Build On The True Foundation

From: Isaiah (Original Message) Sent: 7/9/2003 3:26 PM
The Crucifixion of Christ

Golgotha- The place of the skull–Just outside of Herods wall– its sad while walking into the city, you would see the place of execution or someone be executed. ‘The sight of this sent a message to anyone who resisted, this could happen to them’

The Last Evening– Jesus at the Last Supper– Judas goes off to betray and later Jesus is found in the garden. Imagine a place where lit houses and darkened streets that Jesus would be led past to his crucifixion.

Gethsemane– The Olive Yard– At the foot of Mt Olives–Here possibly freshly plowed ground where they had been tending the olive trees, the fragrance of flowers all around, Kinda like the garden of Eden or place of beauty. The place to rest or relax, but not for Jesus. Jesus goes to the garden to pray (Isaiah 53:3-7) (John 19:17) While Jesus being under great stress, at the garden, all leads up to so great an anguish that his sweat becomes great drops of blood. What happens here is called “Hemathydroses” Around the sweat glands there are multiple blood vessels in a net like form….The blood vessels, under the pressure of great stress, constrict…until anxiety is replaces with resignation. The reversal occurred, the vessels dilated and the sweat became blood. They rupture.

Now while Jesus was praying in the garden, Judas betrays him and they’re already angered because their teachings have been challenged. So for 30 pieces of silver he is sold out… What have we sold him out for? Fame, hobbies, houses, lands, habits or what?

The fluid loss in the garden from intense sweating and the loss of blood (Keep this in mind) Pain is in the mind…..if it hurts your hand, foot, tooth, or wherever it is, it hurts all over. (Meaning you are suffering) Biochemical changes in the body due to emotional factors, there is pain.

So with torches and lanterns they go after Jesus. Judas betrays him with a kiss, as if to say I love you. People hear the rustle of soldiers and armour clinking, but this goes on all the time right? Seems nothing to be concerned about.

So Jesus is arrested and kept up all night, taken from place to place. The crowd enlarges and begins to taunt, mock, yell, and scream at him. The anger and fear of the Sanheadrons was magnified by their wealth and influence, they had a lot to lose.

(Their festivals and big to dos) ‘Many don’t don’t go to church today because of this very reason.’

Jesus has been betrayed, accused, arrested, and charged with blasphemy and sentenced to die. His condition begins to get worse. He hasn’t eaten or had rest, sleep, nor anything to drink, since the last supper. The loss of blood, or ” hydrosis”, has affected him profoundly.

Bound and under guard, Jesus was taken to Pilate and was whipped with a whip that had possibly metal, glass, or some type of object that took hunks of meat with every whip. Arms, legs, back, head, face, torso……. with blood spraying all over…..hunks of meat being ripped away from the bone. It is said by some, that it was so severe, that you could probably hear the air going in and out of his lungs because of the lack of flesh on his back. On top of this they spit, slapped, and cursed him. They put a crown of thorns upon his head. They stripped him of his raiment to further humiliate him, seemingly to give him no way of defense.

More fluid loss, sweating, and bleeding…….across the chest area the call it “plorefusion” or fluid build up around the lungs. When ever you lose fluids or blood, the body goes in to shock. The blood pressure goes down and heart rate increases. Stress and fatigue increase the sensitivity of the pain. Across his now raw and bleeding back, the soldiers drape a rough cloth across his back (Purple robe).

Due to the nerves across his head, “trinemanel” and “oxsipatal” nerves, where the crown of thorns were…over time the pain can be unbearable. Even through all of this its not enough for the crowd. So Jesus is handed over to be crucified. After pulling off the half dry and half blood soaked cloth, they put the rough tember called the cross upon him. (John 19:17- And he bearing his cross went forth unto a place called the place of a skull…)

The rough tember, ripping, and splintering his back, is very heavy, and is laid upon his back and shoulders. The body of Christ is now in the state of shock, from his brutal beating, sweating, and profuse loss of blood. Fluid accumulating around the lungs, “plurlafution” a state of shock.Jesus falls under the weight and pain, compounded with fatigue. Simon of Serene is compelled to carry his cross.

They take Jesus to the “place of a skull”, a place where the city discards its trash…..”Human” and otherwise. Orphans died and was discarded, and criminals who nobody cared for, were tossed out to be eaten by rats and dogs. The smell was awful. So bad in fact, that while doing an archilogical dig in the 1890’s , the smell was so bad there that they had to take 10-15 minute periods while others took their place.

Jesus has endured hours of misery, but the worst is yet to come. They nailed him on the cross. The nails were long with big heads and they drove them in to his hands and feet. The nail is driven into the “media nerve” and causes severe burning and like lightening bolt pain, which runs into the spine, from both hands and feet. Some who have certain kind of injuries, have been given lots of morphine, and it would not even phase the pain. Its called, “corsagie”, an injury to the media nerve. Sometimes surgery to the spinal cord is done to take this pain away. Its so severe that if you blow on this injury, it sends extreme pain all over the body, and the patient will scream and scream. When the nail goes in to the foot, it will rupture the “plature nerve”, and the pain would be similiar to that of the hand. The injuries to the body and pain is multiple at this point. With every breath and movement and his head pushing against the crown of thorns. His body, his badly beaten back, arms, legs, the media and planure nerve irritation, the cramping, the joint pain, the intense thirst, the body going through horrible pain.

Ofen while on the cross the victim lingers for days. But in the case of Jesus its a matter of hours. Many changes in the body are taking place. The stomach stops functioning, the heart will beat more rapidly until failure, the lips will protrude from the mouth, the tongue would stick to the roof of the mouth as it swells. The blood flow to the muscles is not enough to meet the demands of the body. Not enough air in the lungs, the heaving, gasping, gurgling………The blood pressure drops, the increased heartrate, until the body says…”STOP” The fluid build up around the heart, when they pierced him in the side, and forthwith came blood and water.

The body went in to 3 kinds of shock. (1) Hypobolamic- loss of blood, fluid volumn. (2) Traumatic –All the injuries inflicted on the body of Christ. (3) Carteogentic–Which is both of these combined together and where the heart fails as a pump.

Crucifixion…A silent testiment to unimaginable human savagery.

Now as we just took a walk through the last hours of Christ, through the biblical and medical view…..hope this will somehow help you to understand the sufferings of Christ for our sins.

Pastor Michael A.

Jesus in Joseph ~

Until you can see Jesus in any and every Scripture, you are missing the full truth and a great revelation. The whole Word of God is about Jesus. A lot of beauty and joy is found when you see Jesus portrayed in the lives of the people in the Word. For truly that which is written of them was written only because of the way that part of their lives were showing or typing Jesus.

I will share some of the beauty here, which God showed me from the life of Joseph.

Beginning in Genesis 37 we will study the life of Joseph only slightly and show how it types Jesus.

Joseph was the first son Jacob had by his beloved wife Rachel. His first wife, Leah who was Rachel’s sister, had already had sons and a daughter. But Rachel was barren. Jacob loved Rachel but not Leah. So God opened Leah’s womb and closed up Rachel’s.

All of these things represent or type spiritual things about Jesus and His Bride. The first wife, Leah represents the first one God dealt with, the O.T. Covenant of law. They brought forth their children first. But these were not the ones Jacob loved most. Finally after seeking God, Rachel was able to have Joseph. Now Jacob was old when Joseph was born. Joseph was Jacob’s favorite son. This types God loving the children of Grace more than the children of law. He said he loved Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob. This means God loved the New Testament Church more than the old law group.

Rachel then birthed Benjamin. She had only two sons, showing the two witnesses or the two anointed Churches. Leah’s children represent the law children. More are the children of the desolate (law) than the children of the married wife = Grace church.

Jacob made Joseph a ‘coat’ of MANY colors. Now this shows that the body of Christ is made up of all nations of people. The fact of Jacob loving Joseph more than the others caused them to hate Joseph and be very jealous of him. So they sought to destroy him. This shows how those Jews hated Jesus and had him destroyed.

Joseph was spiritual and had dreams from God. This added to their jealousy. Joseph dreamed of his brothers and parents having to bow and worship him. When he told this dream, it caused more hatred. So the brothers sold Joseph into slavery. He was carried down into Egypt. This is showing Jesus coming here to this earth as a human being. Egypt types the world and the flesh.

The brothers sold Joseph for 20 pieces of silver. This of course shows Judas selling Jesus for 30 pieces of silver.

Down in Egypt Joseph became a servant to a great man. He was so loved and respected by this man that he gave him control over all he had. This showed how Jesus grew in favor with man and God. God placed Jesus over all that he has.

Then this man’s wife lied about Joseph and had him put into prison. This shows how the Jews lied about Jesus and had him carried before the rulers there at Jerusalem.

Jesus was in a type of prison while here in human flesh as we are also. This body is a prison. But even in prison God was with Joseph and gave him favor with the keeper of the prison so that he turned everyone there over to Joseph. See that God turned everything here over to Jesus.

The king put two of his officers into prison. They were His butler and his baker. These men represent the two thieves on the cross when Jesus was. They both had a dream and told them to Joseph. Joseph interpreted them and told one he would be restored and the other that he would be killed. This shows that one of the thieves was told by Jesus that he would be saved. The other was not.

Joseph told the one who was to be saved to remember him to the King. But the man forgot. The time Joseph spent in prison also represents the time Jesus was in hell. After two full years Pharaoh had a dream which troubled him. Then the butler remembered Joseph and told the king about how he could interpret dreams. So he sent and brought Joseph out of prison.

This represents the resurrection of Jesus. Joseph shaved and changed his raiment. This shows Jesus being changed into immortality at the resurrection, or coming up out of prison = hell.

After Joseph interprets Pharaoh’s dream to him, the king makes Joseph to be the second ruler in his kingdom. This shows God setting Jesus at his own right hand of power and authority.

Everyone is told to bow the knee to Joseph. Of course this shows how God will cause every knee to bow to Jesus. Then Pharaoh gave Joseph an Egyptian wife. This is God giving Jesus his earthly bride. He also gave Joseph a new name, which shows Jesus having a new name. Joseph was 30 years old when he stood before Pharaoh; same age Jesus started his ministry.

When the famine was upon the land Pharaoh told the people they had to go to Joseph and do whatever he told them. This shows we cannot go directly to God; we must go through Jesus. When the famine in the world is for hearing the words of the Lord, we must go to Jesus to be fed. Only those who have the stored up food can feed anyone. Joseph had that stored up food. The whole world at that time had to go to Joseph for food. This shows only in Jesus, the New Covenant can spiritual food be found.

Joseph had two sons before the famine set in. This shows the witnesses of God being anointed before the spiritually starved seven churches set in. They had seven years of plenty in which Joseph stored up enough food to take them through the seven years of famine. The years of plenty were when the Apostles were in power and gave the world the pure Word of God. Then the years of eating down this ‘vine’ set in and the seven churches came in.

Here Joseph and Benjamin represent the two witnesses. Joseph was representing the witness, which came before the seven churches, which was that apostolic church. They had the Word of God and wrote it down or stored it up for us to feed on after the famine set in as those worms ate down Jesus’ vine. Also Joseph’s two sons represent the two witnesses. Let me show you how: Joseph called the name of the firstborn Manasseh: For God, said he, hath made me forget all my toil, and all my father’s house.

See this is showing that in the first witness born at Pentecost made the Israelites forget all the toil of the old law covenant they had been in bondage under. He called his second son Ephraim: For God hath caused me to be fruitful in the land of my affliction. See Jesus was fruitful here in this land of his prison.

But later after Jacob has been down in Egypt and is about to die he places his right hand on the younger son, Ephraim and set him over the firstborn. This shows that the glory of the latter house the second witness shall be greater than the former house. Also shows that the glory of the Grace house is greater than the former law house and that the elder shall serve the younger. This shows Adam, the flesh must serve the second Adam, Christ.

The famine was over the whole earth – this shows that when the seven churches set in they destroyed all the knowledge of the pure Word and took the whole world into darkness. Now the entire world has to go to Joseph to be fed. This means all have to go to the written or stored up word to receive food. You cannot find it in any of the other ‘countries’ = other religions other than the pure Word.

