Build On The True Foundation

Date Posted：08/15/2017 10:11 PM

Larry Bray
August 13 at 2:49pm · Comer, GA ·
Matthew 24:35King James Version

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. My question is; who or what is the Heaven and earth that will pass away?

Date Posted：08/15/2017 10:12 PM

Larry Bray Here is my answer to the question I asked. It was longer than I thought it was going to be. First of all, you must remember that from Genesis to Revelation is about Jesus.
So let me try to explain this to me and you the best I know how.
The Heaven and the earth that passed away was Jesus.
Now in the English when we say that “someone passed away” it means they died or deceased.

So Jesus was the Heaven and the earth that passed away at Calvary.
Earth showing his fleshly body and heavenly showing his spiritual side Jesus had both.
Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: ( this is showing that Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh as you and I. Jesus born of natural man. He could have sinned as you and I. But Praise the Lord he condemned sin in the flesh. The fleshly was prone to sin and opposed to God. So the natural man deceased at Calvary.

There was darkness at the crucifixion of Jesus at Golgotha.
Mat: 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken
me? ( Why was there darkness? I think the above scripture says it best. God had forsaken Jesus because of the sinful flesh that was in Jesus.
There was no more light. Darkness had covered the light. There was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. this silence was no more of
the truth coming forth. Nothing from the spiritual side of Jesus.

Now let me also show what died out but the church has resurrected it or brought it back to life. This is what Jesus killed on the cross. Jesus destroyed
the earth that was passed away. He destroyed the law with those 10 commandments….Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; ( the law is no more but as I said earlier that the church brought it back up. They revied the law that Jesus destroyed. They gave it breath.

Galatians 5: 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. ( There is no justification under the law and you have fallen from grace. Jesus set us free from that earthly flesh and we are no more under the law.

He did away with that law. Jesus said to the woman at the well when ye shall neither in this mountain nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. That was the old Jerusalem Galatians 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. See that the earthly has passed away. There was nothing but bondage under that old Jerusalem the fleshly side. but praise the Lord Jesus did away with the old and brought about the new.
Galatians 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. ( praise God we are free)

He destroyed the earthly and brought in a New Jerusalem. Revelation 21:1…And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
See the passed away here in this scripture. Was that not in the scripture that I asked the question? sure it was. Matthew 24:35Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

One more scripture. Revelation 21: 2
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. … ( once again the same as my question, the first heaven, and the first earth were passed away. Now we do not have to go to those old Tabernacles
(churches) that was passed away. We now have the tabernacle of God dwelling inside of us, the Holy Ghost. Praise the Lord for this New Jerusalem. That old Jerusalem has passed away or deceased to be
with the true people of God. We now have the New Jerusalem, which will be forever and never pass away.

Date Posted：08/15/2017 10:11 PM

Larry Bray
August 13 at 2:49pm · Comer, GA ·
Matthew 24:35King James Version

35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. My question is; who or what is the Heaven and earth that will pass away?

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Who is the Son

By: Jo Smith..June 23, 2018

John 1: 32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. 33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 

34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel. 

50 Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these. 

51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.

Here we have two men saying, this is the Son of God.  Jesus himself said, ‘the Son of man’.  So which is it?

Matthew 11:27

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

Luke 10:22

All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

Now there we have two witnesses, Scripture writers, stating that no man knows who the Son is, but the Father.

So if no man knows who the son is, but the Father, how did John and Phillip know who the Son is? 

Mat. 16: 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Cæsarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood 

hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Jesus asked his disciples, whom do men say that I the SON OF MAN am?

Peter said thou are the Christ, the SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

JESUS  then said, the Father revealed this to you.  No man knows who the Son is unless the Father reveals it to them.

Peter was not answering the question, who is the son of man;  he went to the answer of who the Son of God is. 

The entire church world says that Mary’s baby Jesus, is the son of God.  So if it takes a revelation from the Father to show who the Son of God is, how is it that all these people think they know who it is?  Surely they did not all receive a revelation from the Father.

Now let’s set up one more line of thought:

John 1: 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

God gives the believers on his name, power TO BECOME (future  tense) SONS OF GOD.

So if Mary’s baby is this Son of God and we receive power to also become a son of God, will the God of heaven come into our mother and put himself there? …in her natural womb?  

But he said this will not be of blood or the will of the flesh or the will of man. 

Now more:

 John 3: 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? 

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth:

 so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Now here is the mystery:  Jesus said, that which is born of the flesh is FLESH.

That which is born of the  Spirit is Spirit..

God is a Spirit.  God does NOT beget fleshly sons.

So to say that Mary’s baby is this Son of God is to call these words of Jesus a LIE.  He said that which is born of Spirit is Spirit.  His flesh was not born from a Spirit.  God, the Father, is a spirit.  So Mary’s  little human baby cannot be this SON OF GOD.

The word very clearly declares in several different verses that Jesus is the son of JOSEPH.

God clearly said, he was born of the seed of a man, David.  He is clearly called the son of Abraham and David.   Joseph is clearly shown to be a son of David. 

Neither of these men are spirit.  They did not Father the Son of God.  They fathered Mary’s baby.

This is why Jesus called himself, son of MAN.  He was speaking of himself and needed no revelation from the Father to know this.

Acts 2: 29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

God swore to David, of the fruit of HIS LOINS, according to the FLESH, HE would raise up Christ to sit on his throne.

That which is born of flesh is flesh.  This flesh man is Mary’s baby.  This is not the Son of God.  Yet some had declared to him, you are the Son of God.  So what is the answer?

36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

God made that same Jesus, (Mary’s son) whom they had crucified, to be BOTH Lord and Christ.  THIS Is that Christ, that is the Son of the Living God.

Romans 1 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, 2 (which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) 

3 concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

 4 and declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Now here is the answer to the mystery:

Jesus Christ was made of the Seed of David ACCORDING TO THE FLESH….THAT WHICH IS BORN OF FLESH IS FLESH.

Jesus was a flesh man, made from the seed of a man;  performed by the Holy  Ghost;  not the will of man.

The Son of God was begotten the day God raised the man, Jesus, from the dead.  He is the firstborn from the DEAD.

The day Jesus was baptized by John, God gave to Jesus the HOLY GHOST.  Thus Jesus had the Son of God inside himself;  his spiritual womb.

This growing son of God, inside the man Jesus, is this Son of God.  It takes a revelation from the Father to know this and that is why the church has no knowledge of this.  They have not been taught by the Father.

They must also conceive seed from  God, given to us by Jesus via the Holy Ghost, in order to bring forth a son of God.  This is the only means of NEW BIRTH….being born from the Spirit.

Remember, no man knows this son of God except the Father reveals it to you.  and no man knows the Father unless the Son of God reveals it to you.

Hence, very few know the true Son of God or the Father of that son. 

Amen. 

The Lamb becomes a Lion

By: Jo Smith ****** December 31, 2016

On this last day of the year I wish to write a powerful message that God began revealing to me a few weeks ago. I did not write on it to begin with for I felt I needed more to prove this with. Last night before laying down, I asked Jesus to show me scripture proof. I said, If I am overlooking scripture that proves this message, please show it to me.

