Build On The True Foundation

Lord have mercy. People, I was seen the devil at work tonight. I mean folks claiming to be God’s ministers, are full of satan…making mockery of God. and thousands of ignorant folks eating it up. I sat back in horror watching these utubes of satan’s ministers acting like mad=men, mocking Jesus.

If ever you got sincere with God, it better be now. there are so many wild, trashy lies out there, to deceive anyone who is not solidly rooted and grounded in truth of Scripture.
….and being led of the true Holy Ghost.

I am going to post what I said in a video on another thread. I want to do this because if anyone comments on this I do not want it to go to the thread that I originally posted this on. I just a few minutes ago tell my brother to look up look up to the bosom of ABRAHAM in others words look up and see God. I had not even seen this video when I said those words. 

not trying to do a full message now; just going to show a few things. this chapter is great and needs to be dealt with, one verse at a time. but I cannot do that much typing now.

isa 2; 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Me: the swords were from the law system…now the apostles plow or preach to save souls. they also prune to make the ‘tree’ bear better fruit.

not trying to do a full message now; just going to show a few things. this chapter is great and needs to be dealt with, one verse at a time. but I cannot do that much typing now.

isa 2; 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Me: the swords were from the law system…now the apostles plow or preach to save souls. they also prune to make the ‘tree’ bear better fruit.

CALLING JESUS A LIE:

Rev 12: 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Most people/churches, claim that the serpent is some kind of animal/snake, etc. Then these same people claim that satan is an angel.

Rev 12: 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Most people/churches, claim that the serpent is some kind of animal/snake, etc. Then these same people claim that satan is an angel.

Rev 12: 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Most people/churches, claim that the serpent is some kind of animal/snake, etc. Then these same people claim that satan is an angel.

Rev 12: 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Most people/churches, claim that the serpent is some kind of animal/snake, etc. Then these same people claim that satan is an angel.

Rev 12: 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Most people/churches, claim that the serpent is some kind of animal/snake, etc. Then these same people claim that satan is an angel.

Part 2]

The Lord God made a fleshly world of the dust of the ground. This was made with his very hands. Adam is not mentioned in chapter one. He is not named there. He was made in chapter two BEFORE any animals. See it does not fit chapter one in any kind of way. This is a world made by the Lord God to match the creation of chapter one or to be ‘wife�?to the Spirit world. Notice both male and female were in chapter one in the image of God. So the female has a female spirit eternal in the heavens. The male has a male spirit in the heavens. But to God all human life is female because all spirit life is the life or male who has the seed of life. So the dust creation is the female of the universe. But in the world is both male and female. But the male is female to God, for God must place His Seed of life into a man in order for that man to have life or bear a child of God for God. God must place His Seed of life into a woman for that woman to have LIFE and bear a child of God or Son of God for God. This will be complete at our resurrection. Now the ‘child�?is in our womb by the Holy Ghost.

God made a spirit world to give life. The Lord God made a fleshly world as a receiver of this life. When God places his seed or Spirit or Holy Ghost into us, that causes the conception of the future child of God which we bear to God. The wedding or union of the bride and bridegroom will be at the resurrection. Remember that Joseph did not ‘know�?Mary until AFTER the birth of the child. It is the same pattern we must go by. But now look at Adam in Gen. two. Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

See that the Lord God gave immortality to Adam right here at the start. So Adam was in great power for he was already in a glorified state. He already had that oneness with God. That ‘breath of life�?means that he was given the life or power of God. He was thus the anointed cherub of Eze. 28. He had life and power and glory and beauty which we know nothing about, which can only come as a result of glorification or immortality. When he sinned God stripped him of this glory, so he fell. He went from Grace to law or from life to death. This was actually the first fall of Babylon. Yet even then he was still of a great life span and power which we have never seen. The reason? God had breathed LIFE into him.

After our conception in the womb by the Holy Ghost, then we must grow and mature in the womb by faith. Then at our resurrection we will be given our immortal body from that Spirit world, eternal in the heavens. At that time the immortal body will swallow up the mortal body and we will become ONE or married to God. Each of us has a Spirit or body in that heavenly world. Now Jesus was the same. But the revelation which God gave me last night, which really reeled me is this:

Now before I show it, you must realize that Jesus was God’s servant in this life. Most Scripture which seems to be speaking of the natural Israel is about Jesus. Jesus was the true Israel. Jerusalem was his Heavenly name. Jesus was a human man. He was the servant of God spoken of in Isa. 42. This is why those who believe that Jesus was God will never ever be able to see the real truth. That lie blinds you to all of the Word of God. It keeps you from being able to rightly discern any of the Scripture. You cannot tell who is speaking or who is being spoken to or about. Below is a lot of Scripture, but it is necessary to show you this truth that Jesus was both God’s servant and the woman in travail.

Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. [Now this proves that Jesus was God’s Servant. The Lord God has put his spirit upon Jesus. You know that Jesus himself said, The spirit of the Lord God is upon me, for He has anointed me.]