The last of the seven churches is NAKED, BLIND, WRETCHED, MISERABLE, STARVING FOR THE WORD = FAMINE FOR THE WORD. This shows that only the two witnesses have the pure food or corn of the Word. These two witnesses are those two horns on the ram = God’s true Church. It was represented by Peter and Paul.

See that the seven churches in Rev. has those 10 horns. Seven heads; 10 horns. A naked, empty church (7 churches) gone back to the 10 commandments. But they are starving for the Word. Laodicea is naked, lukewarm, spewed out of God’s mouth.

Jacob sends the 10 brothers down to Egypt to buy corn. These 10 brothers are the children of Leah

And the two handmaids. They are the ones in bondage to law. This is the seven heads with the 10 horns = 10 commandments, the law head of the fourth kingdom.

They go to buy, showing the foolish virgins, which is what the law group of people are, the foolish virgins. They are foolish because they cling to law after Grace was given.

The youngest son, Benjamin stays yet with the Father– showing that the second witnesses has not been anointed yet. The seven churches are making their last move of trying to buy corn.

When Joseph saw his brothers he knew them and made himself ‘strange’ to them. See he spoke to them in another TONGUE and by an interpreter. Gen. 42: 23.

This was fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost – Jesus their ‘brother’ made himself strange to that law loving group of people and caused them to not understand because their ruling brother, Peter spoke in another tongue and they could not receive it or understand it. They still do not understand it today. Jesus is still strange to them because of speaking to them in another tongue. See Joseph knew them; but they did not know him. Jesus knows them, but they do not know him for the reject the speaking in tongues by the Holy Ghost. Joseph spoke to them by an interpreter; this is the Holy Ghost. He must interpret it to you.

There is a lot more beautiful revelation in this story of Joseph. But I will cut it short here. I may try to add to this a little later. But this is long now so I will leave some of it out.

Let me finish by saying that after Joseph sees his youngest and only full brother Benjamin, the second anointed witness, he then reveals himself to His Brothers. They have by this time fulfilled his dreams of bowing to him and seeking food from him. He gave their money back, showing we buy without price and without money. The wise virgins, the grace people, do not buy and sell for we know that is the mark of the beast.

I love this story very much. If you desire more beauty study this and look for the way it shows the truth of the New Testament.

I hope you enjoy this study.

By: Jo Smith

Tuesday, April 8, 2003

The Fall of Jesus….. Rise of Christ

Lam. 4: For the sins of her prophets,

and the iniquities of her priests,

that have shed the blood of the just in the midst of her,

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they have wandered as blind men in the streets,

they have polluted themselves with blood,

so that men could not touch their garments.

The blood of Abel cries out to God.  Abel is not just one man;  Abel is a full kingdom.  His blood is still being shed and is still crying out to God.  All who are in the kingdom of Christ, are part of ABEL.  It is God’s true people.  The many babies who have been murdered;  torn apart from the womb’s of their mothers, are in this group.  God  is never going to grant those guilty a chance of repentance.  The blood of those babies is CRYING OUT TO GOD;  it is the midnight cry.  Come quickly, Lord Jesus.  Behold the bridegroom cometh;  go ye OUT to meet him.

Now that is what this message is about.

Abel and Eve are the very beginning of the Kingdom of Christ.  All who will be with the Lord Jesus Christ are part of this kingdom.  Eve is the MOTHER of all LIVING.  So it had to begin with HER, THAT TREE OF LIFE.

It will take a lot of background learning to understand this message.  From Adam to the flood, the people were glorified beings.  They were called the ‘heavens’.  Now the true Christians are called the ‘heavens’.  We are the new heaven.  After the flood, those eight people who crossed over the flood were STILL GLORIFIED people.  The people born after the flood were the first ‘dust-people’.  God had now ‘clothed’ them with those ‘coats of skin’.  It is never the blood or skin of animals.  That is the false teachings of Babylon, or Adam, or old Jerusalem.  This is all one and the same kingdom.  

If Jesus said, Mat 23, that Jerusalem is the guilty one who shed all the righteous blood on earth, beginning with the murder of ABEL, then that ‘jerusalem’ had to be back with Adam and Cain.  The natural Jerusalem, on earth today, is NOT what can tie together, the blood of all shed on earth, from Abel, down to the very last martyr.  So this ‘jerusalem’ which ties it all together till the end of the world, In Rev 18, where Babylon is told, you are guilty of all the blood shed on earth;  the thing which can tie all of this together HAS to be Adam. 

Adam was the HEAD over this beast, mankind.  It was not Cain. Cain was never given dominion over the earth.  Adam was.  So Adam commanded Cain to kill Abel, because Abel was interfering with their ‘traffic’ or bringing people into the bondage of LAW/ ADAM WORSHIP.

This is a lot of background;  but without it, what I am about to show you could make no sense.  After the flood, the children born were THE HEATHEN.  They were different from those who came from the other side of the flood.  They no longer could live nearly a thousand years and keep bearing children.  God changed them.

BUT, the eight glorified beings, which came off that ark, were STILL THERE, among those dust folks.  Later, after they saw the beauty of these dust folks, (the daughters of men), they themselves began to intermarry with these dust people and bear children.  These sons of God, went in unto these ‘daughters’ of men.  All eight people were SONS OF GOD.  All the children born after the flood were daughters of men.

This is why in Christ there is NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE.  We are all FEMALE to God.  We do not have the seed of life in ourselves.  It must be given to us.

The world, after the flood, is a FEMALE WORLD.  The world before the flood was a MALE world.  I cannot take up the space in this message to prove all of this, but if you study my previous messages, the proof is there.  Remember that Jesus said, as the Father has life in himself, so has HE  .. GIVEN… to me…to have life in myself.  Now it is spiritual, BUT the MALE must give the seed of life to the female.  Thus Jesus shows here that he himself was of the FEMALE KINGDOM.

Now, back to Lamentations:  4: 2 The precious sons of Zion,

comparable to fine gold,

how are they esteemed as earthen pitchers,

the work of the hands of the potter!

This is speaking of when God changed them from glorified to dust.  He remembered our frame, that we are just dust, Psm.

v 7,8,/  Her Nazarites were purer than snow,

they were whiter than milk,

they were more ruddy in body than rubies,

their polishing was of sapphire:

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their visage is blacker than a coal;

they are not known in the streets:

their skin cleaveth to their bones;

it is withered, it is become like a stick.

v17-20… As for us, our eyes as yet failed for our vain help:
in our watching we have watched
for a nation that could not save us.

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They hunt our steps, that we cannot go in our streets:
our end is near, our days are fulfilled;
for our end is come.

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Our persecutors are swifter than the eagles of the heaven:
they pursued us upon the mountains,
they laid wait for us in the wilderness.

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The breath of our nostrils,
the anointed of the Lord,
was taken in their pits,
of whom we said,
Under his shadow we shall live among the heathen.

If you can understand the above, you can see the revelation coming from Eze that I am going into.  The OT bondage folks, law folks, were speaking.  Their persecutors were the NT ministers, Jesus, Peter, Paul, etc. 

They went after those law folks and brought them into grace.  That is what this is all about.

Chapter 3 is the crucifixion of Jesus.  Lam 2: 2 How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion

with a cloud in his anger,

and cast down from heaven unto the earth

the beauty of Israel,

and remembered not his footstool

in the day of his anger!

This cloud he covered them with, is the same as the coats of skin = a dust body.  See that he cast down from HEAVEN unto the earth, THE BEAUTY OF ISRAEL.   (This happened at the time of the flood).

This beauty means GLORIFICATION.  Isa 53, speaking of Jesus, when we see him, there is no BEAUTY that we should desire him.

The lie that Mary’s Baby was an incarnate God has hidden all the glorious truth of God from the world.  He was NOT glorified until his resurrection.  That is the RISEN CHRIST, the only begotten son of God. Rom 1: 4.

The Word of God was NOT made into a human baby.  There was no glory until AFTER HE SUFFERED and was raised from the dead. Luke 24.

So, now, let me see if I can get into the message I am wanting to show today.

In order not to make this so extremely long, I will just show some bits and pieces.  But with this understanding of how to ‘read’ these chapters, you can see the truth of it, if you ask God to show you.

Eze 36: 6 Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the LordGod; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the shame of the heathen: 7 therefore thus saith the Lord God; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen that are about you, they shall bear their shame.

The shame of the heathen is this DUST FRAME.  See, the glorified people intermarried with the dust people, and their children became of the DUST, or the shame, or nakedness, of the heathen.

8 But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people of Israel; for they are at hand to come. 9 For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be tilled and sown: 10 and I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded:

When God speaks to these mountains of Israel, it is NOT THE EARTHLY land that men call Israel or Jerusalem.   IT is God’s heavenly people.  They lost their GLORY and became of the dust of the ground.  But watch:  He told them they will come forth again.  This is prophecy for the coming of Jesus, as He SOWED the good seed, or taught the people the TRUTH OF GOD AGAIN.  So after Jesus had tilled and sown the seed into the ground, (people) again, there came forth a people of God again.

11 and I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do better unto you than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

This is speaking of the coming of the baptism of the Holy ghost, when men will again be given the Spirit of God.  The promise is to give us back GLORIFICATION AND MORE THAN ADAM HAD TO BEGIN WITH.

17 Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman. 18 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it: 19 and I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them. 

This speaks both of the people before the flood, but also the OT law folks.  They follow the same example.  God destroyed them for the BLOOD THEY HAD SHED and their IDOLS.  It is the same right today.  The blood of all the babies being killed cries out to God and all your heathen holiday idols are provoking God to ANGER.  Repent, or perish.

25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

V 25 is speaking of the water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins.  No other way is shown in God’s word for taking away the filthiness and idols and the cleansing of your sins.  The new heart and spirit is when he fills you with the Holy Ghost.  So this is about NT salvaton. 

Eze 37:  37 The hand of the Lord was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the Lord, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones, 2 and caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry. 3 And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord God, thou knowest.

4 Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the Lord. 5 Thus saith the Lord God unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live: 6 and I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.

7 So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone. 8 And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them. 9 Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live. 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.

The dry bones are the dust people, without the Holy Ghost.  Prophesy upon these bones and say to them, hear the word of the Lord.  I will breath on you and ye shall life.  It is JESUS who breathed on them and said, receive ye the HOLY Ghost.  This is when and how they became a LIVING SOUL, back to being children of God.  This is when and how God put BREATH in them.

Jesus is the one who prophesied on them….then a great NOISE came from Heaven, and behold a SHAKING, as they were filled with the Holy  Ghost.  Bone came to Bone, many members, yet one BODY.  It is God’s great army of Holy Ghost filled people.  They had been DEAD in trespasses and sins, slain by the sword.  We heard his voice and came ALIVE.

He took of the TWAIN and made ONE NEW MAN.  It is no longer a split of Israel and Gentiles.  It is now the kingdom of Christ.  Jesus FELL;  died and went into hell;  destroying first-man Adam, (the man of sin);  so that the inner CHRIST, the Emmanuel, COULD COME FORTH AND LIVE;  and with him, bringing many other sons to GLORY.  what a glorious message!

1 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14 and shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I   have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

The WHOLE house of Israel is the NEW MAN; neither Jew nor Gentile, but one NEW MAN, united in Christ Jesus.

There is that valley of DRY BONES.  Mankind away from God, from Adam’s fall till the day of Pentecost.

OPEN YOUR GRAVES:  Romans 6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

God forbids that we live in sin any longer.  So now, go on from here;  As we were baptized into Jesus Christ we were baptized INTO HIS DEATH.  We were BURIED with him, (put into our grave) by baptism.  then, the first resurrection, we were raised to walk in newness of life, like unto his resurrection from the dead.  We are now no longer dead in sins, but alive to God through Jesus Christ.

 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.

We receive the first resurrection right here, freed from sin.  Not the message you hear out there, is it?  In fact it is right the opposite.  So let the heirlings bring forth their scripture saying we still sin every day.  It is satan’s message.  We are dead to sin, but alive unto God.  Satan does not like this message.