Almost immediately Jesus began ‘preaching’ it to me. So much proof!

God had spoken to me that after Jesus rose and ascended to heaven, He no longer needed or had the Holy Ghost. It was quite shocking to me. But a few years ago I wrote a deep and powerful message called, The Wife of God.

In this message I showed that the Spirit of the Lord God is the Spirit that was given to Jesus for his own glorified body. In other words, Jesus and this Spirit of the Lord God MARRIED, or became ONE.

Now I know this will be almost impossible for anyone to see, who thinks that Jesus was God in flesh, or that God is only 1 or 3 ‘persons’. These two lies blind you to all the truth of God.

If you read that message it will help you to understand this message. We must learn all along the way or not be able to see something new, that God reveals to someone who is being TAUGHT BY THE TEACHER.

Who is this TEACHER? Let Scripture show you: John 14: 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The Holy Ghost is our COMFORTER and also our TEACHER. He shall teach you all things. If He is not teaching you, you have a false spirit.

John 15: 26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

The Holy Ghost is the spirit of TRUTH. When a person cannot discern or believe or accept TRUTH, as it is taught, that person does NOT HAVE THIS SPIRIT OF TRUTH, but a lying spirit from satan.

John 16: 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

A deep truth is revealed here: Jesus said it is expedient that I go away, for if I do not go away, the COMFORTER will not come unto you. But if I depart, I will send him unto you.

See, Jesus is telling these disciples that this Holy Ghost comforter cannot come unto them, until Jesus ascends to the Father and is commissioned to be our Lord and our God. Then, and only then, could Jesus send the Holy Ghost unto the people.

God only gave the Holy Ghost to one person, Jesus Christ. This Holy Ghost was given to Jesus when John Baptized Jesus.

Jesus was given this Spirit of God, without measure. He had the fullness of this Spirit. Therefore, he could not send this Spirit upon these other men until He himself became our God. Then Jesus sends this Holy Ghost on those whom he baptizes into his own body.

I will not try to prove all these statement in this message, for I have fully proven them in other messages. That would make this be too long and is not the subject of this message. Only those who have this spirit of Truth will be able to receive this, anyway.

John 16: 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Now again we are shown that this Spirit of Truth will guide you into ALL TRUTH. He is our GUIDE. If He is not leading you and guiding you into more and more truth, You do not have the Holy Ghost. He will do his job.

John 17: 8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

God, the Father, GAVE His Word TO JESUS. Jesus is not the Word of God, as false teachers claim. Jesus said, I gave them the words that you gave to me. So, why call Jesus a lie to try and back up your false church?

John 14: 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

The Father of Jesus, God himself, (not physical dad, but spiritual Father) was always in Heaven…but there is something of the Father, in the Spirit which he sent to this world, that dwelt inside Jesus; Not Jesus’ own spirit, but the Holy Ghost given to Jesus by God, the Father.

This Spirit of God, dwelling in Jesus, was the one doing the mighty works. Without this Spirit from God, Jesus could not have done the mighty works. He never claimed to do these works by his own power. He said, the Father who dwells in me, He does the works.

But notice something great: 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Jesus now told these disciples, the words that I do, shall you do also, all that believes on me shall do these same and greater works, BECAUSE I GO TO MY FATHER.

Now let that soak in. I GO TO MY FATHER….and yet the Father dwelt in him…..see, has to be more to this than the gates to hell, false churches, teach.

IF, this Spirit of God, dwelling in Jesus, is/was ALL there is to God, then what is He talking about…I GO TO MY FATHER..

He had to GO SOMEWHERE ELSE to go to his Father. This is when he ascended up to heaven. Something very great and powerful happened when Jesus went to his Father, in heaven. And that is what this message is about.

Jesus was telling his people, after I send this Spirit of the Holy Ghost back unto you, you will be able to do the very same works that I am doing, and even more. So, if the ‘spirit’ you got when you got ‘saved’ does not do these works, does not even believe in them, you most certainly received a false spirit from satan.

John 14: 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

This Holy Ghost was with them because he was in Jesus; but Jesus said he shall be IN YOU.

Jesus said, I will pray the Father….so is He praying to himself? that is foolishness….and He, will give you another COMFORTER, that he, this comforter may abide with you for ever. This, forever, means while you live in this life; it is not eternally. This is easily proven by many scriptures.

While we are here, in this earthly life, we need this comforting Spirit the Holy Ghost, to lead us and guide us and teach us all truth. After we are in a glorified body, or eternal life, eternal health, eternal knowledge, WHAT NEED WOULD WE HAVE FOR A COMFORTER? OR TEACHER? OR GUILDE?

That is what this revelation is; After we reach immortality, we will no longer need or have the Holy Ghost. That Spirit is given to us for the NOW, while we are in this mortal body and need a comforter; a teacher; a healer; a guide.

Who ever heard of an angel having the Holy Ghost? They do not need this spirit. It is given to earthly mortals.

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Jesus is saying, We, my Father and I will come unto you and make our abode with you. So when we receive the Holy Ghost, we then have the very essence or presence of both the Father and Jesus. This Spirit is sent from them to us and is their spirit. Jesus had the Holy Ghost and that was the spirit of his Father in him. So sad that the church world has missed this truth and failed to teach it to their people.

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The Father sends the Holy Ghost in the name of Jesus…..so if you refuse to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, you are not a recipient for the Holy Ghost. It only comes in the name, or authority of Jesus Christ. The Father only beget one son and that is Jesus, when He gave Jesus the Holy Ghost. Now Jesus is our father and begets us by giving us the Holy Ghost. That spirit of God will be with us, teaching us and leading us until we come into immortality. At this time we will no longer need or have the Holy Ghost. We will be given another Spirit from God.

So with that said, I will now show you that this same thing happened with Jesus Christ. He had this Spirit without measure as long as he was here in a mortal body. It led and taught Jesus all truth.

But when Jesus was raised from the dead, into immortality and raised up to heaven, He was given a different Spirit from God and no longer needed the Holy Ghost.

Jesus had said, The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, for He has anointed me. This Spirit of the Lord God is different from the Holy Ghost. This Spirit is second only to God the Father. Jesus was given this Spirit of the Lord God to be his own glorified body, after he ascended to Heaven.

Jesus and this Spirit became ONE, or married. Jesus is now called the Lord God, for he has been given this spirit for eternity as his own spiritual husband. I know that the ‘god’ taught by all the churches is false and you cannot possibly understand this until you see the error of their teachings, that God is just 1 or 3 persons. No Scripture teaches these lies.

I also know that for most of you, your interest in spiritual things, especially when it comes through me, is so low, that you will not read this….but for any who will read it, here is spiritual food from heaven.

Why would an immortal glorified being need a teacher? or a guide? or a comforter? They do not need such things for they are totally without such mortal failings or needs. They have no need for a comforter for they are never upset, or sick or need teaching. The Word of God tells us that when we receive immortality, there will be no more tears, sickness or weakness, no need to be taught for we will then know as we are known. Glory!

