Build On The True Foundation

Date Posted：12/18/2011 6:47 PMCopy HTMLFrom: joie2  (Original Message)Sent: 12/7/2003 7:22 PMIs there any other evidence in the Word of God that Baptism in the name of Jesus WASHES AWAY OR REMITTS OUR SINS?  Let’s see what another man of God believed about this:Acts 22:10.  And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.
 11.  And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
 12.  And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,
 13.  Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.
 14.  And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.
 15.  For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
 16.  And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.This is speaking of Paul~~v12–Ananias, a devout man of good report had enough faith and power to say to the blinded Saul, receive thy sight.  and the same hour Saul had his eyes opened back up.  It came about by this man speaking it.  This is our power in Christ….speak….and it shall be.Now what about Saul?  v14…….God has chosen you, that you shall know his will and hear his voice and be his witness unto all men.v16–Why tarry?  {make haste]…and be baptized,  and  WASH  AWAY  THY SINS,      [how] calling on the name of the Lord.How many of you dare call this many witnesses of this way of Baptism a lie?  Can you call this much Scripture a lie?  Does it have anything to do with salvation?  Well, does having your sins washed away, or remitted have anything to do with salvation?If so then, Baptism is escential;;;;;;; for this is the one and ONLY WAY GIVEN IN THE WORD OF GOD TO GET YOUR SINS REMITTED OR WASHED AWAY.    WASHED BY THE PURE WATER WHICH IS BROUGHT ABOUT BY THE SPOKEN WORD OF GOD AS THE BAPTIZER SPEAKS THE HOLY WORDS OVER A PERSON IN BAPTISM.  THIS SANCTIFIES THAT WATER AND MAKES IT HOLY  …….BY THE WORD OF GOD…….EVERYTHING GOD SPEAKS  IS  HOLY.If Ananias could speak words and give Saul back his sight,,,then the same words of God spoken by a man baptizing someone, can cause that water to be holy and wash away his sins.

There was a question and answer to this that was on another thread that I answered but this also should be a new message   

Question?

If a person is not Baptised in water do you think he or she will go to this burning Hell that everyone believes in?

Yes I DoYes I do believe that baptism is a necessary part of our salvation. Reference to baptism goes all the way back to Moses in reference to Israel passing through the Red Sea and covered by the cloud.1 Cor 10:2 – And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; ( It identifies us with the death, ( repentance dying out of that old man) burial ( baptism) resurrection (coming forth as a new man) ( See we are buried with him by baptism into death so that like as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.1 Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. ( See this is how we become part of the body of Christ through baptism.)Mark 16:16- He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. ( So this scripture alone should answer any question that any one has about baptism being a part of our salvation.)This is not part of the question but I also see according to scripture that you have to be baptize in a river or some large body of water.John 3:23 -And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.Math 3:6- And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins. ( See repentance and baptizing go together you can not separate them. We know they were repenting because they were confessing their sins. So in the plan of salvation there must be repentance and baptism.3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.The reason that I brought these 2 scriptures out is to show you where they were baptized, in the river Jordon which was a river according to history that was the one river of Palestine, has its course of little more than 200 miles (300 km), from the roots of Anti-Lebanon to the head of the Dead Sea. That there was much water there.Baptism is not something we should neglect because it is a commandment from Jesus himself.Math 28:18- And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.28:19- Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:28:20 – Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. ( See it was a commandment)Gal 3: 27- For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.( Now what is this saying? here he says we put on Christ when we were baptized. So if you have not been baptized according to what I see you have not put on Christ. To put on Christ you must be baptized.Baptism is part of God’s plan of salvation but not the only thing. Only a part. If you take on only baptism it is no good. You must first repent as saith the scripture. If they do not repent all anyone does if baptism is the only thing they do is to go down in water a dry sinner and come back up a wet sinner.John 3: 5 states- Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. ( I hope you see who said this. It was not Isaiah that said it, so how can anyone see that without the baptism in water you cannot be saved?Jesus himself was baptized and we are to follow his example***********1 Peter 2:21- For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: IF WE ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THE STEPS OF JESUS WHAT MUST WE DO? DO AS JESUS DID. Let’s see what he done.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Math 3: 13- 17– Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.3:14 – But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?3:15 -And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. ( so why did Jesus have to be baptized? According to this scripture to fulfill all righteousness.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so if Jesus had to be baptized to fulfill all righteousness do we think that we can not do it ? Are we going on our own righteous when we say that we don’t have to be baptized when Jesus had to. Just don’t make sense to me. 3:16 -And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: ( also see he came out of the water meaning he had to be in much water>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3:17 -And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased ( See if you are baptized God will well pleased with it and you also become his Son.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So Hoss I hope this answers your question, yes I do believe you have to be baptized to be saved. If not why would it be in the word of God and some form of baptism is found in the bible I think 92 times. Does anyone think that is not important why would it be there this many times>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>May God Bless 

Date Posted：11/10/2019 12:28 AM

The old world never saw rain; they did not know what rain was for God had not made it to rain on the earth. But God sent a massive rain; flood; covered the mountains and destroyed that evil, violent society.
The waters receded and became Oceans.

God said he would not destroy the whole earth with water again, but would destroy the next evil, violent society with FIRE.

A mist went up from the earth each night and watered the whole face of the ground, in that old world. So they knew what water was but not rain.

We see natural fire here, but have not seen the kind of FIRE that God spoke of.

so what is the FIRE which will destroy this evil world today?

Heb. 1: 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

(his ministers…. a flame OF FIRE.)

Psalm 104: 4 who maketh his angels spirits;
his ministers a flaming fire:

Two verses confirming that his MINISTERS will be a flaming FIRE.
Rev 11: 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

These end-time WITNESSES, (true Christians, with the baptism of FIRE).. WILL HAVE…. FIRE…COMING OUT THEIR MOUTHS…… = WORDS.
WITH THESE WORDS WE WILL CONSUME SINNERS OUT OF THIS EARTH.

WE WILL CLEANSE THIS EARTH AND THEN THERE WILL BE WAR NO MORE.

Jo Smith—–Nov 9, 2019

The old world never saw rain; they did not know what rain was for God had not made it to rain on the earth. But God sent a massive rain; flood; covered the mountains and destroyed that evil, violent society.
The waters receded and became Oceans.

God said he would not destroy the whole earth with water again, but would destroy the next evil, violent society with FIRE.

A mist went up from the earth each night and watered the whole face of the ground, in that old world. So they knew what water was but not rain.

We see natural fire here, but have not seen the kind of FIRE that God spoke of.

so what is the FIRE which will destroy this evil world today?

Heb. 1: 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.

(his ministers…. a flame OF FIRE.)

Psalm 104: 4 who maketh his angels spirits;
his ministers a flaming fire:

Two verses confirming that his MINISTERS will be a flaming FIRE.
Rev 11: 4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

These end-time WITNESSES, (true Christians, with the baptism of FIRE).. WILL HAVE…. FIRE…COMING OUT THEIR MOUTHS…… = WORDS.
WITH THESE WORDS WE WILL CONSUME SINNERS OUT OF THIS EARTH.

WE WILL CLEANSE THIS EARTH AND THEN THERE WILL BE WAR NO MORE.

Jo Smith—–Nov 9, 2019

The Double Portion ~~

Deut. 21: 17
But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath : for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.
The firstborn son had a birthright, in the OT.  He was to receive a double portion of all that his father had.  
2kings 2: 1 And it came to pass, when the LORD would take up Elijah into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elijah went with Elisha from Gilgal. 2 And Elijah said unto Elisha, Tarry here, I pray thee; for the LORD hath sent me to Bethel. And Elisha said unto him, As the LORD liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. So they went down to Bethel.
3 And the sons of the prophets that were at Bethel came forth to Elisha, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the LORD will take away thy master from thy head to day? And he said  Yea, I know it; hold ye your peace . 4 And Elijah said unto him, Elisha, tarry here, I pray thee; for the LORD hath sent me to Jericho. And he said , As the LORD liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. So they came to Jericho. 5 And the sons of the prophets that were at Jericho came to Elisha, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the LORD will take away thy master from thy head to day? And he answered , Yea, I know it; hold ye your peace .
6 And Elijah said unto him, Tarry , I pray thee, here; for the LORD hath sent me to Jordan. And he said , As the LORD liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. And they two went on . 7 And fifty men of the sons of the prophets went , and stood to view afar off: and they two stood by Jordan. 8 And Elijah took his mantle, and wrapped it together , and smote the waters, and they were divided hither and thither, so that they two went over on dry ground. 9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over , that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said , I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me. 10 And he said , Thou hast asked a hard thing : nevertheless, if thou see me when I am taken from thee, it shall be so unto thee; but if not, it shall not be so. 11 And it came to pass, as they still went on , and talked , that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried , My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces. 13 He took up also the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and went back , and stood by the bank of Jordan; 14 And he took the mantle of Elijah that fell from him, and smote the waters, and said , Where is the LORD God of Elijah? and when he also had smitten the waters, they parted hither and thither: and Elisha went over . 15 And when the sons of the prophets which were to view at Jericho saw him, they said , The spirit of Elijah doth rest on Elisha. And they came to meet him, and bowed themselves to the ground before him. 16 And they said unto him, Behold now, there be with thy servants fifty strong men ; let them go , we pray thee, and seek thy master: lest peradventure the Spirit of the LORD hath taken him up , and cast him upon some mountain, or into some valley. And he said , Ye shall not send .

Elisha types Christ.  He is the firstborn for the NT Covenant.  He was the first one up in the resurrection.  Jesus is the firstborn from the dead, so the double portion belongs to him.
Now when placing Jesus with Adam, Adam would be the firstborn and have the right to the birthright, or double portion.
But Adam sinned as did Esau.  Adam did not care for this birthright.  He wanted to be above  God, so did not receive that double portion.  It went to the younger brother, Jacob.  Jacob here types Jesus Christ and desired to have that birthright or double portion.

Esau also types the law, which was the first covenant. But this covenant was hated by God as was Esau.  The law could not fulfill the wishes of God, being weak through the flesh.  So God had to turn to another source to find deliverance from sin for mankind.  This failing of the law sets it with the hated Esau and sinning Adam, thus depriving this law covenant the right of the double portion.

What the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own son in the likeness of sinful man, (Rom 8), brought forth salvation and thus became the firstborn in the Spirit.  This set the New Covenant, or Jesus, up to receive the double portion.

Elijah had a great power with God.  Everyone in his day recognized him as the main prophet of God.  Elisha became a follower of Elijah.  When it came time for God to take Elijah up, he keeps saying to Elisha, I am going over there, you stay here.  But Elisha said, no way.  I am not going to leave you.  So he went all the way with Elijah to the Jordon, refusing to take his eyes off Elijah.

He knew something great was about to happen and he determined to be in on it.  He was longing for a double portion of the power he saw on Elijah.  When they came to the Jordon Elijah smites the water with his mantle and the waters parted and they walked to the other side on dry ground.

The sons of the prophets stood afar off, watching.  They represent those who serve God afar off and never move in close enough to really get in on the power of God.   They also knew something great was about to happen, but they only wanted to get a small glimpse of it.  They did not desire to be in on it.  They are the carnal minded, lukewarm Christians.

But Elisha was determined to get that double portion or the birthright.  He has that same determination we saw in Jacob.  He is willing to do whatever it takes to obtain that birthright and double portion.  It means everything to these who truly love God.

Then Elijah asks Elisha what he wants him to do for him, before he is taken away.  Elisha did not hesitate.  He already knew what he wanted.  He said, I want a double portion of your spirit.  Elijah said, you have asked a HARD THING.  But if you see me when I am taken, it shall be yours.
Why would it be a HARD THING?  Because it is seeking the greatest power of God to rest upon oneself.  It is transferring that birthright, double portion of the firstborn to the younger. In this case, it represents that new covenant of Grace as the younger.  Law is being destroyed because God hated it.  The younger or New Grace Covenant is being given the right of firstborn or the double portion.  So this is why it would be a hard thing.

The disciples followed Jesus out to Bethany.  They would not leave him for they knew something great was about to happen.  They wanted a double portion of his Spirit.  They now had the revelation of Scripture, because Jesus had opened their understanding to the Word of God, after his resurrection.
Those disciples now understand what was going on there with Elijah and Elisha.  They now knew what to do.  They were not going to take their eyes off Jesus, but would see him when he was taken.

And so they did.  Ye men of Galilee, why stand you gazing up into heaven?  This same Jesus shall come again, in like manner.  So Elisha picks up that mantle which fell from Elijah as he went up.  He now goes back to the Jordon.  He is excited, I am sure.  But he still has to prove it and put it to the test.
So he rolls up the mantle of Elijah and smites the waters of the Jordon, just as Elijah had done.  He said, where is the Lord God of Elijah?  See, he is seeking to prove that God is now with him as he was with Elijah.  He had watched and had seen Elijah go up.  That mantle had fallen upon him.  He now possess the power which had been in Elijah, only now, it was DOUBLE.

 The waters rolled back and he went across on dry ground!  My, what a moment in mankind.  The 50 prophets watching, knew immediately that Elisha was now the anointed prophet of God.  They came and bowed to him, ready to accept his leadership.