Isa 42:2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 42:3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. 42:4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law. [Surely you all know that this would HAVE to be speaking about Jesus. He is the one who brought forth judgment unto truth.]

Isa 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 42:6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 42:7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. [Now anyone who can read English can know that the “I�?doing the speaking here is the LORD. He said that he created heaven and earth. Jesus is not saying this, the LORD is saying it. It is time people get this truth and quit mangling the Scriptures. Surely you can see that the LORD said to someone other than himself, I have called thee or you. I called you, (someone else). Who is he speaking to? To the one who was a covenant of the people, to the one who is a light of the Gentiles; to the one who opened the blind eyes and brought prisoners free and those in darkness to light. Know of anyone this could be except JESUS?] I know of no other who could fit this. The LORD said I called this one and he is my servant. Do you call God a lie? If you try to say this is Jesus speaking to someone else, you must call this a lie. It is the LORD speaking to Jesus.

Isa 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Now this verse is one which throws many people into thinking this is Jesus saying I am God and I will not give my glory to anyone else but myself. See then how the false belief that Jesus is God makes them see this verse all wrong? This is God still speaking to Jesus saying I will not give my glory to anyone other than you. See no one other than Jesus has the spiritual ‘husband�?who married Jesus. And this is my astounding revelation. When you see how Jesus became ‘one�?with God at the ceremony in Heaven recorded in Rev. 4 and 5, then you will understand how Jesus is now called our God, our Father and the Almighty God.

Isa 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them. 42:10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof. 42:11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains. 42:12 Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands.

This Scripture was fulfilled in Rev. 4 and 5, at the ceremony where God set Jesus up as God to rule as God and to become wife to God. This is that great host in heaven singing this new song of praise and worship to the new LORD, Jesus. Shew! This revelation is much more glorious than the fake jesus tale that the baby of Mary was already God.

Isa 42:13 The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies. Isa 42:14 I have long time holden my peace; I have been still, and refrained myself: now will I cry like a travailing woman; I will destroy and devour at once.

Now the preceding verses or Isa 42: 13, 14, are showing the work of Jesus AFTER he was set up to rule on the throne of God. He then goes out under the first seal and starts conquering his enemies and bringing them down under his feet. See that he went back to his human life-time and showed that he had held his peace THEN, he had refrained himself THEN, he was like a travailing WOMAN then. He was the woman in travail in Rev. 12. He travailed at Calvary to give us birth. He did not attempt to defend himself at that time. He submitted to death, to obey God. Thus He was the wife of God who bore us as children to God. If you miss this, you miss all the glory and trade this glory off for a fake jesus, who has a birthday party once a year, so you can mess around with foolish, carnal junk. (your silly little presents)

Isa 42:15 I will make waste mountains and hills, and dry up all their herbs; and I will make the rivers islands, and I will dry up the pools. Isa 42:16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.

Here Jesus is showing that after his resurrection and marriage to God, he then cuts off the OT nations and led the people into the new LIGHT of Grace and straightened out the mangled doctrine of the OT leaders. The blind was the Gentiles who had never seen the LIGHT. See also how all of this proves that in His humanity Jesus was FEMALE to God. Remember also how Paul said I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you. Thus Paul shows that he was also as a woman in childbirth.

Isa 42:17 They shall be turned back, they shall be greatly ashamed, that trust in graven images, that say to the molten images, Ye are our gods.

Here Jesus prophesies of you who still keep your silly old idols of green trees, Santa Claus, Easter, Halloween with all their graven images. You will one day be greatly ashamed of your idolatry in face of the true glory of the true Jesus. You traded off this glory of revelation of truth in favor of your silly holidays; idols.

Isa 42:18 Hear, ye deaf; and look, ye blind, that ye may see. 42:19 Who is blind, but my servant? or deaf, as my messenger that I sent? who is blind as he that is perfect, and blind as the Lord’s servant? 42:20 Seeing many things, but thou observest not; opening the ears, but he heareth not. 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness’ sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

Now God is still speaking here of his servant, Jesus. How was Jesus blind and deaf? Read all of Psalms 38 and you will see it was Jesus. Most of you probably think this is about David. Here again you miss the truth of the Word by mistaking who it is speaking of. The Word of God is about Jesus. When will you learn? Here is part of that, showing that Jesus opened not his mouth as they accused him falsely.

Ps 38:9 Lord, all my desire is before thee; and my groaning is not hid from thee. 38:10 My heart panteth, my strength faileth me: as for the light of mine eyes, it also is gone from me. 38:11 My lovers and my friends stand aloof from my sore; and my kinsmen stand afar off. 38:12 They also that seek after my life lay snares for me: and they that seek my hurt speak mischievous things, and imagine deceits all the day long. 38:13 But I, as a deaf man, heard not; and I was as a dumb man that openeth not his mouth. 38:14 Thus I was as a man that heareth not, and in whose mouth are no reproofs. 38:15 For in thee, O LORD, do I hope: thou wilt hear, O Lord my God.

Now for another Scripture proving that Jesus was as the deaf man and also the woman in travail: (I am sure most of you know Isa 53 is about Jesus; You could not miss this one.)

