to 3 years and get new ones? I would sure like to know the answer to that. 

Well, I guess I should search about trees..And see which ones are like the ones that Enoch is talking about. If you can think of any of them, please let me know..

Tweety

 

Lot and His Two Daughters

<span style=”font-size: large;”>Good Morning Freeborn,</span><div><span style=”font-size: large;”>I just thought I would like to discuss this, many people say that the stories of the Bible are sexual in nature and GOD would not do something like that… But what they do not understand is that they were punished for what they did. But not LOT. And I wondered why. Maybe because he did not know of what was being done to him. And did not suffer the punishment of GOD. Well let us look at the whole story:</span></div><div><span style=”font-size: large;”><br></span></div><div><p><span style=”font-size: large;”><b>Genesis 19:30-38 (KJV) </b><br><sup><font color=”#000000″>30 </font></sup>And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”><sup><font color=”#000000″>31 </font></sup>And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father <i>is</i> old, and <i>there is</i> not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>&nbsp;<br><sup><font color=”#000000″>32 </font></sup>Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>33 </font></sup>And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>34 </font></sup>And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, <i>and</i> lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>35 </font></sup>And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>36 </font></sup>Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>37 </font></sup>And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same <i>is</i> the father of the Moabites unto this day. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>38 </font></sup>And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same <i>is</i> the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.&nbsp;<br></span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”><br></span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>Well, I know what Lot’s problem was. If we look back over in <span style=”font-weight: bold;”>Genesis 19:7</span> we see where the angel had told LOT before to escape to the mountain, but he was slow in obeying the command of the angel. That may mean something. What if GOD told you to do something, and you did it when you felt like it. When GOD says GO! You GO! You do not linger until the last minute. And people are like that now. They linger. Wait until the last minute..</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>Ok, now on to those two daughters, and their sinful act:</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”><br></span></p><p></p><p style=”line-height: 14px; “><span style=”font-size: large;”><span style=”font-weight: bold;”><sup><font color=”#000000″ style=”line-height: 12px; “>31&nbsp;</font></sup>And the firstborn said u</span><span style=”font-weight: bold;”>nto the younger, Our father&nbsp;<i>is</i>&nbsp;old, and&nbsp;<i>there is</i>&nbsp;not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:&nbsp;</span></span></p><p style=”line-height: 14px; “><span style=”font-size: large;”><span style=”font-weight: bold;”><sup><font color=”#000000″ style=”line-height: 12px; “>32&nbsp;</font></sup>Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father</span>.</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>See the people of Zoar where going to be&nbsp;destroyed&nbsp;along with Sodom for&nbsp;Homosexuality&nbsp;by GOD. So they did not want to have kids by perverted men that were soon to be&nbsp;destroyed…Only if they knew that they were doing alot worse in the site of GOD..</span></p><p style=”line-height: 14px; “><span style=”font-size: large;”>Now they laid with their father and they both got pregnant. Now the firstborn daughter had a son, and he was named: <span style=”font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;”>MOAB</span>. The name in Hebrew means: From my Father. And Moab is the father of the Moabites.&nbsp;</span></p><p style=”line-height: 14px; “><span style=”font-size: large;”>And the son of the younger daughter was named: <span style=”font-weight: bold; text-decoration: underline;”>Benammi</span>, which in Hebrew means: Son of my People. And if we look at Hosea 2:1-23, which states:&nbsp;</span></p><p style=”line-height: 14px; “></p><p></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”><b>Hosea 2:1-23 (KJV) </b><br><sup><font color=”#000000″>1 </font></sup>Say ye unto your brethren, Ammi; and to your sisters, Ruhamah. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>2 </font></sup>Plead with your mother, plead: for she <i>is</i> not my wife, neither <i>am</i> I her husband: let her therefore put away her whoredoms out of her sight, and her adulteries from between her breasts; <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>3 </font></sup>Lest I strip her naked, and set her as in the day that she was born, and make her as a wilderness, and set her like a dry land, and slay her with thirst. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>4 </font></sup>And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they <i>be</i> the children of whoredoms. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>5 </font></sup>For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said, I will go after my lovers, that give <i>me</i> my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>6 </font></sup>Therefore, behold, I will hedge up thy way with thorns, and make a wall, that she shall not find her paths. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>7 </font></sup>And she shall follow after her lovers, but she shall not overtake them; and she shall seek them, but shall not find <i>them</i>: then shall she say, I will go and return to my first husband; for then <i>was it</i> better with me than now. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>8 </font></sup>For she did not know that I gave her corn, and wine, and oil, and multiplied her silver and gold, <i>which</i> they prepared for Baal. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>9 </font></sup>Therefore will I return, and take away my corn in the time thereof, and my wine in the season thereof, and will recover my wool and my flax <i>given</i> to cover her nakedness. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>10 </font></sup>And now will I discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers, and none shall deliver her out of mine hand. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>11 </font></sup>I will also cause all her mirth to cease, her feast days, her new moons, and her sabbaths, and all her solemn feasts. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>12 </font></sup>And I will destroy her vines and her fig trees, whereof she hath said, These <i>are</i> my rewards that my lovers have given me: and I will make them a forest, and the beasts of the field shall eat them. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>13 </font></sup>And I will visit upon her the days of Baalim, wherein she burned incense to them, and she decked herself with her earrings and her jewels, and she went after her lovers, and forgat me, saith the LORD. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>14 </font></sup>Therefore, behold, I will allure her, and bring her into the wilderness, and speak comfortably unto her. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>15 </font></sup>And I will give her her vineyards from thence, and the valley of Achor for a door of hope: and she shall sing there, as in the days of her youth, and as in the day when she came up out of the land of Egypt. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>16 </font></sup>And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, <i>that</i> thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>17 </font></sup>For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>18 </font></sup>And in that day will I make a covenant for them with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven, and <i>with</i> the creeping things of the ground: and I will break the bow and the sword and the battle out of the earth, and will make them to lie down safely. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>19 </font></sup>And I will betroth thee unto me for ever; yea, I will betroth thee unto me in righteousness, and in judgment, and in lovingkindness, and in mercies. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>20 </font></sup>I will even betroth thee unto me in faithfulness: and thou shalt know the LORD. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>21 </font></sup>And it shall come to pass in that day, I will hear, saith the LORD, I will hear the heavens, and they shall hear the earth; <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>22 </font></sup>And the earth shall hear the corn, and the wine, and the oil; and they shall hear Jezreel. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>23 </font></sup>And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to <i>them which were</i> not my people, Thou <i>art</i> my people; and they shall say, <i>Thou art</i> my God.&nbsp;<br></span></p><p></p><p></p><p style=”line-height: 14px; “><span style=”font-size: large;”>Now eevryone thinks that these two sons escaped GOD’s wrath.</span></p><p style=”line-height: 14px; “><span style=”font-size: large;”>But let us see what happened to the 2 sons.</span></p><p style=”line-height: 14px; “><span style=”font-size: large;”>Moab was cursed by GOD, except RUTH. Again a women. Because she carried the righteous seed of EVE.</span></p><p style=”line-height: 14px; “></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”><b>Deuteronomy 23:2-3 (KJV) </b><br><sup><font color=”#000000″>2 </font></sup>A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. <br><sup><font color=”#000000″>3 </font></sup>An Ammonite or<span style=”font-weight: bold;”> Moabite</span> shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:&nbsp;<br></span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>I do believe that GOD raged war against the MOABITES: You can read about it in these verses:</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>(<a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiPh5KrbePULQA==”>Num. 22</a> — <a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiPC8l1Hpnawjw==”>Num. 24</a>; <a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiPNCOMMLmaEKZEnH964mQG9″>Dt. 2:9</a>,<a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiPNCOMMLmaEKTEX6JtTDDJ8″>19</a&gt;; <a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiPtMDuSLF7czA==”>Judg. 3</a>,<a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiNR0K/B2eQrOA==”>11</a&gt;; <a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiOde1AfCzs7NA==”>1Sam. 11</a>; <a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiP/2K7Dd5AcEg==”>2Sam. 8</a>,<a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiNon3E8x5rHeg==”>10</a&gt;),.</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>And to show that they were both cursed one can read the following verses:</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>(<a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiN$$jrT5VZSgADMII8hziyB”>Dt. 23:3</a>; <a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiPybXeV4kbkYDbcYOIrlz6k”>Neh. 13:1</a>,<a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiPybXeV4kbkYGwlLaMRrDxe”>23-25</a&gt;; <a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiPgIII3RyrcKS6lCzl4qtkZ”>Isa. 11:14</a>; <a href=”http://forum3.aimoo.com/url.cfm?link=hGK5BCELZo0rufGA5MOF74z6vBtexYfotZy4JAfUAiP33QvNR3wtCA==”>Zeph. 2</a>).&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>I just felt that I should clear this up for some that come and read here and have misconceptions about it. Lot had found grace in GOD’s sight. That is why he was spared…And also he did not know when the 2 daughters came to him.</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>Have a Blessed Day.</span></p><p><span style=”font-size: large;”>Tweety</span></p><p></p><p><br></p><p></p><p></p><p></p></div>