Jesus had said to his disciples, if ye see me go, the same works that I do shall you do and GREATER, because I go to my Father.  They would not leave him for they wanted that power.  
When the Day of Pentecost was fully come, those 120 were together in one mind and one accord, waiting expectantly for the mighty power of God to fall upon them.  They now KNEW what this thing with Elijah and Elisha was showing.  So they waited.  And then the great rushing mighty wind of the Lord fell upon them, and they were filled with the Holy Ghost, speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gave utterance.  They now had the double portion of Jesus’ spirit.

 They could now do the mighty works he had done and greater.  They came out with this great power, healed the sick, raised the dead, converted thousands to Christ in one day.  Even Peter’s shadow could heal the sick.  We have no record of Jesus doing this.  Paul took handkerchiefs from his body and healed the sick.  We have no record of Jesus doing this.  A poison snake hung on his hand and it did him no harm.  We have no record of Jesus doing this either.  Greater works than this shall you do, for you will have the double portion.

The disciples had stood there watching and waiting.  What for?  They were waiting for the ‘mantle’ of Jesus to fall on them.  They knew it was supposed to come down.  But see, the angel let them know it was not time yet.  Go back to Jerusalem and WAIT.  And so they did.  Ten days later, they were endued with power from on high.  Now they can go out and turn the world upside down.  And they did.

One couple lied to Peter, or as he said, to the Holy Ghost and dropped dead.  Jesus never did this.  Greater works shall you do.  Glory!  A double portion.  Not only for salvation, but for judgment.

The 50 sons of the prophets were lukewarm and lacking in faith. They seek to be allowed to go and search for Elijah.  Perhaps God was not able to take him all the way?  Perhaps he took him part the way up and dropped him on a mountain?  NO, do not go.  Do not go search.  God has not dropped him.  Well, we think perhaps God did drop him.  There are 50 strong men with us.  Let us go search and we will prove that God did not do as he said.  He was not able to take Elijah into heaven alive.  

Finally Elisha was ashamed to keep on with this silly debate and he said, go then.  After searching three days, these faithless ones come back to report that for all their mighty strength, they could not find Elijah.

Fifth strong men from Satan cannot stop the glorious power of God.  A stronger than he is here and will stop him and take away his armor in which he trusted.  He trusted on the arm of FLESH.  We are 50 strong men.  Didn’t I tell you not to go?  Why didn’t you believe and listen to the one who now has that mantle?  Why do you refuse to be water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and receive the Holy Ghost as those anointed sons of God told you to do?  They had the power, so why did you not believe them?  Oh, you trusted in the arm of flesh.  You trusted in church, but not in the Living God to keep his promises.  He can’t heal the sick today.  He is not able.  He can’t give miracles today. He lost his power.  He can’t give the Holy Ghost today.  We can’t speak in tongues today.  Our church says so.  They are 50 strong men and cannot do this thing.  God probably has rejected us today.  He let them fall in the wilderness or the mountains.  But you better run to the doctors today, for God is not in the healing business anymore.
Oh ye of little faith.  How will you get across that Jordon?  You cannot part the waters.

There was a firmament in the heavens.  They were to part or separate the waters = peoples of God from the peoples of Satan. The disciples did just that.  The true disciples still do just that today.  We can still part those waters.  Those of us who receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost still have that double portion.  We know that God has not lost any of his power nor will he refuse those who believe.  Ask what you will and it shall be done unto you.

That early church had the great power of God and turned the world upside down.  Now it went into apostasy and fell away from Grace, back to law and lost that great power. Thus those witnesses of Jesus Christ lay ‘dead’ in the ‘streets’ for those three days that the lukewarm prophets sought for Elijah.  They did not believe God had the power to deliver.  So they lay dead in the streets.  But Elisha (that early church) had a DOUBLE PORTION.
So they will rise again. They will one more time turn the world upside down and prove one more time that God has not lost one ounce of his power or willingness to heal the sick, raise the dead and change vile people into Saints of God.

See, that Church will once again be endued with power from on high, with a second Baptism.  This time the baptism of Fire, to do what those others could not do, which is to bring the wrath of the Lamb or judgment on this wicked world.  So they have a double portion and therefore will have a second outpouring of the power of God.  This true Church of the living God will show up again on this earth.  We will have that double portion for we are not taking our eyes off Jesus.  We will see him RETURN.  We will not be watching him GO.  We will be watching him RETURN.   His mantle will fall on us, that second witness.
Elisha shows that second witness.  Watch how he did much greater/more mighty works than Elijah had done.

2Kings 2: 19 And the men of the city said unto Elisha, Behold, I pray thee, the situation of this city is pleasant, as my lord seeth : but the water is naught, and the ground barren . 20 And he said , Bring me a new cruse, and put salt therein. And they brought it to him. 21 And he went forth unto the spring of the waters, and cast the salt in there, and said , Thus saith the LORD, I have healed these waters; there shall not be from thence any more death or barren land.

Jesus said, ye are the salt of the earth.  He cast the salt in and healed those ‘waters’ or people.
They had no water to remit their sins.  So the Apostles took them into water baptism for the remission of sins, and their land was healed.  They cast the salt in and healed those waters, or peoples, and they had no more death or barren land.  Now they are fruitful and bringing forth the fruits of the kingdom of Christ.  We are springs of Living waters.  We speak the words of Life and heal those waters.  This is our double portion.

Job 1: 1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil. 2 And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters. 3 His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east.

This great man, Job, had his heart set wholly on God.  He had great riches and ten children. We know how Satan provoked God to come against Job to prove that Job would still serve God no matter what he went through.  So as it happened Job lost all his children and all his substance and then went through great personal suffering.  But through it all Job did not foolishly charge God or turn against God.  He still loved God no matter what he suffered.  BUT Job was showing something here.

In the first part, Job is showing that first, or law covenant.  He was offering up sacrifices for his and his children’s sins.  That system of law had to fall down.  It could not do what God wanted so it had to be destroyed.  As Job lost his children, (those of law), and all his earthly possessions, it is showing the destruction of that old law covenant.
His sufferings show the crucifixion suffering of Jesus, to destroy that law covenant and bring us into grace.

Jesus never foolishly cursed God or turned against him, but said, not my will but thine be done.  He went into death and hell.  He lost those first children, of old law.  But in those three days, that the lukewarm prophets sought for Elijah, Jesus rose from the dead and showed himself alive forevermore.  Those unbelieving prophets were put to silence.  Did not I tell you not to go?

Where was your faith?  Didn’t I tell you that in three days I would rise again?  Why did you search three days to try and find Elijah?  Just wait patiently and I will rise again, as I said unto you.
Isa. 49: 19 For thy waste and thy desolate places , and the land of thy destruction, shall even now be too narrow by reason of the inhabitants , and they that swallowed thee up shall be far away . 20 The children which thou shalt have, after thou hast lost the other, shall say again in thine ears, The place is too strait for me: give place to me that I may dwell . 21 Then shalt thou say in thine heart, Who hath begotten me these, seeing I have lost my children , and am desolate, a captive , and removing to and fro ? and who hath brought up these? Behold, I was left alone; these, where had they been? 22 Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I will lift up mine hand to the Gentiles, and set up my standard to the people: and they shall bring thy sons in their arms, and thy daughters shall be carried upon their shoulders. 23 And kings shall be thy nursing fathers , and their queens thy nursing mothers : they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.

The above was spoken to Jesus, (in prophecy).  It is showing that in the land of his destruction, (where he was crucified), he lost those children.  But then he finds many more.  And He says, after I lost my other children, these, where had they been.  He now has many more than at the first.  He has increased, the double portion.  These people bow to him as those prophets bowed down to Elisha.

Back to Job:  After God brought Job back out of his suffering and captivity, he gave Job twice as much as he had had before.  Watch his children:

Job 42: 12 So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses. 13 He had also seven sons and three daughters. 14 And he called the name of the first, Jemima; and the name of the second, Kezia; and the name of the third, Kerenhappuch. 15 And in all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.

See, that double portion here?  The LORD blessed the LATTER end of Job more than his beginning.  He gave him twice as much, that double portion.  But watch his children… He again has seven sons and three daughters.  In all the land were no women found so fair as the daughters of Job: and their father gave them inheritance among their brethren.

This is the New Covenant of Grace.  Your sons and your DAUGHTERS shall prophecy, under this grace Covenant.  No more keeping the daughters silent.  They were given inheritance among their brethren.  This is the work of Jesus bringing again the EQUALITY which God had made to begin with, with Adam and Eve.  Now women are no longer prohibited.  Grace sets them all free.  Now we are all ONE.  In Christ there is neither male nor female, but we are all ONE, or equals.

Now that early church has a double portion.  The GLORY of this latter house shall be greater than the former house.  Law was the former house.  Esau is this former house.  Elijah was also showing this former house.  But Elisha received that double portion.  Jacob received that double portion.  Jesus received that double portion of God’s power.  The disciples received a double portion of the power of Jesus, doing greater works.

The Church in Peter’s day was now showing the former house, even though with the Law, it was the latter house.  It was much greater than the law house of Moses.  Yet it has such a great portion of a double portion, that it is allowed to return again, one more time, those witnesses will rise again and have a double portion of that first house at Pentecost.

So now those in these latter days will receive a double portion of that early house of the Church of Peter and Paul.  We will bring again the captivity of those lukewarm children of little faith.  When they see that mantle of Jesus on us, their faith will rise and see the glory of God.

We will bring the great power of God on this earth is so much that the dead will rise and come out of the graves into glorification.  Yes, the glory of this latter house will be much greater than the former house of either law or the Pentecost Church.
We will both bring the wrath of the Lamb or judgment on this wicked world, but then the dead saints of God will be raised into immortality and we will be a glorified Church with the double portion of the Spirit of Jesus.

Praise my precious God for this great message.

By: Jo Smith ~~ May 16, 2010.

Date Posted：10/14/2010 10:17 PMCopy HTMLThis is a great truth which I was already teaching, and I found this on Shelia’s site.  I hope all of you study and learn this great, but hidden truth.
I will try and expound more on it after I copy all of this from our Multiply site.
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Chosen for ministryNov 1, ’06 11:39 PM
by freeborn551 for everyoneI have taken this from Shelia’s website.  It is something she wrote.  (Hope she does not mind my copying this.  since it is fixed so you can copy it,  I suppose it is alright.)

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. KJV

     THERE IS NO MALE OR FEMALE IN CHRIST JESUS (Gal. 3:28). Accordingly, all textual references to MALE and/or FEMALE on the LEM Site, point to spiritual principles, and the words MAN and MEN, as well as the pronouns, HE, HIS and HIM, include, WOMAN, WOMEN, SHE and HER.
    CHRIST JESUS IS THE ONLY SPIRITUAL MALE. Accordingly, all powers and principalities other than Christ Jesus are identified as female IN RELATION TO CHRIST JESUS.
     The powers and principalities which incarnated this fallen world (2 Cor. 4:4) are male IN RELATION TO FALLEN MANKIND, and female IN RELATION TO CHRIST JESUS.
     Wherefore, if Christ dwells in you, you are a new [spiritually male] creature (2 Cor. 5:17-18); a sharp, threshing instrument, with teeth (Is. 41:15) strong enough to thresh the spiritually female powers and principalities that bind mankind with the chains of death.
        The physical man is the head of his wife and family, but all males do not have authority over all females by virtue of their physical sex.
         The Spiritual Man, Christ Jesus, has the authority to manifest Himself through whomever He pleases, and when He chooses to preach, teach, or pastor through a physical woman, that physical woman  becomes spiritually male to whatever extent Christ Jesus reveals Himself through her. The indwelling mind and Spirit of Christ Jesus fully qualifies a physical woman to wield the authority of whichever spiritual office Christ Jesus has called her to.
           Physical men and women should never strive with one another but, rather, they should try the Spirit on everyone that they come in contact with, and submit to the Spirit of Christ, wherever. and in whoever, He is appearing.
           God bless you.