Jesus was given all power in heaven and earth, after his resurrection, so why would he need a comforter or leader or guide any longer? No, He did not need the Holy Ghost, for now he has been set on the throne of God himself, and ruling as God. He has all knowledge and does not need a teacher.

This is why Jesus said, If I go not away the comforter will not come…..Jesus had all of this spirit. He could not send this spirit to his disciples until He went to heaven and was crowned by the spirit of the Lord God and then set on the throne of God.

Then he no longer had this Holy Ghost and he could then sent it back down on the disciples and any others who meet the requirements. We are all given the Spirit by measure; only the part that God allows us to have; but not so with Jesus; He had this entire Spirit, without measure.

But when we all have this Spirit we can do the very same works that Jesus did, for it is the Holy Ghost, or God in us, doing the works.

Now I have shown you what the Holy Ghost was given to us for, I will show you more of what kind of Spirit his is and why we will not need this spirit into eternity. This Holy Ghost spirit is like the servant who was sent by Abraham to get a bride for Isaac. The camels represent this Spirit, as Rebecca rode on the camels to go to Isaac. After she go to Isaac, she no longer needed the camels.

Luke 9King James Version (KJV)

9 Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases.

2 And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick.

Jesus gave his disciples power over devils and to cure diseases and the preach the kingdom of God and to heal the sick. This is what the spirit of the Holy Ghost does. He is sent for salvation and healing and a teacher.

52 And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.

53 And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem.

54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what MANNER of spirit ye are of.

56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men’s lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

Now here is the secret to dividing this Holy Ghost spirit from the spirit of FIRE.

Remember that Elijah of old, had called down fire from heaven and destroyed the Baal prophets….well this is what the disciples were referring to and wanting to do. They wanted to do as Elijah and call down FIRE from heaven and consume these people.

But Jesus rebuked them and said, Ye know not what MANNER (or kind of spirit) you are of.

The Son of man did not come to destroy men’s lives, but to SAVE THEM.

Why? It is because he had the Holy Ghost which is the comforter, the healer, teacher and guide, leading men to SALVATION.

Jesus never attempted to call down fire from heaven. He did not allow his disciples to do this thing. They received the baptism of the HOLY GHOST, on the day of Pentecost. They did not RECEIVE the baptism of FIRE. I can prove that, but will not in this message, for this is going to be a long message. (Only those who have received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, will be given the Baptism of Fire; Joel 2 proves this.)

Jesus taught his disciples to not resist evil, but turn the other cheek. Do not return railing for railing. Give to those who ask of you; heal the sick, preach the gospel. baptize sinners. if they ask you to a mile, go twain. If they ask for your coat, give them your cloak also. If they hit you on one side, turn the other side.

Jesus allowed men to spit in his face, beat him, curse him, put a heavy cross on his back, a crown of thorns on his head and then nail him to that cross and let him die. Why? He said, I am MEEK AND LOWLY. I do not have a place to lay my head. Take up your cross and follow me. If they throw you in jail for serving me, just go there praising God. This, people, is the nature of a true Christian, one who has the Holy Ghost.

This is a portrait of a Holy Ghost filled person, including Jesus. This is the LAMB of God; meek and lowly and obedient, even to death. His disciples followed him, even to death. They had the HOLY GHOST. Elijah had told Elisha IF YOU SEE ME WHEN I GO, my spirit will come on you.

Jesus told his disciples, after you see me GO, return to Jerusalem and my Spirit will come on you….so they received the HOLY GHOST. The Lamb of God.

BUT NOW….WATCH THAT LAMB TURN INTO A RAGING LION..

11 Thessalonians 1: 6 Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation to them that trouble you;

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

Look at this…when Jesus is revealed from heaven, he comes in FLAMING FIRE….YES, HERE IS THAT FIRE SPIRIT WHICH ELIJAH MANIFESTED.

Taking vengeance on them that know not God and do not obey the gospel. They shall be punished with everlasting destruction….when he comes to be glorified in his saints. These saints are NOT meek and lowly, allowing others to hit them, spit on them and mock them. What then?

Rev 11: 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.

6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

The false teaching of the whore church says these two witnesses are actual 2 men. Nope, that is not what Scripture teaches. The Apostles were the first witness, witnesses the Holy Ghost, in the Book of Acts. But this other witness, is in Rev 11, moving under the SPIRIT OF FIRE. They have FIRE coming out of the mouth, OR THE WORDS THEY SPEAK.

With these words, they torment folks who live after the flesh, or earth.

They are not told to turn the other cheek. They are told, If any man will hurt them, fire coming out of their mouth will DEVOUR their enemies, as Elijah did. Spirit of fire. ….this is not a meek and lowly spirit. It is full of vengeance and punishment on evil folks.

How do I know this is not just 2 men but a whole group, here:

Psalm 149: 4 For the Lord taketh pleasure in his people: he will beautify the meek with salvation.

5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.

6 Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a two-edged sword in their hand;

7 To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people;

8 To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron;

9 To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the Lord.

God has beautified the MEEK, (those who had the Holy Ghost) with SALVATION. Beautified signifies an immortal body. These people, all the saints of God, have a two-edged sword in their hand to execute VENGEANCE and punishments on the people. They bind their kings with chains and their nobles with fetters of iron and execute on them the judgment written in the Book of the Lord.

Now that is no meek and lowly spirit of a Lamb. It is a raging, powerful, devouring spirit of a LION. This is the LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH. It is Jesus Christ and all his true people, who are now filled with the baptism of FIRE. In Joel 2 it proves these are two different baptisms, at two different times, to two different groups of people = the two witnesses. Glory to God.

Here is a description of the Lion Jesus:

Rev 19: 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

He doth judge and MAKE WAR. HIS EYES A FLAME OF FIRE. Clothed with a vesture dipped in blood.

Out of his mouth goes a sharp sword, with-which to SMITE THE NATIONS. He rules them with that rod of iron that we saw in Psalm 149. Now this is surely not a meek lamb is it? No way. This one has a spirit of FIRE; not the holy ghost.

20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

This raging Lion now takes the beast kingdom and cast it alive into a lake of FIRE. The remnant is SLAIN with the sword coming out of his MOUTH = WORDS THAT HE SPEAKS.

This is no meek and lowly lamb. This is a raging Lion.

Rev 18: 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Here these witnesses with fire coming out their mouths burn this whore church with fire and bring the plagues on her, as told in Psalm 149….this honour have all his saints.

One last scripture proving this returning Jesus is not a Lamb but a roaring Lion:

Isaiah 63King James Version (KJV)

63 Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.

2 Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the winefat?

3 I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

4 For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come.

The day of vengeance is in his heart when he returns in flaming fire to redeem his chosen people, the adoption, the redemption of their bodies = glorification.

The Lamb has become a raging LION.

Amen.