Isa 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 53:8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. 53:9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Isa 53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 53:12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors

See that verse seven proves it was Jesus who was as a deaf person, for he opened not his mouth. This is when He was holding his peace and refraining himself. Here he is still in his human, ‘female�?mortal body, so he submits to death without defending himself. But just as soon as he is settled on the throne of God and married to God, becomes one with God, then he goes to war with his enemies. [If you think of this in the natural, you will never understand it. Of course Jesus was a human man; but spiritually he was female to God.]

See that is said the LORD is the one who bruised him and smote him. He did not do this to himself, for he had prayed NOT MY will but thine be done. As a WIFE he submitted to God’s will.

Notice in verse 11 it said his soul TRAVAILED. He was the woman in Rev. 12 who travailed to bring forth children to God. Then it said, verse 12, I (meaning the LORD) will divide HIM (meaning Jesus) a portion with the GREAT = God. And He (Jesus) shall divide the spoil with the strong; (Christians).

Jer 30:6 Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?

Now for another great chapter which is about Jesus and proves who his heavenly husband is. This is another place where people miss the great truth by not being able to discern that the Word is about Jesus:

Isa 54:1 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD. 54:2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations: spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes; 54:3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left; and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited.

Now we already proved that Jesus travailed in birth to bring forth children to God. He is the married wife. He is the one being told to enlarge the place of his tent. He is the one who inherited the Gentiles.

Isa 54:4 Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more. Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

The shame of his youth is his journey on earth as a human man. His widowhood was when God forsook him at Calvary and allowed him to die as a sinner and go into hell for us. But notice verse five. Here is the revelation of who Jesus�?husband is. It is powerful. It is glorious. His husband is his MAKER. Who was his MAKER? The Lord God who created man from the dust of the ground in Gen. two.

Isa 54:6 For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God

Here the LORD is speaking to Jesus. He called Jesus as a WOMAN forsaken in youth (his earthly journey) and forsaken at the cross. “My God, My God, why has thou FORSAKEN me?�?Jesus was grieved in spirit at the time God forsook him at Calvary. This is when God rejected Jesus and let him die as a sinner. This was his ‘widowhood�? (His old man had to die and be destroyed so the inner man could live and come into glory.)

Isa 54:7 For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee. Isa 54:8 In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer

This is the LORD still speaking to Jesus and saying I forsook you for a small moment, but with great mercies I will gather thee. (Resurrection). God hid his face from Jesus for a moment on that Cross. God is his Redeemer. How could you ever make any sense of this Scripture trying to say that Jesus is the Redeemer being spoken of here? Then who would he be speaking to? Everyone thinks this is Jesus speaking to the nation of Israel. Nothing could be further from the truth. He never forsook them for a moment. It is not written anywhere in the Word of God. See how believing that Jesus is God blinds you to the real truth being spoken here? Then you miss the real glory of Jesus as he died there alone for us. You miss the real glory and truth as God raised him up and set him on the throne of God as the Wife of God. But he was given all the same power and authority of God himself, thus bringing Jesus into the status of the MALE LIFEGIVER. Thus Jesus became our God and our Father and our Mother as He alone gives eternal LIFE to us. You, we, cannot go to the Father. We must go to Jesus. Only through Jesus will we ever have any access to the Father of Spirits. At the resurrection Jesus, as male-life-giver, will marry us. We will become one with him.

Isa 54:10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.

All the old nations and law was removed. Jesus was the one the covenant of peace is with.

Isa 54:11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires. Isa 54:12 And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles, and all thy borders of pleasant stones.

Jesus is the one who was afflicted. God afflicted him. (Isa 53). His holy city is the one being spoken of here.

Isa 54:13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.

This is speaking to Jesus of his children. (us). In Isa 8 Jesus said I and the children God has given me. All the children of Jesus will have great peace.

Isa 54:14 In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.

This is the promise of establishing the kingdom of Jesus forever. He will not be oppressed anymore.

Isa 54:15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.

This is speaking to Jesus. Everyone who comes against Jesus will fall for his sake. What a pity that everyone interprets this as being to the nation of Israel. No wonder the world practically worships those hard-hearted people! They attribute all the glory of Jesus to those people who rejected Him.

Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

And there is a great promise to Jesus which the world has mistaken and attributes this to those Israelites. That is why people get so angry when one speaks the truth that those people are the very ones who killed all the prophets and all the Christians. Yet Jesus himself laid this blame solidly on their shoulders and called them the mystery Babylon. All the prophets from Abel down died at the hands of Jerusalem. Jesus said so. So Jerusalem, the old city, is nothing but law, people in rebellion against God. This great promise that every weapon formed against Jesus is to Him, not to those rebellious people, that it shall not prosper. Every tongue which speaks against Jesus He will condemn them at the judgment. It is not a promise concerning those earthly Jews. See how far this lie of Jesus being God has taken the world away from the real truth?