Sincerely in Christ,
Sheila R. Vitale, Pastor
Sheila R. Vitale, Pastor, Teacher & Founder
Living Epistles Ministries

Date Posted：10/14/2010 10:40 PMCopy HTMLHoly GhostSep 19, ’05 8:12 PM
by joie

Ghost and Spirit are NOT PERSONS.  there is no such thing written in the word of God as a ‘PERSONALITY IN THE GODHEAD.’Now if you think there is, please quote that verse here for me.  I want to read that.Now if you will do a search, you will see that Holy Ghost is NOT ONE TIME MENTIONED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT.Do you have any idea why?  Of course you do not.  You think it has something to do with old English words, or some different Greek words.  It has nothing to do with either.   God does NOT MAKE MISTAKES OR ERROR.  If the KJF is full of error, it is not God’s word at all, so why bother to read it.  And if it is false, how much more are all the others false.  Then you find yourself without one solid thing to stand on.Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit are NOT THE SAME THING, AND NEITHER ONE IS A PERSONALITY.In the OT, the only times ghost is mentioned  [and I say if the word has something to do with a difference in usage in Hebrew or Greek or English, then why is it even rendered as ghost 11 times?  Surely they knew the difference in the words, ghost and spirit?]  Holy Spirit is used only 3 times in the Old Testament.  Each time ghost is mentioned in the OT, it is connected with someone dying;  death.God is a SPIRIT.  It does not say God is a ghost, now does it?  Do you think God is a ghost?SPIRIT…..means a supernatural being or essence.  It also means to give life to the physical organism.But what about GHOST?  Have any idea at the difference?  No you do not.  You have not sought God’s Word and Spirit for this truth.  You jumped all around in man’s tales and junk for answers.  Carnality!  The carnal mind is DEATH.Now. GHOST means the disembodied soul. :  the seat of life or intelligence:.. the soul of a dead person believed to be an inhabitant of the unseen world or to appear to the living in bodily likeness.Now that is from the Webster’s Collegiate.It fits what the word of God teaches.Spirit, or Holy Spirit is God.  it is the Father.  He can send or place His Holy Spirit on certain people.  But since it was only mentioned three times in the OT, it is something he did not do many times.Now on the other hand,  Ghost….is the disembodied soul, or the life or intelligence, of a dead person believed to be inhabiting the unseen world or to appear to the LIVING in bodily likeness.   SOUND FAMILIAR?  It should if you ever read Acts 2.The HOLY GHOST DESCENDED IN FORM OF A DOVE!!!!!  what was it?  The disembodied soul of JESUS CHRIST.True.  and wonderful in its meaning.  It is the POWER from on high to empower those disciples who stood true to Jesus.  Jesus had told them, the things that I do SHALL YOU DO ALSO,  because I go to my Father.Why?  Because then,  AFTER  GOD GAVE JESUS THE SAME POWER AND AUTHORITY AS GOD HIMSELF POSSESSES, TO GIVE LIFE TO WHOM HE WILL, AS DOES GOD,  THEN JESUS HAD THE SAME ABILITY TO SEND HIS OWN……….GET THIS…..GR…..AND ALL OF YOU……GET THIS…..LISTEN AND LEARN TRUTH FROM GOD…NOT SOME LITERATURE OR TV BOOKS OR PROGRAM……….FROM GOD’S WORD.TO SEND HIS OWN GHOST BACK INTO HIS DISCIPLES……CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THE ENORMITY OF THIS?  JESUS CHRIST SENT THE GHOST  [DISEMBODIED SOUL]  JESUS’ OWN SOUL OR HIS OWN SEAT OF LIFE AND INTELLIGENCE…….BACK INTO HIS DISCIPLES!!!GLORY TO MY GOD…….  !  WHEW!  THIS IS WHY PETER COULD NOW RAISE THE DEAD,,,,,,,AS JESUS HAD…..HE NOW HAD THE SOUL OF JESUS INSIDE HIMSELF!!!!  WOW.   NOW PETER COULD HEAL PEOPLE JUST BY PASSING BY THEMMMMM………POWER!!!!!!   PAUL COULD ALSO RAISE THE DEAD….FOR NOW JESUS LIVED INSIDE HIM….  whew  this is just about too much.They could turn the world upside down,  for Now Jesus lived inside them.  It was unseen to this world.  they saw the works  but understood not  how these natural men could accomplish these mighty deeds…….they knew Jesus had done these things…..but now these fishermen were healing everyone who asked for healing…..they were raising dead folks….they were doing might works and miracles…just as Jesus had done.People you have no idea what you are doing when you mock this Holy Ghost.  It is the very soul of JESUS CHRIST.  It is not God the Father.  It is not the Holy  Spirit.  It is the Holy Ghost.  the disembodied soul of a  DEAD PERSON. That is what the dictionary says.  This dead person was JESUS.  Yes, folks, he had to die before He could send this Holy ghost back onto us.  We have received this ghose of Jesus because he had to first die, before he could send his disembodied intelligence back into us. It is the power from on high to annoint the Apostles and us to be His Witnesses.Unless you can perform the supernatural, you do not have any Holy Ghost.  It is certain that you do not have any Holy Spirit.  God the Father does not send that to us.  He gave us to His Son, Jesus.  Jesus sends us His soul, his intelligence.  This is why he said the things which I do shall you do and more, because I go to my Father.  After he went to his Father, he could then send his Ghost upon us…….for God gave Jesus the power God has.Jesus is our God.  It is his soul in us.  Jesus lives inside me.  It is the HOLY GHOST.I will never deny this HOLY GHOST……FOR JESUS DIED  TO GIVE IT TO ME.People wake up!  quit listening to carnal minds taking away your glory, your truth from you.  Listen!  If you have the Holy Ghost in you,  It is Jesus Christ living inside you, in ghost form.He had to die so it would be his ghost.  the disembodied soul of a dead person.   It did not come from the Father, for the Father never died…..indeed cannot die. So he is never said to have a Holy Ghost.  His is the Holy Spirit.Of course all of you who believe they are one and same person, or a trinity, of equal beings,  you have no chance of seeing this great and wonderful truth.Paul said it is CHRIST …….IN….YOU…….THE OR YOUR HOPE OF GLORY.thank you Lord Jesus for giving me your Ghost to teach me your thoughts!Jo Smith9,/17/ 05

Date Posted：07/06/2011 4:21 PMCopy HTMLThe question on Yahoo asked and seemed to be mocking the moving of God in a service.  They alleged that running in church or laughing could not be of God.
this is my answer to that:
******God moves on a person, in his Joy, they may do anything. Laughing in the Spirit is most joyful and is certainly in the Word of God.
I feel sorry for all of you who can scream, hollow, jump up and down, over some silly ball game, but HATE one bit of joyful emotion concerning our glorious god.

God said, make a JOYFUL NOISE unto the Lord.
But this is scorned and forbidden in your DEAD, MORGUE CHURCHES.
God said he hates your SOLOMN MEETINGS. 
So you would rather it be a FUNERAL-type service? and this is making a joyful noise to the Lord.

Lord help you pitiful folks who hate the joy of the Lord. go to a morgue next time. that more suits your kind of ‘worship.

What is not biblical, is this dead, solomn meeting you call worship. God said, I HATE AND I DESPISE your solomn meetings. So there you have the Word of God on this.

You can mock, scorn, and despise the joyful worship, but that is what God loves. Your dead ‘church’ is what God despises.

Edit: @u..You are in a dead church and know nothing about what God does with those who love him.
Genesis 21:6 KJV
And Sarah said , God hath made me to laugh, so that all that hear will laugh with me.
Job 22:19 KJV
The righteous see it, and are glad : and the innocent laugh them to scorn .
Psalm 2:4 KJV
He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh : the Lord shall have them in derision .
Psalm 52:6 KJV
The righteous also shall see , and fear , and shall laugh at him:
Luke 6:21 KJV
Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled . Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh 

so, you think God does not cause us to laugh? you know not the spirit or word of God.
Psalm 126:2 KJV
Then was our mouth filled with laughter, and our tongue with singing: then said they among the heathen, The LORD hath done great things for them.
Psm 81: 10 I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide , and I will fill it

How about leaping? Acts 3:8 KJV
And he leaping up stood , and walked , and entered with them into the temple, walking , and leaping , and praising God.

1 Corinthians 9:24 KJV
Know ye not that they which run in a race run all , but one receiveth the prize? So run , that ye may obtain .
1 Corinthians 9:26 KJV
I therefore so run , not as uncertainly; so fight I , not as one that beateth the air:

running is a sign of victory:
Isaiah 40:31 KJV
But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run , and not be weary ; and they shall walk , and not faint

so see, you truly cannot say what God wants or does. He hates your solemn meetings.

Your dead, dried up meetings is the thing not backed up in Scripture. Why, the Israelites could be heard for miles when they had meetings and praised the Lord. You have no Scripture for your funeral type meetings. show it to me if you do.
God said, rejoice evermore. I would question a person’s christianity if you have never been in the Spirit of God.

Edit again: is it joyful to scream in the Spirit? you have missed it all by never experiencing this. Yes, very much so. it is natural to fear this, before being filled with the Holy Ghost. but now let me ask you, do the kids go to ball games? does all of that maniac screaming scare them there? think on this…more joy over a silly thing like chasing a ball, the the glorious of God? I think you all need to go back to another church, where you can be filled with the Holy Ghost.

From: Freeborn551  (Original Message)Sent: 8/31/2008 6:21 PM

~~ Does God? ~`

Does God give his children vision? I mean other than a mental vision of something to do for him? Let’s just look into the word of God and let God tell us the answer. There are many of Satan’s missionaries out there today who are trying to destroy all of the mighty workings of the Spirit of God upon and to his children of today. Most of them will tell us that these wonderful ‘gifts’ are no longer valid. They say these precious things of the Holy Ghost are not for us today. I say they are workers of Satan and his words they do teach.

Anything that God ever did, He will still do today. He never changes. If He ever healed by just prayer and faith, that is still His way today. If He ever gave the Apostles and Prophets visions, He still does that today. If he ever gave spiritual dreams and interpretations, He still does that today. Today, if you can hear his VOICE harden not your heart as in the provocation. Listen and obey him today and He will give you more. Reject these precious workings of the Holy Ghost, and call it of the devil, and God will never give you any of his glory.

Ac 10:1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band, Ac 10:2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.

Ac 10:3 He saw in a vision evidently about the ninth hour of the day an angel of God coming in to him, and saying unto him, Cornelius.

Ac 10:4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial before God. Ac 10:5 And now send men to Joppa, and call for one Simon, whose surname is Peter:

This man, Cornelius, did not even have the Holy Ghost at this time, yet God gave him a vision of an angel who came and told him exactly what to do.

Now watch:

Ac 10:9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: Ac 10:10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

Ac 10:11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

Ac 10:12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

Ac 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

Ac 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

Ac 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. Ac 10:16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

Three times Peter saw this same vision in which God told him to rise and kill and eat all manner of animals. Not so, Lord. I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. See? How many of you today would say the very same thing, concerning this vision? Huh? See, God had already commanded them NOT TO EAT OF THE UNCLEAN ANIMALS, yet here a vision is, telling Peter to kill and EAT all of these unclean animals.

Was it of God or was Peter just a proud, delusional person? Think on this. How do you really believe about the NT workings of God with his people? Was that a true VISION from God or a delusion from Satan?

By: Jo Smith Aug. 31, 2008

Date Posted：12/31/2017 1:46 AMCopy HTML

Fake Holy Ghost;  fake holy spirit 

By:  Jo Smith…Dec 30, 2017

God was giving me this message last night.  The truth is not liked and this truth most certainly will not be liked…..but the truth must be told.  The Trumpet of God must sound..those who do not take warning will be destroyed, yet we watchmen will have delivered our own soul, by warning you.

Jesus Christ said, few there be that find the way to eternal life.  He said, wide is the gate that leads to hell and many go in thereat.  He said, narrow is the way that leads to life and FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT.

So now, think a minute:  do you think that the MANY who keep holidays,  who make merry and exchange gifts are the FEW THAT WILL FIND ETERNAL LIFE?  IF SO, then the saying is a lie.  Few there be that find it….many keep holidays;  in fact almost everyone does.  So that cannot be the FEW.  Think, how FEW of us stand against this evil? 

But what makes the many think they can still do the very things that God commands us not to do, and still find eternal life?  Simple;  they have a FAKE SPIRIT.  There are many churches that give their people a fake holy ghost.  Yes, they truly think that because they have rejoiced a bit;  laughed a  bit;  spoke in some kind of ‘tongues’ and done a bit of dancing about;  or sing in church or preach, that they have the Holy Ghost.

But then why does not their ‘holy ghost’ …or..holy spirit as the other churches call it…why does not that spirit do what Jesus said the Holy Ghost will do?

Jesus said, ‘when he is come He will LEAD you and GUIDE you into ALL TRUTH’.

Then why do all these many church goers not continually grow in knowledge of the Word of God?  Why do they think the Word of God is of very little importance?  The WORD OF GOD is God and is the very most important thing in the world….It is certainly the most important thing for the Christian life.  Prayer and the Word of God is the only means one has of contacting and knowing God.  When you think you must run to some theater-type church building to get with  God, or to hear from God, or feel God’s spirit, you have a fake spirit.  The true  Spirit of God is with us each and every minute.  We can and should stay in contact with God. 

When you still believe the very same doctrine that you believed years ago, it proves the Holy Ghost is NOT leading you or guiding you into ALL TRUTH.  No church has truth and so if you only listen to them and never study for yourself and grow as God speaks to you, interpreting the Word of God to you,  you will never find truth and therefore have a fake spirit, thinking it is the Holy Ghost or spirit.

Jesus said he that believes shall do the SAME WORKS that I do;  heal the sick;  speak in tongues; cast out devils, etc.  Yet most everyone who says they are believers and have the spirit of God, DO NOT DO ANY OF THIS…..so this proves you have a fake spirit.

God commanded us not to look at how the heathens worship their gods and try to do the same to him..He said do not do anything  as worship to me that I did not COMMAND YOU TO DO.  Deut 12.  God did NOT command us to do any holidays.  He commanded us not to bless the day of the birth of Jesus or anyone. 

He said all that they do is an abomination to me.  That means God hates those things.  He refuses them as worship and will cast you out of his kingdom.  God said, the things which are highly esteemed by man is an abomination to God.  Nothing is more highly esteemed than the holidays;  especially Xmess.  Yet you folks, claiming to have the Holy Ghost, JUST LOVE THIS MESS.  You would not part with it for anything.

You will not even read these messages, for you know they speak against your evil ways.  God will still judge you for your evil.  When you teach children that Dec 25 is the birthday of Jesus and that God wants us to do such as decorating trees, exchanging gifts, all kinds of mess, to celebrate that birthday, you are sinning big time and leading those children down the road to hell fire.  You have a fake spirit when you can do these things and just love this evil mess.  You know not the true God.  You have NOT the true Holy  Ghost or Holy Spirit.