1Sam2:; 30 Wherefore the Lord God of Israel saith, I said indeed that thy house, and the house of thy father, should walk before me for ever: but now the Lord saith, Be it far from me; for them that honour me I will honour, and they that despise me shall be lightly esteemed. 
31 Behold, the days come, that I will cut off thine arm, and the arm of thy father’s house, that there shall not be an old man in thine house. 
32 And thou shalt see an enemy in my habitation, in all the wealth which God shall give Israel: and there shall not be an old man in thine house for ever. 
33 And the man of thine, whom I shall not cut off from mine altar, shall be to consume thine eyes, and to grieve thine heart: and all the increase of thine house shall die in the flower of their age.

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~~ Whose Word is in your mouth? ~~ By: Jo Smith — July 26, 2006

De 18:13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God. De 18:14 For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

De 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

De 18:16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not. 18:17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.

De 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. De 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

De 18:21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 18:22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

Notice verse 18. God promised to raise up a prophet from among their brethren, which means he would be a man just like them. He would be from among these Jewish people. He will be a prophet like unto Moses. But what is so significant about this prophet? God said, I WILL PUT MY WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.

So, who is this speaking of? Let the Word of God reveal it to you:

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

Now see that it is verified here in John 14, that God the Father put these words into Jesus’ mouth. So it was Jesus whom Moses prophesied would come and have God’s Word in his mouth. This is how Jesus could speak as if it were God himself speaking, for He knew that it was God’s Word He was speaking. He said I speak not of myself, meaning not from my own thoughts.

So now, watch this: Acts 2:14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:

See here that Peter told the people to hearken to MY WORDS. So how could Peter say hearken to MY WORDS? Because he knew, just as Jesus had known, that he was speaking God’s Word. He knew that Jesus had spoken God’s Word. He knew that God had put HIS words into the mouth of Jesus. He knew that he was also speaking the same Words which came out of the mouth of Jesus. So he knew he could say the same thing: the words I speak are NOT mine, but the Lord’s who sent me.

These same words are SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE. They are the Words of God, which He put into the mouth of Jesus to give to us. Peter then had these same Words of God in his mouth. He spoke only the true Word of God.

John 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.

Now this proves that it was Jesus whom Moses spoke of in the law and the prophets.

So we see then that Peter could say the same thing which Jesus said, the words I speak are not mine, but the one who sent me. We find that Paul said he taught them only what was written in the law and prophets. So Paul was also speaking these same words of God.

All the prophets said this is the Word of the LORD. John said the revelation of Jesus was given to him by God. He said it was a revelation given to Jesus by God. So I am asking each one who reads this message, check to see whose words are you speaking? Who put their words into your mouth? If it is not the truth which is WRITTEN in God’s Word, then it is Satan’s words you are speaking and believing. Can you truly say, the words I speak are not mine, but the Lord’s who sent me? If not, then you need to stop speaking, pray and allow God to put his words into your heart.

Each message I write or speak, I always pray first for God to put his words into my mouth and heart and let it be just exactly as He would speak it. I fully believe He does just this.

If I cannot go to the Word of God and READ you what I am saying, then it is not God’s Word, for if it is God’s Word, it will be WRITTEN in His Book.

Which Book can you place your full confidence into and say, this is the Word of God? If you do not have a Written Word, which you can call the absolute truth of God, then you have nothing with which to prove a thing. Then you do not even know yourself if it is true or not.

God said prove all things and hold fast to that which is good. Only the truth is good. The truth is Written in God’s Book. Do you have God’s Book? If not, then how can you expect to ever know any truth? If you think that the Book you read has errors in it, is full of contradictions, then you have absolutely nothing in which you can place your faith. You cannot possibly even know any truth. If even one thing you say or believe crosses even one verse of Scripture, then know that it is wrong. You have the wrong interpretation of that verse. If it is truly God’s Word, then it cannot have error in it. Do you really think the people of today, who do not know the original languages, know more about what is true than the men who DID know both languages and DID have the anointing of God to rightly interpret the Word? If you cannot believe that God watched over His own Word and gave it to us perfect, then you are denying the true Power of God.

So check out every doctrine you believe. Is it God’s Word, did God put this into your mouth and mind, or did some church, some preacher, some theologian or scholar put these things into your mouth? Whose Word are you speaking? Whose Word do you believe? It is of utmost importance that you get this straight. Your eternal life depends upon believing the TRUTH. It depends upon loving and obeying the TRUTH. If you do not have the truth, then how can you know and love and obey the TRUTH?

I pray this will help someone to check your heart, your beliefs, and find the real truth. If not, then you will die believing a lie and be damned. Is it WRITTEN? In what Book? Do you have a Book you can put your full faith in? If not, you need to seek God while He may be found.

Holy Spirit is God

I will guess that even when shown proof of Scriptures proving that when the apostles referred to the Holy Spirit, they referred to God, that even plain and clear Scriptures stating it perfectly, the confused and lost with still not see.

Acts 5:3, 4 – “But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.” (KJV)

See? Obvious proof that lying to the Holy Ghost (Spirit) is lying to God.

John 20:28 – “And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.” (KJV)

1 John 5:20 – “And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” (KJV)

Titus 2:13 – “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;” (KJV)

Here, Jesus is called LORD (kurios) and Thomas called Him God (theos), and John again called Jesus “the true God.” Not only is Jesus the Son of God, He is also “one” with God, the only true God, eternal and co-equal and not independant of the Father.

1 Timothy 3:16 – “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” (KJV)

Now, we know. The Scriptures boldly state that the Holy Ghost, is God. Jesus is God, the Holy Spirit is God and the Father is God. Three in one God. Therefore, only “one” God remains.