Thy MAKER is thy HUSBAND. This was said to Jesus. The Lord God was the maker of this dust frame of humanity. So all who claim that Jesus was already God will never see this glory. Jesus was fully a human man. He obeyed God in all things, never doing his own will. So as the reward for this perfectly obedient life, Jesus alone was allowed to have for his Spiritual Husband, or the Spirit body which swallowed up Jesus�?mortal body and became one with him was actually THE LORD GOD! Have you any idea what this means? How great this is? The man Christ Jesus actually became ONE with the Lord God or was MARRIED to Him. His actual Spirit Body or the eternal body or house from Heaven was the Lord God. How can I word this to show you what God showed me? Lord, Give me the words.

When our earthly ‘house�?or this tabernacle, our dust body, is dissolved or dies, then we will be given a Spirit body or heavenly house from the heavenly world of Gen. one. Each of us has our own body there. It is eternal in the heavens. Jesus had an eternal body there also. But the greatness of it is that Jesus was given the Spirit of the Lord God for His eternal habitation or heavenly home or body. So you see, he became ‘married�?to the Lord God or the Lord God became his own heavenly body. Jesus merged into the Lord God, spiritually and yet also if we can use this term, physically. Can you see this? Jesus became God. Jesus was not born God on earth. Jesus did not live as God on earth. Jesus became God in Heaven at the ceremony in Rev. 4. As He walked up to the throne of God and took the ‘Book�?out of God’s own hands, this means that Jesus himself put on the body of the Lord God and became one with Him. Wow! Now this is the true glory of Jesus. Then after this took place, God himself welcomed this new Lord God to the throne of God and called Jesus God. Then everything or being in heaven, earth and anywhere else began to praise and worship this new King of Kings and Lord of Lord, the slain Lamb of God. He was now married to the Lord God. The TWO became ONE FLESH. So now the Lord God is Jesus and Jesus is the Lord God. It is truly a staggering revelation to me.

I have known for many years that Jesus was not God in flesh. I have also known that God set Jesus up on His own throne to rule as God. But I can tell you never in my wildest imagination did I see this until two nights ago. When I read that His Maker is His Husband, He revealed this to me. It thrilled my soul. Jesus is the only human being to ever be awarded to become ONE with the Lord God in this manner. The Lord God was the Spirit body given to Jesus Christ. So now Jesus is the Lord God Almighty. But he was not God while on earth. He was fully a human man. This is his reward for perfect obedience to God, his Father. God is the Father of the Spirits of all flesh. Now God is not the very same one as the Lord God. They are both God but in some different way. I see now why Paul said I have revelation which I cannot tell you, for you are not able to bear it. How could a carnal mind, believing that Mary gave birth to God and man killed God, ever understand such deep spiritual revelation as this? May God reveal it to those who wish to see the truth. Praise my God for showing me such glory.

Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Amen!

I feel very sure and strongly, that any Christian who has any true FAITH, and has exercised their ability to discern good from evil..and built up faith to obey the Word….
it is time
to BIND some of these evil mouths….shut them up…cast them out…I mean
God has sent us a NEW DAY.

From: joieSent: 8/8/2003 6:20 PMis there not many angels that proceed out of the letter and seem to be angels of lightbecause of the letter they seem that the message you hear may be from the Lord ,but is not, but is the works of the devil.(Spiritwalker)

This is amazing indeed.  As Larry told you, we were just a short while ago (today) saying this very same thing.  I am so glad to see you and Lolady coming in here with this great insight and teaching.  Praise God for this.

I have wondered my own self how the 10 commandments could be death; of satan; even though I could clearly see that it was and have been teaching this a good many years.  But still, since God wrote them with his fingers, it is hard to see that they could be death; of Satan.

But God has revealed it to me.  It came with just the same Scripture you quote. Satan is transformed as an angel of light;  his ministers also are transformed as ministers of light.  How?

Because they say truth ~~~ but the problem is they make it LAW.  Law is death.  Law demands every transgression be punished.

Remember, ~~once a LYING SPIRIT went forth from God’s presence,  with God’s permission to be a LYING SPIRIT IN THE MOUTH OF AHABS’ PROPHETS, to get Ahab to the battle so he could be killed.

See God let that lying spirit go forth from Him and deceive Ahab.  Many people claim this proves God is not true nor his word.  But they are in darkness.  If people desire evil; idols, satan, sin, God will let them have it.  He will let lying spirits go out and deceive these people.

That is exactly what happened with Moses and the Isarelites.  Moses, a man in grace, prayed for his people to find Grace;  but they could not.  So God told him to go up that Mt. and get that law.  The people were deathly  AFRAID of God’s presence which came down on that Mt.  Why?

As Lolady said,  they did not have grace, so they feared God.  That is law.  Fear.  Grace, the Holy Ghost causes us to love His presence; crave it.  But the law people fear and dispise that presence of God.  That is why they dispise the Holy Ghost and speaking in tongues.  That is why they fight this. 

They said don’t let God speak anymore to us.  So Moses said o.k.  God said they want sin and evil, I will give them law that I may destroy them.  Moses knew if they were under law, God would destroy them.  He had to.