Back to Exe 37: 5 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying, 16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: 17 and join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

This is showing the joining of the Jews and Gentiles into one Godly nation;  no longer divided.  Woe to all who still see that division and cannot come into this one new man.

It is also showing the bringing back together, those sons of God before the flood and those who come into Christ Jesus now, as the one new heaven and new earth.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd.

This is speaking of Jesus, calling him David, for he is the son of David, according to the flesh. Rom 1:4 and Acts 13.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.28 And the heathen shall know that I the Lord do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.

This covenant of peace is the Grace Covenant.  It is only to the people who obey the pure Gospel according to the book of Acts.  This is the only Book which gives the full plan of salvation. This tabernacle or sanctuary is this united BODY OF CHIRST.  Our body is the TEMPLE OF THE LORD, with Jesus as its head. He is part of the same temple that we are.  We are all to God, his Father.   The carnal minded will never see this glorious truth.

Eze 38: 38 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3 and say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4 and I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: 

Satan, which is that old serpent, which is hypocrite ADAM, comes against God’s people at all times, from the beginning to the end.  On the other side of the flood, this wicked one persecuted the woman who brought forth the manchild , which was Eve.  She is the MOTHER of all LIVING.  Abel was her righteous seed.  So this wicked Adam was also against his own son, Abel.  He, as head over mankind, ordered Cain to kill Abel.  They then persecuted Eve and all who refused this Adam-worship.  Adam took the people under that tree of knowledge of good and evil, which is clearly identified in Romans as being the LAW.  By the law IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN.

The law is bondage.  To till the ground means to bring people under BONDAGE or LAW.  The great persecution of Mother Eve is shown throughout scripture, in many places.  It takes a revelation from God to show it to anyone, but she is there, all over Scripture, as is Adam and Jesus Christ.

Satan/Adam, deceives this whole world.  He is as a roaring lion till the end of time.  BUT…he has to come in the souls of many different men, in different times.  This word of God is always being fulfilled.  It is NOT A ONE TIME AFFAIR, as most people try to say.  You cannot ever get the full truth trying to place any scripture at one certain time and that only.  It is always, past, present and future, until the end.

At the time of Jesus, this evil spirit came into the Pharisees, and the Romans.  Together they murdered Jesus.  This ‘gog’ was in those high priest, the Pharisees  and those Romans who all together murdered Jesus, then the Christians.

The CARNAL MIND is the enmity.   The carnal mind is an enemy of God.  The carnal mind is not subject to the things of God.  The carnal mind is this wicked mind of Adam, turned evil.  It is LAW.  Yes, the law and the carnal mind are one;  they are the enemy.  Jesus nailed this enemy, or law, to his cross, taking it out of the way.  But this HEAD of law was healed by the carnal minded church.

Satan, or this gog spirit comes up in all the times into some wicked man who is totally subject to the satanic spirit.  He then goes to war all over again, against Eve and her righteous seed.  It was at its fullest when they murdered Jesus.  Then of course the war against Christians has never ceased, till this very day.

See that he said the PRINCE of Magog.  This word, Prince, refers to a spirit being.  So this is still the spirit of Adam, being manifested in some man of the day and time in which it is being spoken.

The beast with seven heads, out of the sea, in Rev 13, is that OT law head under Adam.  It warred with Jesus and killed him.  It then warred with the Early Church, murdering those Christians.  The head of this was always JERUSALEM.  Jesus said this.  Mat 23.  So this evil jerusalem spirit of Adam is still at war with the saints of God, till this very day.

Today, in the US of America, we see that head at work again.  It wars in many ways.  Now it is warring in the spirit to get us totally away from righteousness and into the sin which moves God so much to anger:  idolatry and perversion.  The most hideous sin is the murdering of babies, before they can even live.  Their blood is crying out to God for vengeance.  He is going to give it, very soon.

Today we see this Gog spirit called by the name, ALAH.  Yes, this idol god is really satan.  How do I know?  Look at his followers, what they must do to please this satanic god…. he tells them in his book, the Quran to murder and torture all who oppose him and will not bow to him.  This is the same old sin of Adam;  demanding worship;  saying, I am God.

This Gog spirit is being manifested today in many individuals.  They are murdering babies by the millions.  God will come against any land which does this evil.  Now they are setting up homosexuals as equals with man/woman relationship.  This is a sin which moves God to anger and destruction.  So this ‘gog’ spirit is at war in the whole world today, against Christ and his people.

But notice something else is moving in all the world today.  It is evident that the sleeping virgins are waking up.  All of this, the crowning of those ten horns, same as legalizing same-sex marriage, and the selling of baby body parts, is waking many people up around the world.  Some are foolish in that they did not be filled with the Holy ghost, but are counting on a ‘believe-only’ type salvation.  It will not work.

Now something you need to study and learn is that the words, two, ten, twelve, one and thousand, in scripture, does NOT refer to digits or numbers.  It is not 10 virgins.  It is not 1,000 years.  God spoke to me and told me that thousand did not mean a number.  So I asked Him what it means.  Here is the answer.  I looked this word up in the strong’s concordance.  It did not originally mean a digit or number.  It means a TEACHING FAMILY.  It means the mother of this family, hence, Eve.  So from Eve down to this day, those who know and teach the TRUTH, are this thousand.  

In the latter days, it began with John the Baptist.  As John introduced repentance and baptism to the world, he was beginning to TEACH them the truth.  The OT law did not give them TRUTH.  Jesus was the one who brought the truth to this world.  Then his early church and disciples were this TEACHING FAMILY.   As soon as they finished their testimony, this GOG spirit came up in the hypocrite serpents, the pharisees and priests of that law, went to war and killed them.  Then this gog spirit moved into the Roman church and they picked it up and murdered and tortured millions of Christians.

Now today we see this same old murdering spirit all around us.  It is coming from this allah idol of the muslims.  They are taught by this idol god to murder all who refuse to convert to this false religion.  False religion is this harlot against God.  It began with Adam and Cain and is now all over this world.  It is in every church and religion on this earth today.  But it is headed up by this allah.  

So then we see this Gog coming out against all of God’s people from the days of Jesus Christ to now.  When you see them in all sorts of armor, that is the same as in Daniel, when they set up the statue and told them when they hear all sorts of music, to bow to this idol.  It shows all different denominations and religions coming against  our Lord and his Christ.  Jesus died, or fell, and went into hell, to do away with first-man Adam, Humanity against God, and bring up the Christ or the anointed resurrected Son of God, who can never die anymore.  He is now glorified and sitting on the throne of God.

8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them. 9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

The land that is gathered out of many people is the Christians, taken from all peoples of this world.  They are now the Mountain of Israel.  They are now dwelling safely, for Jesus gave them peace and rest.  Then satan comes against them with all his many bands and peoples.  This has been going on since the days of the apostles and is still going on and will continue until the People of Jesus take the kingdom and destroy the sinful kingdom off this earth.

10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought: 11 and thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, 12 to take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

The land of unwalled villages, is the peoples of Jesus Christ who have been delivered from the LAW OF BONDAGE.  We are the ones at rest, for Jesus gave us rest.  This land of Jesus has neither bars or gates for this is of the law.  So satan enters into the people of our day and come upon the gentiles who were desolate but are now the people of God, coming out of all nations.  Satan is coming to take any away, the gold and silver, that will listen to him, let him deceive them and turn from their steadfastness in Christ.  When you run back to the heathen idol holidays, you let Satan have his way in your life.  Unless you turn back to truth, satan has you.  He has taken you PREY.

17 Thus saith the Lord God; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? 18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord God, that my fury shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; 20 so that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord God: every man’s sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the Lord.

The great shaking is when the Holy Ghost fell on the day of Pentecost.  That day they fished for men and took many out of the OT law system and brought them into grace.  Their sword of the word of the Lord took those mountains of OT law down.  God pleads against this wicked one with the mouth of the witnesses of God who speak with FIRE coming out of their mouths.  See Rev 11 and 9.

Eze 39: 8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord God; this is the day whereof I have spoken. 9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years: 10 so that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.

11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call itThe valley of Hamon-gog. 12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. 13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them;and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord God.

14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search. 15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man’s bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamon-gog. 16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.

The day God spoke of is the day Jesus was crucified and resurrected.  It includes the day of Pentecost.  Here God brought forth a people with the power of God in them to combat this wicked one.  They ‘burned’ up the weapons of that OT law system, with the word of their mouth, speaking Grace to the world.

It lasted seven years, or the seven churches.  Those OT rulers had robbed them of freedom and truth, so now they rob them and take the prey, of people they convert to Christ Jesus.  They began burying Gog and all his multitude that as they themselves became free from this monster spirit, and were set free by the love of Jesus.

This idol, Gog, said kill, kill and torture.  Jesus  said, love your enemies.  Jesus said, heal the sick.  So they buried Gog and all his weapons of law.

By baptism are we BURIED WITH JESUS.  So they buried Gog and became Christ.   Seven months or seven churches, they bury Gog.  They severed out men of continual employment, or ministers, to pass through the land and find any who had not been cleansed, and ‘bury’ them in baptism, thus cleansing them from their sins.  They set up a SIGN by any man’s bone, until the buriers could get them buried.  This sign is SPEAKING IN TONGUES.  IT IS THE SIGN TO UNBELIEVERS THAT THEY HAVE NOT COME INTO THE TRUTH, SINCE THEY HATE THIS SIGN.  They will not be buried and come up in the resurrection.  

25 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name; 26 after that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid. 27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies’ lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations; 28 then shall they know that I am the Lord their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord God.

This goes back to those sons of God on the other side of the flood.  They are the heavenly Israel, not the earthly Jerusalem bunch.  Here God is showing that they will be redeemed from the mortality he put on them, as a result of their sin.  This whole house of Israel  = all of God’s people, will be redeemed and given back the glorified body that Adam lost.  God has poured out his Spirit on these.  They are the ones who have been correctly baptized into the body of Christ, filled with the Holy Ghost, speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.

By:  Jo Smith….  July 23, 2015

Identity of the true Jesus, part two

Amos 3:7  ..Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

God has made known everything of his Plans to mankind, by revealing it to his prophets.  Thus, everything of the working of God with earth, or man, has been prophesied beforehand by the OT Prophets.  So, if a doctrine is not in the OT Prophecy it is false.

Jesus was the beginning of fulfilling all those prophecies.  Mat one states that the birth of Jesus was done, so the prophecy in Isa  9:6 could then be fulfilled.

They went down into Egypt, so another prophecy could be fulfilled.  His entire life he was fulfilling the prophecies written in the OT Prophets.  God would do nothing that He had not already told them about, beforehand. 

Psalm 22 clearly shows the crucifixion of Jesus.  Isa 53 speaks of the same thing.  So it was laid out by prophecy.

But, the big question of their day, and the one plaguing the world today…. just who was Jesus?  Jesus himself asked his disciples, who do men say that I am.  He knew it was a question to them.  Some said Elias;  others said it was John risen from the dead.  Some others had gotten it right…they said, He is THAT PROPHET.

So now, what Prophet were they speaking of?  The answer is in Deut  18.   17 And the Lord said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.

18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

God told Moses,  I will raise them up a PROPHET… from among their BRETHREN,  like unto you, Moses.

Now this solidly proves that God has promised the nation of Israel a prophet, which will come from among their own selves and be like Moses.  But that is not all.

God said, I will put MY WORDS in his mouth.

He shall SPEAK all that I command him.

And whoever does not hearken unto MY WORDS, which this prophet shall SPEAK in my name, I will require it of him.

Strong words.  a great promise.  All Israel waited and looked for this prophet to arrive.  They had gone to John and asked John if he were THAT prophet.  John had said, NO.

I have had a person arguing with me for weeks that John was that prophet, in spite of the fact that he said, NO.

They have told me there is no way Jesus could be that prophet, for Jesus was never identified as a prophet.  See, this is the error people get into when they do not study the Word of God and go by what the Word says.   Do not add to his words:  do not take away from his words. 

So the first thing I will prove in this message is….was Jesus truly THAT PROPHET.