They&nbsp; shall call his name Emmanuel<br><br>The erroneous teaching that the baby Jesus is Emmanuel has caused everyone to miss the real truth here, which God wants everyone to know.&nbsp; You need to know this truth.&nbsp; When you allow Scripture to teach you instead of man teaching you, then truth can come forth and set you free from lies.<br><br>Mat 1: 18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together , she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example , was minded to put her away privily. <br>20 But while he thought on these things, behold , the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying , Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. <br>22 Now all this was done , that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying , <br>23 Behold , a virgin shall be with child , and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is , God with us. 24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.<br><br>Notice verse 21.&nbsp; Realize that an angel is speaking TO Joseph here.&nbsp; Realize also that the word, ‘thou’ means YOU.&nbsp; The angel said to Joseph, YOU shall call his name JESUS, for HE, JESUS, shall save his people from their sins.<br><br>Notice this did not say save his people in their sins, but FROM their sins.&nbsp; Who did it say he would save?&nbsp; His People.&nbsp; So who is his people?&nbsp; The ones he saves.&nbsp; How simple this is and yet everyone is missing it and changing God’s word to mean something entirely different.&nbsp; They even totally miss who his people is, saying it is a natural Jewish people, no matter how sinful they are.&nbsp; Nothing could be further from the truth.&nbsp; But this has to be carefully laid out to people, one word at a time, for they have no anointing from God teaching them.&nbsp; If they read the word at all, they just skim over it so fast none of it sinks in.<br><br>OK, so we see that Joseph was to call the baby’s name, Jesus.&nbsp; We see that Jesus was to save HIS people FROM their sins.<br>Keep this in mind and read on.<br>Verse 22… All of that, the above, birth of Jesus, was done so that something ELSE could be done.&nbsp; What else?&nbsp; The fulfillment of the prophecy in Isaiah that a virgin would be with child and bring forth a son… AND…THEY…not You…shall call his name Emmanuel. <br><br>Emmanuel means God with us, hence the false doctrine that Mary gave birth to a god; that her baby was god.<br>Such wild twisting of God’s Holy word and truth!&nbsp; Stop listening to these false teachings and get into the King James Word of God and study and allow God to teach you his truth.&nbsp; If you believe a lie and receive not a love for the truth you will be sent a strong delusion and die lost.<br>What is that great delusion?&nbsp; It is that a human baby, Jesus, was God.<br><br>Now go back and carefully read down to this point.&nbsp; Jesus shall save his people from their sins, and THEY shall call his name Emmanuel.&nbsp; Who was to call his name Emmanuel?&nbsp; Not Joseph and Mary.&nbsp; It did not say YOU shall call his name Emmanuel.&nbsp; It said THEY.&nbsp; They who?&nbsp; The people that Jesus saved from their sins.<br><br>The ONLY people who can call his name Emmanuel, is the SAVED PEOPLE, which are the only ones who are HIS PEOPLE.&nbsp; Now why is this?&nbsp; It is because only the saved-from-sins people have God with them.&nbsp; We saved people are the only ones who have that Christ in us the hope of glory.&nbsp; This Christ in us is the Emmanuel.&nbsp; This Christ in us is God with us.&nbsp; This Christ is the child which the virgin, Jesus, bore.<br>God is not with sinners.&nbsp; Christ is not in sinners.&nbsp; Sinners are not his people.&nbsp; Sinners are not saved people, so saved people are not sinners.<br><br>How Satan has used religious folks to send out his evil message that Jesus cannot save us FROM our sins and that all saved people are STILL IN THEIR SINS.<br><br>Jesus is the virgin who was with child.&nbsp; We are his children.&nbsp; He was with child, mothering us.&nbsp; He brought us forth.&nbsp; Not the old person, but a new creation in Christ Jesus.&nbsp; We are baptized into the body of Christ.&nbsp; So then Christ takes up his abode in us. This Christ in us is the Emmanuel, or God with us.<br>How else are you going to have God with you?&nbsp; The human man, Jesus, is not here in person.&nbsp; So that baby in Mary’s arms was not God; not Emmanuel; not God with anyone.&nbsp; His Holy Ghost sent back into our hearts as we receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, is this God with us.<br>Praise my God for this glorious revelation and truth.<br><br>By: Jo Smith&nbsp; ~~ Oct. 29, 2010<br><br><br><br><br>

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551 (Original Message) Sent: 6/26/2007 5:59 PM
From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22 (Original Message) Sent: 5/29/2006 8:09 PM
This message is in answer the the message Coffeman wrote on contradictions in the KJV. He claimed there are contradictions between Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9. So, In this message I show the truth of this matter and PROVE there is no contradiction in these verses.
~ Ears which hear not ~ By: Jo Smith *** May 29, 2006

One of the reasons most people do not and cannot understand God’s Word is because they are strictly carnal minded. The carnal mind is not subject to the things of God, indeed cannot be. So when you see people who claim the Word of God is full of contradictions, rest assured that it is the person who is in error and not God’s Word.

Now we have those who claim that between Acts 9: 7 and Acts 22: 9, there is a contradiction. Let’s just examine this in LIGHT of God’s Word, and not from their darkened carnal mind.

First, know that in the Scriptures there are more than one kind of ‘hearing’. One hearing is when someone is deaf naturally. The other is when the person is deaf spiritually. There are two different kinds of ‘hearing’ and ‘seeing’ in Scripture.

Let’s lay a foundation for this teaching: Luke 8:10 And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.

Now see that Jesus told them there are some who see but do not see. Contradiction? Of course not. It is spiritual talk. He said there are some who hear but do not understand. So, he proved right there that UNDERSTANDING was the kind of hearing he means. A person can certainly ‘hear’ sounds, such as if one says to you, go over there. You heard those sounds which make up the English words, Go over there. But did you UNDERSTAND what was meant? No. You do not understand where over there is. So it means actually nothing to you.

Matt. 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

13:15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and [their] ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and should understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

13:16 But blessed [are] your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

Now in the above Verses, Jesus fully explains this principal of hearing but not understanding and seeing but not really seeing (perceiving or understanding). He said their ears are dull of hearing. Is he saying they cannot hear sounds? NO. This is not what he meant. He meant they are carnal minded and cannot HEAR spiritually, or understand truth.

Then Jesus said blessed are your eyes, for they SEE; and your ears, for they HEAR.

So, who are the blessed? They are the ones to whom God giveth understanding of the Word. These blessed ones can understand things spiritually. This is the kind of hearing and seeing we are dealing with in Scripture.

He said they hear, but do not hear. They see, but do not see. Contradiction? Only to those who have ears which do not hear and eyes which cannot see. These are the people who claim there are contradictions in God’s Word, the KJV. They think this because they can only read with a carnal mind. They cannot hear truth. They cannot see truth. So to them it is lies. But it is their own darkened mind which they are hearing.

Now for more proof that Scriptural hearing is understanding: Luke 2:43 And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not [of it].

2:44 But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day’s journey; and they sought him among [their] kinsfolk and acquaintance.

2:45 And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him.

2:46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.

2:47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.

Now the above is not telling us that Jesus could hear sounds. It is saying he understood what the doctors were saying. They were astonished at his UNDERSTANDING, not the fact that his natural ears could ‘hear’ sounds!

People, quit being babies in your own understanding. Grow up! Ask God to give you a spiritual mind so you can understand truth. Your soul depends on knowing and loving truth.

Acts 28:25 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,

28:26 Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:

28:27 For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with [their] eyes, and hear with [their] ears, and understand with [their] heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and [that] they will hear it.

Now don’t you see that Paul taught the very same thing here? He said those Jews could ‘hear’ sounds, but could not HEAR. This meant they could not understand Spiritual things. They were strictly carnal minded. Then he said the gospel would be sent to the Gentiles and they would ‘HEAR’ it. This meant that the Gentiles would be able to HEAR spiritual, or understand.

Luke 14:35 It is neither fit for the land, nor yet for the dunghill; [but] men cast it out. He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Now is that saying if you have natural ears to let yourself hear sounds? Of course not. He is saying if you have ears, listen and HEAR spiritual truth. This hearing means to understand. It does not mean to catch sounds on your eardrums. (I must spell this out for the ignorant, who have ears which are dull of hearing.)

Rev. 1:3 Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand.

Now that verse is telling that it is blessed if one can hear, or understand, the words of this prophecy. It does not mean if you can catch the sound when someone reads it out loud to you.