He could give them no mercy;  for under Law is no mercy.  God wanted to destroy this evil nation.  See, Once he told Moses to get out of his way so he could destroy them all.  But Moses interceeded for them and God listened to Moses.  For He saw Moses only;  He saw grace when he looked at Moses.  Under Grace, God does NOT SEE OUR SIN.  WHAT A BLESSED PLACE TO BE IN.  JO IS WHITE IN HIS SIGHT; FOR I AM HID IN CHRIST JESUS; AND HIS GRACE COVERS ME AND GOD SEEs ME AS A MEMBER OF THE BODY OF JESUS; SO GOD SEES ME AS PURE WHITE AND CLEAN;  NO SIN.

Under law, God sees only you as a sinner and you are doomed to hell.  For you rejected the atonement of Jesus to put you under his Grace.

So since the Isralites wanted idols, sin, and rebellion, God gave them Satan.  God gave the a lying spirit.  God gave them law;  God gave them laws which were not good, and by which they could not live.

God let Satan, that tree of the knowledge of good and evil be given to them;  this is LAW.

Good and evil.  What is that?  Just what spiritwalker said;;;;; and evil angel transforming himself as light.  For he (Satan) said,  Love the Lord God with all your heart, soul, body and mind………

WHAT??   satan said that?  Yes that is law.

Love your neighbor as yourself.  Satan told them that.  Law. What?  yes.

Remember the Sabbath day to keep it Holy…..  this is evil.  Yes.  Why?  Because it is LAW.

Thou shalt not steal.  This is evil  Yes.  Why?  Because it is LAW.

Now does this mean it is bad to Love God?  or your neighbor?  or keep Sabbath? or not steal……. is all this evil.  No it is good.  Then what is the answer?

Listen…… God hates LAW.  God loves  GRACE.

But if one insists on being under law,,,,, then one must be punished for every transgression.  You can’t hid your sins from God;  not even your thoughts.

Every thought had better be pure, holy and clean. 

But Satan transformed himself as an angel of LIGHT  by saying,  Love the Lord your God;  Love your neighbor.  Who could guess that it was damning?  Why or how is it damning?  Because he made it be LAW.

That is how it is   GOOD AND   EVIL.  It is the right thing to do…. but if it is by law, then it is evil.

If I need a LAW TELLING ME I HAD BETTER LOVE GOD OR BE KILLED, THEN THIS IS NOT GOD’S WAY.  IF I NEED A LAW TELLING ME I HAD BETTER NOT STEAL,,, THEN THIS IS NOT PLEASING TO GOD; 

IF I HAVE TO HAVE A LAW TELLING ME TO LOVE AND TREAT MY NEIGHBOR RIGHT , THEN IT IS NOT GOOD IN ME;  BUT I AM DOING IT OUT OF FEAR BECAUSE OF LAW.

If it is law, and I fail even one time, then I must die for my sin.  God hates that.  God loves mercy.  He wants to give us mercy.

See ,when that law bunch brought that woman taken in adultry to Jesus, they knew and said to him,  THE LAW SAID TO KILL  HER;   BUT   WHAT  DO YOU SAY?

See, they already knew that Jesus HATED THAT LAW;  HE LOVED GRACE AND MERCY; HE DID NOT WANT TO DESTROY ANYONE;  BUT BY LAW IT HAD TO BE DONE.

HE HAD TO KILL THIS WOMAN IF HE LOOKED AT HER BY THE LAW;  SO HE WROTE DOWN THEIR OWN SINS BY WHICH THEY ALSO NEEDED TO BE KILLED, AND THEY WALKED AWAY;  LEAVING HIM FREE TO GIVE HER MERCY AND FORGIVENESS.

Under that Law he could not do that.  He would have had to kill her.  God hates this.  So when Satan says love God;  but it is law, then he takes you into damnation.

But if I love God out of Grace; not law, then it is life.  Paul said give, but not my constraint;  constraint is a must;  = law.

We are under no law to give.  God does not want it under law.  He said he loves a cheerful giver.  in other words, someone who gives because they truly WANT TO; OUT OF LOVE.  NOT BECAUSE A LAW SAID YOU HAD BETTER DO THIS OR BE KILLED.

MAY GOD HELP YOU ALL TO GET THIS TRUTH.

IF IT IS LAW,  THEN IT IS NOT LOVE;  IF IT IS LAW, THEN YOU MUST BE KILLED IF YOU DISOBEY EVEN ONE TIME.  ONE THING.  ONE POINT.

GOD DOES NOT WISH TO DESTROY YOU; BUT IF YOU INSIST ON REJECTING JESUS’ GRACE AND FORGIVENESS AND HIS BLOOD,  THEN HE HAS NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO DESTROY YOU BY LAW.

JO

The  DARKNESS is  PAST,  and the true LIGHT   NOW  SHINETH,   THIS IS N.T.IF THAT LAW WERE LIGHT, LIFE,   WHY WAS THE TRUE LIGHT JUST   NOW (N.T. times)  shining?To have light,  life,   you must  REJECT   DEATH, DARKNESS.You love darkness rather than light.