Let’s ask Peter:   Acts 3: 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

Peter clearly identifies Jesus as being THAT PROPHET spoken of by Moses.

Stephen also spoke of this, just before they stoned him to death.  They had asked him, in Acts 6, if the things they had heard about Jesus was true that he was going to destroy the temple and the things of Moses.  Here is part of his answer: 

 37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

Stephen is clearly showing that Moses was speaking about Jesus.  They ended up killing him over this conversation.

Did the people of Jesus’ day think of him as a prophet?  There is many instances that prove they did.  

John 9: 17 They say unto the blind man again, What sayest thou of him, that he hath opened thine eyes? He said, He is a prophet.

This is the blind man that Jesus had healed.  He bore witness that Jesus was a PROPHET.  They knew the prophecy of a coming PROPHET.  They never heard of a coming God robbed in human flesh, as the church teaches.

They never heard of a god incarnate.  They never heard of a god-man.  These things had not been prophesied, so God never intended to do such.

The woman at the well…John 4: 19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet.

Then she said,  25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.

26 Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

Jesus confessed to being the Messias;  he did not deny being a prophet.  He had told her, God is a spirit.  So she did not even consider that this MAN speaking to her was God.

John 7: 40 Many of the people therefore, when they heard this saying, said, Of a truth this is the Prophet.

41 Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee?

42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

Now here we have the words of people who knew the prophecies of Jesus.  They said of a TRUTH, this is THE PROPHET.  This the prophet they were looking for;  the one Moses had told them they and better listen to.  Then they bear out another truth, from Scripture….Christ comes of the SEED OF DAVID.

These people knew the word; the prophecies.  This is what they knew God had prophesied to come.  They had never heard of a man, who came from the seed of God and was therefore a god-man.  Not one soul in Scripture bore witness to such a thing as this.

Here is another proof and witness that the people who knew the prophecies of the Word of God, were looking for that prophet which Moses had told them was to come. 

John 6: 14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.

Those people who saw the miracle of Jesus feeding the multitude, did not think this proved him to be a god.  They said, of a TRUTH this is THAT PROPHET THAT SHOULD COME INTO THE WORLD.  So now I have given the needed three witnesses proving, without a doubt, that Jesus was the PROPHET which Moses prophesied of.  So, how do people get the wild idea that Jesus was never identified as a prophet?  and especially the one that Moses told them they must hear, because God would PUT HIS WORDS INTO THE MOUTH OF THIS PROPHET, AND THIS PROPHET WOULD …SPEAK…THE WORDS OF GOD.

People, this is exactly why the world, the hoards of people who fill the churches, do not want to acknowledge that Jesus is THAT PROPHET….THIS PROVES HE WAS NOT THE WORD OF GOD, NOR WAS HE GOD.

God FED HIS WORD TO THIS PROPHET.  It is the same one in Rev   10, who went unto the angel, took the BOOK, (God’s word) and ATE IT.

See, this PROVES that Jesus was not God, was not God’s word, BUT FED ON THE WORD OR SPIRITUAL FLESH OF GOD.

Luke 7: 16 And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.

After Jesus raised the dead son to life, the people said, A great PROPHET is risen up among us.  They did not think Jesus was God, just because he raised this dead man.  But they knew it was the work of God.  They called Jesus a great PROPHET.

Luke 24… after Jesus was risen from the dead and talked with the men on the road to Emmaus, and asked them why they were so sad, they said this: 

 19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:

These men had walked with Jesus before his death.  They knew he was a PROPHET, who worked BEFORE GOD AND ALL THE PEOPLE.  They never once said, Jesus was God.  No one in Scripture ever said that, not even Jesus.

The pharisees wanted to take Jesus for he spake against them.  But :  Mat 21:46 But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet.

The MULTITUDE took Jesus for a PROPHET.  Wonder why?  They knew the OT prophecies.  They never, not one time, no matter how many miracles they saw him do, never did they consider him to be a god, or god robed in flesh, or God in the flesh, or any such foolish doctrine.  it is not once named.  But the hirelings of later years, drug up this false doctrine, and the multitude of blind people accepted it without question;  never looking into the Word of God to see it if is true.  God will judge you all guilty who do not search his Word for his Truth.

Was Jesus conceived from God-seed, or seed of man?

False doctrine claims that God spoke his Word into the womb of Mary and she conceived Jesus this way.  No scripture says this.  It comes from the book of lies.

Here is what Scripture said:  Acts 13: 23..  Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Now this clearly said that Jesus came from a MAN’S SEED. 

Romans 1: 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

This said Jesus was made of the SEED OF DAVID, according to the flesh.  [two witnesses]

2Tim 2:8… Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

Now this gives us three witnesses that Jesus came from the SEED OF DAVID.

Heb 2:16…For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

Another witness.

John 7: 42..Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

Acts 2: 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

[Peter preaching]

Peter clearly shows here that Christ came from the fruit of the LOINS of David.  This had to have passed from a son of David; not Mary.  Women could not be spoken of this way. 

John 1: 45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.

John 6: 42  42 And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?

Now there is two scripture witnesses saying that Jesus was the SON OF JOSEPH.  WHY DOES NO ONE BELIEVE THIS WORD?  [And if you say, step son or adopted son, are you not adding to God’s word to back up a man-made lie?  Of course you are…eating from the book of lies;  whore’s flesh].

Was this prophesied?  Yes! 

Isaiah 11:  1…And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;

3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:

4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth: with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

…a ‘rod’ out of the STEM of Jesse, (father of David).

So is it speaking of Mary?  Is the woman called the STEM of a man?  I think not. 

Also, there is no proof that she is from the family of David, but is proven to be of the family of Aaron.

Of the many lies about how Mary conceived Jesus,  I find not one scripture for the lie.  The word did not enter her womb.  God did not enter her womb.  God was not conceived in her womb.  A part human/part god person was not conceived in her.  Not one single person is all of God’s word said they believe these lies.  it is not mentioned.

When Jesus asked Peter, whom do you say that I am, Peter did not say, you are god.  He said you are the Christ, the son of the living God.  This Christ speaks of the resurrection.  it is not Mary’s baby or the man dying on the cross.  The entire church world has been deceived and is in lies till this very day and cannot accept one word of Truth.

Outside their prison cell, they see nothing but Holiness, sanctification, Holy living, no idols, no holidays, no adulteries, no stealing, no one ruling over another; no one being paid to preach or teach. etc.

So, these prisoners love it right where they are and will not leave their prison cell, even though Jesus has unlocked the door for them.  They flat refuse to go outside for they love their lies and idols more than truth.  They would rather eat the flesh of the whore than to have to eat the flesh of Jesus.  They love the book of lies more than the Book of truth.

Jesus said, In the volume of the Book, it is written of ME…so now, go find and show me, from this volume, one word stating that this Jesus is God in flesh;  God incarnate;  conceived in the womb by God-seed; god robed in human flesh; or any of the other lies of their book of lies.   Show me where it is written in the volume of the right Book.  Cannot be done.

By:  Jo Smith…..  Jan 29, 2016 

Identity of the true Jesus.

God spoke directly to me, years ago, and told me to always use only Scriptural terminology.   The reason this is so important is that if we speak anything concerning God, which is NOT written in Scripture, then we are making a lie.  We are either adding to His word or taking away from it and changing it.  This makes it a lie.

Just because the lie has been told so many times, for so long, and that most people now believe the lie, does NOT MAKE IT TRUE.

Who really wants the truth?  If you do, you must seek the answers solely from written Scripture.  Do not accept anything that you cannot solidly prove with written scripture.

We are commanded by God to prove all things.  So when you hear any doctrine or idea, you must take it to the word of God and see if it is written as told, or not.

Unless you do this, you are accepting the words of satan and do not care.  You will never know the truth if you do this and fail to search the Scriptures, as Jesus told us to do.

So now to day I am going to show you proof that Jesus is the natural son of Joseph.  I will prove that Mary was of the family of Aaron.  In order for Jesus to be of the seed of David he had to be the son of Joseph, as Scripture says he is.

In order for Jesus to be what the world/church teaches, men had to make up a lot of lies.  They know that God cannot die, so in order for Jesus to be able to die, they had to make up a false Jesus.  They say this Jesus has a DUAL NATURE… [LIE #1]

So now, this DUAL NATURE is something you need to prove with written Scripture.   Where is it?  It is in the book of lies 3:4

Did you ever read the book of lies?  Of course you have.  Every time you listen to men preaching the false doctrines of men, you are reading this book of lies.

Lie # 2.  Jesus is 100% man and 100% God.  Ever read this lie?  Sure you have.  It is Lies 5:10.  Read it for yourself.

Lie # 3.  Jesus had no human mind of his own;  His inner man is God.  Book of lies 6:2.

Lie #4.  Jesus is a GodMan.  Book of lies 7:12.

Lie #5.  Jesus is God the son.   Book of lies 8:2.

Lie #6.  Jesus is the second person in the Godhead.  Lies 4:77.

Lie #7.  Jesus is God and the only one.  He is his own father.  Lies 8:33.

Lie #8.  Jesus is God incarnate.  Lies 10:44.

LIE #9.  Jesus was born Dec 25, and wants a birthday party every year, complete with decorated trees and many presents.  Lies 44:32.

Lie #10.  Jesus is the word of God.  Lies 3:66.

Lie # 11.  God spoke his word into the womb of Mary and brought forth a baby, who was part human and part God.  Lies 7: 55.  (Not one word of Scripture says any of this).

Let’s begin proving who the true Jesus is/was, with this verse of WRITTEN SCRIPTURE:

Matthew 1 (KJV):1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

This very first verse of the NT said that Jesus is the SON OF DAVID and the son of Abraham.   Now I know most people think this came through his mother, Mary.  But I am going to prove by the word of God, that this is simply not true.

16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

See that his geneology is passing through JOSEPH.  Jacob BEGAT Joseph.

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:

25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name Jesus.

The angel told Joseph to call the baby’s name JESUS.  Verse 22 shows that the birth of Jesus was done SO THAT something else could be accomplished…another prophesy could be fulfilled… [all this was done, THAT IT MIGHT be fulfilled]… about the virgin bearing a son and THEY shall call his name EMMANUEL.

Not Jesus;  Emmanuel.  Verse25…she brought forth her son and HE CALLED HIS NAME JESUS; Not emmanuel.  

This Emmanuel is the spiritual SON OF GOD, BROUGHT FORTH BY JESUS CHRIST.  Jesus is this virgin which bore Emmanuel.  I will prove it.  (This is not denying that Mary was a virgin).  But the prophesy in Isa 9:6 is about the virgin JESUS.  He was a virgin to God. 

Now I will show you that the natural birth of Jesus was done SO ANOTHER PROPHESY COULD BE FULFILLED… When it said, that it might be fulfilled…. was showing that this first needed to be done, so the other could be done….same as this verse:

14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:

15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.

See here it said they went into Egypt, so this other prophesy could be fulfilled….BUT it was not fulfilled right then, but later.  Same with Jesus being born so later, Emmanuel could come forth.

Luke 1: 5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.

Nothing is Scripture is there without a direct purpose.  When God said, His wife was of the daughters of Aaron, this is for a DIRECT PURPOSE.

27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.

Notice this identifies JOSEPH as being of the house of DAVID.

If Jesus had a ‘dual nature’ it is the same one I have  = I am a fleshly person with a son of God inside me, by the spirit of God that He has given me.  I have an earthly Dad and a heavenly Father.  So it was with Jesus and this next verse PROVES IT:

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Look at this.  I know, most people are too carnal minded, too blind, too deaf to hear or see what this is really saying…but it is here just the same     = two fathers for Jesus.

…he shall be called  (future tense)… the Son of the Highest…. but the Lord God fave to him the throne of his FATHER…DAVID. 

Now either you must see that this mentions TWO DIFFERENT FATHERS FOR JESUS, or you must call David the highest.  YOU MUST CALL DAVID GOD… Which is it?

36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

Now as I told you, everything in Scripture is there for a direct purpose.  Why did this angel point out the fact that Mary is COUSIN to Elizabeth?  He has already told us that Elizabeth is of the daughters of AARON.  In order for Mary to be her cousin, Mary has to also be from the family of Aaron.  Mary is never identified to be of the family of David and Joseph is.