You can deceive yourself all you wish to, but you will still be sent to hell, for you are in total disobedience to the Living God.  Jesus said, if you love me, keep my commandments.  He commanded us not to do such things…..so you could not love Jesus…You have the fake jesus.  Yes, Paul said they should bring up a false jesus.  they did just that and every church out there is worshiping this fake jesus;  loving the fake holy spirit/ghost.  Can you really think that the lies told of Xmess, easter, halloween, and all such evil things, really bless Jesus?  Please Jesus?  are done because of Jesus?  to please Jesus?  no one with the true Holy Ghost could believe those lies.  You think the lies of santa and his fake deers is done because of Jesus?  Then all you know is that fake jesus.  The true Jesus said, SPEAK TRUTH TO EVERYONE.  All LIARS will have their part in the lake of fire.  That is where your fake holidays are sending you and your children…hell fire. 

Just because you may have once had a little something with what you call God, does not mean that you are a true child of God today.  When you can love the evil things of this world, such as TV, movies….lying made-up books, holidays, you most certainly do NOT HAVE THE TRUE SPIRIT OF GOD.  You could not do those things if you did.

You can think I am wrong in this all you wish…you think cause you love some church or preacher or fake prophet, that you are a child of God….but that is not what proves you are a child of God.  Obeying God, loving the things that God said to do and hating the things that God condemns is what proves which spirit you have.  When you cannot give up your holidays, your other sins, you DO NOT HAVE THE HOLY GHOST.  You are not a child of God….you are a child of satan.

And this is why you hate for me to teach this truth.  You cannot stand to hear the truth.  You cannot stand to talk about these things and this proves you have a satanic spirit and call it the holy spirit.  You are totally deceived.

When you must cut someone off, that speaks to you about  God,  when you  must change the conversation because you cannot speak of the things of God and Scripture, it proves you have a FAKE SPIRIT and not the Spirit of God.

You refuse to be corrected.  You refuse to listen to those of us who speak truth to you.  You lead your children down that same road to destruction.  You have a FAKE SPIRIT AND IT IS NOT HOLY AT ALL.  It is evil spirit of satan. 

Date Posted：08/19/2019 1:29 AMCopy HTML

marvelous message:

The Wall

By: Jo Smith….July 9,2016

Daniel 9King James Version (KJV)

9 In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans;

2 In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.

Israel, or rather Judah, Jerusalem, down in Babylon for the seventy years captivity. Seventy years.

11 Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.

The entire nation had transgressed God’s law and now he poured the curse on them.

13 As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the Lord our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.

If you do not make prayer to the Lord He will not turn you from your iniquities, and you will not understand his truth.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Notice all the things that were to be done in those seventy weeks….bring in everlasting righteousness, make an end of sins, etc. Marvelous promises. All of this was to be done during that seventy weeks.

Notice also that there was to be different divisions of times during this seventy weeks. It is cut up into three different time periods. The first seven weeks run from the time of the commandment to RESTORE and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah is to be seven weeks.

Then another sixty-two weeks. This makes sixty-nine weeks. There is one left.

That last week runs from the time the Messiah was cut off until the end of the seventy weeks.

The street shall be built again. The STREET shows the path of the ways of God; the right doctrine or teaching is our street. If you go down a wrong street, it shows false doctrine, leading to hell.

But that is not all: ….and the WALL, (is to be built)..even in TROUBLOUS TIMES.

There you have it all laid out….the path till the end of sins and unrighteousness.

The WALL is the most important element for a safe city. Without that WALL the enemies can just come in anytime and destroy the city. The WALL is your protection and must be built BEFORE the City is built; else the City will be destroyed before you can build the Wall.

Nehemiah 1: 3 And they said unto me, The remnant that are left of the captivity there in the province are in great affliction and reproach: the wall of Jerusalem also is broken down, and the gates thereof are burned with fire.

Nehemiah was in Babylon, serving the king. Someone from Jerusalem came and talked to him and told him the above…the WALL is broken down and the gates are burned with fire.

He cried and prayed and confessed the sins of his people, just as Daniel had done. They are seeking help from God.

10 When Sanballat the Horonite, and Tobiah the servant, the Ammonite, heard of it, it grieved them exceedingly that there was come a man to seek the welfare of the children of Israel.

11 So I came to Jerusalem, and was there three days.

Take note of the Sanballat and Tobiah. They are satan’s ministers, trying to stop the work of building the Wall and the City. it grieved them that someone was seeking the welfare of the children of Israel. We have the ‘sanballats and tobiahs’ here today. There are many, seeking to stop this country from turning back to God and FREEDOM.

Notice that it took him three days to come to Jerusalem…representing the three days that Jesus was in the grave.

Enter Donald Trump: … 13 And I went out by night by the gate of the valley, even before the dragon well, and to the dung port, and viewed the walls of Jerusalem, which were broken down, and the gates thereof were consumed with fire.

(Mr Trump fits this exactly. He will be seventy years old when he goes into office and his message is BUILD THE WALL. Keep out the enemies. )

As Nehemiah went out alone at night, to view the torn down WALL and the gates, and he made a plan how to fix or restore it. Donald Trump has had time and occasion to see fully what is wrong with our nation and figure out how to fix it. God is leading this man to help us as he led Nehemiah.

15 Then went I up in the night by the brook, and viewed the wall, and turned back, and entered by the gate of the valley, and so returned.

16 And the rulers knew not whither I went, or what I did; neither had I as yet told it to the Jews, nor to the priests, nor to the nobles, nor to the rulers, nor to the rest that did the work.

17 Then said I unto them, Ye see the distress that we are in, how Jerusalem lieth waste, and the gates thereof are burned with fire: come, and let us build up the wall of Jerusalem, that we be no more a reproach.

18 Then I told them of the hand of my God which was good upon me; as also the king’s words that he had spoken unto me. And they said, Let us rise up and build. So they strengthened their hands for this good work.

19 But when Sanballat the Horonite, and Tobiah the servant, the Ammonite, and Geshem the Arabian, heard it, they laughed us to scorn, and despised us, and said, What is this thing that ye do? will ye rebel against the king?

20 Then answered I them, and said unto them, The God of heaven, he will prosper us; therefore we his servants will arise and build: but ye have no portion, nor right, nor memorial, in Jerusalem.

See how Nehemiah’s concern was building the WALL of Jerusalem, that we be no more a reproach. This is the same passion that Donald Trump has for America. He wants to build a WALL that will keep us secure from enemies.

Notice here, that Sanballat and Tobiah mocked him and laughed him to scorn. That is what Donald had to face when he first began speaking his plans. But God will prosper his journey as he did Nehemiah’s.

He told those men, who were not of Jerusalem, that you have no portion, nor right is Jerusalem. Very same message Donald is telling the illegal immigrants that are here. It is the very same pattern. So, this man, Donald, is an earthly sign of what is going on in heaven.

Nehemiah 4King James Version (KJV)

4 But it came to pass, that when Sanballat heard that we builded the wall, he was wroth, and took great indignation, and mocked the Jews.

2 And he spake before his brethren and the army of Samaria, and said, What do these feeble Jews? will they fortify themselves? will they sacrifice? will they make an end in a day? will they revive the stones out of the heaps of the rubbish which are burned?

3 Now Tobiah the Ammonite was by him, and he said, Even that which they build, if a fox go up, he shall even break down their stone wall.

4 Hear, O our God; for we are despised: and turn their reproach upon their own head, and give them for a prey in the land of captivity:

5 And cover not their iniquity, and let not their sin be blotted out from before thee: for they have provoked thee to anger before the builders.

6 So built we the wall; and all the wall was joined together unto the half thereof: for the people had a mind to work.

7 But it came to pass, that when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and the Arabians, and the Ammonites, and the Ashdodites, heard that the walls of Jerusalem were made up, and that the breaches began to be stopped, then they were very wroth,

8 And conspired all of them together to come and to fight against Jerusalem, and to hinder it.

9 Nevertheless we made our prayer unto our God, and set a watch against them day and night, because of them.

When Sanballat heard that we builded THE WALL, we was angry and mocked them. Later after they had half the WALL build, and they could see that the work was truly being done, they became very angry tried to stop the work. Then they said, if a fox goes up on that WALL he could break it down. So see, even many of our own citizens hate for the WALL TO BE BUILT. They will pretend it cannot be done and that it will be no good. But truth of it is, they KNOW IT IS NEEDED AND WILL BE DONE AND KEEP OUT OUR ENEMIES.

THE FEEBLE deceived folks think we should just let our enemies come in and destroy our nation and homes.

10 And Judah said, The strength of the bearers of burdens is decayed, and there is much rubbish; so that we are not able to build the wall.

11 And our adversaries said, They shall not know, neither see, till we come in the midst among them, and slay them, and cause the work to cease.

See, it is the same today; they try to say this work cannot be done and our adversaries want to kill us and Donald and stop the great work.

14 And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, Be not ye afraid of them: remember the Lord, which is great and terrible, and fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your houses.

15 And it came to pass, when our enemies heard that it was known unto us, and God had brought their counsel to nought, that we returned all of us to the wall, every one unto his work.

Watch the exact thing going on today as Donald tells this nation of fight for OUR COUNTRY; our homes. Then they returned to building the WALL. This is God moving on Donald Trump to build us a wall to keep us safe from our enemies. God will fight for us. If God be for us who can be against us? Praise his Holy Name.

18 For the builders, every one had his sword girded by his side, and so builded. And he that sounded the trumpet was by me.

The workers worked, carried a sword and one sounded the TRUMPET BY DONALD.

19 And I said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, The work is great and large, and we are separated upon the wall, one far from another.

20 In what place therefore ye hear the sound of the trumpet, resort ye thither unto us: our God shall fight for us.

Now we are hearing many saying we are separated or divided. some are calling for unity. In the place that ye hear the TRUMPET, come to us and God will fight for us. Can you, Do you HEAR the Trump? if so, join in on this great work.

Nehemiah 6King James Version (KJV)

6 Now it came to pass when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and Geshem the Arabian, and the rest of our enemies, heard that I had builded the wall, and that there was no breach left therein; (though at that time I had not set up the doors upon the gates;)

[See the affirmation? I truly think this proves that Donald will go in and complete this work. It is a true and exact pattern.]

2 That Sanballat and Geshem sent unto me, saying, Come, let us meet together in some one of the villages in the plain of Ono. But they thought to do me mischief.

3 And I sent messengers unto them, saying, I am doing a great work, so that I cannot come down: why should the work cease, whilst I leave it, and come down to you?

These wicked men and those who were joined with them never ceased to try and stop the great work of building the WALL. But They finished the Wall and the enemies were angry because God helped them do the work.

Here is our hope:

15 So the wall was finished in the twenty and fifth day of the month Elul, in fifty and two days.

16 And it came to pass, that when all our enemies heard thereof, and all the heathen that were about us saw these things, they were much cast down in their own eyes: for they perceived that this work was wrought of our God.

They could not stop Donald from building our great WALL.

Now you might think a great city does not need a WALL. Well let’s just see what God said about this:

Revelation 20: 10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,

11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:

13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.

14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

Now let all mouths be stopped with this Word of God. This great Holy City of God had to have a great WALL BUILT BEFORE THE CITY WAS BUILT.

This great WALL even had twelve foundations. Such a mighty WALL!

17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.

The WALL and the GATES are very important to this great city. All her enemies are KEPT OUT.

Now, there was a city dwelling without walls, gates or bars. Let’s see about that:

Ezekiel 38: 9 Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

10 Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.

13 Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?

So, who were these people who were at REST? They dwelt safely without walls, having neither bars nor gates?

Why was the enemy able to come in and take a prey and carry away silver and gold, cattle and goods?

It was the CHURCH. Yep, this is the seven Churches of the New Testament. Jesus gave them REST by the baptism of the Holy Ghost. They were not under LAW, or a WALL AND GATE.

But what took place?

Satan came in and took the prey; he took their silver and gold. He took away cattle, which is Christian people. Their silver and gold was the glorious baptism of the Holy Ghost and the gifts of the Spirit. They could heal the sick, cast out devils and all kinds of powerful things….at first….UNTIL Satan came into their midst. The seat of Satan was actually in those churches.

See, they had no WALL TO KEEP HIM. He began slowly taking them into false doctrine. He made them take up the idol holidays and that robbed them of their gifts of the Spirit.

At the end of this thing called ‘church’ at the seventh church, they are now all the way to the bottom. They are NAKED, BLIND, FOOLISH, AND DESTITUTE.

So what needs to be done for them?

Donald needs to come along and REBUILD THAT GREAT WALL. The City of the Holy Ghost will have a great wall and great gates. The enemy will never be able to get in and rob this City.

The seven churches IS NOT THIS GREAT CITY. The dwelt without Walls or gates. Just let any old wolf in and pay him to devour those helpless sheep.

It will not happen in this City with the GREAT AND HIGH WALL. Do not allow anyone to trick you into thinking that we do not NEED THAT WALL. yes we do.

If not, the great Holy City of God would NOT HAVE A GREAT AND HIGH WALL AND GATES. God said, no thief, or liar or murder or even a fearful person can get into this WALLED CITY.