[Part 2]

So the angels who had been sent to hurt the earth, were told to wait until all of God’s servants were sealed. That is still going on! It has not finished yet. It began on the Day of Pentecost and is still going on. Until the very last person who will be sealed is sealed, this will continue. How foolish the doctrines of men are! They try to set this to only a small amount of people, and to fit it all into the last seven years of the church. Foolishness, foolishness!

After the first fruits of this outpouring were sealed, then they brought in the great number from all nations, as they spread the gospel to the entire earth. It is still going on. They came out of great tribulation, because the people of God have always had tribulation. Read how the early Christians were persecuted and tortured and killed, if you doubt this! Be not ignorant, but come to understand the TRUTH. Their white robes shows they are filled with righteousness!

Well, it seems I can’t help but get into these seals. It seems impossible to teach on the thunders without getting into the seals also. Probably will have to get into the trumpets, also, as all of this connects together.

The Third Thunder:

Re 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour. Re 8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets. Re 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. Re 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel’s hand. Re 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

The thunders are always accompanied with the VOICES, LIGHTNINGS AND EARTHQUAKES. These always go together. Neither one is the NATURAL events, out in the natural weather. This is totally spiritual language. Each of these are fully explained in Scripture. If you would take the time to study these things, you could easily come to understand them. The VOICES are the Witnesses as they preach/teach the Word of God, which is given out in the THUNDER.

Now we see that seven angels were equipped with trumpets with which to bring the wrath of the Lamb on this earth. But just as the angels which were told to hurt the earth and sea were told to wait until God sealed his saints with the Holy Ghost, so now, these angels wait until another great movement of God is accomplished. And just what is that? It is something which I had never seen here before, until last night, as I could not sleep and God began to reveal this to me. I rose up at 1:00am and began reading this. I saw this:

Verse five is the outpouring of the Baptism of fire! Yes, that is what is happening here. God revealed it. Re 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.

See it is the same as with the angels before the seal was given. They wait until God performs this matter of equipping someone for the next move of God, which is to pour out the wrath of the Lamb! In order to do that, they must receive the Baptism of Fire. The Fire spirit from God is for destruction. The Holy Ghost spirit is to save men. But now that the time of saving them is over, as shown by the SILENCE in Heaven, it is now time to bring the wrath upon all who have rejected the Grace salvation of God. So see then that the angel took the censer and filled it with FIRE of the altar, and cast it into the earth. THEN there were VOICES, THUNDERINGS AND LIGHTNINGS AND AN EARTHQUAKE.

This shows that another great fearful move of God has begun. The Earthquake shows their fear. This shows God shaking the world. It is not natural earthquakes. It is spiritual earthquakes. God said, I will not only shake the earth, but heaven and earth. Everything which cannot be shaken shall remain. So these ‘earthquakes’ try this world. It is the storms descending upon your ‘house’ which you built. The thundering is the mighty voice of God, as he sends out the witnesses with this spirit of Fire. Their voices will bring this wrath of the Lamb upon this world. The lightnings are the illumination which comes with this message from God. The angels are at work in the spirit world as all of this is happening. They bring the lightning.

The trumpets then begin to sound. Under each message or speaking from God, a judgment is poured out upon this earth. This is fulfilling Psalm 149, as the saints of God pour out the wrath. The hail is their words, which God said he had reserved unto this day of wrath. They are speaking these plagues into existence. Notice that they are working with FIRE all through these trumpets. Notice also, that it is with the third part of everything. If you read chapter eleven you will see this ministry explained more fully. It is those witnesses of God, with this baptism of fire, speaking FIRE out of their mouths, bringing these judgments. Fire proceeded out of their mouths, or those doing this speaking of these messages, and devoured their enemies. This honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD.

The old covenant, law, that group of idol worshippers, and the present whorish church are one and the same. They are the ones who reject and mock the wonderful things of God. But there comes a time when God is finished dealing with them, and then he sends destruction upon them. He turned from that old law nation to the NT Christian Church. That ‘tormented’ them and set off the evil murders of God’s saints. But see that God said to them: Isa 65:11 But ye are they that forsake the LORD, that forget my holy mountain, that prepare a table for that troop, and that furnish the drink offering unto that number. Isa 65:12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not. Isa 65:13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed: Isa 65:14 Behold, my servants shall sing for joy of heart, but ye shall cry for sorrow of heart, and shall howl for vexation of spirit.

Now see that the above is speaking the same thing as this thunder? It is showing how God became tired of these people rejecting the things He offered them, in order to serve their idols. So he sent his sword and slaughtered them. This ‘sword’ was spoken out of the mouth of his witnesses, even as I am now saying. This will go to someone and speak destruction to them. It happens all the time, and is not recognized by the world. But God’s Holy Word is always happening and being fulfilled.

See that he said, My servants shall EAT, but ye shall be HUNGRY. It is not speaking about natural food or hunger. It is speaking of being filled with the Words of Jesus or life. As we are given an abundance of revelation and glory, those who refuse are starved, spiritually. We drink, (his blood), but they are thirsty. We rejoice, but they are ashamed to rejoice in God. As we sing for joy, they cry for sorrow and howl for vexation of spirit.