Matthew 1:20

But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Here Joseph is clearly told to be the son of David.  This is very important to proving the true Jesus.

Matthew 12:23

And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?

Here Jesus is called the son of David.  He is called this many times in scripture.

Luke 1:27

To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.

Here is solid proof that Joseph was of the house of DAVID. (very important in proving who Jesus really is or was).

Here is proof that Jesus was of the house of David:  Luke 1:69

And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;

Luke 2:4

And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David🙂

Joseph was of the house and lineage of David.  Why do you suppose the Word of God goes to this much expression to prove that it is Joseph which is the one from the house of David? It never, not once, says that Mary is of the house or lineage of David.  It shows that she is of the house of Aaron.  (This is important in order for Jesus to be a high priest;  of the family of Aaron;  had to be in order to offer a sin-sacrifice to God).

John 7:42

Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

Now coming from the SEED of David, means the natural humanity of Jesus was from the family of David.  The SEED shows the fleshly children.  The proof of this is in John 8.  Jesus told the Pharisees, I know you are the SEED of Abraham, but you are not his CHILDREN.

So for Jesus to be of the SEED of David, it means coming from the natural sperm of a man.  (must be blunt and clear for most people are so dull of hearing, they cannot see an inch in front of their noses, when it come to the word of God).

Surely everyone knows that the WOMAN DOES NOT CARRY THE MAN’S SEED?  (do you not know this?)

Romans 1:3

Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Now I truly do not know how it could need to be any plainer than the above verse…Jesus was made of the SEED OF DAVID according to the flesh.  …means his fleshly body was from the natural SEED OF DAVID.  Now either it had to come from the son of David, of the house and lineage of David,  JOSEPH, or it had to come from the dead David, laying rotted in a grave.  Which do you think it was?  Can not the Holy Ghost just as easily take seed from Joseph, as to put something into Mary?  How carnal men handle the Word of God.

I asked a person, a few days ago, whose seed did the Holy Ghost put into Mary.  They said,  God seed.  Not so.  this also comes from the Book of lies.

2 Timothy 2:8

Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

So now, see how many verse from the true Word of God, (not the book of lies)…says that Jesus is of the SEED OF DAVID?  Read this people…SEED OF DAVID…SPERM OF DAVID…DID MARY HAVE THIS?  And even if she did,  she is of the house and lineage of AARON.  If you say no, the you call the word of God a lie.  And you have no proof of anything else.

Acts 13: 22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave their testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

So, God had promised David that of his SEED he would raise up a Savior.  How then can the entire church world say Jesus was born from the seed of God?

God is a spirit and does not have physical seed.  He does not beget natural children.  He begat a spiritual Son, Jesus Christ…brought forth at his RESURRECTION.  

33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

Still in Acts 13… the above proves that the day God beget his Son was the day he raised him from the dead.

Doesn’t that agree with Roman 1:3?  Sure it does.   This was Paul preaching. 

Acts 3: 22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.

23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

This proves that Jesus is indeed, the prophet that God told Moses He would raise up, like unto Moses.  People argue with me that Jesus could not be this prophet.  But see here that Peter said he was.  See, they know that when they admit that Jesus is this prophet, that God said, I will put my words into his mouth…they have to see that Jesus is not the Word of God, but God fed his word to Jesus.

Now, Peter preaching:  Acts  2: 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

God had sworn with an oath to David, of the fruit of YOUR LOINS, According to the flesh, HE WOULD RAISE UP CHRIST to sit on his throne.  Does this not fit Mat who said God will give him the throne of his Father, David?

How much Scripture can you safely call a lie?  I think NONE.  But you who claim Jesus had no earthly father have to call all of the above verses, and some others,  A LIE.  Do you dare?  Sure you do…for you all read the Book of lies.

Now to prove that Jesus was a MAN, AND NOT A GOD, still in Acts 2…words of Peter:  22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

A MAN, APPROVED OF GOD.  Nope, says the book of lies…Jesus is God and nothing can change that.  We will not listen to the King James Scriptures.  We love the book of lies.

Was Jesus, the Christ, born a son of God, from Mary?  Let’s just see:  Col 1: 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

FIRSTBORN FROM THE DEAD….so was Mary the dead?   No, the book of lies did not say this, so we will not agree with this…say those who hold that Mary had a baby god.

Is there more witness of this:  sure.  Rev 1: 5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

So, two witnesses:  Jesus Christ, the first BEGOTTEN OF THE DEAD.

Seed of David…Joseph thy son of David…

Luke 3:23

And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

the word here….BEING… means he WAS this…(as was supposed) merely means that the people of his day thought this…but the word BEING, shows that he was the son of Joseph.   But of course the Book of Lies denies this.  So the people believe the book of lies.

John 1:45

Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.

John 6:42

And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?

Not one soul in the days of Jesus was expecting or looking for a godman.  They never heard of such a thing.  It was never prophesied.  They were not looking for a god incarnate.  They never heard of such a thing.  It was not prophesied.

They were looking for a PROPHET like unto Moses, from among their brethren…themselves.

In Hebrews it said he was made in all points like unto his brethren.  He was tempted in all point like us, yet without sin.  God cannot be tempted with sin.

You must call the entire Holy Scripture a lie to hold to your lies that Mary had God-seed implanted in her womb and brought forth a person who was a god, or part god, or any such thing.

You will lose your soul holding to that book of lies.  I have proven every word with written Scripture.  Those of you who disagree, (and I am sure most of you  do)…bring forth one Scripture from the Holy Word saying what you say.  You cannot do it.  So you will cling to the book of lies.

By: Jo Smith   Jan 27, 2016

 

A few minutes ago I left the computer. I was thinking about something great that God showed me. I had just read how we will all be judged and rewarded or punished, according to the things we did in our body. Every person shall receive the reward or punishment that they earned by the things they did in their body, while they lived on earth.
The lies of blind men running the ‘streets’ with their lies have blinded the people to this truth. They say everyone will receive the very same reward or punishment.

 

Date Posted：05/11/2017 4:50 PM

Perfect or Perfected

I know most of you will think I am belittling Jesus in this post. But to those that understand that I am in no way belittling Jesus,
but I am only showing the truth of the word. So to those of you that think I am, I am only turning over your apple cart So if you want to upright it, prove me wrong with scripture. That is the only way to prove a person wrong is wrong by the WORD of God. If there is one thing that I am sure of is that I have the truth of the WORD. I am in no way trying to lift myself up.
When was Jesus made perfect or perfected? I will answer this question later on.

Jesus was not perfected on the day he was born. Jesus was the son of man. Jesus was not God. There is no scripture that states
” he was God” so he was not perfected. Jesus did not come in the image of God and neither did mankind.
Jesus was made in the flesh as you and I are. He came in the form of dustman or clay. He came as a servant. A servant is not God.
All of these teaching going out that Jesus came in the flesh as God and was God is nothing but the manmade doctrine of lies. They can not take scripture and show me wrong. There is no scripture stating Jesus was God.

To prove Jesus came in the likeness of sinful man and a servant. Let scripture show us this. Now, remember this is not me saying this.
This is scripture. Romans 8:3King James Version (KJV)
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for
sin, condemned sin in the flesh. ( see the word shows that Jesus came as the likeness sinful man. How much clearer can it be?)
Philippians- 2:7…..But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: (this
is showing that he came as a servant and the likeness of men. Again how much clearer can if be?
Jesus could have sinned but he did not. Jesus could have failed but he did not. He stayed obedience to the word.
Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
So Jesus was not made perfect or perfected when he was a servant or when he was in the likeness of sinful flesh So when was Jesus made perfect or perfection? So when did Jesus become a son of God?

One step forward. Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, (Jesus)and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Did the Holy Ghost make Jesus perfect or perfected? I say no. It did not make him perfected, it was only a start to his perfection. Without
the Holy Ghost, no man can be made perfect or perfected.
When Jesus was on the cross, he said John 19:30 [Full Chapter]
When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. ( what was finished.)
Just saw this about gave up the ghost. He no longer needed the Holy Ghost. Also gave up means …to give into the hands (of another)
to give over into (one’s) power or use to deliver to one something to keep, use, take care of, manage. So this is also showing
1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. Whew, what a great revelation God has just given me.
So what was finished? His perfection.
If the Holy Ghost did not make him perfected, what did? How does one become as the image of God and perfected?
Luke 13:32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.
So what is the three days he is talking about?
We know that Jesus said John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
Here we see the three days spoken of again? But what are the three days? Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. ( heart of the earth is showing the grave)
This is showing the third day that Jesus was talking about that he was perfected. It is when he became the son of God. Coming forth from the grave being one with God and the image of God. Romans 1 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: ( So this is showing that he was perfected and it was finished when he came forth from the grave.
The same thing that Paul said in 2 Timothy 4…. 6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.
7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: ( so Paul said the same as Jesus said: “it is finished.”

Perfected means to make perfect, complete
to carry through completely, to accomplish, finish, bring to an end
to complete (perfect)
add what is yet wanting in order to render a thing full
to be found perfect
to bring to the end (goal) proposed
to accomplish bring to a close or fulfilment by event of the prophecies of the scripture
So in all this, we see the perfection of Jesus in Luke 13:32 … the third day I shall be perfected.

I have been asked before am I perfect? No, but I am striving to be. I am not and will not be until I did just as Jesus.
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.( in the body of dust no one will ever be perfect.
This fleshly body and carnal mind is enmity against God. So perfection becomes as we come forth from the grave in the image of God.
The same way that Jesus did. We must finish the course. We only started the race when we received the Holy Ghost
Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Larry Bray… 5/11/17

Date Posted：08/15/2017 10:11 PM

Larry Bray
August 13 at 2:49pm · Comer, GA ·
Matthew 24:35King James Version

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. My question is; who or what is the Heaven and earth that will pass away?

Date Posted：08/15/2017 10:12 PM

Larry Bray Here is my answer to the question I asked. It was longer than I thought it was going to be. First of all, you must remember that from Genesis to Revelation is about Jesus.
So let me try to explain this to me and you the best I know how.
The Heaven and the earth that passed away was Jesus.
Now in the English when we say that “someone passed away” it means they died or deceased.

So Jesus was the Heaven and the earth that passed away at Calvary.
Earth showing his fleshly body and heavenly showing his spiritual side Jesus had both.
Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: ( this is showing that Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh as you and I. Jesus born of natural man. He could have sinned as you and I. But Praise the Lord he condemned sin in the flesh. The fleshly was prone to sin and opposed to God. So the natural man deceased at Calvary.

There was darkness at the crucifixion of Jesus at Golgotha.
Mat: 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken
me? ( Why was there darkness? I think the above scripture says it best. God had forsaken Jesus because of the sinful flesh that was in Jesus.
There was no more light. Darkness had covered the light. There was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. this silence was no more of
the truth coming forth. Nothing from the spiritual side of Jesus.

Now let me also show what died out but the church has resurrected it or brought it back to life. This is what Jesus killed on the cross. Jesus destroyed
the earth that was passed away. He destroyed the law with those 10 commandments….Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; ( the law is no more but as I said earlier that the church brought it back up. They revied the law that Jesus destroyed. They gave it breath.

Galatians 5: 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. ( There is no justification under the law and you have fallen from grace. Jesus set us free from that earthly flesh and we are no more under the law.

He did away with that law. Jesus said to the woman at the well when ye shall neither in this mountain nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. That was the old Jerusalem Galatians 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. See that the earthly has passed away. There was nothing but bondage under that old Jerusalem the fleshly side. but praise the Lord Jesus did away with the old and brought about the new.
Galatians 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. ( praise God we are free)

He destroyed the earthly and brought in a New Jerusalem. Revelation 21:1…And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
See the passed away here in this scripture. Was that not in the scripture that I asked the question? sure it was. Matthew 24:35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

One more scripture. Revelation 21: 2
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. … ( once again the same as my question, the first heaven, and the first earth were passed away. Now we do not have to go to those old Tabernacles
(churches) that was passed away. We now have the tabernacle of God dwelling inside of us, the Holy Ghost. Praise the Lord for this New Jerusalem. That old Jerusalem has passed away or deceased to be
with the true people of God. We now have the New Jerusalem, which will be forever and never pass away.