This is a perfect type; a perfect sign in earth that it is time for this great Holy City to be built and this great and HIGH WALL. Donald Trump is our great sign that is it time…to rise up and BUILD.

Glory to God for this great and true Revelation.

Amen!

From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 2/6/2005 10:38 PMLets take a close look at this; it is so good on this subject.

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Ro 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

As Sesible has already stated, here Paul is asking a question for the very purpose of answering their question.

Shall we continue in sin, that this grace you teach about may abound. See, some lyers had been saying that Paul taught this. He is about to dispell this delusion.


Ro 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

God forbid. Forbid what? That we CONTINUE IN SIN. Grace did NOT give anyone the license to continue in sin. God forbids this.

We that are DEAD TO SIN. Who is DEAD TO SIN? According to most of you church folks, no one is dead to sin. But According to this, some people ARE DEAD TO SIN. Else why ask this question? How shall — WE— THAT — ARE— DEAD — TO — SIN–. There you have it. Some are dead to sin. who?

How shall this group who is dead to sin, live any longer in sin? It cannot be.
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Ro 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Somebody was BAPTIZED into Jesus Christ. Who? Those who received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost according to Acts 2:38. By ONE Spirit are we Baptized INTO ONE BODY. This is the ONE AND ONLY WAY OF BEING PLACED INTO THE BODY OF JESUS.

No sin is in the body of Jesus. If you have been baptized into this body of Chirst, You are DEAD TO SIN. NO LONGER LIVING IN SIN. GOD FORBIDS THIS.
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Ro 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.


See, that we were BAPTIZED INTO THIS DEATH. What death? Dead to sin.
We died there with Jesus.
We were then raised up same as Jesus to WALK, each day, in NEWNESS of LIFE.

Sin is death. Life is salvation. So where are you? Dead in sins? Or dead to sin? It has to be one or the other.

Dead in trespasses and sins. Alive to God. Which are you? See that we are teaching exactly what the Word of God says?
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Ro 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

IF…….we have been planted in the likeness of his death, (Baptism)………. we shall be also in the LIKENESS (new living, Holy living)–of his RESURRECTION.

Was he RESURRECTED back into sin? Nope. Then how can you say you are in the likeness of his resurrection, and are full of sin?

Is this the LIKENESS OF HIS RESURRECTION? ARE YOU SAYING WHEN JESUS WAS RESURRECTED, HE WAS FULL OF SIN?

Then if you are in that likeness, how can you say you are full of sin?

Better listen to the Word and not all these new agers running around screeming out their own shame.

Date Posted：09/05/2010 3:34 AMCopy HTMLSince we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it?
As long as we continue to live in Jesus , we won’t sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. If you continue is sin you have not met him and neither are you known of him. He died to take away all the sins of the world. So why do you continue in sin and say I am a saved sinner, saved by grace? You must not understand what Grace is? This makes no sense to me.

He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God, whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,

When people keep on sinning, it shows they belong to the Devil, who has been sinning since the beginning.

But the Son of God came to destroy these works of the Devil. Those who have been born into God’s family do not sin, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they have been born of God. God knows no sin. If you are born of God you don’t keep on sinning, because sin is an iniquity with God. If you continue in sin you are not a child of God but you are a child of Satan.

The wages of sin is death but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Let sin not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. Sin is no longer your master, for you are no longer subject to the law. So since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does this mean we can go on sinning? Of course not!

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
 

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From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 3/27/2005 9:21 PM

All One

1Cor. 1: 9. God is faithful, by whom ye were called unto the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.
10. Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
11. For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.
12. Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13. Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14. I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15. Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16. And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17. For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

18. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19. For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

Verse 9–God called us to the fellowship of his Son Jesus Christ our Lord.

Now did this say to the fellowship of himself? Why not? No, it said of his Son. It never at any time does away with this fact that Jesus is the Son of God. It does not declare that Jesus is God.

V10– (very important)…I beseech you that ye all —- (what? yes. ALL)— speak the SAME THING. And that there be NO DIVISIONS among you…. But be perfectly joined in the same mind and same judgment.

Now, take a long, slow look at that —- He wants us ALL to speak the same thing…. To have NO DIVISIONS… to be perfectly joined together in the same mind… WHY?

Because we are Christ’s Kingdom; and Christ’s Kingdom is the IMAGE OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

So how can just 1 being be ALL PERFECTLY UNITED; JOINED…. SPEAKING THE SAME THING…HAVING THE SAME MIND…. BE PERFECTLY JOINED TOGETHER?

V11—- there were contentions among them… so here they had DEPARTED from that image of God. They were bringing disgrace upon that perfect image of Christ, the image of God.

V12- some say I am of Paul – others say I am of Apollo or Cephas or Christ….

Now what were they doing? Why is this so upsetting to Paul? Because they are doing the same thing the witch, the whore churches do…. Divide the kingdom of God. Yes, divide it. Say, there is Jesus only…. No, there are 3….No, there is Mary, or the pope, or bro. So-and-so. Some say there is Santa clause. Etc. But the main thing is Satan has them DIVIDED. Now DIVIDED is opposite of UNITED.

Matters not what false doctrine you come up with — just depart from that truth, that God is a many-membered kingdom in perfect unity = perfectly JOINED TOGETHER.

Now if God is not a kingdom, PERFECTLY JOINED TOGETHER, WHY DID PAUL SAY THIS IS HOW THE CHURCH IS SUPPOSED TO BE?

V13–Is Christ divided? (Now answer that for yourself – does your doctrine divide Christ?) Do you contend that there is Jesus only? Or God is 3 people? You have divided Christ if you say either one of these.

V19–…I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

Now who is this? Those ‘wise’ folks who departed from the simplicity of the Written Word and went and walked in another way. They took up ‘scholarly’ doctors; they took up commentary after commentary, dictionary after dictionary of the WISE OF THIS WORLD, who denied the truth of God’s Word.

But God said I will destroy all that ‘wisdom’ and bring it to nothing. All of your understanding you get from all those man-made books will fail.

Cpt. 2: 13. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Now the great Apostle Paul said (and he was a very educated man)- but he said he used not men’s wisdom to teach with.

1 Corinthians 3

1. And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
2. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4. For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5. Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6. I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

8. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
9. For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.

Here Paul said that if you say I am of one or another, thus dividing them, then you are CARNAL.

V 5 & 6 shows that we have different jobs to do in the body, but we are just ministers by whom ye believed. He did the job of planting. Apollos watered, but it was God who gave the increase. That is all that matters.

V7 shows that we are nothing who do these jobs, only God is.

V8 now this is very important -He that planteth and he that watereth are ONE. GET THAT, THEY BOTH WERE –ONE.

Now is he saying they merged and became 1 and the same man? Of course not.

Then why are carnal minded people saying that Jesus and His Father being one means they merged and became the same person or being?

See how carnal this reasoning is? Hope some of you can really learn from this. Christ is the image of God. We are not to be divided. We are ALL ONE EVEN AS THEY ARE ALL ONE.

I see it clearer everyday. That Jesus-only doctrine is straight out of hell from Satan. (I just hate to capitalize that word)–

They are telling this world that the only reason God can be one (united – loving- unselfish-perfectly joined with others, etc.) is BECAUSE HE IS ONLY 1 PERSON. See? No one else to have to contend with; no one else to have to love as yourself (this is the whole principle of Godliness)–

No one else to have to be perfectly joined in mind with – no one to have to get alone with– just yourself. Wow! What a nest of evil he hatched up when he thought that one up!

See how shrewd this evil worker is — first he used the WITCH to start the big lie that God is really manifest in 3 people. (Thus calling the mortal man God) and pulling God down to the level of man.

THEN – after he gets the whole world deceived into believing this lie, he starts one even more insidious, to make more confusion — he gets a big bunch of folks screaming that Jesus is God and the only person involved in the Godhead.

But though the revealing of the true Holy Ghost and Paul’s precious words, God is once again showing the World the real truth – that God is a kingdom of perfectly joined together members; each loving and esteeming the other as their own self. Not one of them lifting themselves up above the other.

Realize that it takes more than -1- person or thing to be joined in unity with others. Just ‘one’ being could not be joined in perfect unity for what would he be joined or united with? See, this cannot be the true answer. God has to be many to be united in harmony. The Church has to be many to united in harmony. We are ALL ONE.

Such pure Beauty.

By: Jo Smith

PREDESTINATION

Through the years, so many men have just guessed at these things; and brought up teaching which are not correct with the Word and this is why most people are in total darkness.In the Word of God, we find that when the N.T. started, the way of salvation was purely by faith in Jesus Christ. Anything else is rejected by God.

Now, that is God’s CHOICE; in other words, this is what God elected. God did not elect certain people to be saved — and certain others to be lost. If this were true, it would CONTRADICT the Word, which said, whosoever will may come and take of the water of life freely.The Word also says that God is NOT WILLING that ANY should perish, but that all should come to repentance. So, this is God’s will or His choice; THAT ALL BE SAVED.

So this alone does away with the ‘theory’ that God chose some to be saved; and chose others to be lost. So, that is established with the Written Word.

Then what does this mean?—-Romans 8:29—For whom he did FOREKNOW, he also did PREDESTINATE to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

V30–Moreover, whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called them he also justified: and whom he justified them he also glorified.

Now the big question is this: WHAT DOES THE FOREKNOWING MEAN?

Many have supposed that it means God knew in the very beginning who would and who would not, therefore only those whom he knew WOULD can be saved. But, see this does not fit the thing about whosoever will may come.

So, that cannot be the true answer.Remember in Jesus parables, he said to the ones he told to go away into everlasting fire, I NEVER KNEW you—– so, what is THIS saying?

I NEVER KNEW YOU? — When is this said? It is said AT THE JUDGMENT AT THE LAST DAY — AFTER THE RESURRECTION.So this is when he is speaking of when he said WHOM HE DID FOREKNOW — them he had PREDESTINATED that this group —(those he had foreknown —- BEFORE the day of judgment — before the day of RESURRECTION) — IF HE HAD KNOWN YOU BEFORE THAT DAY — He chose or predestinated, = predetermined — that this group of people (what group?)— (The ones he had known before the judgment)— would be conformed to the image of his dear Son.

God did NOT elect certain ones to be saved and others to be lost —NO NO NO!! He elected that those who came in by FAITH IN JESUS — that those HE KNEW BEFORE THE RESURRECTION — would be saved and everyone else lost.

So, the predestination is not when he calls you — the predestination is God’s choice in the way we are saved. God chose that the ones who come in by FAITH in Jesus would also be conformed to the image of Jesus and therefore be saved.

Now, the next big question is HOW DOES HE KNOW YOU?The answer to this is simple — he knows us by putting his Spirit into us —- this is accomplished by the Baptism of the Holy Ghost — and there is NO OTHER WAY.

That is why I stress this Baptism of the Holy Ghost so much — for without this, you are none of his —without this experience — Jesus has not KNOWN you.

The ‘knowing’ is the same thing in the Word as when it said, Adam KNEW Eve and she CONCEIVED AND BARE CHILDREN.It uses this term many times in the Word to show the marriage relationship —so it is the same with Jesus and us —this is HOW he knows us — by putting his Spirit into us— this is how we conceive from him and bring forth a child of God = ourselves.

This is how we become conformed to the image of Jesus, by having and obeying the Holy Ghost; which is his Spirit.

Now, the answer is this: if Jesus places his Spirit into you BEFORE the day of the RESURRECTION, then he predestinated that this one would be saved.

If he did NOT place his Spirit into one BEFORE the day of the RESURRECTION AND JUDGMENT, he elected that this one would be lost.It is this simple. If he FOREKNEW you (=knew you before the resurrection)— then you will be saved.

Now, lets go into Ephesians one to finish this message.

V4–According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

V5–Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

V6–To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the Beloved.Now, at first glance, one can come to the mistaken conclusion that this Scripture is saying that God CHOSE us to be saved —- before the world began.

But, you must always interpret one Scripture by another one. You cannot find the real truth from just one Scripture. This has to fit the Scripture saying whosoever will may come.

So, WHAT WAS PREDESTINATED? Look at it again — he said he predestinated us unto ADOPTION — so what is ADOPTION? This is the fact that God the Father accepts us as HIS CHILDREN because we belong to Jesus, God’s Son. God adopts us through Jesus. The fact that we came to Jesus by FAITH causes God the Father to adopt us as His Children.The adoption is when we come out of the grave in the IMAGE OF THE SON, JESUS.

Look at verse 6–To the praise of the glory of his GRACE, wherein he hath made us ACCEPTED in the beloved.See, this said that by his GRACE, he accepted us in Jesus. This is why it is so very important to leave LAW and come into GRACE. It is by GRACE that we receive the adoption of children — in other words—when the predestinated election of FAITH is applied to us — this is how we obtain the promise of salvation.

Now, v7–In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his (WHAT? LAW OR GRACE?) — (look at it)—- it said, by his GRACE.

There is no other way. God did NOT PREDESTINATE that those who keep the LAW will find salvation — NO, NO. He determined beforehand that we would obtain his salvation by his GRACE —because we obtained forgiveness of sins by the blood of Jesus.

So it is easy to see that this is the PREDESTINATION —- THIS IS THE PREDETERMINED will of God — that we receive life by obtaining forgiveness of sins by faith in the blood of Jesus.