Rev. 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Now if one has a natural ear, does he have to be told to hear with it? No. He is telling us to understand the things one reads in the Word. It is saying if you have a spiritual mind, then you can ‘hear’ or understand these things. If you cannot understand, then it proves you have a carnal mind, which is not subject to the things of God.

Now with this good foundation laid, let us look at the supposedly ‘contradiction’ In Acts 9:7 and Acts 22:9.

Acts 9:1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,

9:2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord [said] unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

Acts 22:6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

22:7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

22:8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

Now I have shown without a doubt that some hearing is on the natural eardrums, and other times God is speaking of understanding spiritual things. So that is all which is involved here. Those men with Paul heard sounds on their eardrums. They saw light with their natural eyes. But they did not understand a thing which was going on there in the spiritual realm.

Their natural ear drums caught sound, but they did not ‘HEAR’, or understand the voice which talked with Paul. Only Paul had this understanding. Only Paul was catching the spiritual truth being revealed here. Only the spiritual minded will understand this message. The darkened, carnal minds, seeking to disprove God’s Word, will go on in their darkness of night, spiritually. They will not come to God, Light, Truth, that they might understand, or hear with their spiritual ears, and see with spiritual eyes, so they can be healed and saved.

See, that it said they heard a voice, but then Paul said they heard not the voice of him that spoke to Paul. They actually heard sounds, but they did not hear the voice speaking to Paul. This was in the spirit. They did not ‘hear’ Jesus’ voice speaking to Paul, even though they did heard the sound of voice. They heard not with understanding what Jesus was saying. This was spoken only to Paul. Jesus can speak right to me, in the midst of others, being present, and they will not hear it. It is in the spirit.

So, all I can say to the one who rejoiced, set up !!!! Marks of excitement, thinking he had proven the KJV a lie, it is you are the liar. It is you who is deceived and in darkness, having ears which hear not and eyes which see not. It was only your own darkened mind which thought these things were contradictions. I have proven to anyone who can ‘hear’ that none of the things you mentioned were contradictions, but only misunderstanding on your part. He that hath ears, let him HEAR what the Spirit is saying. He that hath eyes, let him see.

Blessed are the eyes which see what ye see and the ears which HEAR what the Spirit says.

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evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.

Ac 10:4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. Ac 10:5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:

Ac 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat

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Ac 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

Ac 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. Ac 10:16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

Three times Peter saw this same vision in which God told him to rise and kill and eat all manner of animals. Not so, Lord. I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. See? How many of you today would say the very same thing, concerning this vision? Huh? See, God had already commanded them NOT TO EAT OF THE UNCLEAN ANIMALS, yet here a vision is, telling Peter to kill and EAT all of these unclean animals.

Was it of God or was Peter just a proud, delusional person? Think on this. How do you really believe about the NT workings of God with his people? Was that a true VISION from God or a delusion from Satan?

By: Jo Smith Aug. 31, 2008

Are men ‘gods’ or angels? ~~

1.- Scriptures proving a definite difference between MEN AND ANGELS.:

John 10: 35. If he called them gods, , unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

There is a very false and dangerous doctrine in the world today which uses the above Scripture (or rather misuses it)– to say and teach that men on this earth are gods. Some even go so far as to claim that they are equal to God.

I myself sat under this teaching many years ago. So I decided to search out if this were true or not. In my heart I knew it could not be true, but I wanted Scripture proof. And I found it. I wrote this message Feb. 14, 1986.

Here is exactly why most people are under total delusions and false beliefs today — they do not take the time to search the Scriptures as Jesus told us to do and prove all things. You will never know truth until you start doing this.

This doctrine also states that men are angels and visa/versus. But is there any truth to this? Well lets let the Word of God prove it or not.

Heb. 1: 6. And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

7. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

3. But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?

14. Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

Psm. 104: 4. Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:

Now this Scripture establishes that angels are spirits; a flame of fire. They were told to worship God’s Son, Jesus.

Heb. 2 5. For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.

6. But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?

7. Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:

8. Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

9. But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

(I would just give the Scripture reference to shorten this – but I know by experience that very few people would take the time to hunt them up and read them – so I will just quote them here. You can read it or not- it is up to you. The Word is here for all who desire to study and learn truth).

Now see that verse 5 said the world is not put in subjection to the angels. Keep this in mind. It is important to understanding this message. Verse 7 says that man was made lower than the angels and that man was set over the works of God’s hands, not the angels.

Verse 8 states again that all things were put in subjection under man (Jesus).

Verse 9 said Jesus was made lower (state of man) than angels for the suffering of death. So this is showing that as angels, he could not have died.

13. And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.

14. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

15. And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

16. For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

17. Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

18. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

Verse 13 Jesus is speaking of us his children which God gave to him.

V.14- says that since we are of flesh and blood, Jesus also partook of flesh and blood. This proves Jesus was not an angel.

V. 16–Positively proves Jesus did not have the nature of angels but took on himself the seed of Abraham. To say otherwise is to call this Word a lie.

This also proves the lie William Branham said that God created in Mary the egg and sperm therefore Jesus did not receive any human flesh to be completely false. See how the Word of God proves all truth and disproves all the lies man has made up? It is so important to go by the Word of God and not man’s teachings. Branham said Mary was not the mother of Jesus- that she was only an incubator. Such an ungodly lie!

V.17 again states that Jesus was made like unto us his brethren.

If you will read Psalms 148 (not going to quote this to save space) you will see that verses 1-6 speak of angels and all the host of heaven telling them to praise the Lord. Verses 7 – 14 is speaking of the earth and the children of men here as a total different section from those heavenly beings in v. 1-6.

Genesis 32 1. And Jacob went on his way, and the angels of God met him.

2. And when Jacob saw them, he said, This is God’s host: and he called the name of that place Mahanaim.

Here we have again proof that angels are God’s host. Heb. 1: 7 said angels are a flame of fire.

They are the chariots and horses of fire encamping around us.

11Kings 6: 17.

And Elisha prayed, and said, Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the Lord opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
11Kings 2: 11. And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

So this establishes that angels are these horses and chariots of fire. See they are a flame of fire. This is the heavenly creation of gods, angels. Same nature as God. Heb. 12: 29. For our God is a consuming fire.

I am going to have to just give you some of the references: this will be much too long if I continue to quote them all.

Psm. 90? 3-10 shows that children of men are like grass; not as a flame of fire and that they must be strong to live 80 years.

Psm. 103: 13. Like as a father pitieth his children, so the Lord pitieth them that fear him.

14. For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.

15. As for man, his days are as grass: as a flower of the field, so he flourisheth.

16. For the wind passeth over it, and it is gone; and the place thereof shall know it no more.

20. Bless the Lord, ye his angels, that excel in strength, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word.

21. Bless ye the Lord, all ye his hosts; ye ministers of his, that do his pleasure.

This is a lot of writing but this one is much to necessary to this study to leave it out:

V. 14 proves our frame is just dust. V.15 is again saying we are as grass. V. 20 proves the angels EXCEL in strength. They are not as dust. They are spirits.