Date Posted：08/15/2017 10:11 PM

Larry Bray
August 13 at 2:49pm · Comer, GA ·
Matthew 24:35King James Version

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. My question is; who or what is the Heaven and earth that will pass away?

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Who is the Son

By: Jo Smith..June 23, 2018

John 1: 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 

34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel. 

50 Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these. 

51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.

Here we have two men saying, this is the Son of God.  Jesus himself said, ‘the Son of man’.  So which is it?

Matthew 11:27

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Luke 10:22

All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

Now there we have two witnesses, Scripture writers, stating that no man knows who the Son is, but the Father.

So if no man knows who the son is, but the Father, how did John and Phillip know who the Son is? 

Mat. 16: 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Cæsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood 

hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Jesus asked his disciples, whom do men say that I the SON OF MAN am?

Peter said thou are the Christ, the SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

JESUS  then said, the Father revealed this to you.  No man knows who the Son is unless the Father reveals it to them.

Peter was not answering the question, who is the son of man;  he went to the answer of who the Son of God is. 

The entire church world says that Mary’s baby Jesus, is the son of God.  So if it takes a revelation from the Father to show who the Son of God is, how is it that all these people think they know who it is?  Surely they did not all receive a revelation from the Father.

Now let’s set up one more line of thought:

John 1: 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

God gives the believers on his name, power TO BECOME (future  tense) SONS OF GOD.

So if Mary’s baby is this Son of God and we receive power to also become a son of God, will the God of heaven come into our mother and put himself there? …in her natural womb?  

But he said this will not be of blood or the will of the flesh or the will of man. 

Now more:

 John 3: 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? 

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth:

 so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Now here is the mystery:  Jesus said, that which is born of the flesh is FLESH.

That which is born of the  Spirit is Spirit..

God is a Spirit.  God does NOT beget fleshly sons.

So to say that Mary’s baby is this Son of God is to call these words of Jesus a LIE.  He said that which is born of Spirit is Spirit.  His flesh was not born from a Spirit.  God, the Father, is a spirit.  So Mary’s  little human baby cannot be this SON OF GOD.

The word very clearly declares in several different verses that Jesus is the son of JOSEPH.

God clearly said, he was born of the seed of a man, David.  He is clearly called the son of Abraham and David.   Joseph is clearly shown to be a son of David. 

Neither of these men are spirit.  They did not Father the Son of God.  They fathered Mary’s baby.

This is why Jesus called himself, son of MAN.  He was speaking of himself and needed no revelation from the Father to know this.

Acts 2: 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

God swore to David, of the fruit of HIS LOINS, according to the FLESH, HE would raise up Christ to sit on his throne.

That which is born of flesh is flesh.  This flesh man is Mary’s baby.  This is not the Son of God.  Yet some had declared to him, you are the Son of God.  So what is the answer?

36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

God made that same Jesus, (Mary’s son) whom they had crucified, to be BOTH Lord and Christ.  THIS Is that Christ, that is the Son of the Living God.

Romans 1 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2 (which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 

3 concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

 4 and declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Now here is the answer to the mystery:

Jesus Christ was made of the Seed of David ACCORDING TO THE FLESH….THAT WHICH IS BORN OF FLESH IS FLESH.

Jesus was a flesh man, made from the seed of a man;  performed by the Holy  Ghost;  not the will of man.

The Son of God was begotten the day God raised the man, Jesus, from the dead.  He is the firstborn from the DEAD.

The day Jesus was baptized by John, God gave to Jesus the HOLY GHOST.  Thus Jesus had the Son of God inside himself;  his spiritual womb.

This growing son of God, inside the man Jesus, is this Son of God.  It takes a revelation from the Father to know this and that is why the church has no knowledge of this.  They have not been taught by the Father.

They must also conceive seed from  God, given to us by Jesus via the Holy Ghost, in order to bring forth a son of God.  This is the only means of NEW BIRTH….being born from the Spirit.

Remember, no man knows this son of God except the Father reveals it to you.  and no man knows the Father unless the Son of God reveals it to you.

Hence, very few know the true Son of God or the Father of that son. 

Amen. 

The Lamb becomes a Lion

By: Jo Smith ****** December 31, 2016

On this last day of the year I wish to write a powerful message that God began revealing to me a few weeks ago. I did not write on it to begin with for I felt I needed more to prove this with. Last night before laying down, I asked Jesus to show me scripture proof. I said, If I am overlooking scripture that proves this message, please show it to me.

Almost immediately Jesus began ‘preaching’ it to me. So much proof!

God had spoken to me that after Jesus rose and ascended to heaven, He no longer needed or had the Holy Ghost. It was quite shocking to me. But a few years ago I wrote a deep and powerful message called, The Wife of God.

In this message I showed that the Spirit of the Lord God is the Spirit that was given to Jesus for his own glorified body. In other words, Jesus and this Spirit of the Lord God MARRIED, or became ONE.

Now I know this will be almost impossible for anyone to see, who thinks that Jesus was God in flesh, or that God is only 1 or 3 ‘persons’. These two lies blind you to all the truth of God.

If you read that message it will help you to understand this message. We must learn all along the way or not be able to see something new, that God reveals to someone who is being TAUGHT BY THE TEACHER.

Who is this TEACHER? Let Scripture show you: John 14: 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The Holy Ghost is our COMFORTER and also our TEACHER. He shall teach you all things. If He is not teaching you, you have a false spirit.

John 15: 26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

The Holy Ghost is the spirit of TRUTH. When a person cannot discern or believe or accept TRUTH, as it is taught, that person does NOT HAVE THIS SPIRIT OF TRUTH, but a lying spirit from satan.

John 16: 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

A deep truth is revealed here: Jesus said it is expedient that I go away, for if I do not go away, the COMFORTER will not come unto you. But if I depart, I will send him unto you.

See, Jesus is telling these disciples that this Holy Ghost comforter cannot come unto them, until Jesus ascends to the Father and is commissioned to be our Lord and our God. Then, and only then, could Jesus send the Holy Ghost unto the people.

God only gave the Holy Ghost to one person, Jesus Christ. This Holy Ghost was given to Jesus when John Baptized Jesus.

Jesus was given this Spirit of God, without measure. He had the fullness of this Spirit. Therefore, he could not send this Spirit upon these other men until He himself became our God. Then Jesus sends this Holy Ghost on those whom he baptizes into his own body.

I will not try to prove all these statement in this message, for I have fully proven them in other messages. That would make this be too long and is not the subject of this message. Only those who have this spirit of Truth will be able to receive this, anyway.

John 16: 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Now again we are shown that this Spirit of Truth will guide you into ALL TRUTH. He is our GUIDE. If He is not leading you and guiding you into more and more truth, You do not have the Holy Ghost. He will do his job.

John 17: 8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

God, the Father, GAVE His Word TO JESUS. Jesus is not the Word of God, as false teachers claim. Jesus said, I gave them the words that you gave to me. So, why call Jesus a lie to try and back up your false church?

John 14: 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

The Father of Jesus, God himself, (not physical dad, but spiritual Father) was always in Heaven…but there is something of the Father, in the Spirit which he sent to this world, that dwelt inside Jesus; Not Jesus’ own spirit, but the Holy Ghost given to Jesus by God, the Father.

This Spirit of God, dwelling in Jesus, was the one doing the mighty works. Without this Spirit from God, Jesus could not have done the mighty works. He never claimed to do these works by his own power. He said, the Father who dwells in me, He does the works.

But notice something great: 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Jesus now told these disciples, the words that I do, shall you do also, all that believes on me shall do these same and greater works, BECAUSE I GO TO MY FATHER.

Now let that soak in. I GO TO MY FATHER….and yet the Father dwelt in him…..see, has to be more to this than the gates to hell, false churches, teach.

IF, this Spirit of God, dwelling in Jesus, is/was ALL there is to God, then what is He talking about…I GO TO MY FATHER..

He had to GO SOMEWHERE ELSE to go to his Father. This is when he ascended up to heaven. Something very great and powerful happened when Jesus went to his Father, in heaven. And that is what this message is about.

Jesus was telling his people, after I send this Spirit of the Holy Ghost back unto you, you will be able to do the very same works that I am doing, and even more. So, if the ‘spirit’ you got when you got ‘saved’ does not do these works, does not even believe in them, you most certainly received a false spirit from satan.

John 14: 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

This Holy Ghost was with them because he was in Jesus; but Jesus said he shall be IN YOU.

Jesus said, I will pray the Father….so is He praying to himself? that is foolishness….and He, will give you another COMFORTER, that he, this comforter may abide with you for ever. This, forever, means while you live in this life; it is not eternally. This is easily proven by many scriptures.

While we are here, in this earthly life, we need this comforting Spirit the Holy Ghost, to lead us and guide us and teach us all truth. After we are in a glorified body, or eternal life, eternal health, eternal knowledge, WHAT NEED WOULD WE HAVE FOR A COMFORTER? OR TEACHER? OR GUILDE?

That is what this revelation is; After we reach immortality, we will no longer need or have the Holy Ghost. That Spirit is given to us for the NOW, while we are in this mortal body and need a comforter; a teacher; a healer; a guide.

Who ever heard of an angel having the Holy Ghost? They do not need this spirit. It is given to earthly mortals.

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Jesus is saying, We, my Father and I will come unto you and make our abode with you. So when we receive the Holy Ghost, we then have the very essence or presence of both the Father and Jesus. This Spirit is sent from them to us and is their spirit. Jesus had the Holy Ghost and that was the spirit of his Father in him. So sad that the church world has missed this truth and failed to teach it to their people.

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The Father sends the Holy Ghost in the name of Jesus…..so if you refuse to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, you are not a recipient for the Holy Ghost. It only comes in the name, or authority of Jesus Christ. The Father only beget one son and that is Jesus, when He gave Jesus the Holy Ghost. Now Jesus is our father and begets us by giving us the Holy Ghost. That spirit of God will be with us, teaching us and leading us until we come into immortality. At this time we will no longer need or have the Holy Ghost. We will be given another Spirit from God.

So with that said, I will now show you that this same thing happened with Jesus Christ. He had this Spirit without measure as long as he was here in a mortal body. It led and taught Jesus all truth.

But when Jesus was raised from the dead, into immortality and raised up to heaven, He was given a different Spirit from God and no longer needed the Holy Ghost.

Jesus had said, The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, for He has anointed me. This Spirit of the Lord God is different from the Holy Ghost. This Spirit is second only to God the Father. Jesus was given this Spirit of the Lord God to be his own glorified body, after he ascended to Heaven.

Jesus and this Spirit became ONE, or married. Jesus is now called the Lord God, for he has been given this spirit for eternity as his own spiritual husband. I know that the ‘god’ taught by all the churches is false and you cannot possibly understand this until you see the error of their teachings, that God is just 1 or 3 persons. No Scripture teaches these lies.

I also know that for most of you, your interest in spiritual things, especially when it comes through me, is so low, that you will not read this….but for any who will read it, here is spiritual food from heaven.

Why would an immortal glorified being need a teacher? or a guide? or a comforter? They do not need such things for they are totally without such mortal failings or needs. They have no need for a comforter for they are never upset, or sick or need teaching. The Word of God tells us that when we receive immortality, there will be no more tears, sickness or weakness, no need to be taught for we will then know as we are known. Glory!

Jesus was given all power in heaven and earth, after his resurrection, so why would he need a comforter or leader or guide any longer? No, He did not need the Holy Ghost, for now he has been set on the throne of God himself, and ruling as God. He has all knowledge and does not need a teacher.

This is why Jesus said, If I go not away the comforter will not come…..Jesus had all of this spirit. He could not send this spirit to his disciples until He went to heaven and was crowned by the spirit of the Lord God and then set on the throne of God.

Then he no longer had this Holy Ghost and he could then sent it back down on the disciples and any others who meet the requirements. We are all given the Spirit by measure; only the part that God allows us to have; but not so with Jesus; He had this entire Spirit, without measure.