All who come in by faith, and receive this forgiveness of sins, are Baptized into the body of Jesus, the true Church of the firstborn — and they will, at the resurrection— come forth in the same image of the RESURRECTED SON OF GOD —- THIS IS HOW HE IS THE FIRST BORN AMONG MANY BRETHREN—— WHEN WE ALSO ARE RESURRECTED INTO HIS SAME IMAGE.

This is the predetermined will of God— that all, who come in by faith, are to be resurrected as born again Sons of God.

Now v11— (the only other place in the Word that PREDESTINATION IS MENTIONED)—

In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will

V12–that we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

(See, this said you FIRST trusted in Christ — so this VERY CLEARLY places this obtaining our inheritance to be AFTER we trusted in Christ: not way back yonder in the regions of past we cannot even see.V13–In whom ye also trusted, AFTER that ye HEARD the word of truth, the GOSPEL OF YOUR SALVATION: in whom also AFTER that ye believed, ye WERE SEALED WITH THAT HOLY SPIRIT OF PROMISE,

(See, once again this makes it very clear, that this promise of obtaining the PREDESTINATED salvation, comes AFTER one hears the gospel and AFTER one believes then, AFTER, Not when they believe, but it said AFTER YOU BELIEVED, THEN AFTER THAT, YOU ARE SEALED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.)

V14—Which is the earnest of our inheritance UNTIL the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

Now, this shows without a doubt, that our inheritance of redemption of the body comes later = at the resurrection.So, all this proves without a doubt, that the PREDESTINATION is this: God predetermined that all who come to Jesus by faith, obtain forgiveness of sins by Jesus’ blood, and later are sealed with the Holy Ghost, then at the day of redemption, which is the day of the resurrection, then, we will receive our inheritance, which is our glorified body, or the likeness of his dear Son.

Then, at the Day of Judgment, if he did all this to you, = foreknew you, by putting his Spirit into you — then you will be conformed to his image = have a glorified body. This is the predestination of God.

See how the Word of God explains all these things?

The ‘predestination’ of Scripture has never been taught right. They did not get enough revelation from God to get this truth. It clearly shows that …at the time of judgment…if God KNEW you before that time = judgment, (knowing meaning putting his Spirit into you, as husband/wife…) then he predestined that these, whom HE foreknew….BEFORE JUDGMENT…will be conformed to the image of his Son = glorified.

It is speaking about before the time of judgment, not of way back before we were born.


God chose those who obey his word, coming to him through his Son Jesus Christ. Many are called, but few chosen….this shows that God gives every one a change, by calling them. But the ones he chose are those who obey the call.

He chose those who live a Holy and Godly life, in this present world, to be like his Son, at resurrection.

It is really so simple and fits all Scripture. NO other teaching on this subject can say that.

By: Jo Smith

From: nellie  (Original Message)Sent: 12/22/2001 5:42 PM

1Tim. 5:20–Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

v21–I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

11Tim. 4:2–Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Here Paul is telling the nature of the work of the ministry; he says it is to preach the Word, to reprove, rebuke, and exhort . Now, if reproving and rebuking is the work of the ministry, why let Satan make you afraid to say anything which we see needs to be taken care of. Of course, I know that all young Christians may not yet be equipped to do this. But don’t let Satan, or misunderstandings, make you think that because another Christian is able to do this, that they are being disruptive or sowing discord or any of that sort of thing. If no one is able to do this part of the ministry, then many will go on in things which will hurt their souls.

I want to show you that this is NOT contrary to Christianity; rather, it is very needful; and is commanded by the Word to do this.

Now back to verse 3—For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

v4–And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

So, this is where people wind up, when they turn away from truth—they are turned unto fables. Just look where the church world is at today—full of old fables—-here comes Santa Clause —here comes Peter cottontail—Easter Parade—here comes tooth fairy –old jack-o-lantern–watch-night service–trick-or-treat–how many were in Sunday School—how much money we took up—who had a birthday–who had an anniversary–

Where is true worship?

Titus 1:9—Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by SOUND DOCTRINE both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

Webster’s— EXHORT= 1.to incite by ARGUMENT OR ADVICE: urge strongly: to give warnings or advice : make urgent appeals.

v10–For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:

v11–Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.

v13–This witness is true. Wherefore REBUKE them SHARPLY, that they may be sound in the faith.

Now, this makes it clear that a true minister should sharply rebuke those given over to fables– WHY? so they will be sound in the faith.

Now, don’t you see, that this is the real reason for rebuke, and debate— to help them become sound in the true faith? What better work could one do?  See, too, that these false teachers subvert whole houses?  We need to try to stop that. We need to try to win back homes to God.  People, being afraid to rebuke is one of the main reasons so many are now totally in the ‘clutches�?of Satan.

Titus 2: 15–These things speak, and EXHORT, and REBUKE with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

So, you should not despise the one who is diligently rebuking sin, or false doctrine or fables. This is to restore that person to sound doctrine (or truth).

Webster’s— Rebuke = 1. to criticize sharply ; REPRIMAND

REPROVE = 1. TO SCOLD OR CORRECT USU. GENTLY OR WITH KINDLY INTENT

2. TO EXPRESS DISAPPROVAL OF

3. disprove, refute, convince. convict. to express rebuke or reproof.

Now, all I wanted to do is to show you that rebuking and reproving is part of the work of God; and should not be looked upon as trouble making or anything of that sort.

Of course, we should all use Christian love and wisdom about this matter. We should not just use this as an excuse to just jump on someone because we do not like them or what they teach. It has to be done in love, with the intent to help that person draw closer to God and truth.

One more verse: Eph. 5:11–And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather REPROVE them.

v13–But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

So, here he is saying that REPROVING IS MAKING LIGHT = Truth.

