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Freeborn,
I was thnking because nobody can explain how Jesus was the WORD….And I explained that the WORD came out of GOD’s mouth….And then it dawned on me…Jesus was the breath of life…..


Genesis 2:7 (KJV)
⁷ And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.



Genesis 6:17 (KJV)
¹⁷ And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die.



Genesis 7:15 (KJV)
¹⁵ And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.



Job 33:4 (KJV)
⁴ The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.


There is alot more in the Bible about this.. I need to study it out more….

What do you think?

Tweety

Date Posted：04/25/2011 11:34 PMCopy HTML~~ We Beheld His Glory

~~John 14: 14.  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Now, go back and read that again.  It did not SAY THAT THE WORD IS JESUS.  JESUS IS NOT THE WORD.It did not say Jesus was in the beginning with God.  It said the Word was.Rev. 3: 14.  And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; these things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;Jesus was the beginning. 

He said so himself.  He was the beginning of a new creation of God..that of creating men into the likeness of God = glorified.  In Jesus was the Word.  In the beginning. In Jesus. In Jesus was the Word.Rev. 1: 8.  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Now see that Jesus said he is the beginning?  But this was at the resurrection.  This was the beginning of the New creation of God.  This was second man Adam which was made a quickening  SPIRIT.Now as for the ‘FLESH’ which the Word was made, it is the very same flesh which he said we must  EAT in order to have life.

Now you are assuming this is the human man Jesus, right?  Of course you are.  So then, how are we going to EAT that human flesh?  Tell me that.  How are you going to get a bite of his flesh and eat it.  How are you going to get some of his blood and drink it.  If you think it means the human man which Mary gave birth to, then you must find a way to  EAT THAT HUMAN MAN AND DRINK HIS HUMAN BLOOD.

Remember Jesus said God is a  SPIRIT.  HE ALSO DECLARED THAT A SPIRIT HAS NO FLESH, BONES, OR BLOOD.  So that gives us another problem.John 1: 14.  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of theFather,) full of grace and truth.Now read this read carefully.  Don’t just take what that fake church told you it is saying.  It will damn your soul to believe a lie.  Get the truth.  Don’t trust anyone to save your soul.  Get this truth for yourself….The  WORD  was made FLESH. 

Now this is the FLESH we must eat to have eternal life.If it means Jesus’ human body flesh, then you must find a way to take a bite of his human body and chew it up and swallow it.  Now that is what he said,  unless you  EAT  MY FLESH , you have no life in you.  Didn’t he tell us that?Now, ..we beheld his GLORY, Now think about this  GLORY for a bit.Is human flesh GLORY?  Nope, sure is not.He was a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.  He came here is the likeness of sinful  FLESH.  Is that glory?  Nope.His image was marred more than any man.  Was that  GLORY?  Nope.He came here as a servant.  Isa. 42.  Was that glory?  Nope.When we see him, there is no BEAUTY that we should desire him.  Is that  GLORY?  nope.He was beaten and killed.  Was that  GLORY?  nope.He went into hell.  Was that  GLORY? nope.Is this the Jesus of the Scriptures?  Of course it is.Then what was the  GLORY?  Let the Word tell us.

John 17 1.  These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
 2.  As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
 3.  And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
 4.  I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
 5.  And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.Now here Jesus asks the Father, at the time of his crucifixion, to glorify him.  See then that he did not have the glory while here in human flesh.V5– “glorify me with thine own self with the  GLORY I had with thee before the world was”.So he is asking for the GLORY of his Father to be given to him.  How could this be?Romans 1 1.  Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
 2.  (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
 3.  Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
 4.  And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:Now we are getting to the truth.v1………the gospel of  GOD,v3—–concerning  HIS  SON  JESUS  CHRIST OUR Lord.  which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh. Now this is his human flesh.  Was this  GLORY?  nope.  If so, why did he pray just before his death, for the Father to glorify Him?v4– Declared to be the Son of God with power……by theRESURRECTION  FROM THE DEAD.Acts 13: 28.  And though they found no cause of death in him, yet desired they Pilate that he should be slain.
 29.  And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.
 30.  But God raised him from the dead:
 31.  And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.
 32.  And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,
 33.  God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. ( now this clearly says that the day God beget Jesus as his son was the day he raised him from the dead).
 34.  And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David.
 35.  Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.  (Jesus was corruptible)
 36.  For David, after he had served his own generation by the will of God, fell on sleep, and was laid unto his fathers, and saw corruption:
 37.  But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.  (because God raised him up).v30–God raised Jesus from the dead.v31–They beheld him many days.v33–God fulfilled the promise of Psm 2, Thou are my Son, this day have I  BEGOTTEN THEE.  When?  Read the rest of the verse……in that he hath raised up Jesus again. Now here is your two witnesses in Scripture saying that the day God beget Jesus as his Son was the Day he raised him from the DEAD.If you deny this, then you must call both Peter and Paul a lie, as well as this KJV which says that they told this.Peter declared that God fulfilled Psm. 2, thou are my Son, this day have I begotten you,  in the day God raised up Jesus from the  DEAD.Paul said the same thing in Romans 1:3.Want some more proof?o.k.  Rev. 1: 5.  And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and thefirst begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,Now again we have Scripture declaring that the day Jesus was  BEGOTTEN was the day he was raised up from the dead.And there are more… for now lets just go back to John 1: 14…we beheld his  GLORY, as the GLORY of the only  BEGOTTEN of the Father.So when was this glory beheld?  The day of the resurrection.  this is the Day God beget Jesus Christ as His only Begotten Son.  This is the day the curse of human flesh was done away with and the GLORY of glorified flesh given to Jesus.Now notice not one word has been said declaring that the day Jesus was born in a stable was the day God beget him as his Son.  If you think this is the day he was begotten, go find that verse and quote it here as I have done this.  Not one words declares that being born in a stable into human flesh is  GLORY.GLORY —FIED   FLESH.Now there is your answer.  There is the  FLESH  the WORD was made.  They beheld it many days. We are still beholding it.  We are still  EATING it.  If not there is no life.Now don’t just scoff at me——— get in here and study this.  Read it.  Ask God for understanding and truth.If you refuse this truth, God will send you to hell.  Now you don’t need that.  Jesus’ first man Adam body is not the FLESH  the Word became. His WORDS are  SPIRIT….AND THEY ARE LIFE…….HIS WORDS ARE GOD…..HIS WORDS ARE THE FLESH WE MUST EAT…HIS GLORY WAS THE GLORY-FIED  BODY.Immortality is the GLORY.Luke 14: 26.  Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?Now this verse proves that Jesus suffered BEFORE he entered into his GLORY.  So it proves he did not have the GLORY before his resurrection.  So the Word and made into FLESH which had  GLORY.  This is the resurrected Son of God.God bless all who read this.  Let their understanding be enlightened.(cont.)

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Date Posted：04/25/2011 11:37 PM

July 11, 2002

The Word Was Made Flesh

Luke 4:4——-Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

John 6:27—Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

v33—For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

Here we see that ‘meat�?and ‘bread�?in the word are synomous. Jesus said he gives life unto the world. So, that is showing some ‘life�?other than the life we are born with. For we already have that.

V35-And Jesus said I am the bread of life

v50–This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. This makes it look like he means his death; but it means he gave us his words. His words give us eternal life. His death paid the debt for our sins.

V63–It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life.

Study this chapter carefully. It is wonderful.

To the unlearned, it looks like doubletalk, because it is spiritual. First, Jesus said the bread is my flesh you have to eat to live eternally. They get a picture of having to take a bite off his arm etc. Many left him over this, because they did not understand spiritual talk.

Then he says the flesh profiteth nothing. Now it looks like he reversed what he had just said, that his flesh gave them eternal life. And that is nothing???? Woe, here. What is he saying??? Well, let’s look at it.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the words that I speak are spirit and they are life.

So there, we have it. The WORDS he spoke —-that is spirit——-that is life——-the Word was made flesh—- now it begins to come together… The Word is flesh, but not the body of clay he stood there in. See it??? I hope so. May God help all who read this to receive this great revelation.v53—-Except ye EAT the FLESH of the Son of man, and DRINK his blood, ye have no life in you.

Take a bite of his arm????? Take a sip of his blood, out of his arm???? No Noo No!!!

That is what the carnal mind thinks. But he said the WORDS I speak , that is what I am telling you to eat and drink. How do we eat that??? By studying and receiving the engrafted Word. The truth of it.

So this proves it is not talking of the fleshly body of Jesus. When it says the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, it is talking about the same kind of flesh Jesus said here we were to eat and drink. See it does not mean the man that he was, but the Words, the Spirit in him. The Word became flesh=(words we can take into our souls and live=eternal life—not temporal life) We are still to eat the same flesh today that they ate back then. Do we have the man Jesus here, now to take a bite of, if it means his literal body. But see, he made it plain that he spoke of the message he brought to earth. The word of God.

For this is one of the most misunderstood passages in the Book. And the most important one. For unless you get this right all your understanding will be messed up from now on.

The Words I speak are spirit and they are life. Unless ye eat my flesh, you have no life in you. The word was made flesh. But not carnal flesh. Not flesh that could die. This flesh (spirit—word) was eternal life. Can never die. Praise our glorious God and His Son Jesus Christ, our Lord.

Jesus said pray, “give us this day our daily BREAD.. Now, what was he talking about??? Is he saying to pray for food for our bellies???? No. He is speaking of the Words = revelation of God’s Word.

So, we are to receive something fresh out of God’s Word each day. To grow thereby. Grow in grace and KNOWLEDGE of the Word. Without it, there is no growth.

But, back to our original thought. Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeded out the mouth of God. Is he saying as most people think that we are not to live only by our daily food we eat at our table? No, he is saying we will not have eternal merely by the daily portion of Word we receive.. We must finally get to every word. Understand the whole truth.

11Thes.2:10-12—-because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie; That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

He that endureth unto the end shall be saved. Receive Word each day till you understand and believe all the truth or else be damned. He that putteth his hand to the plough and looketh back is not fit for the kingdom of God.

I hear so many people who think it does not matter if they see it right or not, ——folks, do not be deceived by this misconception. unless you believe the TRUTH you will BELIEVE A lie and be damned. So it is clear that believing it wrong =(a lie) will damn you. Please, don’t take getting the truth lightly. Your soul depends on it.