But when we all have this Spirit we can do the very same works that Jesus did, for it is the Holy Ghost, or God in us, doing the works.

Now I have shown you what the Holy Ghost was given to us for, I will show you more of what kind of Spirit his is and why we will not need this spirit into eternity. This Holy Ghost spirit is like the servant who was sent by Abraham to get a bride for Isaac. The camels represent this Spirit, as Rebecca rode on the camels to go to Isaac. After she go to Isaac, she no longer needed the camels.

Luke 9King James Version (KJV)

9 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.

2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

Jesus gave his disciples power over devils and to cure diseases and the preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. This is what the spirit of the Holy Ghost does. He is sent for salvation and healing and a teacher.

52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what MANNER of spirit ye are of.

56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Now here is the secret to dividing this Holy Ghost spirit from the spirit of FIRE.

Remember that Elijah of old, had called down fire from heaven and destroyed the Baal prophets….well this is what the disciples were referring to and wanting to do. They wanted to do as Elijah and call down FIRE from heaven and consume these people.

But Jesus rebuked them and said, Ye know not what MANNER (or kind of spirit) you are of.

The Son of man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to SAVE THEM.

Why? It is because he had the Holy Ghost which is the comforter, the healer, teacher and guide, leading men to SALVATION.

Jesus never attempted to call down fire from heaven. He did not allow his disciples to do this thing. They received the baptism of the HOLY GHOST, on the day of Pentecost. They did not RECEIVE the baptism of FIRE. I can prove that, but will not in this message, for this is going to be a long message. (Only those who have received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, will be given the Baptism of Fire; Joel 2 proves this.)

Jesus taught his disciples to not resist evil, but turn the other cheek. Do not return railing for railing. Give to those who ask of you; heal the sick, preach the gospel. baptize sinners. if they ask you to a mile, go twain. If they ask for your coat, give them your cloak also. If they hit you on one side, turn the other side.

Jesus allowed men to spit in his face, beat him, curse him, put a heavy cross on his back, a crown of thorns on his head and then nail him to that cross and let him die. Why? He said, I am MEEK AND LOWLY. I do not have a place to lay my head. Take up your cross and follow me. If they throw you in jail for serving me, just go there praising God. This, people, is the nature of a true Christian, one who has the Holy Ghost.

This is a portrait of a Holy Ghost filled person, including Jesus. This is the LAMB of God; meek and lowly and obedient, even to death. His disciples followed him, even to death. They had the HOLY GHOST. Elijah had told Elisha IF YOU SEE ME WHEN I GO, my spirit will come on you.

Jesus told his disciples, after you see me GO, return to Jerusalem and my Spirit will come on you….so they received the HOLY GHOST. The Lamb of God.

BUT NOW….WATCH THAT LAMB TURN INTO A RAGING LION..

11 Thessalonians 1: 6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

Look at this…when Jesus is revealed from heaven, he comes in FLAMING FIRE….YES, HERE IS THAT FIRE SPIRIT WHICH ELIJAH MANIFESTED.

Taking vengeance on them that know not God and do not obey the gospel. They shall be punished with everlasting destruction….when he comes to be glorified in his saints. These saints are NOT meek and lowly, allowing others to hit them, spit on them and mock them. What then?

Rev 11: 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

The false teaching of the whore church says these two witnesses are actual 2 men. Nope, that is not what Scripture teaches. The Apostles were the first witness, witnesses the Holy Ghost, in the Book of Acts. But this other witness, is in Rev 11, moving under the SPIRIT OF FIRE. They have FIRE coming out of the mouth, OR THE WORDS THEY SPEAK.

With these words, they torment folks who live after the flesh, or earth.

They are not told to turn the other cheek. They are told, If any man will hurt them, fire coming out of their mouth will DEVOUR their enemies, as Elijah did. Spirit of fire. ….this is not a meek and lowly spirit. It is full of vengeance and punishment on evil folks.

How do I know this is not just 2 men but a whole group, here:

Psalm 149: 4 For the Lord taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.

5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.

6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;

7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the Lord.

God has beautified the MEEK, (those who had the Holy Ghost) with SALVATION. Beautified signifies an immortal body. These people, all the saints of God, have a two-edged sword in their hand to execute VENGEANCE and punishments on the people. They bind their kings with chains and their nobles with fetters of iron and execute on them the judgment written in the Book of the Lord.

Now that is no meek and lowly spirit of a Lamb. It is a raging, powerful, devouring spirit of a LION. This is the LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. It is Jesus Christ and all his true people, who are now filled with the baptism of FIRE. In Joel 2 it proves these are two different baptisms, at two different times, to two different groups of people = the two witnesses. Glory to God.

Here is a description of the Lion Jesus:

Rev 19: 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

He doth judge and MAKE WAR. HIS EYES A FLAME OF FIRE. Clothed with a vesture dipped in blood.

Out of his mouth goes a sharp sword, with-which to SMITE THE NATIONS. He rules them with that rod of iron that we saw in Psalm 149. Now this is surely not a meek lamb is it? No way. This one has a spirit of FIRE; not the holy ghost.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

This raging Lion now takes the beast kingdom and cast it alive into a lake of FIRE. The remnant is SLAIN with the sword coming out of his MOUTH = WORDS THAT HE SPEAKS.

This is no meek and lowly lamb. This is a raging Lion.

Rev 18: 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Here these witnesses with fire coming out their mouths burn this whore church with fire and bring the plagues on her, as told in Psalm 149….this honour have all his saints.

One last scripture proving this returning Jesus is not a Lamb but a roaring Lion:

Isaiah 63King James Version (KJV)

63 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.

2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?

3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

The day of vengeance is in his heart when he returns in flaming fire to redeem his chosen people, the adoption, the redemption of their bodies = glorification.

The Lamb has become a raging LION.

Amen.

1Sam2:; 30 Wherefore the Lord God of Israel saith, I said indeed that thy house, and the house of thy father, should walk before me for ever: but now the Lord saith, Be it far from me; for them that honour me I will honour, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed. 
31 Behold, the days come, that I will cut off thine arm, and the arm of thy father’s house, that there shall not be an old man in thine house. 
32 And thou shalt see an enemy in my habitation, in all the wealth which God shall give Israel: and there shall not be an old man in thine house for ever. 
33 And the man of thine, whom I shall not cut off from mine altar, shall be to consume thine eyes, and to grieve thine heart: and all the increase of thine house shall die in the flower of their age.

From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 (Original Message) Sent: 7/26/2006 1:59 PM
~~ Whose Word is in your mouth? ~~ By: Jo Smith — July 26, 2006

De 18:13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. De 18:14 For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

De 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

De 18:16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. 18:17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.

De 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. De 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

De 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Notice verse 18. God promised to raise up a prophet from among their brethren, which means he would be a man just like them. He would be from among these Jewish people. He will be a prophet like unto Moses. But what is so significant about this prophet? God said, I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.

So, who is this speaking of? Let the Word of God reveal it to you:

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

Now see that it is verified here in John 14, that God the Father put these words into Jesus’ mouth. So it was Jesus whom Moses prophesied would come and have God’s Word in his mouth. This is how Jesus could speak as if it were God himself speaking, for He knew that it was God’s Word He was speaking. He said I speak not of myself, meaning not from my own thoughts.

So now, watch this: Acts 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

See here that Peter told the people to hearken to MY WORDS. So how could Peter say hearken to MY WORDS? Because he knew, just as Jesus had known, that he was speaking God’s Word. He knew that Jesus had spoken God’s Word. He knew that God had put HIS words into the mouth of Jesus. He knew that he was also speaking the same Words which came out of the mouth of Jesus. So he knew he could say the same thing: the words I speak are NOT mine, but the Lord’s who sent me.

These same words are SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE. They are the Words of God, which He put into the mouth of Jesus to give to us. Peter then had these same Words of God in his mouth. He spoke only the true Word of God.

John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.

Now this proves that it was Jesus whom Moses spoke of in the law and the prophets.

So we see then that Peter could say the same thing which Jesus said, the words I speak are not mine, but the one who sent me. We find that Paul said he taught them only what was written in the law and prophets. So Paul was also speaking these same words of God.

All the prophets said this is the Word of the LORD. John said the revelation of Jesus was given to him by God. He said it was a revelation given to Jesus by God. So I am asking each one who reads this message, check to see whose words are you speaking? Who put their words into your mouth? If it is not the truth which is WRITTEN in God’s Word, then it is Satan’s words you are speaking and believing. Can you truly say, the words I speak are not mine, but the Lord’s who sent me? If not, then you need to stop speaking, pray and allow God to put his words into your heart.

Each message I write or speak, I always pray first for God to put his words into my mouth and heart and let it be just exactly as He would speak it. I fully believe He does just this.

If I cannot go to the Word of God and READ you what I am saying, then it is not God’s Word, for if it is God’s Word, it will be WRITTEN in His Book.

Which Book can you place your full confidence into and say, this is the Word of God? If you do not have a Written Word, which you can call the absolute truth of God, then you have nothing with which to prove a thing. Then you do not even know yourself if it is true or not.

God said prove all things and hold fast to that which is good. Only the truth is good. The truth is Written in God’s Book. Do you have God’s Book? If not, then how can you expect to ever know any truth? If you think that the Book you read has errors in it, is full of contradictions, then you have absolutely nothing in which you can place your faith. You cannot possibly even know any truth. If even one thing you say or believe crosses even one verse of Scripture, then know that it is wrong. You have the wrong interpretation of that verse. If it is truly God’s Word, then it cannot have error in it. Do you really think the people of today, who do not know the original languages, know more about what is true than the men who DID know both languages and DID have the anointing of God to rightly interpret the Word? If you cannot believe that God watched over His own Word and gave it to us perfect, then you are denying the true Power of God.

So check out every doctrine you believe. Is it God’s Word, did God put this into your mouth and mind, or did some church, some preacher, some theologian or scholar put these things into your mouth? Whose Word are you speaking? Whose Word do you believe? It is of utmost importance that you get this straight. Your eternal life depends upon believing the TRUTH. It depends upon loving and obeying the TRUTH. If you do not have the truth, then how can you know and love and obey the TRUTH?

I pray this will help someone to check your heart, your beliefs, and find the real truth. If not, then you will die believing a lie and be damned. Is it WRITTEN? In what Book? Do you have a Book you can put your full faith in? If not, you need to seek God while He may be found.

Holy Spirit is God

I will guess that even when shown proof of Scriptures proving that when the apostles referred to the Holy Spirit, they referred to God, that even plain and clear Scriptures stating it perfectly, the confused and lost with still not see.

Acts 5:3, 4 – “But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.” (KJV)

See? Obvious proof that lying to the Holy Ghost (Spirit) is lying to God.

John 20:28 – “And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.” (KJV)

1 John 5:20 – “And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” (KJV)

Titus 2:13 – “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;” (KJV)

Here, Jesus is called LORD (kurios) and Thomas called Him God (theos), and John again called Jesus “the true God.” Not only is Jesus the Son of God, He is also “one” with God, the only true God, eternal and co-equal and not independant of the Father.

1 Timothy 3:16 – “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” (KJV)

Now, we know. The Scriptures boldly state that the Holy Ghost, is God. Jesus is God, the Holy Spirit is God and the Father is God. Three in one God. Therefore, only “one” God remains.