Date Posted：07/26/2015 10:45 PM

~~~~~~  Whose threshold do you enter? ~~~~~~  

Ezekiel 43Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

43 Afterward he brought me to the gate, even the gate that looketh toward the east:  2 and, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory. 3 And it was according to the appearance of the vision which I saw, even according to the vision that I saw when I came to destroy the city: and the visions were like the vision that I saw by the river Chebar; and I fell upon my face. 4 And the glory of the Lord came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect is toward the east. 5 So the spirit took me up, and brought me into the inner court; and, behold, the glory of the Lord filled the house. 6 And I heard him speaking unto me out of the house; and the man stood by me.

The Glory of God = Jesus Christ, resurrected into the image of God.  He came from the way of the EAST.  His VOICE  = like MANY WATERS, OR PEOPLES.  Rev 17.

Rev 21: …the Lamb’s wife… v11.. Having the GLORY OF GOD.. 

Rev 14: 2, I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of MANY WATERS…

So, this ties together the voice of many waters as being the voice of Christ or the GLORY OF GOD.  The vision he had be the river Chebar is that of the living creature with the four faces, which is the Christ  = Jesus and the Christians.

So now, this is the glory which came from the way of the East.  In the vision above, he has come to destroy the city.  So which city is this?  The one steeped in IDOLATRY.   It is the  imposter, or the harlot city, (church) pretending to be the bride of Christ.

Why do you suppose it is that almost everyone is deceived by this harlot, which sits upon MANY WATERS?  It is because of her pretense at religion.  Her ‘things’ which she pretends is to worship God is just a copy and it is something that God HATES.  His word is full of his hatred of this formal religion.

One of the most deceiving ideas is that of UNCONDITIONAL love.  It is not taught in any Scripture.  It is a trick of satan to keep you from God, since you do not ever attempt to meet HIS CONDITIONS.

God said in one place, my fear is taught after the precepts of man.  They say, must go to church.  God has never said that.  They say must tithe to some preacher.  God has never taught that.  Tithing is a thing of OT law, to help feed the priest, who never had inheritance and to feed those who had nothing.  But now I want you to watch what it is that God hates and how it deceives the masses.

7 And he said unto me, Son of man, the place of my throne, and the place of the soles of my feet, where I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel for ever, and my holy name, shall the house of Israel no more defile, neither they, nor their kings, by their whoredom, nor by the carcases of their kings in their high places. 8 In their setting of their threshold by my thresholds, and their post by my posts, and the wall between me and them, they have even defiled my holy name by their abominations that they have committed: wherefore I have consumed them in mine anger. 9 Now let them put away their whoredom, and the carcases of their kings, far from me, and I will dwell in the midst of them for ever.

First, to understand truth you must learn that when God speaks of Israel or the Jews, he is speaking of the CHRISTIANS. Romans 2:28.

There is NOT two different peoples of God. There is NOT two different ways of salvation;  one to them and another to us.  You are ALL ONE.

What old Israel did to vex God is the very same thing about church which vexes God.  They had defiled God’s Holy name, his throne and the place of the soles of his feet = earth.  How did they defile these?  Read the verses…  by their whoredom, the carcases of their kings;   and in setting of their THRESHOLD by God’s THRESHOLD.

By setting their post by God’s post, and thus was a wall between God and them.

Because of these things God consumed them in his ANGER.  

Whoredom is the worship of idols.  Not one church out there is free from this sin.  They all worship idols.  Even their ‘jesus’ is the idol and his ‘mother’ is the idol that the Catholic church brought up.  It is not the Jesus of Scripture.  Nothing they say about ‘him’ matches what God said about HIM in Scripture.

They keep all the idol holidays, so they are in whoredom against God.

But now watch this:

They set up their THRESHOLD by the THRESHOLD of God.  What is that?  Threshold is where you enter into the DOOR TO ENTER INTO A ROOM.

The place of ‘worship’ is supposed to be to WORSHIP GOD, right?  You heart, mind and love should be solely on God and Jesus, right?  You are not supposed to enter in to listen to some man;  watch some man; keep your eyes and thoughts on some man, now is it?  Is not this HIS THRESHOLD INSTEAD OF GOD’S THRESHOLD?  Of course it is, to any honest person.

Whose church do you attend?  Mr so-and so’s church.  Who is teaching you today?  Mr so-and-so.  He blesses me.  I learn from him.  I obey him.  who?  mr so-and-so.  whatever he says is the way I believe it.  Jesus said, my father’s house is to be a house of PRAYER>  so how much praying is done when you enter into that man’s threshold…  , where you truly pray and seek God?  Someone mumbles a minute of stuff, to pretend you are having a worship service.  BUT do the people, I mean all of them, who enter into this threshold, PRAY?  No, and no.  and you all know it.  You are there to see mr so-and-so.  You give God nothing.  He gives you nothing.  When you leave this man’s threshold, you go out and forget about this stuff, until the next time you enter into mr so-and-so’s threshold.  Then it is the same dead thing all over again.  … until you die and drop off into hell fire.

The man whose threshold you enter each week, has USURPED THE PLACE OF GOD IN YOUR HEART, LIFE AND MIND.  He has become your god.  He came there seeking to be worshiped and to get your money, and you allowed that, for it is how you also want it…. see, no need for YOU to study the word of God…no need for you to really PRAY and seek God.  No need for you to have your mind on Jesus and his truth.  Mr so-and-so is all you want or need.  So mr so-and-so has set up his threshold against God’s threshold. God will consume all who do this.

That mr so-and-so has set up his post by God’s post.  He says, you just come and listen to ME and pay ME and all will be well.  The entire group sits facing this one MAN, and adoring him. Even those who do not adore him, have their minds on him, one way or another.  He is their god.

He tells you don’t you dare go to some other ‘hitching’ post when I have mine open.  So there you sit, tied to mr so-an-so’ hitching post.  He has you bound and totally deceived.  You are not tied to God.  You are tied to mr-so-and-so.  Anyone who dares try to show you any truth in God’s word, is held in hate and slandered so no one will listen to them.  That one is not tied to mr so-and so.  So he is ostracized.

All of this has put up a wall between you and God.  So because of this God is going to consume you and them.   What else did God say you had vexed him over?  Look at it: by the carcases of their kings in their high places.

The CARCASES of their ‘kings’?

Yes, they do set up some DEAD MAN’S words above God’s word.  They sink everything of their hope for salvation, spirituality or healing on some DEAD MAN’S words and pretend miracles.  They do not study the Word of God.   They study the word of this CARCASE OF THEIR KING, THIS DEAD MAN.  Even when it clearly goes against the Word of God, they continue to disbelieve the Scripture of God and uphold this dead carcase.  

They do not seek to receive something personal from God, for he is not their god.  This dead carcase is their god.  They are content to listen to the lies of this dead man, over and over and over, never one time desiring to get into the Word of God and study and learn from God.  They see no need for this;  mr so- and -so has already

told them what to believe and they cling to the lies, no matter what God said to the contrary.  So by this, they have angered God and he is going to CONSUME THEM.  THIS WALL between them and God has blinded them and doomed their souls to destruction. 

Jesus said we are all to be ONE BODY. No one is to be above another.  Yet under this system of a church, all facing this one man, giving him all the say;  holding others so low that they dare not even question what this dead carcase says, there can be no unity or equality among the members of the body.  It is all on that one carcase who has set his threshold up instead of God’s threshold.  When you enter, it is SUPPOSED TO BE TO GOD AND GOD ONLY;  NOT TO MR SO-AND-SO.

But no sire.  Let anyone try to correct this horrible error, and OUT  THEY WILL THROW YOU.  God called this WHOREDOM.  You are the whore against God. 

Now you may try to say this is only for the OT people.  Not so.  All of God’s word has spiritual truth for all people of all times.  The spiritual mind can discern this.  The carnal will never understand, for he is tied to mr so-and-so’s hitching post.

Amos 5: 10 

They hate him that rebuketh in the gate,

and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.

11 

Forasmuch therefore as your treading is upon the poor,

and ye take from him burdens of wheat:

ye have built houses of hewn stone,

but ye shall not dwell in them;

You hate anyone who rebukes this gates evil.  You hate those who speak uprightly and not what your dead carcase says.  You take from the poor to build those houses of stone.  God hates this.

God said:

v 21: I hate, I despise your feast days,

and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

Your ‘feast days’ are when you have your get-together, supposedly to feast on the word of God and worship.  But it is a solemn assembly, no joy, no true praising of the true God, so HE hates it; he despises it.  Now these are STRONG WORDS.  YOU BEST HEED THEM.

You get together and SING.   Yet this is what God thinks of it:  verse 23..Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs;

for I will not hear the melody of thy viols.

Again, strong words.  Take this stuff away from me;  I do not want the NOISE OF YOUR SONGS.  Why?  because your heart is on that mr so-and-so.  He has usurped the place of God in your heart.

Amos 6: 8…The Lord God hath sworn by himself,

saith the Lord the God of hosts,

I abhor the excellency of Jacob,

and hate his palaces:

therefore will I deliver up the city with all that is therein.

Palaces to God, is your ‘churches’.  Yes, it is their fancy places of assembly or getting-together to listen to mr so-and-so.  It is not for prayer, or worshipping God or loving every member of this body, and listening to each of them.  It is setting up one man for worship.  Even if that man is dead, he is still the object of their adoration, learning and therefore takes them away from seeking to get something For God for THEMSELVES.  You cannot ride the coat-tail of another into those thresholds of God.  You must come in all by yourself, to God and God only.  Your fancy palace, or church, has taken you away from the true God.  He is not the post you are tied to.  This true God is to be worshipped everywhere and all the time.  it is not in one certain place, or for one certain man.  Jesus said, GO … YE… OUT.. into the highways and hedges and bring them in.  He did not say, let them come to you.  You are to get out to them.

Not what you  see and hear in your palaces, now is it?  Nope.  Just sit down and listen to some tape.  That is all you need.  Just listen to what some man claims he did years ago.  Do not seek the gifts of the Spirit for yourselves.  You are doomed.  listening to the dead…both dead bodily and dead in sins.  Let God actually use a child of God today and you boo him.  how dare you?  You are not a PROPHET.  See, they know not the word of God.  The OT blinds you.

By:  Jo Smith….   July 26, 2015 

Date Posted：10/30/2010 2:27 AMCopy HTMLThis is an answer I wrote just now, to a question on Yahoo, as to how to be born again.
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While some gave the right path to God, none of that is being born again. I know everyone thinks it is. But it is only bringing one into salvation and a right relationship with God. But that is NOT the being born again.
We do become a new creation in Christ Jesus, after we first believe, then repent of sins, obey Acts 2:38 and be filled with the Baptism of the holy Ghost. Without this, one will not be born again.
Now some say that Jesus said believe and you are saved. No he did not say that. Some say that Paul said believe and confess and you are saved. Again, no. He did not say that either.

It is ‘sloppy’ reading. It is adding to God’s word and leaving out important verses.

Shall be, or shalt be, are FUTURE TENSE VERBS. It does NOT say you ARE, (now ) born again or saved. It says SHALL BE —(FUTURE TENSE) saved.

It means there is a strong possibility that this will happen. Look it up. But, there are many other conditions also listed by which we SHALL BE SAVED, NOT JUST BELIEVING.
Jesus said he that believes and is baptized SHALL BE SAVED.
But these believing-only folks LEAVE THAT OUT OR TAKE AWAY FROM GOD’S WORD.
This means that God will take their names out of his book of life.

Oh, I know they will not read this truth and repent of their lies. They love their lies. Keeps them from having to be baptized the Scripture way and be filled with the Holy Ghost, which they hate.

Every time being saved is mentioned in Scripture it uses this FUTURE TENSE verb…shall be.

It does not mean this is a positive thing. It means IF YOU ENDURE TO THE END, YOU SHALL BE SAVED. Same words, again, see? shall be saved….if you endure all the way to your end. Yet they take this away also.

Now here is the being born again, as taught by God:
Hosea 13: 13 The sorrows of a travailing woman shall come upon him: he is an unwise son; for he should not stay long in the place of the breaking forth of children.
14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

Travailing, means giving BIRTH. How does a HIM travail in birth? Everyone who will be born again must give birth…to a manchild of God, just as Jesus did. We must be a virgin to God…with child…of the Holy ghost.
Then …not stay long in the place of the breaking forth of children = being born. (the womb; coming out of the womb.)
What is that place? Next verse….
I will ransom them from the GRAVE. I will redeem them from DEATH.

Jesus was manifested as a son of God by power, by the RESURRECTION. Romans 1:4.
No one is born again until God brings them out of that grave, into a glorified body. That is the New Birth….like it or not.
Everyone still in this earthly life; mortal body; is still subject to sinning and losing their soul.
Not one single scripture says, believe and you have heaven made, no matter what…..

THAT IS A TEACHING OF THE DEVIL. Look how many here preach the message of Satan.
Lets hear them teach Hosea 13.

~~ The Detour ~~

How many ways are there to get to God?  How many Saviors do we have?  How many true Churches are there?  Is this Church the body of Christ?  If so, how does not become part of this one true Church?  How many ways are there into this one body of Christ?

Scripture gives us only one way to become a member of this one true Body of Christ, the Bride of Christ, the one true Church.  Jesus Christ is the one and only way we may come into this body.  But how does this apply to our lives?  That is the big question which needs to be answered.  Any other way is a detour.

Now a natural detour usually bring one back to the desired place;  but a detour which is ‘supposed’ to lead to  the body of Christ leads to destruction.  There is nothing at the end of  the spiritual detour, except the lake of fire.  So why would you decide to take this detour?

God said there is only one way to Him.  Jesus said, strait and narrow is the WAY which leads to life, and FEW there be that find it.  He said wide is the way which leads to destruction and many there be that enter this way.  So then, why is it that few find this way which leads to eternal LIFE?

It is because they listen to false teachers, do not study the Word of God for themselves, and allow false doctrine to blind them and their own pride prevents them from humbling themselves to come to God His chosen way.

So what is God’s one and only chosen path to eternal life?

Acts 2: And when the day of Pentecost was fully come , they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting . 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance .

Now the above shows us the very beginning of the one and only true Church of God.  They were baptized into the body of Christ right here and any others who will be in this true Church will have to come in the very same way.  There is no other way given.

Acts 2: 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do ? 

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent , and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off , even as many as the Lord our God shall call .

 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort , saying , Save yourselves from this untoward generation.

 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized : and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

 43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. 

Now the above is the message which Peter preached, showing the people how to be saved.   Some deceivers will say this is just for the Jews.  But we now know that Jesus joined both Jews and Gentiles into ONE BODY, the new man, The Church of God, thus making peace.  It will never be divided again.

So how did the Gentiles become members of this body of Christ?

Acts 10: 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished , as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 

46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized , which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

So, we see that the Gentiles were brought into the body of Christ EXACTLY the same way the Jews had been.  There is no difference in anyone since the resurrection of Jesus Christ.  We are all ONE IN CHRIST JESUS.

Did Paul agree with this method of salvation?  Of course he did:

Acts 19: And it came to pass , that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 

2 He said unto them , Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed ? And they said unto him , We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized ? And they said , Unto John’s baptism. 

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is , on Christ Jesus.

 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied . 7 And all the men were about twelve.

So here we have proof that Paul taught exactly the same thing which Peter and the rest of that early church believed and lived by.  Now this is the very SAME Paul which said, believe on the Lord Jesus and confess with your mouth, and you SHALL BE saved.  Then IF this is a total and complete plan of salvation, and ALL THAT IS NEEDED, why did this same Paul ask those disciples of John, have you received the Holy Ghost SINCE you believed?

Why didn’t Paul then say, as many false teachers do today, if you believed, you are already saved?  Paul knew his own conversion had included WATER BAPTISM FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS.  

Acts 22: 12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there, 

13 Came unto me, and stood , and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight . And the same hour I looked up upon him. 

14 And he said , The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth. 

15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard . 

16 And now why tarriest thou ? arise , and be baptized , and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. 