But notice the rest of this: Isa 65:15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

See that God spoke here about slaying them and calling his servants by ANOTHER NAME. He did not mean he killed their body. He killed their spiritual part, for they had rejected HIM. So he now calls his servants CHRISTIANS, by the name of Jesus Christ. We no longer go by the name of ISRAEL OR JACOB. We go by the name of Jesus Christ.

He slew them from being his people.

As I explained in my message on the locusts, under the fifth trumpet, this is the ministry of these empowered Saints of God, as they bring the wrath of the Lamb. This ministry includes both men and women. They are fulfilling Joel 2 and Isaiah 13 and 33. It is the Day of the Lord. These are the people who obeyed the command of God to COME OUT OF HER, my people. We came out of that bottomless pit, into the kingdom of Christ. The smoke of the prayers of saints were offered up to God. Now we will bring about the blood, smoke and fire. It is the signs of this outpouring of the Baptism of fire. See that they hurt only the ones who have refused the seal of God, or the Holy Ghost. The people with the seal of God in their foreheads are safe from these plagues.

After this time is past, these same witnesses, now move into the next phase of their ministry and begin to destroy all who have refused to live for God, who refused the Holy Ghost. This is the second woe. All of this is still under that third thunder, which is also under that first thunder. It continues till the end. The tenth chapter of Revelation, is going back to telling about when Jesus came and took the book and ate it. The eleventh chapter is telling in detail, about the ministry of these witnesses with the baptism of fire.

Notice that these are the two candlesticks which stand before the God of the earth. They are explained in Zech 4. It is these two anointed churches of God, those with Peter, and those here at the end, who receive the Fire Baptism. We both engage in these ministries. That first church performed these things on that fallen OT group. We will perform these plagues on the fallen church of the Laodicians. It is the bottomless pit. The smoke of her torment will ascend up forever. This has been going on all the time. As each age of Christians live and die, they perform these ministries. It is not a one-time event. It is in motion all the time.

As those first witnesses, Peter, Paul, and the others of that day, finished their ministry, that old beast, which ascended out of that whore-pit, rose up and killed them. They then ‘lay’ dead in that old sinful ‘Jerusalem’. It has been going on since the Day of Pentecost. It even went on in the OT, as that evil whore killed all the prophets of God. It was not their literal, human bodies which lay out there dead. These things are fully spiritual. The Word of God is spiritual, not natural. It may speak about some natural things, but the speech itself is spiritual and must be spiritually discerned. So it is the ministry of these saints which lays dead. It happens through all the ages as Satan destroys the saints of God. He that was born after the flesh persecutes those born after the Spirit. That is what this is all about. They are this beast which ascends out of that bottomless pit. It is those who hold to a carnal mind, filled with all malice and hatred of God and his people.

Down through the dark ages, as those saints witnessed against that evil fake church, and thus tormented them. The wicked ones then rose up and killed them. Then they lay ‘dead’ in those old ‘streets’. Those people rejoiced over them and sent gifts to each other, at X-mess, celebrating the death of these ‘TWO Witnesses’. It has been going on all the time. This thing dates back thousands of years. It began with the murder of Abel. Jesus told us this.

See, as we speak the powerful TRUTH, as FIRE comes out of our mouths, speaking TRUTH, it actually TORMENTS those who love that old bottomless pit. Then they seek to destroy us in any way they can. They fight us on the internet. They do all kinds of evil against us, because we have that two-edged sword coming out of our mouths. We speak FIRE into their midst and it burns them. They then seek to kill us. After each age of ministers finish their ministry, they are then killed by that evil beast, from the pit.

But don’t make the mistake of thinking none of this has happened, yet. It has been going on since Cain killed Abel. It happened to Paul, Peter, James, John, Jesus. And so on. It will never stop until Jesus returns and stops all this violence off this earth. Hasten the Day, Lord God! Herod was part of that old beast who rose up out of that bottomless pit and he was killing the men of God. As they finished their testimony, that old beast killed them. It started with Stephen.

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This is about all that I can post in one message, so I will now post it to our board. I am not finished with this message, so hope to do some more on it tomorrow. But since it is about as long now as they will let me post at one time, I will go ahead and post this, just in case someone passes by and wants to read this.

I may possibly make some changes. But right now, this first part looks finished to me.

I cannot finish this tonight. Must get some rest. Besides, I need to study on those other thunders before I write any more. Written Nov. 25, 2008

Good night.

Jo Smith

• Larry Bray This is so so wrong. Jesus is not God. Jesus came in sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Would some of you people show in the scriptures where it is said Jesus was or is God? You know you can not. It is the Adam spirit or tree of kno…See More

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    Ray Gabriel Larry I for give you for you said ,,why is it your name Bray and not something else,who was JESUS talking about in John 8:24

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  Paulette J Smith Ray, where is even one Scripture to prove what you said? there is none and you know it. why have you cast away the Word of God?

the first time the woman fled to the wilderness was at the falling of the OT. Those in Judea fled to the mountains of the NT ministers. Those apostles fed her there and she was safe from the fall.
The next time the woman flies to the wilderness is at the falling of the image to that OT beast system of law….the corrupt church.
Those who finally see the corruption of that old church system will finally run free, to the wilderness of the second witness, who will feed her there from the face of that old serpent.