That is what Jesus meant “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

When he said the Word became flesh and dwelt among, it is not talking about the man Christ Jesus; it is saying Mary conceived in her womb, by the Holy Ghost a human person, Jesus made of a woman, made under the law, made of the seed of David, made in all points like unto his brethern, tempted in all points like unto his brethern, but, the Word that was flesh was the words that was spirit the message inside him.

That fleshly man was not that word . The word inside him was. Jesus , the man, had a mind of his own the was subject to sin and be disobedient just as Adam. Just as we do. He could have sinned, he could have disobeyed, he could have failed, but he did not. If he had failed the word of God would have gone back to God, and our creation would have been lost eternally. But, that kinsman redeemer is still a man, a glorified Son in Heaven. He ever lives to make intercession to God for us.

The word ‘FLESH�?has been so misunderstood in the Word of God, that it is causing many to completely miss the true meaning about one of the most important things in all the Word.

This verse, 1Tim.3:16— is one of those teachings being twisted out of its real meaning by misunderstanding this word ‘flesh�? in it’s Scriptual meaning.

To really understand what is meant by this verse you must first find out what God meant by ‘flesh�? In order to do this, read Romans 8:9—-But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you….

Now it said you are not in the FLESH if Christ be in you. So, is this saying you are not in your human body?? No! Of course not! So what does it mean? Remember, you must find Scriptual answers; Scriptual meanings.

John 6:53—Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the FLESH of the Son of man, and DRINK his BLOOD, ye have no life in you.

v54—Whoso eateth my FLESH, and DRINKETH my BLOOD, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day..

v55—For my FLESH is MEAT indeed, and my BLOOD is DRINK indeed.

v56—He that EATETH my FLESH, and drinketh my BLOOD, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

v57—As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that EATETH me, even he shall live by me.

v58—This is that BREAD which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this BREAD shall live forever.

Now, Jesus told them over and over they (we) must EAT his FLESH and DRINK his BLOOD in order to have eternal life. Do you think that flesh is his human body? If so, how are we going to take and eat his human body? How are we going to get some of his blood from his human body and drink it? Unless you do this, you have no life in you.

Now remember Romans 8 said you are NOT in the flesh if Christ is in you. So here the flesh could not be speaking of your human body; for you surely know that you are still in your body; for if you are not in your body, you would be dead.

Look back at v 6—For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

v7—Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

v8—So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

Now don’t you see, that this could not mean if you are in your human body, you can not please God? For then, how could anyone ever please God? You would have to die and be out of your human body, if that is what he is speaking of.

But, he said he means a MIND. So, then the FLESH is a MIND; A THOUGHT; A WORD. It can be either a carnal MIND or a spiritual MIND. That is the FLESH he is meaning. The FLESH is A MIND. THE KIND OF MIND, THINKING YOU HAVE.

Now, go to John 1:14—And the Word was made FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

So this grace and truth is a MIND. This FLESH is a MIND; WORD.

Now put all that together. It will clearify what is meant by eating his flesh; it means to understand his Word; to read or hear and understand his Word. His Word is his Flesh he said we must eat. Eat = understand; feed off it; take it into our mind. This gives us a spiritual mind which gives us life. See, to be spiritual minded is life; to be carnal minded is death. So, we must EAT his WORDS (FLESH) to have eternal life.

Now, take that and apply it to 1Tim.3:16—–when it said God was manifest in the FLESH, it does not mean Jesus�?human body; it means the Word that He gave us; this was his flesh we are to eat.

So, he manifest God in the Word. God is the Word. The Word is God. The Word was made FLESH and dwelt among us. That is how he was God with us; it was the Word in him. The Word did not die; for indeed it can not. His Word is forever established in Heaven. In the beginning was the Word; this was NOT the human man, Christ Jesus. It was the FLESH of God = His Word; the spiritual mind.

God sent that spiritual mind, the Word, here in his Son, Jesus. That is what Jesus said we must eat to have life; not his human body.

This is the great mystery. This Word, this mind, this FLESH, was justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Now don’t you see, that if it is speaking of the human body of Jesus, it could not have said it was ‘preached unto the Gentiles�? for Jesus had already gone up to Heaven before the Word was preached to Gentiles. What was PREACHED to the Gentiles? The WORD OF GOD; this is the FLESH; this is the BREAD; this is the SPIRITUAL MIND; this is the LIFE; this is the LIGHT.

Don’t you see that he said this is the BREAD? Bread is food. Meat is food. So, if it is something to eat, then eating must mean something other than what we do at our dinner tables. It is feeding our minds. It is reading, taking into our souls and minds the WORD of God. So, the Word is God, the Word is the FLESH we must eat. This is how God was manifest in the FLESH; IT WAS THE WORD.

If you believe it means the man Jesus, when it said God was manifest in the flesh, then please take that concept, of eating his FLESH and teach it and all these Scriptures in this message. When it said the Word was made FLESH, if you think that means the man Jesus, then please explain to us how we are to eat that flesh. For we must eat it in order to have eternal life.

Now all you people using (or rather misusing) 1Tim.3:16— to try to say that Jesus was God, please explain how we are not in our flesh if the Spirit of God is in us. How did that take me out of my body? How are we to eat the body of Jesus? You must find the answer to these verses in the ‘light�?of the flesh meaning Jesus�?human body. Or else, you must come to see that this is not what is meant by saying God was manifest in the flesh. Thy Word, oh God, is forever settled in Heaven. Amen

I did a lot of work tonight to bring you these messages. I did it in hopes that the sincere ones who desire to know the truth of the Word will be able to take these short messages and study them as you have the time and get a full understanding of these things. Having all this together should help open it up. Many time, we read some here then some there; and forget what we read before. Therefore it never becomes clear. But with all this organized together, maybe you can see it. At least I hope so.

John 1:1~~~~In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Now a question for you ~~~~~~~~ What is he speaking of here about in the BEGINNING?

What is the BEGINNING? The BEGINNING of What?

Revelation 22:13~ (Jesus speaking)—- I am Alpha and Omege, the BEGINNING and the end, the FIRST and the LAST. There you have it. I am the BEGINNING. In JESUS WAS THE WORD. Beautiful!!!!!!!!! Now isn’t it???

Revelation 10:9-10-

9And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.

10And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

Jeremiah 15:16-

16Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.

This is the flesh we are supposed to eat. The word, the book.

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This is one of my answers on the Yahoo. question/answer religion section, where I do most of my work. the question was,  If Jesus was God, was heaven without God while Jesus was on earth.  
My answer:

Jesus was not God, nor did he exist before he was born. He was born just like us, only conceived without sex. God sent his Holy Ghost which overshadowed Mary and caused her to conceive a child NOT by putting a seed of god inside Mary…
but
just by being God he can bring forth life any way that he chooses. So he chose this means of bringing a child into the world, which man had nothing to do with.

this child grew in grace and knowledge and favor with God and men. He never sinned and loved God all his life so much that when he was 30 years old and was baptized by John,
God sent the Holy Ghost
and put this Holy Spirit inside JESUS, thus, the VIRGIN of Isa 7 conceived a son of God, inside his heart.
Thus Jesus was a virgin with child; child of the HOly Ghost.

It brought forth the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD, at his resurrection. Romans 1:4.

After this, God took this holy man to heaven, set him on God’s throne and gave this holy man to be our Lord and our God. We are now commanded to worship this Son of God

Then Jesus became the God who puts the Holy Ghost inside us, when we repent and he begets another son of God, inside us.

thus we are a VIRGIN WITH CHILD…CHILD OF THE HOLY GHOST, to be born AGAIN, at our resurrection.

Now if you read all of this, you will have heard the real truth, probably for the first time.

Can you hear it? If so, you too can be a virgin with child of the Holy Ghost, If not, you will never be saved. any of you.

Sorry to say, but they have been shot a bunch of lies. When Jesus said eat my flesh and drink my blood, HE DID NOT MEAN HIS HUMAN BODY OR BLOOD.

That is the great error. since the catholic leaders had no spiritual understanding they made up junk that a cracker turns into the literal human body of Jesus. such deception!

but all the other religions fell for the same kind of error..thinking that Jesus meant his human body. Not for one minute. no one can eat his human body or drink his human blood. He did not mean that for one minute. So it is all grave error.

Eucharist is not even mentioned in any Scripture. It is made up stuff.

Everyone who accepts man’s lies, instead of studying and believing the truth of God’s word, is going to lose their souls.

Now, what flesh did Jesus mean? what blood? This same error leads the Jesus-only folks to declare that Jesus was God because it said his blood.

It did not mean human blood. when it said the word became FLESH, everyone accepts the lie that this means Jesus was the word of God, for the Word of God got into Mary’s womb and came out a human being.

shew! such error! So what flesh did Jesus mean for us to EAT? the same flesh which he ATE to have eternal life.
Yes, believe it or not, Jesus ate the very same flesh which I eat. He drank the same blood which he said for me to drink!

The life is in the BLOOD. watch>>> The words THAT I SPEAK ARE SPIRIT…..AND….THEY…ARE….LIFE.

Get that. JESUS SAID THE WORD I SPEAK IS LIFE.

So life is in the blood. Flesh means FOOD. Jesus ate the Word of God for God fed it to him. Deut 18:18.
Jesus ate the Word of God for his eternal life.
He ate the word, for it is DRINK. Drink that Word of life. It is the River of Life. Drink it. 
Jesus said, Come to me and DRINK and out of your belly shall flow RIVERS of living water.

So you can come to ME and drink the very same water/blood that Jesus gave out = the word of God. I am giving it to you right now. eat it.
Take it and eat it and it will be health to your souls.

Eat the Word of God; it is the same food/flesh, that Jesus himself ate…hence, he said my flesh. MY SPIRITUAL FOOD.

Now any of you take God’s word and prove what you teach and try to prove this wrong. IT CANNOT BE DONE. so flee those carnal lies. if you want eternal life…you must EAT THE WORD OF GOD.

Read these words and understand that GOD can do this to anyone on this earth today.. GOD is not dead….GOD can and will do what he did in the Bible…Do you believe?  Tweety

Jeremiah 1:4-10 (KJV)
⁴ Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
⁵ Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
⁶ Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.
⁷ But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.
⁸ Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the LORD.
⁹ Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.
¹⁰ See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.

Good Morning Group,
Well my mind told me to do a search on the word “grace” in my Bible…. And so I am reading scriptures about Grace.  Let us talk about Noah.. If you ask anyone today, who was Noah in the Bible, all would say the man that made the ark and saved the animals.. But guess what? And I just realized this just now. Everyone is missing the most important message about Noah. People do not realize that Noah had found grace in the sight of GOD.