So here we see another devout man of God, Ananias, telling Paul to arise and BE BAPTIZED and WASH AWAY THY SINS, calling on the  name of the Lord.  He was baptized in the name of the Lord, for the REMISSION OF SINS.

So then, why would this same Paul later say, all you need to do is just believe and confess with your mouth?  Is this what Paul really said? NO!  It is a total distortion of the Word of God.  Paul said, you SHALL BE saved.  Shall be is still future tense, something you are leading up to.  Every time being saved is mentioned, it is in this FUTURE TENSE.

Believing is only a starting place and very necessary;  BUT it is not the means of salvation.  All of the above is the chosen plan of Salvation and there is no other way taught in the word of God.

So, why is it that today about all one hears is:  just believe and accept the Lord into your heart, and you have heaven made, no matter how much you sin later?  Why is this the main teaching today?  It is a total DETOUR from the method taught by the Apostles of God.

Can they give you one verse which says, accept the Lord into your heart and you are saved?  I know of none.  Will this DETOUR lead you to salvation?  Not for one minute.  This wide road leads to hell fire.  It is not God’s chosen plan of salvation.  The devils also believe in one God and tremble.  Does this save them? Certainly not.  They are still wicked.  So why do the false teachers today, say we are saved, but we are all still sinners?  Is this taught in God’s word?  Not for a minute.  It is a total DETOUR from God’s route to the body of Christ, or heaven.

Where does God’s word say, after you saved, you are still a sinner?  I know of no such Scripture. Where does it say, you will or must still sin?  Didn’t Jesus and his apostles always say, GO AND SIN NO MORE?  Why is this message dropped and this other, STILL SIN, message picked up?  It is a Detour from the Christian life, taught in Scripture.   Will it lead to eternal life?  No.  It is a detour which leads to the second death.

Paul said, by one Spirit are we all baptized into the Body of Christ.  So then this is the same baptism which Peter taught in Acts 2.  It is the same experience which the 120 original members of this  Christ received on the Day of Pentecost.  There is no other taught in the Word of God.  Anything else is a detour leading to destruction.

What is the foundation of building the right Church? 

Mat 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying , Whom do men say that I the Son of man am ? 14 And they said , Some say that thou art John the Baptist : some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am ? 

16 And Simon Peter answered and said , Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou , Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. 

God gave Peter this revelation, that Jesus is the Christ, the Son OF the Living God.  Then Jesus shows that he KNOWS Peter.  Upon this ROCK I will build my Church.  What is this ROCK?  It is the true revelation of who Christ is; you KNOWING him and he knowing you.

So what is this KNOWING? 

ADAM knew his wife, Eve, and she CONCEIVED and bear children.

This ‘knowing’ shows a relationship, which brings forth children.  We all know what this means; the father places a Seed into the Mother, and after she conceives, she bears a son.  This is quite simple, if you know the truth.  We must all bear a son of God.  We must all be a ‘woman with child’ of the Holy Ghost, to become a member of the Christ Church.

Jesus must KNOW us by putting his Holy Seed, the Holy Ghost/word of God, into us.  Then we conceive and bear him a son, the resurrected born-again Child of God, which we bore from our union with Jesus Christ.

So when the false teachers say, all you need do is say you believe, ask forgiveness of sins, go on sinning, confess with your mouth, and you have it.  NO more is needed.  You are headed to eternal life.  You already have eternal life and cannot lose it, so go on sinning, for you are still a sinner.  Jesus did not cleanse you from all sin, for he cannot.  Hear that?  Where did it come from?  Mouth of God or mouth of Satan?  It is the devil’s message.  It will not get you eternal life, for God did not choose this lying doctrine for your salvation.  It is a detour.

So now, let’s look at this from the natural.  This is what God laid on my heart today, to write in this message:

A young couple are in love.  They get married, but know nothing about how to procreate.  So they ask someone, how do you have a child.  Someone tells them, just accept each other into you heart and you will have that child.  No need for anything else.  Just love each other, hug each other good night and a child will be yours.  So they rock on for years, loving each other in the heart, hugging each other at night. Finally someone says, why don’t you have children?  They say, we have a child.  Well, then where is your child.  They hold out empty arms, and say, here is my child.

Yes, people this is what your false teachers have given you, empty arms, spiritually.  They say, you are saved.  You have heaven made. But do you?  Where is your child?  Where is the PROOF that you have a son of God, inside you?  You have not the victory, no faith, no power as was evidenced by that early church, which let Jesus KNOW THEM. 

They received his SPIRIT inside themselves, heard that ‘child’ of God, speaking in tongues, (crying new baby).

They also now manifest the same works that Jesus did, proving they have a son of God inside themselves.  How did this happen? By receiving the Seed of God inside themselves, via the KNOWING experience of the baptism of the holy Ghost.  Without this, you are none of his.  You chose a DETOUR instead of the strait narrow way which God chose for you. 

By: Jo Smith~~ Oct. 2, 2011

Date Posted：12/24/2011 4:56 PMCopy HTMLFreeborn,I just thought I would put this here since I was studying out the name Baalim. And it brought me to this:

Sixty Examples of Doing Evil in God’s Sight

In Judges:

1. Israel (Judg. 2:11); punished (Judg. 2:15)

2. Israel (Judg. 3:7); punished 8 yrs. (Judg. 3:8)

3. Israel again 40 yrs. later (Judg. 3:11-12); punished 18 yrs. (Judg. 3:13-14)

4. Israel after 80 yrs. of peace (Judg. 3:30 — Judg. 4:1); punished 20 yrs. (Judg. 4:2-3,6-7)

5. Israel after 40 more yrs. (Judg. 5:31; 6:1); punished 7 yrs. (Judg. 6:1)

6. Israel after another 40 yrs. of peace (Judg. 8:28-35); punished (Judg. 9)

7. Israel after 48 yrs. (Judg. 10:1-6); punished 18 yrs. (Judg. 10:8)

8. Israel after 31 years (Judg. 12:7 — Judg. 13:1); punished 40 yrs. (Judg. 13:1)

9. Israel after 20 yrs. (Judg. 15:20; 17:6 — Judg. 19:30); punished (Judg. 20:1 — Judg. 21:25)

In 1Samuel:

10. Priests (1Sam. 2:12-25); punished (1Sam. 4:1-18)

11. Israel after 40 yrs. (1Sam. 4:18; 7:6; 8:1-22); punished (1Sam. 8:11-20)

12. Saul and Israel (1Sam. 15); punished (1Sam. 15:26-35; 16:13-23; 19:1-17; 31:1-13)

In 2Samuel:

13. David (2Sam. 11); punished (2Sam. 12:1-23)

14. Ammon (2Sam. 13:1-22); punished (2Sam. 13:23-36)

15. David (2Sam. 14:21-33); punished (2Sam. 15:1-6)

16. Absalom (2Sam. 15:7 — 2Sam. 17:29); punished (2Sam.18)

17. Joab (2Sam. 20:4-12); punished (1Ki. 2:28-34)

18. Sheba (2Sam. 20:1-3); punished (2Sam. 20:13-21)

19. Saul (2Sam. 21:1); punished (2Sam. 21:2-14)

20. David (2Sam. 24:1-9); punished (2Sam. 24:15)

In 1Kings:

21. Solomon (1Ki. 11:1-8); punished (1Ki. 11:9-40)

22. Rehoboam (1Ki. 12:13-15); punished (1Ki. 12:16-24)

23. Jeroboam (1Ki. 12:13-15; 13:33-34); punished (1Ki. 13:1-32; 14:1-18; 15:29-30)

24. Judah (1Ki. 14:21-24); punished (1Ki. 25-30)

25. Abijam (1Ki. 15:1-3); punished (1Ki. 15:7)

26. Judah (1Ki. 15:14); punished (1Ki. 15:16)

27. Nadab (1Ki. 15:26); punished (1Ki. 15:27-28)

28. Baasha (1Ki. 15:34); punished (1Ki. 16:1-7,11)

29. Elah (1Ki. 16:9); punished (1Ki. 16:9-14)

30. Zimri (1Ki. 16:16-19); punished (1Ki. 16:18-19)

31. Omri (1Ki. 16:25-26); punished (1Ki. 16:28)

32. Ahab (1Ki. 16:30-33; 21:1-16); punished (1Ki. 17:1; 21:17-26; 22:29-38)

33. Jezebel (1Ki. 18:4; 21:7-16); punished (2Ki. 9:30-37)

34. Ahaziah (1Ki. 22:51-53); punished (2Ki. 1:16-18)

In 2Kings:

35. Jehoram (2Ki. 3:2-3); punished (2Ki. 9:24)

36. Gahazi (2Ki. 5:20-24); punished (2Ki. 5:27)

37. Jehoram (2Ki. 8:18); punished (2Ki. 8:20-24)

38. Ahaziah (2Ki. 8:25-27); punished (2Ki. 8:28)

39. Jehu (2Ki. 10:31); punished (2Ki. 10:32-36)

40. Athaliah (2Ki. 11:1-3); punished (2Ki. 11:16)

41. Jehoahaz (2Ki. 13:2); punished (2Ki. 13:3-9)

42. Jehoash (2Ki. 13:11); punished (2Ki. 13:12-13)

43. Israel (2Ki. 14:4); punished (2Ki. 14:12)

44. Jeroboam (2Ki. 14:24); punished (2Ki. 14:29)

45. Zechariah (2Ki. 15:9); punished (2Ki. 15:10)

46. Menahem (2Ki. 15:18); punished (2Ki. 15:19-20)

47. Pekahiah (2Ki. 15:24); punished (2Ki. 15:25)

48. Pekah (2Ki. 15:28); punished (2Ki. 15:29-31)

49. Ahaz (2Ki. 15:3-4); punished (2Ki. 16:5-20)

50. Hoshea (2Ki. 17:2); punished (2Ki. 17:3-6)

51. Manasseh (2Ki. 21:2-16); punished (2Chr. 33:1-20)

52. Amon (2Ki. 21:20-22); punished (2Ki. 21:23)

53. Judah (2Ki. 23:26); punished (2Ki. 23:27)

54. Jehoahaz (2Ki. 23:32); punished (2Ki. 23:33)

55. Jehoiakim (2Ki. 23:37); punished (2Ki. 24:1-5)

56. Jehoiachin (2Ki. 24:9); punished (2Ki. 24:12)

57. Zedekiah (2Ki. 24:19); punished (2Ki. 25:7-21)

In Other Books:

58. Israel (Ezra 9:1-3); punished (Ezra 10:1-19; Neh. 13)

59. Pashur (Jer. 20:2); punished (Jer. 20:6)

60. Judah (Mt. 23); punished (Mt. 23:38; 24:2; Lk. 21:20-24)

As you can see, when one does bad in GOD’s sight they are punished by GOD. So all these people that have done bad in GOD’s sight today and thinks they are not going to be punished, are mistaken….

Love

Tweety

Sent by Jesus

Did Jesus, John and others go by the Word which was already written before their time? Sure they did. Here is some proof:

Mt 11:7 And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind?

Mt 11:8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings’ houses.

Mt 11:9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.

Mt 11:10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

There we see that Jesus said, the Word was already written of John, what he was to do. It was written before hand, and Jesus quoted this scripture from Isaiah. He had read this, and knew what it meant. He knew they fulfilled this. So they went back to something written before their time. Scripture evidence!

Here is more:

Mt 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Mt 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

Mt 23:35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

Mt 23:36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

Here Jesus said I send unto you prophets, wise men, and scribes. Those who reject these men whom Jesus sent are the ones he said all the blood of the righteous will come upon. God sent the OT prophets and writers. But here, God has given the kingdom to Jesus to run. So Jesus now sends out HIS wise men, prophets, and SCRIBES. There Scribes were the one to interpret the Word and teach its depth to others. They also recorded the Word. Jesus sent these scribes to the world. Paul was a mighty Scribe of Jesus. If you do not hear him, you do not hear Jesus. Jesus spoke this, not me.

Here is John the Baptist, going back to Scripture written before his time, yet about him. He went back into Written Scripture HE HAD READ, and knew it was of him. Yet some people can find no bible evidence of this. Here it is.

Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Mr 1:2 As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

Mr 1:3 The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

And here is the third witness of this, spoken again by Jesus himself. Both Jesus and John quoted this Scripture from Isaiah, referring to JOHN. Lu 7:24 And when the messengers of John were departed, he began to speak unto the people concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness for to see? A reed shaken with the wind?

Lu 7:25 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? Behold, they which are gorgeously apparelled, and live delicately, are in kings’ courts.

Lu 7:26 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? Yea, I say unto you, and much more than a prophet.

Lu 7:27 This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

Here is a second witness where Jesus himself verified that HE, Jesus, sent the disciples out and woe to those who do not HEAR THEM:

Lu 10:3 Go your ways: behold, I send youforth as lambs among wolves.

Lu 10:10 But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,

Lu 10:11 Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.

Lu 10:12 But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city.

Jesus said it would be more tolerable for Sodom than for those who refuse to HEAR THESE MEN, WHOM JESUS SENT OUT WITH THE WORD.

John 13:18 I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me.

John 13:19 Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he.

John 13:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Notice in the above verses, JESUS again referred to Scripture written long before his time. He said this was done so the Scripture may be fulfilled. Where did he get that? From the Book of Psalms. So he had studied the Written Scriptures which were written by other men, long before his time. He certainly did read what was written before his time, and went right by it. It is no different today. We are to do as he did.

Read this. Paul is giving his own testimony here to the king:

Acts 26:13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.

Ac 26:14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Ac 26:15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesuswhom thou persecutest.

Ac 26:16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;

Ac 26:17 Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Ac 26:19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: Ac 26:20 But showed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.

Ac 26:21 For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me.

Ac 26:22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:

Ac 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should show light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.

Now this proves that Jesus is the one who appeared to Paul and chose him and sent him to the world TO OPEN THEIR EYES, TO TURN THEM FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT, AND FROM THE POWER OF SATAN UNTO GOD.

Paul said this was a HEAVENLY VISION. He obeyed it, even to his death.

Jesus sent Paul.Jesus is the one who said PAUL would open their eyes, and lead them from Satan to God. Jesus gave this power to PAUL. So to reject this is to reject the work and words of JESUS.

Now if this is not enough to convince anyone that Jesus sent Paul to the world, and he sent the other disciples and condemned all who do not hear THEM, You are just a total rebel against truth.

One does not have to reject Jesus or set Paul over Jesus to believe that Jesus sent Paul and Paul’s words are God’s words. Yes, Jesus most certainly did tell us to listen to the men he sent out. He said woe to all who do not hear them.

By: Jo Smith

Physician, heal thyself ~~

Luke 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

Lu 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

Lu 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

Lu 4:20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.

Lu 4:21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. Lu 4:22 And all bare him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, Is not this Joseph’s son?

Lu 4:23 And he said unto them,Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

Lu 4:24 And he said, Verily, I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country. Lu 4:25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;

Lu 4:26 But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow.

Lu 4:27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian.

Lu 4:28And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath,

Lu 4:29 And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong.

Jesus preached in the synagogue and told them, this day is this Scripture fulfilled in your ears. They said , Is not this Joseph’s son? Then he said unto THEM, Yewill surely say unto me, Physician, heal thyself.

Then notice what these same people wanted to do to Jesus. They rose up and thrust him out of the city, and led him to a hill that they might cast him down headlong. They wanted to MURDER JESUS FOR TELLING THEM THE TRUTH. These same people who said to him, heal thyself.

What did this same crowd say to him, as he hung on the cross? He saved others, himself he cannot save. Physician, heal thyself.

Did Jesus ever say these words to anyone? No. It was the people of Satan who said this to Jesus. They persecuted Jesus. He did not persecute them. They wanted to slander and murder Jesus. He did none of these evils to them. It was Jesus to whom this message was sent, heal thyself. You saved others, you cannot save yourself. Lies and slanders is all these wicked people knew. They hated this man for telling them the truth.

A few years ago, I was discussing the Godhead with two Jesus-only preachers. After a while, when they could not prove their ideas or disprove the truth I was showing them, the younger one became very frustrated and hurled this at me: “Who gave you this authority to say these things to us”?

On my way home, all of a sudden, God brought his words back to me and revealed to me that this is exactly what they had hurled at Jesus, when he told them the truth, which they hated. He said to me, they are saying the same thing to you, that was said to Jesus. In other words, he revealed to me that these men had seen the very same authority in me that those others had seen in Jesus. So they said the same words to me, proving that I was speaking in the same truth and authority as Jesus had spoken. God had given me that authority, for truth is authority.

So now. It has happened again. God revealed this to me today. Someone is again hurling the same words at me which were hurled at Jesus by those who hated him and wanted to murder him, “Physician, heal thyself”. It was spoken to no one EXCEPT JESUS.

So I praise my Lord that I am counted worthy to bear the same reproach which was upon Him.

Date Posted：12/11/2012 2:34 AMCopy HTML

1 John 1

 1.  That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
 2.  (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
 3.  That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

What is he speaking of here?  That which was ‘from the beginning’.  This term, from the beginning, has thrown the whole church world into false understanding.  They go back in their minds to the beginning of a creation.  But that is not what is meant.

Learn to ‘READ’ what is really said and not just jump over it.

He said (v2) the life was manifested- so he is speaking of something called life which was manifested to them.   He said, “we SAW this”.  He said we are bearing witness of it.  Jesus told them you shall be witness of me.  Did he mean the mortal man whom Mary gave birth to?  No, he did not mean this.

For it says, …and shew unto you thatETERNAL LIFE, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us.

Now see he is speaking of  ETERNAL LIFE.  A life which was with the Father and then manifested unto us.

So that could only be speaking of one thing ~~~  THE RESURRECTED SON OF GOD, JESUS CHRIST.  To him was given glory, power, and eternal life to see death and corruption no more.

See his first life was mortal, corruptible life; not ETERNAL LIFE.  Else he could never have died.

Do you all realize that if someone can and did die, they had to have been mortal?  See, immortality or eternal life CANNOT DIE;  FOR IF IT DID, THEN IT WAS NOT ETERNAL, IMMORTAL LIFE!

Why are people having such a hard time understanding this simple principle of life?

This is also the BEGINNING spoken of in John 1:14

By: Jo Smith ~~ Sept. 21, 2008