<p style=”margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, system-ui, &quot;.SFNSText-Regular&quot;, sans-serif; color: rgb(28, 30, 33); white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);”>Zech 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, system-ui, &quot;.SFNSText-Regular&quot;, sans-serif; color: rgb(28, 30, 33); white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);”>5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled f<span class=”text_exposed_show” style=”display: inline; font-family: inherit;”>rom before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.</span></p><div class=”text_exposed_show” style=”display: inline; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, system-ui, &quot;.SFNSText-Regular&quot;, sans-serif; color: rgb(28, 30, 33); white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);”><p style=”margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>When you see half of anything in Scripture, (or for that matter anywhere) it means something whole has been cut into.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>I will come back to this later and do a message; but for now think a bit.<br>what is that mountain that was cut in halves.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>what is that valley? where in the NT is it explained that someone fled to this valley?</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>If you cut an apple into, knife going from east to west, then you slide one half up and the other half down, those pieces move to the north and south; this in turn makes a space in between.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>That mountain is the kingdom of Christ or the body of Christ.<br>In this body is not darkness or error or lies or sin.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>But when it is cut into, it makes a great valley between those two halves.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>The first half is the first witness or the Apostolic Church in the Book of Acts. This or these people were the FIRST WITNESS. Jesus told them, Ye are my witnesses.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>but then a bad thing happened. the whore church came in and took down this great witness by murder and lies.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>Then came up seven mixed up churches. They are told about in Revelation. The last one is totally gone bad. During this seven-church period time, there was no true light shining. But it also was not a total night time.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>But at evening time light came again….why?</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>That other HALF OF THAT MOUNTAIN again receives power from on high….baptism of FIRE.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>With this Fire of God they, the SECOND WITNESS, sweeps away all the lies, bring truth again, and rescues God’s people from that valley of ‘church.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>This is a powerful truth.</p><p style=”margin-top: 6px; margin-bottom: 6px; font-family: inherit;”>Jo Smith….. August 18, 2019</p></div><p><br></p>

But the sons of Belial shall be all of them as thorns thrust away, because they cannot be taken with hands:

For wickedness burneth as the fire: it shall devour the briers and thorns, and shall kindle in the thickets of the forest, and they shall mount up like the lifting up of smoke.

And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day;

And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns be with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.

Mat 13: 22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

Tree of knowledge of good AND EVIL.
A mixture of truth and error.
God hates this mixture.
It all began other side of flood, as Adam instigated holidays for his own worship.

So, anyone with even a tiny grain of sense could see through this…. how can the many lies about a santa, bringing toys to kids and flying reindeer, etc. even come close to mixing with the True Jesus Christ?
A horrible mixture.

God’s word clearly shows us to avoid this evil. Yet it has in its grip all churched folks.

it has in its grip all the worldly folks. But God hates it and will destroy all who try to mix this evil with his Son, Jesus Christ.

You best drop one or the other. either cling to the truth and good tree or go all out for the evil. stop lying and pretending this evil is of God.

Stop pretending to be a Christian and yet you spend your life bowing to these devil-worship . lying holidays.

Then they claim, I am a christian, been washed in the blood of Jesus yet I am still a sinner, sinning every day.
Another big lie, a mixture that god hates.

You hate truth so much you will not even read these true messages, yet you claim to be on your way to heaven.

This is a mixture that God will not overlook. You have heard the truth enough and refuse to repent of this your love for the TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL…. so God will not accept you into his Kingdom. No evil can go there

when you mix a little LEVEN in with the dough, it levens the entire lump.
a little evil makes the entire thing EVIL. that is where you all are with your love for holidays….. not one Word of God mentions to do any of this mess.

so hate me all you wish…..I am one of the very very FEW TELLING YOU ANY TRUTH.

Jo Smith.

Genesis 3: 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

God is talking to me today about this tree.
here are the charactics of this tree of knowledge of good and evil:
1. the tree was good for FOOD:
[what revolves around good food? YOUR HOLIDAYS.
when she saw that it was good for FOOD she took of the fruit and ate.
your HOLIDAYS are this FRUIT.

2. pleasant to the eyes:

sure, you love the carnal beauty of these holiday decorations. You are eating fruit of that death tree…..

a mixture: you say, ‘it is birthday of Jesus’….thus you use His name TO try and justify your love for the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

3. a tree to make one wise:
they say, we are the EDUCATED ones…. ‘you fools’ refuse the holidays.

I was told by my own daughter that she would not raise her children without xmess as I did mine.

so be it. I taught mine the TRUTH…THE TREE OF LIFE.

Jo Smith…not ashamed of the truth. the Tree of Life.