Genesis 6:8 (KJV)
⁸ But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

Love always,
Tweety

Good Morning Freeborn,
May you be feeling better. I have been reading again. This time very slowly, so I could see if somethings that Enoch said could be lined up with scripture.

<!–EndFragment–>Ok? First of all, Issac asked about the lamb for the burnt offering! Does anyone not understand that Jesus is called the Lamb of GOD? Proof?

<!–EndFragment–>Does anyone see that when Abraham said in Gen. 22:8 that “GOD will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering”? That lamb that God was going to provide HIMSELF was JESUS. Now from again what Abraham said, it proves also what GOD said to Abimelech in a dream when Abraham was in Gerar. God said that Abraham was a prophet. And I did not see that before. So, I did learn something new from reading the other night. Here is the verse proving that Abraham was a prophet of GOD.

Ok, Now that we got that out of the way. Now let us move to another subject, which is the meaning of the name Methuselah. The Hebrew meaning of his name means: “He shall die before the flood or deluge.” Now, you know that Enoch did name his son this? So in naming his son, he was prophezing of the flood that was to come in Noah’s day. Enoch is truly a great person. For the people that come here and read, Enoch was the son of Jared.  Jared was 162 years old when he had Enoch. Please read Gen. 5:18.

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Back in the early 70’s, I was in with a small group of people who had home prayer meetings. We had all left the church system at this time. God had led each of us out of that. We began praying together. At first, we were kind of weak in this matter; but after a while of consistent prayer, we came to have the great power of God each and every time we met together.

We did not try to have a ‘church’ type meeting; but rather we just sat facing each other. We prayed for Jesus to lead us each time. We met almost every day. I fully believe this is how God intends for us to worship.

The Holy Ghost always led us what to do. We each waited for His leadership. It was more wonderful than I could ever describe.

One night we were at a friends home. At first we were all kind of bound down and could not pray. We were all in the same bondage. Then God moved on me and I knew what to do. I stood up [we had all been kneeling] and said out loud, Satan, I rebuke; I refuse to be bound by you. when I said this, The Spirit of the Lord moved on each of us and we began to break forth in great praise and worship. We really had the victory then.

After that we always knew how to have victorious services.
Then at another prayer meeting at this same home, we were all kneeling and praying. Soon after the prayer began, I began to see a vision. In the vision I was kneeling at the foot of the cross. Jesus was hanging on it. I was kneeling with several other women. We were all crying.

I felt this great love coming from him to me. I felt compelled to look up. As I looked up, Jesus was looking straight out. But when I was looking up at him, he looked down at me. He had the most beautiful eyes, so full of the sweetest love I have ever seen. They were so tender looking; so full of love.

It was just so awesome to feel, that I just looked back down. But then, I looked up again; again he was looking straight out. But as I looked up, he again looked down at me with that same tender look of compassion and love.

This happened several more times. It was thundering and lightening and misty dark all around us. He had black hair.

This was an open vision; it lasted quite a long while; not just a momentary thing. I looked at this vision for a good five minutes or so.

After the vision lifted, I came back to my present surroundings and told the others of the vision I had experienced. Every one of them told of a vision they had each had. Each one of us had experienced a different vision of Jesus. Each vision was similar; but different.

It was quite amazing. The glory and joy of this wonderful Spiritual visit is beyond description.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551 (Original Message) Sent: 11/12/2006 9:08 PM
<NOBR>Joh 6:50</NOBR> This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die.
<NOBR>Joh 6:51</NOBR> I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
<NOBR>Joh 6:52</NOBR> The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
<NOBR>Joh 6:53</NOBR> Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
<NOBR>Joh 6:54</NOBR> Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
<NOBR>Joh 6:55</NOBR> For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.
<NOBR>Joh 6:56</NOBR> He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
<NOBR>Joh 6:57</NOBR> As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
<NOBR>Joh 6:58</NOBR> This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
<NOBR>Joh 6:59</NOBR> These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
<NOBR>Joh 6:60</NOBR> Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
<NOBR>Joh 6:61</NOBR> When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?

Look at verse 52. This is where you are. thinking that Jesus meant his earthly body. this is what they also thought. what did it do to them? drove them away from Jesus, for they were carnal minded and could not see that he means spiritual flesh, the Word of God, which God had put into the mouth of Jesus.

will you also go away? will you murmur at it? does it offend you? can you EAT THE FLESH OF JESUS?

IF SO HOW?

YOU MUST EAT IT, HIS FLESH, TO HAVE SALVATION. can you eat it? How?

v.50– This is the Bread, which you must eat. this bread came down from heaven?. What is this bread? Can you EAT IT? Is it his body, from Mary? Is it the flesh from David? What is this bread which you must EAT?

v51? I am this living bread which you must eat. What is this BREAD? Can you EAT IT? HOW? STUDY THIS SCRIPTURE. You must. You must deal with this, for you must EAT HIS FLESH AND DRINK HIS BLOOD. CAN YOU DO IT? You better get this right, for if not, you will not have eternal life.

Now if you say, this is the man Jesus, then go find him and take a bite of his flesh. his arm, his leg, his stomach, what part will you choose to EAT? How will you get a drink of his blood?

v52. are you a Jew? are you striving about this same question? Is this the flesh the Word became? How can you eat it. How can this man give us his FLESH to EAT? do you know? they thought he was speaking of his own human flesh. that is what you think also.

where does this leave you?

do you care? do you have an answer? was he speaking of his own human flesh? If not, why are you saying then that the Word was his own human flesh? Is this god which we must eat?

v53… unless you EAT THE FLESH AND DRINK THE BLOOD OF THE SON OF MAN, YOU HAVE NO LIFE IN YOU.

Was he speaking of the son of Mary? was he speaking of himself? His own body? if so, how are you going to eat his body and drink his blood? Don’t say this is symbols either. Jesus did not say so. those jews, which you think knew truth, said he was speaking of his body. his human body. that is what you think also.

you say this is the flesh which the word became. so go EAT IT. drink the blood of Jesus. Eat the body of the second person of the godhead. drink the blood of the second person of the godhead.

Now is that Scriptural or not? If so, show me that verse. I am showing you what I teach quoting Scripture. you do the same. for your own sake. It will not effect me if you do or not. I already have the revelation from God. It matches the Word exactly. I do not add to it, take away from it or change it.

v55. He makes it clear. He is driving this thing home. He is not letting it go. Neither am I. he said, My FLESH is MEAT indeed.

he said My blood is DRINK indeed.

so can you eat his flesh? can you drink his blood? my flesh is MEAT. The Word is the MEAT. the Word is the flesh.

where does this leave you? have you any understanding?

I want you to deal with this. if not, you care not for truth. and remember, Jesus said this, not me. He said that UNLESS YOU EAT MY FLESH AND DRINK MY BLOOD YOU HAVE NO LIFE IN YOU.

v58.. this is the bread which came down from heaven. what was it?

Jesus said that, not JO.
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Ephes. 4:4-6
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; [5] One Lord, one faith, one baptism, [6] One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

So you think the word ONE here means a digit huh? In other words, you think it is counting how many there are? Have you never looked up the word ONE ? If you are to teach, you must learn to look up words. for words have more than 1 meaning.

So let’s just see which meaning is meant here. Always remember to interpret Scripture with another Scripture, else you are found to be the interpreter yourself, and then you become a private interpreter, which is forbidden.

Did you seek the meaning of Ephes. 4:4-6 from another Scripture? Or did you just think that you found something to put me down with? I think it is very obvious what the answer is.

Ok. But does Tweety want any truth? that is the question I am concerned about. I know bill does not. but what about tweety? are you too hung up on dakes to get into any truth?

Now: Is he saying that God is just 1 person? that father is just 1 person? that son is just 1 person. that holy ghost is just 1 person?

he used acts 1:1-4 without even realizing that this is saying that 120 people all had 1 mind and 1 spirit and 1 accord. How can this be? It is impossible, with his kind of thinking. all 120 people could not have just 1 mind, now could they? is that sensible or what?

So, let the Word of God interpret Ephes. 4: 4-6. (not bill)

One body:

Ok, Paul, speak.

<NOBR>1co 12:12</NOBR> For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
<NOBR>1co 12:13</NOBR> For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (all of us got into 1 body)
<NOBR>1co 12:14</NOBR> For the body is not one member, but many.
<NOBR>1co 12:15</NOBR> If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
<NOBR>1co 12:16</NOBR> And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?
<NOBR>1co 12:17</NOBR> If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
<NOBR>1co 12:18</NOBR> But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
<NOBR>1co 12:19</NOBR> And if they were all one member, where were the body?
<NOBR>1co 12:20</NOBR> But now are they many members, yet but one body.

Aw. now it is coming clear. all 120 in 1 mind.

as the body is ONE, AND YET IS MANY, SO IS CHRIST.

v12—many are one body. many members, yet one body. so also is Christ, which is the image of the invisible God.

many are one. one body, yet many members. many are one. v 20. many members, yet but one body.

another witness;

<NOBR>Ro 12:4</NOBR> For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:
<NOBR>Ro 12:5</NOBR> So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

Paul, you are into cultism, for sure. saying that there are many who are one. 1,1,1, one way to God. 1, 1,, 1, many are 1.

we, being many, are ONE body in Christ.

1 body, 1 member, 1 God. 1 mind. no pluralism. no sire. we are ALL ONE. we are not a plural body. we are 1 body. we are a single body. so is Christ. so is God. Christ, the image of God.

man the image of Christ. 1,1,1,. one, one, one. many are one. one body. one Lord above us all. One God, yet many are this one. many members, yet just one body. yet man does not like this at all. no sire. we are many, but not God. no sire. he is just 1. 1 man is god. no, take that back. 3 men are god….but??///// 3 makes it plural………upps. now where does that leave us trinity folks who declare that god is single and not pluralism. that is a problem, for 3 is plural. oh my. wretched man that I am, who shall deliver them from this delusion.?

any more witnesses to this:; Ok one more.:

<NOBR>Ga 3:26</NOBR> For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
<NOBR>Ga 3:27</NOBR> For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
<NOBR>Ga 3:28</NOBR> There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

No wonder folks don’t like Paul. paul u is lunitic.

we are ALL 1? HUH? ARE YOU SURE? COULD NOT BE. WE ARE NOT PLURAL.

that is not good arithimatic. many are 1.