11Peter 2: 0. But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.

11. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.

12. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Verse 11 proves angels are greater in power and might than dust man.

Michael, the arch angel, disputed with Satan over the body of Moses. He came to Daniel and is still alive and fighting the dragon at the end of this world – Rev. 12: 17, thousands of years later! Man’s days are 70, and if the make it to 80 it is by reason of strength! Psm. 9-: 10.

Gabriel, an angel came to Daniel; then to Mary and Zacharius– HUNDREDS of years later! These are not flesh beings, but Spirit beings (gods). If they are flesh-men HOW could they live this long?

Man is as grass- is alloted 70 years; 80 if he is strong.

Now I will give some Scriptures which proving angels and gods are the same beings.

Psalms 82: 1.

God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
God stands in the congregation of the MIGHTY. These mighty ones are not men, which are weak and dust, able to live only about 80 years. No, these gods are the angels who are greater in might and power than man.

2. How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

Here God is rebuking these angels because they judge unjustly and accept the persons of the wicked? God is asking them how long are they going to do this evil.

3. Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

4. Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

In these two verses God is telling the angels to do what he gave them to do = which is: defend the poor

5. They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

6. I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

7. But

ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
See, he said these angels are gods – children of the most High – which is God the Father. He is the Father of SPIRITS. Jesus is the Father of the dust man. See, He said to them BUT ye shall die LIKE MEN. Why? Because they sinned, therefore God has set for them to be cast into hell. Then they say to him: v.8. for they acknowledge they did not judge rightly, so they tell God to do this and judge the earth.

8. Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

Psm. 34: 7. The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear him, and delivereth them.

Psm 146 3. Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.

Now see the proof that it is angels which stay around us and deliver us? This is the work of invisible spirits – not visible man. See that in man is no help?

Psm. 97: 7. Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods.

8. Zion heard, and was glad; and the daughters of Judah rejoiced because of thy judgments, O Lord.

9. For thou, Lord, art high above all the earth: thou art exalted far above all gods.

This goes with the Scripture in Heb. 1: 6-telling these spirit beings, gods, to worship him.

Dan. 6: 22 – shows an ANGEL delivered Daniel from the mouth of Lions. No mere flesh man could have done this. …. a job given to the ‘gods’ or ‘angels’…. Psm. 82 & Psm. 134: 7.

Psm. 97: 9- shows Jesus exalted above ‘gods’.

Heb. 1: 4 – shows Jesus exalted above ‘angels’.

PROOF that the Word came to ANGELS:

John 10: 35. If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came…….

Revelation 1: 1. The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev. 10: 9 10–John received the Word (Book) from an angel.

Rev. 22: 6, 8, 10, & 16–Shows that an angel was giving John the Word. Also the angel refused to be worshiped.

Rev. 14: 6- shows an angel had the everlasting gospel to PREACH to them on earth.

Gal. 1: 8– Paul said an angel from heaven could preach the Word (either in truth or falsely.)

Rev. 18: 1-3—Shows an angel from Heaven had the Word to proclaim what happened to Babylon.

Rev. 14: 14-15– shows an angel had the Word to tell Jesus when to reap the earth.

Rev. 1: 20–Seven angels are over the seven churches – giving them the word.

Rev. cp. 8 and 16 – shows angels sound the seven trumpets of God’s Word and also the seven vials.

Ex. 23: 20- 23–shows God sent an angel to lead Moses and to keep him. Moses was told to obey that angel. This is what Paul was showing in Heb. 2: 2 that angel’s every word has to be obeyed.

Psm. 91: 11, 12– shows God gave His angels charge over His own Son – to keep him and to bear him up in their hands.. something no mere man could have done.– PROVING that the ANGELS are the ‘gods’ spoken of in Psm. 82 to DELIVER God’s people.

Matt. 4: 6 , 11– shows ANGELS came and MINISTERED to Jesus after the tempter left him – proving the ANGELS are God’s ministers.

Matt. 16: 53 — Jesus witnessed that if he asked His Father, He would send him more than 12 legions of ANGELS to DELIVER Him —- He needed not man’s help. He knew angels were the O.T. ‘gods’ ordained by God to deliver poor and needy man.

Luke 22; 43 —- shows and angel came from Heaven to Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane as he prayed for deliverance from the cup – and STRENGTHENED him. (no man came down and strengthened God’s Son—- they all forsook him.)

In Ex.22: 28 — Moses gave the people a command not to revile the ‘gods’ . Now we know he could not have meant an idol of false god. He meant those angels who have charge over us. In the N.T. they are not referred to as ‘gods’; for God gave Jesus power over all flesh. John 17: 2. Now Jesus is our God; not the angels.

Acts 27: 23, 24 — An angel of God came to Paul in time of trouble (for they are God’s ministers to His Saints). No mere man came to Paul on that boat and told him they would all be safe.

Acts 14: 9-18—- this shows the people thought Paul and Barnabas were ‘gods’ — because of the healing. But in verse 15, Paul said NOT SO – HE SAID THEY WERE JUST MEN LIKE THEM. See?

If Paul believed this modern-day theory that Christians are ‘gods’ – WHY did he deny it? He did NOT believe or teach such a thing – neither did the other apostles.

James 5: 17 — He referred to Elias as a MAN of like passions as us – never referred to him as a ‘god’.

In Acts 12: 21, 23 –Herod made a speech and the people said it was the voice of a ‘god’ and not of a MAN. An ANGEL smote him with worms (something no mere man could have done) because he let the glory go to a ‘god’ instead of GOD.

The living God is always spelled with a capitol G. The other ‘gods’ are always spelled with a small ‘g’.

Notice in Acts 10: 3-7– an ANGEL told Cornelius to send for Peter (no man told him that —- see the Scriptures are FULL of the work angels do for God – ministering to His people – caring for us!

Now, v.25 – 26 – when Cornelius attempted to WORSHIP PETER, Peter stopped him and said, “I myself also am a MAN”. See He never called himself a ‘god’ nor allowed someone to worship him. He never called himself ‘Christ’ either. Anyone who does is False. Matt. 24: 5,23, 24.

Matt. 18: 10–Jesus said the angels do always behold the face of the Father and watch over little children.

1John 4: 12; John 6: 46; & John 5: 37 —- all prove NO MAN (except Jesus) has ever seen God. But he said the angels ALWAYS behold His face!

So you see, the angels are as Peter said, a higher, greater form of life than man. But Jesus said in the Resurrection we would be equal to angels, but not equal to God & Jesus for they are higher than the angels — Heb. 1: 4 . WE WILL NEVER BE AS GREAT AS GOD; NOR EQUAL TO GOD!

Romans 3: 4 – LET GOD BE TRUE BUT EVERY MAN A LIAR.

God gave His Word to angels — they gave it to the Prophets — they gave it to men. They wrote it down. Now we get it from the written Scriptures. No more Prophets telling us the Word, except that which is already written in the word. But it was the angels, not the prophets to whom he referred when he said he called them gods to whom the Word came.