They&nbsp; shall call his name Emmanuel<br><br>The erroneous teaching that the baby Jesus is Emmanuel has caused everyone to miss the real truth here, which God wants everyone to know.&nbsp; You need to know this truth.&nbsp; When you allow Scripture to teach you instead of man teaching you, then truth can come forth and set you free from lies.<br><br>Mat 1: 18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together , she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example , was minded to put her away privily. <br>20 But while he thought on these things, behold , the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying , Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. <br>22 Now all this was done , that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying , <br>23 Behold , a virgin shall be with child , and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is , God with us. 24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.<br><br>Notice verse 21.&nbsp; Realize that an angel is speaking TO Joseph here.&nbsp; Realize also that the word, ‘thou’ means YOU.&nbsp; The angel said to Joseph, YOU shall call his name JESUS, for HE, JESUS, shall save his people from their sins.<br><br>Notice this did not say save his people in their sins, but FROM their sins.&nbsp; Who did it say he would save?&nbsp; His People.&nbsp; So who is his people?&nbsp; The ones he saves.&nbsp; How simple this is and yet everyone is missing it and changing God’s word to mean something entirely different.&nbsp; They even totally miss who his people is, saying it is a natural Jewish people, no matter how sinful they are.&nbsp; Nothing could be further from the truth.&nbsp; But this has to be carefully laid out to people, one word at a time, for they have no anointing from God teaching them.&nbsp; If they read the word at all, they just skim over it so fast none of it sinks in.<br><br>OK, so we see that Joseph was to call the baby’s name, Jesus.&nbsp; We see that Jesus was to save HIS people FROM their sins.<br>Keep this in mind and read on.<br>Verse 22… All of that, the above, birth of Jesus, was done so that something ELSE could be done.&nbsp; What else?&nbsp; The fulfillment of the prophecy in Isaiah that a virgin would be with child and bring forth a son… AND…THEY…not You…shall call his name Emmanuel. <br><br>Emmanuel means God with us, hence the false doctrine that Mary gave birth to a god; that her baby was god.<br>Such wild twisting of God’s Holy word and truth!&nbsp; Stop listening to these false teachings and get into the King James Word of God and study and allow God to teach you his truth.&nbsp; If you believe a lie and receive not a love for the truth you will be sent a strong delusion and die lost.<br>What is that great delusion?&nbsp; It is that a human baby, Jesus, was God.<br><br>Now go back and carefully read down to this point.&nbsp; Jesus shall save his people from their sins, and THEY shall call his name Emmanuel.&nbsp; Who was to call his name Emmanuel?&nbsp; Not Joseph and Mary.&nbsp; It did not say YOU shall call his name Emmanuel.&nbsp; It said THEY.&nbsp; They who?&nbsp; The people that Jesus saved from their sins.<br><br>The ONLY people who can call his name Emmanuel, is the SAVED PEOPLE, which are the only ones who are HIS PEOPLE.&nbsp; Now why is this?&nbsp; It is because only the saved-from-sins people have God with them.&nbsp; We saved people are the only ones who have that Christ in us the hope of glory.&nbsp; This Christ in us is the Emmanuel.&nbsp; This Christ in us is God with us.&nbsp; This Christ is the child which the virgin, Jesus, bore.<br>God is not with sinners.&nbsp; Christ is not in sinners.&nbsp; Sinners are not his people.&nbsp; Sinners are not saved people, so saved people are not sinners.<br><br>How Satan has used religious folks to send out his evil message that Jesus cannot save us FROM our sins and that all saved people are STILL IN THEIR SINS.<br><br>Jesus is the virgin who was with child.&nbsp; We are his children.&nbsp; He was with child, mothering us.&nbsp; He brought us forth.&nbsp; Not the old person, but a new creation in Christ Jesus.&nbsp; We are baptized into the body of Christ.&nbsp; So then Christ takes up his abode in us. This Christ in us is the Emmanuel, or God with us.<br>How else are you going to have God with you?&nbsp; The human man, Jesus, is not here in person.&nbsp; So that baby in Mary’s arms was not God; not Emmanuel; not God with anyone.&nbsp; His Holy Ghost sent back into our hearts as we receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, is this God with us.<br>Praise my God for this glorious revelation and truth.<br><br>By: Jo Smith&nbsp; ~~ Oct. 29, 2010<br><br><br><br><br>

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551 (Original Message) Sent: 6/26/2007 5:59 PM
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 (Original Message) Sent: 5/29/2006 8:09 PM
This message is in answer the the message Coffeman wrote on contradictions in the KJV. He claimed there are contradictions between Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9. So, In this message I show the truth of this matter and PROVE there is no contradiction in these verses.
~ Ears which hear not ~ By: Jo Smith *** May 29, 2006

One of the reasons most people do not and cannot understand God’s Word is because they are strictly carnal minded. The carnal mind is not subject to the things of God, indeed cannot be. So when you see people who claim the Word of God is full of contradictions, rest assured that it is the person who is in error and not God’s Word.

Now we have those who claim that between Acts 9: 7 and Acts 22: 9, there is a contradiction. Let’s just examine this in LIGHT of God’s Word, and not from their darkened carnal mind.

First, know that in the Scriptures there are more than one kind of ‘hearing’. One hearing is when someone is deaf naturally. The other is when the person is deaf spiritually. There are two different kinds of ‘hearing’ and ‘seeing’ in Scripture.

Let’s lay a foundation for this teaching: Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

Now see that Jesus told them there are some who see but do not see. Contradiction? Of course not. It is spiritual talk. He said there are some who hear but do not understand. So, he proved right there that UNDERSTANDING was the kind of hearing he means. A person can certainly ‘hear’ sounds, such as if one says to you, go over there. You heard those sounds which make up the English words, Go over there. But did you UNDERSTAND what was meant? No. You do not understand where over there is. So it means actually nothing to you.

Matt. 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

13:15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and should understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

13:16 But blessed [are] your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

Now in the above Verses, Jesus fully explains this principal of hearing but not understanding and seeing but not really seeing (perceiving or understanding). He said their ears are dull of hearing. Is he saying they cannot hear sounds? NO. This is not what he meant. He meant they are carnal minded and cannot HEAR spiritually, or understand truth.

Then Jesus said blessed are your eyes, for they SEE; and your ears, for they HEAR.

So, who are the blessed? They are the ones to whom God giveth understanding of the Word. These blessed ones can understand things spiritually. This is the kind of hearing and seeing we are dealing with in Scripture.

He said they hear, but do not hear. They see, but do not see. Contradiction? Only to those who have ears which do not hear and eyes which cannot see. These are the people who claim there are contradictions in God’s Word, the KJV. They think this because they can only read with a carnal mind. They cannot hear truth. They cannot see truth. So to them it is lies. But it is their own darkened mind which they are hearing.

Now for more proof that Scriptural hearing is understanding: Luke 2:43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not [of it].

2:44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day’s journey; and they sought him among [their] kinsfolk and acquaintance.

2:45 And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.

2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.

2:47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.

Now the above is not telling us that Jesus could hear sounds. It is saying he understood what the doctors were saying. They were astonished at his UNDERSTANDING, not the fact that his natural ears could ‘hear’ sounds!

People, quit being babies in your own understanding. Grow up! Ask God to give you a spiritual mind so you can understand truth. Your soul depends on knowing and loving truth.

Acts 28:25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,

28:26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:

28:27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and [that] they will hear it.

Now don’t you see that Paul taught the very same thing here? He said those Jews could ‘hear’ sounds, but could not HEAR. This meant they could not understand Spiritual things. They were strictly carnal minded. Then he said the gospel would be sent to the Gentiles and they would ‘HEAR’ it. This meant that the Gentiles would be able to HEAR spiritual, or understand.

Luke 14:35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; [but] men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Now is that saying if you have natural ears to let yourself hear sounds? Of course not. He is saying if you have ears, listen and HEAR spiritual truth. This hearing means to understand. It does not mean to catch sounds on your eardrums. (I must spell this out for the ignorant, who have ears which are dull of hearing.)

Rev. 1:3 Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand.

Now that verse is telling that it is blessed if one can hear, or understand, the words of this prophecy. It does not mean if you can catch the sound when someone reads it out loud to you.

Rev. 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Now if one has a natural ear, does he have to be told to hear with it? No. He is telling us to understand the things one reads in the Word. It is saying if you have a spiritual mind, then you can ‘hear’ or understand these things. If you cannot understand, then it proves you have a carnal mind, which is not subject to the things of God.

Now with this good foundation laid, let us look at the supposedly ‘contradiction’ In Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9.

Acts 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,

9:2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord [said] unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

Now I have shown without a doubt that some hearing is on the natural eardrums, and other times God is speaking of understanding spiritual things. So that is all which is involved here. Those men with Paul heard sounds on their eardrums. They saw light with their natural eyes. But they did not understand a thing which was going on there in the spiritual realm.

Their natural ear drums caught sound, but they did not ‘HEAR’, or understand the voice which talked with Paul. Only Paul had this understanding. Only Paul was catching the spiritual truth being revealed here. Only the spiritual minded will understand this message. The darkened, carnal minds, seeking to disprove God’s Word, will go on in their darkness of night, spiritually. They will not come to God, Light, Truth, that they might understand, or hear with their spiritual ears, and see with spiritual eyes, so they can be healed and saved.

See, that it said they heard a voice, but then Paul said they heard not the voice of him that spoke to Paul. They actually heard sounds, but they did not hear the voice speaking to Paul. This was in the spirit. They did not ‘hear’ Jesus’ voice speaking to Paul, even though they did heard the sound of voice. They heard not with understanding what Jesus was saying. This was spoken only to Paul. Jesus can speak right to me, in the midst of others, being present, and they will not hear it. It is in the spirit.

So, all I can say to the one who rejoiced, set up !!!! Marks of excitement, thinking he had proven the KJV a lie, it is you are the liar. It is you who is deceived and in darkness, having ears which hear not and eyes which see not. It was only your own darkened mind which thought these things were contradictions. I have proven to anyone who can ‘hear’ that none of the things you mentioned were contradictions, but only misunderstanding on your part. He that hath ears, let him HEAR what the Spirit is saying. He that hath eyes, let him see.

Blessed are the eyes which see what ye see and the ears which HEAR what the Spirit says.

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Do you believe? or pretend to believe?  Test it by the Word.  When we truly BELIEVE the Word, we will act upon it OUT OF LOVE.   We can give to the poor and it count for nothing.  We can help those in need and it count for nothing IF we do not do it out of LOVE.    One can do these things to be seen of man and receive glory from man.  This is of no value from or to God.   When we truly BELIEVE the Word, we will do as it says.  When God said is there any sick among, let him call for the elders of the church and let them anoint the sick with oil, and pray for him.  The prayer of faith shall save or heal the sick and his sins shall be forgiven him.   Do we truly believe?  Or do we call for a doctor and his poison medicine?  Do we truly BELIEVE?  If we do, we will do it Gods way.  Call for prayer and wait on God to do the healing. Where are any believers? Jo

~~ Does God? ~`

Does God give his children vision? I mean other than a mental vision of something to do for him? Let’s just look into the word of God and let God tell us the answer. There are many of Satan’s missionaries out there today who are trying to destroy all of the mighty workings of the Spirit of God upon and to his children of today. Most of them will tell us that these wonderful ‘gifts’ are no longer valid. They say these precious things of the Holy Ghost are not for us today. I say they are workers of Satan and his words they do teach.

Anything that God ever did, He will still do today. He never changes. If He ever healed by just prayer and faith, that is still His way today. If He ever gave the Apostles and Prophets visions, He still does that today. If he ever gave spiritual dreams and interpretations, He still does that today. Today, if you can hear his VOICE harden not your heart as in the provocation. Listen and obey him today and He will give you more. Reject these precious workings of the Holy Ghost, and call it of the devil, and God will never give you any of his glory.

Ac 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, Ac 10:2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

Ac 10:3 He saw in a vision

evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.

Ac 10:4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. Ac 10:5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:

This man, Cornelius, did not even have the Holy Ghost at this time, yet God gave him a vision of an angel who came and told him exactly what to do.

Now watch:

Ac 10:9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: Ac 10:10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

Ac 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

Ac 10:12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

Ac 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat

.

Ac 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

Ac 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. Ac 10:16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

Three times Peter saw this same vision in which God told him to rise and kill and eat all manner of animals. Not so, Lord. I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. See? How many of you today would say the very same thing, concerning this vision? Huh? See, God had already commanded them NOT TO EAT OF THE UNCLEAN ANIMALS, yet here a vision is, telling Peter to kill and EAT all of these unclean animals.

Was it of God or was Peter just a proud, delusional person? Think on this. How do you really believe about the NT workings of God with his people? Was that a true VISION from God or a delusion from Satan?

By: Jo Smith Aug. 31, 2008