Ye are all one. many are one. no pluralism. it is single. many are 1 body.

God is 1 body.

who you want to teach you? many is not 1, in good arithimatic. yet in Scripture, it is facts. it is singular. it is not plural. God is single, God is one. many are one. we are all one. 120 were one.

Case closed. case proven.

Thank you, brother Paul. You are a good lawyer. Thanks for coming to Jo’s rescue. She is about to be sent to the choping block.

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551 Sent: 11/13/2006 4:36 PM
<NOBR>Jer 15:16</NOBR> Thy WORDS WERE FOUND, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.
<NOBR>Eze 3:1</NOBR> Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel.
<NOBR>Eze 3:2</NOBR> So I opened my mouth, and he caused me to eat that roll.
<NOBR>Eze 3:3</NOBR> And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I eat it; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness.
<NOBR>Re 10:9</NOBR> And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
<NOBR>Re 10:10</NOBR> And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
<NOBR>Re 10:11</NOBR> And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.

This is Scripture interpreting Scripture.

Until you find Scripture which reveals what the other is saying, you are not interpreting right.

When you say one means 1, find a verse proving this, or you are changing the Scripture to suit your own ideas. If you add words which another person added first, you are just as guilty as that other person is. You are partakers of his evil deeds.
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I will now pick back up with more of this message:  (part two)

[THE BIRTH OF GRACE]

Gen 40

16 When the chief baker saw that the interpretation was good, he said unto Joseph, I also was in my dream, and, behold, I had three white baskets on my head: 17 and in the uppermost basket there was of all manner of bakemeats for Pharaoh; and the birds did eat them out of the basket upon my head. 18 And Joseph answered and said, This is the interpretation thereof: The three baskets are three days: 19 yet within three days shall Pharaoh lift up thy head from off thee, and shall hang thee on a tree; and the birds shall eat thy flesh from off thee.

20 And it came to pass the third day, which was Pharaoh’s birthday, that he made a feast unto all his servants: and he lifted up the head of the chief butler and of the chief baker among his servants. 21 And he restored the chief butler unto his butlership again; and he gave the cup into Pharaoh’s hand: 22 but he hanged the chief baker: as Joseph had interpreted to them. 23 Yet did not the chief butler remember Joseph, but forgat him.

Let’s go back to verse14:  Joseph told the butler, think on me when it shall be well with thee and show kindness, and make mention of me to Pharaoh and BRING ME OUT OF This house  = dungeon or prison.

Remember that Abigail had said this to David, when she stopped him from going to avenge himself of her wicked husband.  She said when you are king, or it is well with thee, remember me.  Later, after her husband died, David took her for a wife.

This is also showing that the thief on the cross recognized that Jesus would someday be king, and said, remember me when you come into your kingdom.  That is what this is about.  Watch it unfold as the other dream is interpreted.

There is a lot of background truth which needs to be brought in here, in order for the depth of this to be made clear.  But I truly do not know how to show this to anyone who is unfamiliar with the deep truths which God has given to me in the last few years.  One needs to know that Genesis one is NOT about the creation of the universe.  It is totally about Jesus and his kingdom.

That is also what these two dreams are about.  We know that Jesus was born, naturally, under the LAW SYSTEM.  That is ONE DAY with the Lord. = LAW.

We also know that Jesus nailed that LAW to his cross, taking it out of the way.  This then brought in a NEW DAY;  A NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH  = GRACE.  That is another DAY WITH THE LORD  = GRACE.

In Genesis one, day three is about this new day of GRACE being born.  In this DAY OF GRACE, this FRUIT TREE of the vine of Jesus’ kingdom, began bearing its fruit, or true children of God.  There were no children,  or sons of God, under the old LAW system.

This is the budding and blossoming of that tree of life, Eve, the Holy Mother of all LIVING.  She brought forth her first pure SEED CHILD, the day Jesus rose from the grave.  This TREE then began bearing other SEED CHILDREN like unto Jesus.  This began on the DAY   of pentecost.  (another DAY with God, see?)

This Holy Seed was in this tree, called Jesus, because God had given this seed of life to him.  As the Father has LIFE in himself, so has He given to ME TO HAVE LIFE IN MYSELF.  So, this tree has the seed of life in itself.  This tree then brought forth more trees with this seed of life in itself.  It became a full kingdom, of which Jesus is the HEAD.

On the third DAY, Pharaoh lifted up the HEAD and set Jesus on the throne of God.  He is the HEAD of this body or kingdom.  Jesus was brought out of that prison or grave, on this THIRD DAY, OR THE BEGINNING OF GRACE.  Praise my God.  The real prison was that old LAW.

Noah’s ark had three levels or stories.  They stayed in that UPPER story.  The chief baker saw THREE WHITE baskets on his head.  White in scripture shows righteousness.  The  disciples were in an UPPER room, when they received the Holy Ghost and were thus filled with RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Watch how all of ties together, in this man’s dream.

Remember that the sheet with all manner of animals was let down to Peter three times and he was told to rise, kill and eat.

At first, Peter did not wish to do such a thing, for he saw it as carnal, or natural.  But after he understood its true meaning, he saw that Jesus had now cleansed this entire world, we are all one, and we must all be one kingdom;  not divided anymore.  No Jews or Gentiles;  No male or female;  no bond or free;  but all EQUAL in  Christ Jesus our Lord.

Abraham is the ‘father’ of the righteous.  With Abraham began a new age or day with God.  This was a day of innocence.  Then Moses came along and gave the LAW.  This was day two.

Then Jesus nailed that law to the cross, took it out of the way, and gave us GRACE.  This is day three.

Now I know there is more to this, but for now that is all I am dealing with.

Now to the baker’s dream:  v16..I had three white baskets on my head.

Three brought it to the day of grace.  White brought it to righteousness.  on his head, shows it was on the head of the body, Jesus Christ.

In that UPPERMOST basket, (or that upper room), was all manner of bake meats for Pharaoh.  This is the glorious message of grace brought to us by Jesus and his apostles.  It began in that upper room.  At the time of these baskets, the BIRDS did EAT these meats, or FLESH out of the basket on my head.  It is saying that the true children of God, saw what Jesus had done for us, and came and ATE the glorious message he had given to us  = his flesh, or spiritual FOOD.

We are referred to as birds;  eagles and such in Scripture.  Jesus himself is called a ravenous bird from the east.  Jesus had said, except you EAT my FLESH, you have no life in you.  So in this uppermost basket was this food of life.

In order for one thing to be born, seems another must die.  flesh must die so spirit can live.  OT Law system must die so Grace can live.  Romans 7,  we must be dead to law, in order to be married to Christ or Grace.

So all of this is fully established with written scripture  = a sure interpretation.

Joseph said, the three baskets are THREE DAYS.  Within three days shall Pharaoh lift up thy head from off thee, and shall hang thee on a tree; and the birds shall eat thy flesh from off thee.

He is speaking to The OT law system.  In many scriptures, this law system is spoken of as a living being.  It speaks to God and God speaks back to it.  That is what this baker is showing.  You must hang on that cross with Jesus and DIE.  Then the ‘birds’ can come and eat that holy flesh of Jesus’ message of Grace.

v20.. It came to pass the THIRD DAY, was Pharaoh’s birthday, and he made a feast unto all his servants.

This is speaking of the birth of EMMANUEL, NOT THE BABY JESUS.  It is speaking of the birthday of GRACE.  This was the day God raised Jesus from the dead and restored him to his headship.   Then his little ones could come and eat that FEAST he had made for us.  Come and DINE.

Eat that holy FLESH to have eternal life.  Jesus has made a feast for his servants.  It is in that uppermost basket on his head.

Pharaoh lifted up the heads of both these men on that day.  He RESTORED the butler to his former position and again this man ministered to God and the people.

He hung that old law system, or natural man, and brought in the Christ, in the image of God.   These dreams came to pass exactly as Joseph had interpreted to both of them.  Yet in spite of this, when the butler was restored, he forgot about Joseph and did not mention him to Pharaoh at that time.  (you have forgotten your first love;  there shall be a great falling away;  but he will restore all things).

End of part two.

~~~ Looking beneath the surface ~~~~

One of the main reasons people miss the glorious secrets and deep truths of God’s Word is that they have never learned to look below the surface.  On the surface, or the outward words, you will see a story.  But this ‘story’ is included in God’s word ONLY because it is showing something much deeper and of a more spiritual subject.  God speaks to us through these deep, below-the-surface or hidden secrets or truths.  It truly takes an anointing from God for one to ‘see’ these deep and powerful reasons for this ‘story’ to be written in Scripture.

In this message I am going to show you some of the deep hidden secrets inside one of the most interesting ‘stories’ in scripture.  Until you learn to see Jesus is all scripture, you have not looked beneath the surface yet;  and are missing the true meaning;  you are just reading words or a story.  God’s word is not meant to just tell a story;  that is for children.  But instead those who are more mature in God, should be able to see the hidden secrets and expound the real glory of God’s word.

For this lesson I am going to use Genesis 40.

This ‘story’ begins after Joseph has been in prison for a good while, down in Egypt.

Genesis 40 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

40 And it came to pass after these things, that the butler of the king of Egypt and his baker had offended their lord the king of Egypt. 2 And Pharaoh was wroth against two of his officers, against the chief of the butlers, and against the chief of the bakers. 3 And he put them in ward in the house of the captain of the guard, into the prison, the place where Joseph was bound. 4 And the captain of the guard charged Joseph with them, and he served them: and they continued a season in ward.

5 And they dreamed a dream both of them, each man his dream in one night, each man according to the interpretation of his dream, the butler and the baker of the king of Egypt, which were bound in the prison. 6 And Joseph came in unto them in the morning, and looked upon them, and, behold, they were sad. 7 And he asked Pharaoh’s officers that were with him in the ward of his lord’s house, saying, Wherefore look ye so sadly to day?

8 And they said unto him, We have dreamed a dream, and there is no interpreter of it. And Joseph said unto them, Do not interpretations belong to God? tell me them, I pray you.9 And the chief butler told his dream to Joseph, and said to him, In my dream, behold, a vine was before me; 

10 and in the vine were three branches: and it was as though it budded, and her blossoms shot forth; and the clusters thereof brought forth ripe grapes:11 and Pharaoh’s cup was in my hand: and I took the grapes, and pressed them into Pharaoh’s cup, and I gave the cup into Pharaoh’s hand. 

12 And Joseph said unto him, This is the interpretation of it: The three branches are three days: 13 yet within three days shall Pharaoh lift up thine head, and restore thee unto thy place: and thou shalt deliver Pharaoh’s cup into his hand, after the former manner when thou wast his butler. 

14 But think on me when it shall be well with thee, and shew kindness, I pray thee, unto me, and make mention of me unto Pharaoh, and bring me out of this house: 15 for indeed I was stolen away out of the land of the Hebrews: and here also have I done nothing that they should put me into the dungeon.

When I read this, and God began showing me BENEATH the surface, it went like this:  I read where the butler said, “I dreamed a VINE was before me”.   I saw right then that this VINE is Jesus;  for Jesus said, I am the VINE.

Then, ‘in the VINE were  THREE branches’.    I stopped right there and asked God, what are the three branches.  I knew that Jesus had said, ye are the branches,  but somehow I did not think that was the answer.  Jesus spoke right back to me and said, ‘it is the three days Jesus was dead’.

I knew then this was the right interpretation. (I later called Wanna and asked her what she thought the three days were;  she immediately saw it was these thee days Jesus was dead;  two witnesses).

Joseph told them, Interpretations belong to God.  This goes for interpretation the Word of God.  No man can rightly interpret the word of God except God gives it to him.  When anyone simply goes by what some man or church made up or tells, they will not have it right.  Until God shows it to you and tells you, and you can prove it with written scripture, you do not have it right.

Now, notice something very striking next:  

verse 10— this vine budded.. now remember this is during that three days Jesus was dead.

When a vine buds, it is getting ready to bloom and the blooms turn into fruit.

Next.. HER… notice this switch to the female gender…HER.. blossoms shot forth.

Now what is that?  If you study the tree of life in scripture, it is always spoken of as a female.  The tree of LIFE is a female. Even other scriptures, in Psalm and others, show that the WIFE is a fruitful VINE and bears CHILDREN.  

I wrote a long message which God had revealed to me…called the Wife of God.  This is one of the most shocking and deep message God has ever shown me.  It comes from the book of Isaiah and proves that Jesus was the wife of God.  Jesus is our spiritual MOTHER.  But it goes back to his MOTHER, EVE.  Eve is this tree of LIFE.  Look up her name in the Strongs concordance.  It will show you that Eve means    RESTORER to life, or life giver.

(too much on that subject for me to go into it here;  just wanted to give you that so you can follow this revelation here)

In the three days Jesus was dead and in hell, this VINE budded and HER blossoms shot forth; and the cluster brought forth RIPE GRAPES.

Wow!  HER  children began to come forth.  God had promised HER, Eve, that HER Seed, or a child of hers, would bruise the head of that old SERPENT.  This promised SEED or child, is Jesus Christ.

He is the very first ripe fruit on this TREE OF LIFE.  He was the first human being raised up from the dead, to IMMORTALITY.  So, this RIPE GRAPE is the risen CHRIST.  He was THEN in the image of God, his heavenly Father.

This is what the RIPE GRAPES represent.  Not the bud;  not the blossom, but full RIPE FRUIT = resurrected children of God.

This is how we bruise the head of that old serpent = coming forth, from this dust body, to immortality, where death has no more dominion over us.  Jesus was the first one up.

He was HER SEED.  He was the first fruit on this TREE OF LIFE, EVE.

Surely you know she is the MOTHER OF ALL LIVING?  Living signifies those who have the eternal life of God in them.

Verse 11. Pharaoh here, represents God.   His cup was in the hand of Jesus.  Jesus had prayed for this ‘cup’ to pass from him, but drank it for it was God’s will.   Now after the three days, the budding and blossoming of the TREE, Jesus has this cup of God and is pressing the grapes to give DRINK TO GOD.  In other words, beneath this surface, Jesus is now bringing in more RIPE FRUIT to God.  He is now ‘fathering’ children and bringing them forth, also in the likeness of his Father.  

See it goes on to say that in the thee days, (proving this is the right interpretation)…Pharaoh, (or God, in the types)… raises this ‘butler’ back up and restores him unto his place.  He again delivers the cup into the hand of Pharaoh.  Jesus was raised back to life in three days, and again is ministering to God and to the people.

Jesus shows next that he had down nothing to cause him to be put into this prison.  He went there, to hell, for our sins;  not for his own mistakes.  His brothers sold him to Egypt and then a lying woman, (harlot church)… caused him to be put into prison, yet he had down nothing wrong.

This is a great message and I am too tired tonight to do anymore on it.  I will go ahead and post this much so you all can read it.  I hope to get back to some more of this tomorrow.

By: Jo Smith

April 16, 2015

“ proof  that Jesus was the natural son of David, through Joseph ~~

You who claim that Jesus was naturally a son of God,  prove it with at least one verse of scripture.  If you do not have at least two witnesses of this, it is wrong.  You have not even one.  God does NOT beget sons, naturally, in the womb of women.  God begets his sons spiritually because God is a spirit.  God did not place  his Holy Seed into Mary’s womb.  All who claim this lie, have nothing in God’s word to  prove this with.

Was Jesus God’s son, through natural birth, or by spiritual birth.  I will  prove right here, with the word of God, that Jesus was the natural seed of David.  Women do not carry the natural SEED.  That comes from the man.

John 7:42
Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?

psalm 132.. ¹¹ The Lord hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.

(now how much clearer does it need be said.  Of the fruit of THY, (not Mary’s body)  David’s body, will I set upon thy throne. This is Jesus speaking.

Romans 1.. 3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

(this shows that it was by the resurrection from the dead, that Jesus was the begotten son of God.)  According to the FLESH, he was of the seed of DAVID.)

2 Timothy 2:8

8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

Here is the means by which Jesus was of the seed of David… 

Matthew 1:20
But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

Jesus was called Son of David more than any other name.  He was the natural seed of David, through Joseph. The above verse shows that it came through Joseph, for Joseph was the son of David.  That seed had traveled down from David, into Joseph, as all children have done.  Then it went from  Joseph  into Jesus.  How.  By the power of the Holy ghost. Why would you think that the Holy ghost could cause Mary to conceive and yet not be able to take seed from Joseph.  If man can do this thing, why do you think God cannot.  Since the Word declares that Jesus was the seed of David and Abraham, he had to have gotten seed from Joseph.  It did not come from Mary, since the woman does not carry the SEED. 

Does Scripture say that Jesus is the son of Joseph.  Sure it does.  Why do folks refuse to read and believe the written Word of God.  

Luke 3:23
And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,

BEING, means he WAS, as they supposed. 

Luke 4:22
And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph‘s son?

John 1:45
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.  (This is saying that Scripture says Jesus is the son of Joseph.)

John 6:42
And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?

(They were thinking carnally, as almost everyone does…how can he say, I came down from heaven>   you think the same thing…he came down, naturally, from heaven.  carnality.)

Acts 13…22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave their testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

23 Of this man’s seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

How long will you doubt God’s word, and accept instead, the lies of man.  This plainly said that Jesus was of this man’s seed.  This man is David.  His natural seed is Jesus Christ. Now go on and study Acts 13 a bit closer.  The solid proof is right there that the son of God, is the RESURRECTED CHRIST, not the baby, Jesus.

33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David

The above agrees with Romans 1, that God’s son is the resurrected Christ.  Not the baby Jesus.  That baby was the natural seed of David, by his natural dad, Joseph. If not, the verses I gave in this message are false.  Which do you think it is. 

You will all give account to God, for denying his Word, and accepting the lies of man.  

Man says, God has three OFFICES.  Yet this word, offices, is not once named in all of God’s word.  So where did this lie come from. You best get into the Word of God for yourself and study, as Jesus commanded us to do, if you wish to have salvation.  Stop believing and teaching the lies of man.  Jesus was the natural seed of David, Abraham, and Joseph. 

By.. Jo  Smith.. Oct 26, 2012

, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.(see, the holy ghost is our teacher. We do not need that law to teach us.)

See, that verse shows that the Father sends the Holy Ghost in the name of Jesus. So it was not the Holy Ghost in the OT. It was Holy Spirit. We must receive the HOLY GHOST, for this is the spirit which works in the name of Jesus. Those who reject, ‘Holy Ghost’ are rejecting the authority of Jesus Christ. This is weret the power is invested, so they hate it.

John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

That proves we must ask in the name of Jesus to receive something from the Father. He set Jesus in authority and is not going to dishonor this decision of his.

John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 16:24

Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

Verse 24 proves that up until that time, they had not asked anything in the name of Jesus. It had not been established, yet, that Jesus was the name of authority in this earth. So, the disciples had not been asking in the name of Jesus. After Jesus was given authority as headship over man, then everything we do, including baptism, must be done in the Name of Jesus Christ, to be valid. All who refuse this, are rebelling against God the Father.

John 16:26

At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

Verse 26, is of utmost importance. Why? It shows that at THAT day, ye shall ask in my name. What day? The day in which God set Jesus up on the throne of God as the ruling headship over mankind. This is why the NT church, the true Christians, are not under the beast head of mankind; the seven headed beast of Revelation, which is just a revival of the four kingdoms in Daniel, the headship of man, from Adam down through Moses.

We are not of that beast with the ten horns, those ten commandments. No matter how many hate this, it is still the truth of God’s word.

Jo Smith

~~ Children of Jesus ~~

Isa 49:21 Then shalt thou say in thine heart, Who hath begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children, and am desolate, a captive, and removing to and fro? and who hath brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; these, where had they been?

Isa 49:22 Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders.

Isa 49:23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.

Isa 49:24 Shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered?

Isa 49:25 But thus saith the LORD, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children.

Isa 49:26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

Verse 21– Who do you think that is speaking? It is Jesus. Why does he ask, who hath begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children? He said, I was left alone, these, where had they been. When was he left alone? At the Crucifixion.

At that time he had been left desolate, forsaken by God and all his friends. But now he sees another group of ‘children’. Who are they? It is the NT Saints, beginning on the Day of Pentecost. Who beget these children to Jesus? It was his Father, who beget us to Jesus by giving us to Jesus, who gave us the Holy Ghost.

Verse 22 shows the bringing in of the Gentiles as children of Jesus.

What about verse 23? What is it saying, kings shall be thyNURSING FATHERS? Nursing fathers? Who ever heard such a thing? A father nursing children? And a king at that? Can you imagine this… a king, sitting on his throne, with a nursing baby at his breast? So, who are these kings? It is the very ones whom the Word said to the NT Christians, we are kings and priests to God. These kings, people with the Holy Ghost, are nursing up children to Jesus, by feeding them, and our own inner manchild, the word of God.

See also, that queens are their nursing mothers. So in Christ, there is neither male nor female, so that we are all considered to be the same = nursing fathers and nursing mothers.

Read the rest of this verse. Can you imagine these nursing fathers and mothers, with these children nursing at their breasts, running along behind Jesus, licking up the very dust from his feet? Now is this funny or what? If you think of it the way all these silly folks are, who say the Word of God is to be taken LITERAL. Literally, these nursing fathers and mother queens are chasing along behind Jesus, licking up his dust, as their babies nurse. Now I just love this.

Isa 49:24 Shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered?

So who is the prey? Who is the mighty, from whom the lawful captive is delivered? The prey is the people of God, whom Jesus delivered from that LAW, wherein we were held captive or in bondage. Yes, Jesus took the prey from that mighty LAW.

Yes, Jesus took the prey from that mighty yoke of the bondage of law, and set them free and contends with all who try to bring us again into that bondage.

Now, I want some of you to explain this to me: Isa 49:26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.

How is Jesus going to feed those who oppress us, with their very own FLESH? How are they going to be drunken with their own blood?

Unless you EAT the flesh of Jesus, and drink his blood, you have no life in you. But if you oppress him and his children, of the New Covenant, you will end up eating your own flesh and drinking your own blood, to be drunken and spewed out of God’s mouth.

So, now, all of you who make up your own doctrine and reject the true doctrine of the Word of God, are eating your own flesh. The flesh is the Word. So is the blood. It is the life and without the life of the very same flesh which Jesus himself ate, you will die in your sins and be lost.

By: Jo Smith ~~~ August 29, 2008

I truly enjoyed reading this article that I got from another group. Tweety

From: MudPie Dreamer (Original Message) Sent: 1/10/2008 8:55 PM

Subject: What is the “real” name of Jesus?

On the road to Damascus Saul heard a voice saying: I AM JESUS

Many are claiming that the Name of Jesus is not the name that can be used for the Christ or the Messiah. They insist the name is the Hebrew name Yashua or Jeshuah. If anyone thinks that Hebrew was a common language among the Jews in the days of Jesus, they are very wrong. Please bear with me as I seek to bring some light into this subject.

Hebrew was written in the Canaanite-Phoenician alphabet originally. It was in the 4th century BC that the Jews adopted the square alphabet from Aramaic. The Gezer Calendar is the earliest inscription known, which dates to around 925 BC. Biblical Hebrew or Classical Hebrew is known primarily from the Old Testament. This text only covers a period of around 1,000 years.

Hebrew was only spoken in Judaea until the 3rd Century. By this time Hebrew had died elsewhere. Hebrew by this time was not the common language in Israel. Even the Hebrew that was spoken then was a modified version known as Mishnaic (From the name of the Mishna, a highly mystical book of writings concerning Jewish spirituality.) When Israel spent time in Babylon during their captivities, Aramaic became their lingua franca (A language widely used among people who speak other tongues.) Targum (or translation of scriptures into Aramaic) was made to accommodate the switch from Hebrew to Aramaic.

In the days of Jesus Christ, Aramaic was still the lingua franca of the Hebrews. Hebrew was spoken nowhere by around 200 to 300 AD. It had became a dead language except for usage in some Temple ceremonies, much the same as Latin has always been used by the Catholic Church in the same manner. Hebrew was only revived in a modified version by Ben Yehuda in Palestine in the late 19th century. This was done in order to provide a lingua franca for the Zionists to form the nation of Israel. This nation is antichristian in every way and is the head power of anti-christian thought in the world today. Anyone who thinks the religious powers in Israel accept or value Christ’s teachings today any more than they did when He first taught them needs to look deeper. They especially hate the Christian religion as it was condensed and perfected by the apostle Paul–God’s chosen vessel for that purpose.

(Rev 11:8 KJV) “And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.” Where was Jesus crucified? Jerusalem–the capitol city of Israel–the hub of religiosity of Jews everywhere, then as well as now.

Biblical Hebrew is the literary form of the very conservative dialect of Jerusalem. It crystallized in Jerusalem about 900 BCE and showed little change until the Babylonian Exile in the 6th century BCE. From then on it became more and more an archaic literary vehicle radically different from the spoken Hebrew. As a literary (written) dialect it was used until the fall of the Second Temple in 70 CE.

It is estimated that 300,000 people in the Middle East speak the Modern East Aramaic dialect. The immigrant communities in Europe and the United States are included in this estimated number. The history of the Aramaic language over the last 2,800 years is known in considerable detail. Among living languages, only Greek can claim a longer continuously documented history. Joseph, Mary, and Jesus spoke Aramaic, not Hebrew.

Aramaic appears among the ranks of known languages around 850 BC in Syria (the Tell Fekheriye stele). Aramaic spread with tremendous speed, and by the 6th century BC was being used as the administrative language and lingua franca of the entire Middle East, all the way from Afghanistan in the Persian Empire to Egypt. Many ancient Semitic languages, including Akkadian and Hebrew, died out and were supplanted by Aramaic. Only Greek rivaled Aramaic for dominance in the Middle East until the Arab conquest of the 7th century AD. Greek and Aramaic were the primary languages used throughout the Middle East during the times of Jesus Christ. A reference to Greek-speaking Jews is found clearly in the book of Acts. In Acts 6:1 certain early Christians in Jerusalem are spoken of as being “Hellenists.”

The King James Version says, (Acts 6:1) “And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians (Hellenistai) against the Hebrews (Hebraioi), because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration.”

Who were these Hellenists or “Greeks”? The term applies to Greek-speaking Jews, in whose synagogues Greek was spoken, and where undoubtedly the Septuagint Scriptures were commonly used. This is verified in Acts 9:29 where we read: “And he (Saul, whose name was later changed to Paul) spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus, and disputed against the Grecians . . .” The “Grecians” or “Hellenists” were the Greek-speaking Jews, who had their own synagogues, even in Jerusalem.”

Some Aramaic words and expressions are preserved in the Gospels, such as Talitha cum, which means, “Little girl, get up!” (Mark 5:41). Also, Abba (“Father”; Mark 14:36; Gal.4:6; Rom.8:15); Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani (“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me”; Mark 15:34); Cephas (“Peter”; John 1:42); Mammon (“Wealth”; Matt.6:24, RSV); Raca(“Fool”; Matt.5:22, RSV). In fact, we can be specific and say that Jesus spoke a Galilean version of “western Aramaic,” which differed from that which was spoken in Jerusalem (Matt.26:73; compare Acts 2:7). Most people think that these preserved words are Hebrew but they are not. They are Greek/Aramaic terms.

Jesus is a translation of the Greek name “Iesous” (pronounced “[ee]yeh-sooce”). “Iesous” came over into the Latin as “Jesu” (pronounced “yehsoo”) and it was directly translated into English as “Jesus.” All original manuscripts of the New Testament exist in Greek. Jesus is the English pronouncement of our Lord and savior the Messiah. It is not a hebraic name and never was. It is Greek/Aramaic.

There is no name hated more in Israel by the antichristian Jews than the name of Jesus. Most Jewish believers do not want other Jews to know that they are believers in Jesus Christ. Until lately (among the believers in Israel) Jesus and Yeshua were consider one and the same name. As always, an antichristian stronghold has come through the religious Jews. Remember who it was who refused to accept Him, rejected, then persecuted and finally murdered him–not the common man and woman in Israel but the religious elite. There are Pharisees and Scribes alive and well in Israel today–never doubt it.

The translation of Yeshua in Israel has been accepted only for a few years by the Jews. Since Iesous is the only known recorded name of the Messiah in the original text, this name has to be translated back into modern Hebrew by the Jews of today. Ignorant men forget the fact that Messiah’s or Christ’s name was only recorded in text as Iesous. Never was the name of Messiah or Christ recorded in Hebrew, ancient or modern. So the insistant complaint that Christians “don’t know the name of their own God” is fallicious in the extreme. We do know who Jesus is and we know His name well.

The Hebrew language was dead until the end of the nineteenth century. Today’s Hebrew is not the original. Aramaic is a big part of modern Hebrew. Foolish men, ignorant men, and evil men without wisdom always want to cause division within the body of Christ Jesus. This happened in the early church also.

(1 John 2:18 KJV) “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.”
(1 John 2:19 KJV) “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us”

The saints can only be deceived by untrue and false doctrine. It is the ones that change the word of God that has been given to us by the Apostles that are antichrist. His name was only written as Iesous so Yeshua is a translation also. Anyone that cannot see this is a very ignorant person. Men’s opinions mean nothing. Only the Apostles writings and manuscripts inspired by the Holy Ghost are to be believed. If after almost two thousand years modern day Hebrew had not been developed, this debate over the name of Jesus would not exist. We know as it gets closer to the end of this world antichristian deceit will increase.

(2 Tim 3:13 KJV) “But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.”

In Israel the religious modern Pharisees now are trying to state that DNA/CODES can prove who is a Jew of the Cohen Priesthood. The word of God tells us that genealogies mean nothing, but people in Israel are trying to prove their blood by ancestry, as a perquisite of a calling of God– which is foolishness to the Lord.

(1 Tim 1:4 KJV) “Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.”

(Titus 3:9 KJV) “But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.”

Men are also trying to take a language that was dead for almost two thousand years and are causing great division over the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. The Yahweh believers and heretics blaspheme the name of Jesus by claiming it is a made up name and has no validity. When a word is translated into another language it is done so in order that others can pronounce the same word with the same meaning. Jesus is the English version of Iesous–the Greek name for the son of Mary whom we worship as the Son of God ie. God clothed in the flesh of Man.

The word of God states: (Mat 1:21 KJV) “And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS (Iesous): for he shall save his people from their sins.”

# The Word of God states the name of Jesus means salvation to his people; [as in I AM SALVATION form] that is {IE – (I AM) SOUS- (SALVATION)} I believe the Word of God and the Word of God alone.

Furthermore Saul heard the voice in the Hebrew tongue saying I AM JESUS.

JESUS MEANS JESUS.

[Acts 26:14 “And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.] [Acts 26:15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I AM JESUS whom thou persecutest.”] Hmmm. So we have here a clear witness of Jesus speaking in the Hebrew tongue–which at that time was Aramaic–and giving His name clearly as JESUS! Not Yeshua or Jeshua–or to be succint, the name would have been Joshua in the Hebrew of that time. But the name given by the voice that spoke directly to Saul’s heart was JESUS.

And the confirmative is given in the BOOK OF REVELATION WHEN JESUS SAID “I JESUS” and not any other name.
[Revelation 22:16 “I, Jesus, have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.”]

So called Christians are taking the word of Talmudic Rabbis that are antichrist and that follow the teachings of the Babylonian Talmud. Some Christian’s are falling for the opinions of antichrist Jewish religious men that have determined that Yeshua is the only valid translation. I will keep repeating: Yeshua is a modern translation of Iesous into modern Hebrew, which is completely a new translation. If you happen to know the Word of God you will not be taken in by this vain thinking. That’s why it pays to read the word–read and commit its truth to your heart so you will not be led astray.

We must not lose the NAME. Brothers and sisters, hang on to the Name of Jesus! There is salvation, healing, signs and wonders in the Name of Jesus and no other. Don’t be deceived in these last and perilous days.

Points to ponder:
*The Babylon Talmud was written in Aramaic.
*Everything concerning the Hebrew language during the times of Jesus is guess work.
* The true Hebrew language was all but dead to the common Jew in Israel at that time.
*We then have almost a two thousand year gap before a form of Hebrew was reinstated in the Middle East.
*During this time Iesous, (which was later translated as Jesus in English, directly from the Greek,) had all power to cast out devils, heal the sick. and save the lost.
*This great name of power that brought salvation is now stated to be a made up name.

To me this last point is the most antichrist statement and attack against the truth that I believe I have ever encountered. I had to laugh when someone asked me to find a Jew that lived in Israel that prayed in the name of Jesus. There are Jews who work with Jews for conversion that believe in Jesus Christ in Israel. Many Jews pray in Jesus name, others accept Yeshua and Jesus as one and the same name and that’s OK, too. These Jews know that the original manuscripts of the New Testament were written in Greek. These Jews know that Paul wrote and taught the Messiah’s name as Iesous, which was translated directly into English as Jesus. In the same manner, modern Jews have translated the name of Jesus into today’s Hebrew as Yashua. It is only one way of speaking it, much the same as the Latino believer says, Jesus, (pronouncing it as Hay-soos.) Christian Jews in Israel know who Jesus is the same as we in the west do.

Saints; John, Peter, Paul and Jude knew that the antichrist that caused these same types of division in their days would grow in strength. (Jude 1:11 KJV)”Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.”

Men are trying to do away with a name that God has loved above all names for two thousand years and state that he will only accept the name of Yeshua that has only been used in the last few years. If Yeshua is the modern Hebrew translation of Jesus or Iesous, then either way it is pronounced is fine. Paul wrote the name of Messiah in Greek and knew his name as Iesous. It never was written in the New Testament as Yeshua and if the Jews are going to translate it from Greek to Hebrew they will have to translate Iesous (Jesus) into Hebrew first. Messiah’s name never was originally written in the manuscripts in Hebrew but in Greek. To say that the name of Jesus ever appeared in any original manuscript is a lie. To say that the Jews have a right to translate Iesous into modern Hebrew as Yeshua is fine– just as long as they accept Jesus as being the same name in English. The spoken name of Yeshua has never been great among the gentiles and most would not recognize it as the name of our Lord and savior. The name of Jesus however is the greatest name known among all men worldwide. God’s name as Jesus has been in existence since Paul wrote it down and has been translated into all languages. It was not “lost” until Ben Yehuda formed modern Hebrew (the newest of languages.)

(Psa 72:17 KJV) “His name shall endure for ever: his name shall be continued as long as the sun: and men shall be blessed in him: all nations shall call him blessed.” The name is important. Christians must hold onto it at all costs.

Anyone that states Yeshua is the only legitimate translation of Iesous is stating the true name of the Lord has been out of existence and unknown for almost the last two thousand years. This is an outright lie of the antichrist. Don’t buy into it.

The name of the Lord did not die out for two thousand years. Do not believe that his name has just been discovered by the Jews of today. Do not be deceived by those who have been deceived and are raised to deceive. Iesous has been translated directly into many languages and has power to save all that call upon that name. Men who do not know this are ignorant men with their own revelation. This false teaching is not of the God of Israel, which is my God, and my savior Jesus Christ.

(Mat 24:11 KJV) “And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”

The Israel of today is the head of antichrist and in spiritual matters not the chosen nation of God. If possible the very elect will be deceived by the antichrist Messianic movement of some religious Jews. There is nothing but carnal pride in most of these Jews. Most think that they are special because of their linage or genealogy, which means nothing in the eyes of God today. Jews have no advantage in genealogy or in their modern Hebrew language of the nineteenth century. I am talking about the ones that preach the Trinity (three distinct persons as God) and claim that Yeshua is the only pronouncement of the name of the Christ or Messiah that God accepts. The name Yeshua has only been in existence for less than one hundred years in the Christian Period and the “Holy Trinity” is a construct of the Catholic Church. They need to be reminded of the scripture: “Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is ONE Lord!” The belief in the Godhead being three distinct persons came about during the rise of the Roman Church under Constantine. Jesus was a Jew–a practicing rabbi. He never believed or taught a trinity, but did teach that He and the Father were One.

Many gentiles are being deceived and are believing and claiming this same doctrine. They all are antichrist teachings. When men believe the Lord had no power to keep his own name for the last two thousand years they are totally men of unbelief and surely are not men of faith. Men that are of the promised seed of Abraham are men of faith that above all things believe that the Lord has preserved his name and brought salvation unto whosoever will accept him. Have they not read that God no longer sees race, creed or gender? Have they not sat in a church that teaches we are all the same and one in His eyes? If they haven’t recieved this truth of Jesus Christ they need to find a church that does teach it because it is the truth. And the truth will set you free.

(Acts 4:12 KJV) “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”Praise God! That name is Jesus (who is the Christ or Messiah.)

Knowing God, being filled with the word through the blessed Holy Spirit the giver of life, and being circumcised of the heart is the only way to be born again into the true tribe of Judah, which is the true Israel of God. Salvation does not come through the bloodline, genealogy, or DNA. Salvation only comes through faith in Jesus Christ.

Blessings to you through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ,
MudPie

Sources,

1. Holy Ghost

2. Tapani Harviainen, Professor of Semitic Languages at the University of Helsinki

3. Holy Original Manuscripts of the New Testament, (as translated into various editions of the Holy Bible) Clarke’s Commentary, Works of the Nicene and Post Nicene Fathers, Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.

4. The Department of Ancient Languages, S.M.U.

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~~ The Potter’s Vessel ~~

Today is Dec. 17, 2003. It is now 1:30 am. I could not sleep, for My God had started giving me this message before I went to bed at 12:30. I could not get it off my mind, so I came to the computer to try and type some of this tonight. May God bless this message and give it as His very own Word. For that is indeed what it is.

I will start this message with this Scripture: Jeremiah 18: 1. The word which came to Jeremiah from the Lord, saying,

2. Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words.

3. Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold; he wrought a work on the wheels.

4. And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

Jeremiah 19: 1. Thus saith the Lord, Go and get a potter’s earthen bottle, and take of the ancients of the people, and of the ancients of the priests;

2. And go forth unto the valley of the son of Hinnom, which is by the entry of the east gate, and proclaim there the words that I shall tell thee,

3. And say, Hear ye the word of the Lord, O kings of Judah, and inhabitants of Jerusalem; Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, the which whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle.

4. Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents;

7. And I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place; and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies, and by the hands of them that seek their lives: and their carcases will I give to be meat for the fowls of the heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.

8. And I will make this city desolate, and an hissing; every one that passeth thereby shall be astonished and hiss because of all the plagues thereof.

9. And I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend in the siege and straitness, wherewith their enemies, and they that seek their lives, shall straiten them.

10. Then shalt thou break the bottle in the sight of the men that go with thee,

11. And shalt say unto them, Thus saith the Lord of hosts; Even so will I break this people and this city, as one breaketh a potter’s vessel, that cannot be made whole again: and they shall bury them in Tophet, till there be no place to bury.

God has spoken here of the many and horrible sins of the nation of Israel. He told them he will break them as the potter’s bottle or vessel was broken. Here God is speaking of the fall of the OT. He said I will cause you to eat the flesh of your sons and daughters. This is prophecy of the OT people having to come into the NT and ‘eat��?the spiritual ‘flesh��?or food of the Sons and Daughters of the NT, the Holy Ghost filled Christians.

It is the same as I taught in the message on the fall of the OT. There was no longer any spiritual food left in the old way; no prophets, no priests, no kings, and no way of salvation. Why?

They have sinned so much and because there was no faith, for they were serving God under the law by which no flesh shall be justified, therefore God did away with that old covenant. But what preceded this? The breaking of that Potter’s vessel.

Go back to Jer. 18: 4. The vessel that the Potter made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

What vessel was this, which was marred in the hand of the Potter? It is very important for you to learn this message.

Isa. 52: 13. Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high.

14. As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:

15. So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.

Now who is this servant which was exalted? But his visage was so MARRED more than any man and his form more than the sons of men? Who is this? How was his visage marred?

Isa. 53:7. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8. He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? For he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9. And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

11. He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12. Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

This is clearly identifying the marred and broken vessel or bottle as the crucified Jesus. …. It pleased the LORD to bruise him…he is led as a lamb to the slaughter. This is that earthern vessel which the Potter wrought on the wheel. This is the vessel made of clay, which the potter marred. Jesus was slaughtered as a sheep. He was the vessel of clay being broken.

Lam. 4:2. The precious sons of Zion, comparable to fine gold, how are they esteemed as earthen pitchers, the work of the hands of the potter!

Here we have God bringing forth precious sons of Zion as earthen pitchers or bottles or vessels. This is the work of the hands of the potter.

Now for a Scripture showing that the earthen vessel is the human body: 11Tim. 2:20. But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

21. If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto every good work.

1Peter 3:7. Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered

Now there are two Scriptures proving that we are speaking of the human body as being this vessel or pitcher made by the potter.

Romans 9: 21. Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22. What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23. And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

The potter has power over the clay. What is the clay? It is the human body made of the dust of the ground. It is ‘first man Adam��? It is this image of sinful man, which we are all in now.

But now did not he say that he had power over this clay body or vessel to make of the SAME LUMP of clay, one vessel unto honour and another vessel unto dishonour…of the same lump of clay?

What then are the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction? It is the first -man Adam human body that we are all in in this life. So then he is saying that of this very same lump of clay he will make two different vessels; one of honour and the other of dishonour. That is not spiritual which was first, but the fleshly was first, then afterward that which was spiritual. These are the two different vessels made of the same lump of clay.

The Potter made the vessel on the potter’s wheel. Then he broke the first vessel, or marred it in his hand, and took of the same lump and made it another vessel as it pleased him. This second vessel was the vessel of honour or glory. This one pleased him.

Eze. 10: 9. And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone.

10. And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel.

Now the potter uses the wheel to shape and make the vessel he is working on. So the living creature represents Jesus and the Christians. As we journey in this life, in the first-man Adam body, that potter’s wheel is at work in our life. But on the inside is another wheel at work. The potter has put another spirit into us, at the time he filled us with the Holy Ghost. So now the new man is starting to live inside us and form Christ inside us. So, now the potter has another wheel at work inside this human vessel or clay body. So this is the wheel in the midst of a wheel.

The potter is working on us both on the outside and the inside. He is preparing another vessel inside us. This is the vessel of honour. The outter vessel of clay is the vessel of dishonour. Proof? Sure.

1Cor. 15: 42. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43. It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.

45. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

47. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

49. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

See that Paul said the natural body is sown in dishonour and weakness. But it is raised in power or glory.

So then both vessels existed inside the one. The Christ was growing and forming inside the earthly vessel of the person made from the dust of the ground, or potter’s clay.

By this we have proven that the first man Adam is not in honour or glory. It is that marred image or vessel. God was not pleased with this first image or vessel, so he marred it and made of the same lump another vessel of honour. How was this possible?

Heb. 2:9. But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

11. For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

12. Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

13. And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.

14. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15. And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

16. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

18. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

Now here we are told that Jesus came here lower than angels for the suffering of death, or being broken by the Potter. This was when God marred that vessel of clay. Go back to Isa. 53 and read. It said that God bruised Jesus and broke him there at Calvary. Notice this said that as we children are partakers of flesh and blood, Jesus himself took part of the same and suffered and went into death. This was not glory. This had no beauty. This was not where the Word of God was made flesh. This body of clay was not in honour. We prove in 1Cor. 15 that the human bodies, at death, are sown in dishonour and weakness. So was Jesus��?body sown in dishonour. Death is no honour. So Jesus was here in a vessel of weakness and dishonour. He was that first vessel the Potter wrought on his wheel.

Jesus is that vessel which the Potter broke or marred. But as I taught in the message of Emmanuel, Jesus had Christ growing or forming inside him to bring forth a Son of God in honour at his resurrection. This is when and where and how God the Potter made the same lump into another vessel of honour. This is where and when and how the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us in honour; at the resurrection of Jesus.

See that our Scripture in Heb. 2:10 said that by this act of making Jesus into a new vessel of honour, he would bring many sons to this same glory.

Romans 8:29. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

30. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

31. What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

32. He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

God predestinated that those whom he foreknows by placing His Spirit into us, or Christ inside us, forming Christ in us, that we should be conformed to the IMAGE of his Son.

Now I ask you, is God bringing us forth as a God? If we are to be in the image of his Son, then whatever his son is that is what we shall be like. So will we be God? No. Of course not. Then neither is Jesus God. Not even now. If so, then when God brings us into the image of Jesus, then we would have to be God. But this is just not taught in His Word.

So then what is true?

Christ is the image of God. Christ is the Word. Jesus is not the Word. Christ was inside Jesus. God was in Christ. Christ is the anointed one. God anointed Jesus. God placed His Spirit into Jesus and caused Jesus to be conformed to the image of God. So by placing his Spirit into us, he causes us to be conformed into the image of Christ. Thus we become a vessel of honour, or resurrected into Glory.

Jesus did not have the glory before the Resurrection. Go back and read our Scriptures. He was a man of sorrows and no beauty that we should desire him. This shows there was no glory until he was resurrected. This is when the Word was made flesh, at this resurrection. This is when the potter made the vessel of honour. The first-man Adam vessel or body of clay was not any glory or honour. It was dishonour and corruption. It was killed and laid in a grave. It was marred in the hands of the potter to be made again into another vessel of honour.

So by this we find that God made a vessel of clay, an earthen bottle, or body and placed His Word into that human vessel. His Word is the Christ. His Word is the Seed of life. His Word is the power. His Word spoke the world into existence. His Word created our bodies. His Word knows every working of our bodies. His word knows how to heal our bodies when we are sick or broken in any way. His Word is the Power. Jesus, the human vessel of clay was not that power or that Word. The Word was poured into that vessel.

The Spirit of God, or the potter, took this vessel and broke it at Calvary. Then he took of that same lump, Jesus, and made it into another vessel of honour, the resurrected, glorified Christ Jesus. The power and the Word of God were still inside this man, this new vessel, and this vessel of honour. Now all the same power of God, the Word was given to this new man. The old man was laid down in dishonour. The new man now lives eternally with the glory of God in him.

People, we are to be made into that same image. We are to come forth at the resurrection, in the likeness and glory of Jesus. We will then bear the image of the Heavenly as we have borne the image of the earthly. We are now in the image of the marred, broken vessel of weakness. But inside this earthen vessel of clay, is that seed of life, the Holy Ghost, the Word of God living. The wheel of the potter is at work inside me to bring me forth a new vessel of honour at the resurrection.

John 12:16. These things understood not his disciples at the first: but when Jesus was glorified then remembered they that these things were written of him, and that they had done these things unto him.

23. And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of manshould be glorified.

24. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

Luke 24: 26. Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

Now don’t you see from the above Scriptures that Jesus had to suffer and die BEFORE he entered into his glory? Then see that in the vessel of clay he was in before death, that this was not the GLORY of the Father? This was not the Word made flesh, for it said we beheld his GLORY. So before his resurrection he had no glory. He was a vessel of dishonour for he was in this human clay body of death. The Word of God was placed into that vessel to give out to us, but that was not the flesh of glory, which the Word was made into. He had no glory before the resurrection. This entire message proves that without a doubt.

Only one willing to call the entire Word of God a lie to back up man-made doctrine could continue to call Jesus the man God; the Word in flesh, or to say that God robbed himself in a body of flesh. Where is one Scripture saying that? See that there would be no way to understand the message given here from Jeremiah and Isaiah about the breaking of the first vessel if you say that human vessel was the eternal God? You could never possibly understand the Word of God believing that lie.

If Jesus had been God in this life, none of this could be true. If Jesus had been in honour or glory before his resurrection, none of this could be true. How can you explain any of these Scriptures and say that Jesus was God? It is not possible.

Luke 24:30. And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.

31. And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

Now the reason Jesus broke this bread here and gave it to his disciples was showing them that what he had said to them the night he was taken was now true: He had said this is my body which is BROKEN for you. Eat this bread in remembrance of me. He gave this broken bread to them now signifying that he will now divide his ‘body��?of spiritual life to them by giving them of his Spirit, the Holy Ghost. He now lets them share in being a servant of God with the I AM, the Word inside them, in power, to show the world the Father as Jesus had done. “All that I do shall you do and more��?

So this is more proof that Jesus��?death at Calvary was the Potter breaking his first vessel of clay.

Isaiah 53 1. Who hath believed our report? And to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?

2. For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath neither form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

When we see him, there is no beauty. This lack of beauty shows there was no glory in that first vessel, the human Jesus. He only received his glory or beauty after he was resurrected into new life, or the new vessel made on the wheel of the Potter.

Jesus was that vessel which was marred in the hands of the potter, God, and then made into a new vessel of honour. He was declared to be the only begotten Son of God in the likeness and glory of God by the Spirit of Holiness by the resurrection from the dead. Rom. 1:3. Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

4. And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead.

Jesus was made of the seed of David, His Father, according to the FLESH. See he was human flesh. Then declared to be the Son of God with POWER, or a new vessel of honour, by the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead.

When he was dead, there was no glory, no power, no life, no honour, and this could not have been God.

Jesus had an old man nature, or vessel of clay, same as we do. He had a new man, the Emmanuel, growing inside him, same as we do. He had the Word of God inside him. This was the I AM. That Word is the I AM, not that human vessel of clay.

John 14: 24. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word, which ye hear, is not mined, but the Father’s which sent me.

28. Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

31. But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

Jesus said the word I speak is not mine, but the Father’s. He gave me a commandment what to say. This proves Jesus is not the Father, nor God. The Word was God’s Word.

By: Jo Smith. 12/17. 2003 @3:am when I finished this message.

[A Poem God gave to me tonight]*******

The reason why people say Jesus is God is because they have adopted a pagan teaching that dates back to Babylon and Egypt. So here are a few thing to consider:

Jesus prays to God. (John 17:1-3) 
Jesus has faith in God. (Hebrews 2:17,18, Hebrews 3:2) 
Jesus is a servant of God. (Acts 3:13) 
Jesus does not know things God knows. (Mark 13:32, Revelation 1:1) 
Jesus worships God. (John 4:22) 
Jesus has one who is God to him. (Revelation 3:12) 
Jesus is in subjection to God. (1 Corinthians 15:28) 
Jesus’ head is God. (1 Corinthians 11:1) 
Jesus has reverent submission, fear, of God. (Hebrews 5:7) 
Jesus is given lordship by God. (Acts 2:36) 
Jesus is exalted by God.(Acts 5:31) 
Jesus is made high priest by God. (Hebrews 5:10) 
Jesus is given authority by God. (Philippians 2:9) 
Jesus is given kingship by God. (Luke 1:32,33) 
Jesus is given judgment by God. (Acts 10:42) 
“God raised [Jesus] from the dead”. (Acts 2:24, Romans 10:9, 1 Corinthians 15:15) 
Jesus is at the right hand of God. (Mark 16:19, Luke 22:69, Acts 2:33, Romans 8:34) 
Jesus is the one human mediator between the one God and man. (1 Timothy 2:5) 
No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. (1 John 4:12) 
God put everything, except Himself, under Jesus. (1 Corinthians 15:24-28) 
Jesus did not think being “equal with God” was graspable. (Philippians 2:6) 
“Around the ninth hour, Jesus shouted in a loud voice, saying “Eli Eli lama sabachthani?” which is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”” (Matthew 27:46)