All the preceding Scriptures are God’s Word. May His blessing and anointing be upon all who read this for true understanding.

Jo Smith

Feb. 14, 1986

Freeborn,

Date Posted：12/29/2013 3:45 PM
It is a great question, to which there is a very definant right answer.
Since God is a spirit, and not physical, he has a law by which things run.

the MALE is the Father, or the one who begets other life. (God has never been GIVEN LIFE BY ANYONE; HE IS LIFE).

the FEMALE is the MOTHER, or the one who carries this seed of life, and gives birth to it.

Now follow that: all of you. This is TRUTH REVEALED TO ME BY GOD.

God is the only one in existence who can beget life. He is the originator of life.

But God placed that seed of LIFE into a body of another being, to bring forth another life.

At first God placed the seed of life, into the earth to bring forth vegetable life.
Then he placed the seed of life into animal bodies and brought forth living animals.
Then he placed the breath of life into a human body and brought forth life; but all of this was mortal life.

Since the first man sinned and became disobedient, God saw fit to bring forth higher life, spirit eternal life. God then placed that SEED OF ETERNAL LIFE into another human man, called JESUS.
This Jesus then, was to God, a FEMALE. He received this seed of life from God, at his baptism, and grew, inside himself, the SON OF GOD.
This son of God was ‘birthed’ when God raised this man, Jesus, from the dead.

He was then given the same power of transporting LIFE TO OTHERS, by God himself.

So now to us, Jesus is our Father, or a MALE. – = giver of LIFE.

So we are, all of us, men and women, FEMALE TO JESUS.

Jesus is now an acting MALE, OR GIVER OR BEGETTER OF LIFE….to us.

Good Evening Group,

God has NEVER come in human form. Yes, many scripture. god is not a man. This statement has and always will be true.
People add their own interpretation to such verses as, God was manifest in flesh. it does not mean that ‘robed himself in human flesh. No such statement is in God’s word.
F L E S H happens to mean SOMETHING TO EAT.

Jesus did teach us, else we would know nothing. seems most do know nothing. Jesus fed us the word which God had fed to Jesus.
Deut 18.

I just thought I would put this question out here. Since it does appear that John the Baptist, before he was born was filled with the Holy Ghost. Please read this scripture,and ask yourself: “Could John the Baptist been GOD?

39 And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda; 40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth. 41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:

Since the Holy Ghost is GOD, then I would suspect that John the Baptist was GOD while in the womb of his mother. Also, keep in mind that John the Baptist was filled with the Holy Ghost before he was born, and Jesus was filled with the Holy Ghost when he got baptized by John the Baptist..

I just thought it was interesting to point that out.

Blessings.
Tweety

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RESPONSES 1:

No, JtB was just a man who was filled with the Holy Spirit in the womb. If he was God, God would have told us. I am filled with the Holy Spirit, since I am saved, and I am not God.
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Response 2:

“I say to you, among those born of women there is no one greater than John; yet he who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.” (Luke 7:28 NASB)

That’s Jesus, speaking of John the Baptist, after John’s messengers had come to inquire of Him (Jesus) as to whether or not He (Jesus) was the “Expected One” (verse 19).

Clearly, no one in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than God Himself, so it is not possible that John the Baptist was God. He was, however, filled with and empowered by the Holy Spirit.
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That is good; bet they never even gave it a thought, as to why you asked this.  One baby has HG before birth.  The other one get HG at age  30.  Yet they think Jesus is God, and John was not.

The book of Revelation is a prophetical book; therefore it had to have been written by a Prophet.

Luke 16:16–The LAW and the PROPHETS were UNTIL JOHN: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Luke 7:28—For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist; but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

See, this is showing that prophets did not come into the era of the kingdom of God; the very least of us, are greater than the greatest prophet.

There were no prophets, receiving the Word of God, since John the Baptist. Paul, and the other N.T. writters only wrote epistles; not prophet books. Revelation is the only prophet book in the N.T. Scriptures; therefore, it had to have been written by a prophet; of which John the Baptist was the last one.

John 1:6—There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.

v7–The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the LIGHT, that all men through him might believe.

v8—He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

Rev.1:1–The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to show unto his servants (prophets)–things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his SERVANT JOHN:

v2–Who bare RECORD of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

Now, bearing witness and bearing record means the same thing. So, John the Baptist is the one whom God sent to bare record, witness of Jesus, the Light.

Another thing, after the resurrection, Jesus opened the understanding of all his disciples, including John, the disciple. Jesus taught these men himself.

But, notice, that the John who wrote Revelation was taught by an angel. The angel of the Lord brought this Revelation to John the Baptist; for this is the way the prophets received the Word: God gave the Word to angels (whom He called gods)—then the angels delivered the Word to prophets. N.T. people do not receive the Word this way.

We are taught by the Holy Ghost. He will lead you and guide you into all truth. John the disciple was taught by Jesus; not an angel. John the Baptist was the one who was sent to prepare the way for Jesus; he is the one who bare record of Jesus. He was the last O.T. prophet.

Jo

Freeborn,

Date Posted：03/03/2015 2:07 PM

How long will people continue to call Jesus a lie? You say you do not call Jesus a lie? Yes, you do. How? All who say that Jesus claimed to be God, are calling Jesus a lie.

People say that because Jesus said, I am such and such, and because he said, before Abraham was, I am…..that this is Jesus claiming to be God.

How so? See, here is where you are calling Jesus a lie….>>

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

He said, these words you hear me speak are NOT MINE. …They are his that sent me.
so when you say, he said, I am God. you call him a lie.
His words were not his own.
He was speaking the Father’s Words.

More plainly:
John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

Date Posted：03/04/2015 10:39 PM

Jesus Christ was not God. Jesus was a man, made in all points like unto us, his brethren. BUT… after his resurrection, God set this glorified MAN on the THRONE OF GOD. This means that Jesus Christ is NOW THE GOD OF THIS WHOLE WORLD. He is the one we must worship, or be lost.
Get this, all people.

Even though Jesus is the MAN WHO IS the mediator between us and God, HE IS GOD FOR GOD SET HIM THERE.

to any and all who think allah or some other idol is god, you are into very much trouble and darkness, leading to eternal destruction.

Jesus Christ was GIVEN ALL POWER in heaven and earth, by God the creator.
No one else; no other (fake) god has any POWER at all. IT IS ALL IN THE HANDS OF JESUS CHRIST….. NO OTHER.

If God, (not allah, but the God kingdom of a spiritual being)… gave all power to Jesus Christ, there is no other to whom we may turn for help or salvation.

Jesus does NOT share this power or authority with any other ‘gods’. so to all who think allah or some other idol is going to get you through, YOU ARE TERRIBLY MISTAKEN AND MISLED AND HEADED TO DESTRUCTION.

You cannot serve two masters. Either turn to Jesus with all your heart or stop trying to play between two grounds; (or gods). [if you think allah or some other has power or ability to help you, or you wish to worship, then you do admit that you think Jesus is a lie and the KJV is a lie]

by: JO Smith

here is part two of this message: