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:64- And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
Here God tells them that he will scatter them among all people. This was during the church age. They fell among all the churches. Here they again worshipped the wood and stone gods of man-made temples. Their fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did not ‘know’ these gods.
:65- And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
He is calling these seven churches the nations now. Here they do not find rest just as their fathers in the OT law did not find rest. Heb. 4 declares that Jesus never gave them rest. So as the church rejected the true Rest of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and refused the speaking in tongues which Isaiah 28 declares is the refreshing and the rest to the soul, they again do not find rest. Jesus said come unto me and I will give you rest to your soul. They refused to come to Jesus. So they never had anything except trembling heart and sorrow.
:66- And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:
Here it tells the condition of the church ‘Israelites’ that they doubt for their eternal life. They never have any true assurance that they have life, so the fear day and night.
:67- In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! And at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! For the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
In the ‘morning’, the time of the birth of the Church at Pentecost, (this is the dawning of the New Day of Grace) they wish it were even, or at the latter part of the OT. But at the even of the Church, the time of the last true Church, the second anointed witness of God; they receive their second judgment and pouring out of the wrath of the Lamb. So they wish now that it was morning and they could start over and find true rest.
:68- And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
This is their final destruction as they have let the ‘ships’ of the ‘church’ take them back into Egypt, or bondage = the law.
Now I will show you the two different covenants in these same Scriptures.
De 5:1- And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. 5:2- The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.5: 3- The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
Here we find that God said this covenant was made with not with their fathers, = Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. It was made with those of them alive that day as Moses spoke to them. This is that covenant given to them in Horeb.
Ge 9:8- And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
: 9- And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
: 10- And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.11- And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
: 12- And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
: 13- I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. 14- And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: 15- And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16- And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
Now this shows that God had established the everlasting Covenant with Noah and every living creature. So what is this everlasting Covenant? It is Grace.
Ge 6:8- But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
So see by grace Noah escaped the judgment of his day. By grace, when Jesus died on the cross he cleansed the whole world; every living creature was now clean.
In Genesis 17 we find that God established the everlasting Covenant with Abraham. But it is not to all the natural seeds of Abraham. Paul bore out that is comes through Isaac into Jesus and then into the true Christians. They are the spiritual seed of Abraham. Paul said if ye be Christ’ then are you Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.
Ge 17:21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
This covenant is grace, not the Law of Moses.
In this chapter we find that God gave them a land for an everlasting possession. So this could not be the natural Canaan. They were driven out of that land and scattered. Paul told us that Abraham counted himself a stranger there and looked for a city with foundations [the apostles] whose builder and maker is God. He looked for a Heavenly City, the New Jerusalem. This is the land he gave the true seed of Abraham, the children of faith, those in grace.
Ex 6:2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD: 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. -: 4 And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers. : 5 And I have also heard the groaning of the children of Israel, whom the Egyptians keep in bondage; and I have remembered my covenant.
Here God told Moses that he had established his covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. So this has to be speaking of the everlasting covenant, Grace. These are the children of Israel with whom God established his promises. This is the true Christians, the seed of Christ. God remembered this Grace covenant and saved this nation because the true seed of Christ was inside this law nation. The Egyptians keeping them in bondage speaks of the law children.
Ex 6:6 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments: 7 And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians. : 8 And I will bring you in unto the land, concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob; and I will give it you for an heritage: I am the LORD. : 9 And Moses spake so unto the children of Israel: but they hearkened not unto Moses for anguish of spirit, and for cruel bondage.
Here Moses told them God would deliver them from the ‘bondage’ = law. But He was speaking to the spiritual seed within that nation (see my message Two nations in one). See then that the bondage or law children did not hear for anguish of spirit and cruel bondage. The true seed hears this deliverance message. He promised to bring them [the promised seed, the Christians] into the land he swore to give to Abraham, which is the New Jerusalem. They entered this promised ‘land’ on the Day of Pentecost, when God’s own Holy Spirit took up residence inside them. Glory! But there is more to come to those who overcome the mixed spirit within the seven churches. This is the final and true heritage of the true Children of Christ = the glorified body at our resurrection. This is to be our true inherited LAND.
I know this is a very long message, and I had thought to place this next part into a separate message because of the length. But I think it best to just go ahead with this. It is just too important to teaching this message of the two covenants. I wish I had the means to put this message into booklet form. It will be long enough for this and should be distributed to many people. But I do not have the means to do such a thing. May God provide for this if it is His Will.
Le 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
This is a positive statement saying that the true children of faith will not set up and serve any idols. The main identification of those under law is that they serve idols. All of your holidays are idols. Your manmade buildings, which you dote so much on, are idols. There are many in most people’s lives. But the true children of God will worship Him and Him only. No idols.
:2 Ye shall keep my Sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. :3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; :4 Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. :5 And your threshing shall reach unto the vintage, and the vintage shall reach unto the sowing time: and ye shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely.
The above speaks of both the New Covenant and the Reign of peace of earth.
:6 And I will give peace in the land, and ye shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid: and I will rid evil beasts out of the land, neither shall the sword go through your land. : 7 And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. : 8 And five of you shall chase an hundred, and an hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword. : 9 For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.
This speaks of the true ministers chasing their enemies, those of law and causing them to fall by the sword of the Word and thus bringing them into Grace and life. These are the ones he establishes his everlasting covenant with.
:11 And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you. : 12 And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people. : 13 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright.
Here he speaks of Jesus, his tabernacle. Those who follow him, He will not hate. This is the people of Grace. He walks among us and is our God and we are his true people. He brought us out of bondage = the law. He broke every yoke off his true people. He set both the sons and the daughters free. The above is to the obedient people of grace. The next verses speak to the disobedient ones who cling to law and break his everlasting covenant of grace.
:14 But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments; 15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: 16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. : 17 And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.
Here God speaks to those who did not hear his true judgments and obey his grace covenant but went back to law. They will be slain before the NT Ministers and be ruled over by them.
:18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven (seals) times more for your sins. : 19 And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron and your earth as brass: 20 And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits. : 21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues (trumpets) upon you according to your sins.22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.
In the above verses God starts the judgments against the OT people who clung to law and refused Pentecost. These are the seven seals in Revelation. These foolish virgins, the false church, clinging to law will yield no fruit for all their labour. They do the works of men, not of God. They build programs and buildings instead of teaching the Word and converting souls to righteousness. So the plagues of Rev. comes upon them. This happens first at the close of the OT. It will repeat at the close of the church.
:23 And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me; 24 Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins.
Yet repented they not of their sins, so God Brings the seven vials upon them.
:25 And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy.
This is where God avenges those who reject the grace covenant or the blood of Jesus and his mercy. He sends the Sword of the Word upon them and they are delivered into the hand of their enemy, the NT.
:26 And when I have broken the staff of your bread, ten women shall bake your bread in one oven, and they shall deliver you your bread again by weight: and ye shall eat, and not be satisfied.
This is wonderful. The first time I read this and saw what it was saying, I laughed so much I almost fell off my bed.
This is saying that after God has broken the staff of the OT or law bread, that now the ten virgins, the five wise and the five foolish, which is the NT Church, shall now prepare their food for them. Now they cannot eat of the Law of Moses; they must eat of the words of the Apostles.
But since part of the church departs from the truth and walks again after the law, then they became the foolish churches. Thus they are never truly satisfied with this NT Bread. The one oven is the NT. They must feed from the NT teachings. Funny how they thought women could not teach and God makes them eat from these ten women!
:27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; 28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
Here God becomes furious at those who refuse to walk according to the NT teachings. He again chastises them seven times.
:29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. : 30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you. 31 And I will make your
Choose Blessings or Cursings
From: joie (Original Message)Sent: 2/14/2004 7:16 PM
~~ Choose, Blessings or Cursing ~~
Today is Friday, Feb. 13, 2004. It is now 5:13AM. May God place His divine presence and power upon this message.
I will start this message in Deuteronomy 28. God is speaking here of the two covenants, law and grace. The more I learn the Word of God the more I see everything in the Book is about these two covenants. They are opposites. One is light, life and power. The other (law) is darkness, death and weak. God set these two covenants before Adam and commanded him not to partake or eat of the law ‘tree’. He said the day you eat of law, that day you will die. Now I know He said the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. But Scripture has to interpret Scripture. Paul said by the law is the KNOWLEDGE of Sin.
So don’t you see by this that he identified that tree as the law?
There are people who teach that sex was this tree; that Eve committed adultery with an animal called the serpent. No Scripture in the entire Book says this. So that is a lie. Nowhere does the Word say by sex or adultery is the knowledge of sin, or good and evil. The entire Scripture teaches that the law is death. We know that the law teaches what is good and evil. The Word said by the law shall no flesh be justified. If you go back to law, you fall from Grace. For by Grace are you saved. No one will ever be saved apart from the Grace of God. Grace is not in that law. The law demands that every disobedience be punished. No forgiveness. No Love, no mercy. No life. Choose this day life or death. Choose whether you will try to serve God by law or will you accept Grace?
Adam had a choice to either stay in Grace where God had placed him, or to go under the law. I will show you here in Isa. 66 what Adam’s sin was:
Isa 66:3 -He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog’s neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine’s blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. :4 -I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them;
This verse shows that because of this sacrificing of animals, God will choose delusions for them and bring their fears upon them. They feared death. It also shows that offering the blood of an ox or lamb, the OT sacrifices, is BLESSING AN IDOL. It was never of God! See that God said men chose this as their own way. Their soul delighted in these abominations of killing, eating, and offering the blood of lambs to God! Shocking, isn’t it? Men chose this killing of animals (Adam) – not God!
Isa 66:17 -They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
Now don’t you see that this is speaking of that tree in the midst of the garden? And that they were trying to sanctify themselves? This was trying to serve God by law. See they killed a pig and ate it; thus starting the animal sacrifices which God never had any pleasure in. This brought death. As they killed this animal and ate its flesh, they also brought death into themselves. They were eating swine’s flesh and the abomination, which was the law. So He said they shall be consumed together, all who do this.
I had not intended to write any of that in this message, but it was placed on my heart, so I do what God tells me to do. I prayed for his leadership and anointing before starting this message. So I know he placed that here. You need to fully understand what law is and how it came into being among men, for that is what this message is about. I know this will be long, but I have learned that is how I like them.
God’s way has never been law. He said they chose their own way and this way leads to death. No one has ever been placed under the law by God. They chose this way for themselves. The Israelites always had a choice of either Grace or law. They were not forced to be under the law. Read my message on the two edged sword. This proves it. The stones Moses had had both the law and grace written upon it. One was on the front side and the other on the backside. The Word of God has both law and grace in it. You may choose either one. But if you choose law, you are choosing death.
If you think you HAVE to tithe, go to church, keep a weekly Sabbath or any of these other things, you have gone to law and there is no life there.
We live a Holy Life by His Spirit, which He has placed in us at the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. We do not become holy by doing things of the law. It becomes our nature of loving righteousness and hating iniquity by His Spirit within us. This is the only way of life.
God made a covenant with Noah to never destroy all flesh with a flood again. Noah had found grace in the eyes of the Lord and was spared this destruction. His family was the only ones saved. This is the grace covenant. Later God gave this grace covenant to Abraham. This was 400 years before He gave the law covenant to Moses. But what I have never heard anyone else teach is that at the same time God also wrote the Grace covenant on the backside of those stones. So they could choose either Grace or Law. Moses chose Grace. He had also found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
The fact that Moses was under grace while administering law to the nation proves that they also could have had grace. But what caused them to be under the law? Worshipping idols. The worship of idols is the separating place between the ones who are saved or under grace and the ones who are under law and lost.
If you worship or honour even one idol this takes you away from the one and only true God. He said you should worship him and him only. Else you are lost, worshipping idols. If you observe x-mas, Easter, Santa Clause, or any other such thing, this is the worship of idols and places you under the law covenant. You must be under either law or grace. There are no in-between grounds. You either worship idols or worship God and Him only.
All of the curses in the Book are under the law. All of the blessings are under the Grace Covenant. So if you go by law and worship an idol you chose the curses. If you reject all idols, such as the holidays, and live by Grace, then you chose the blessings and eternal life.
Now what is hard to see is that both covenants are being spoken of all through the entire Scriptures, from Genesis through Revelation. I will show you how to separate this in this message.
If you will read Deut. 27 and 28 you will see all the curses and the blessings pronounced by God. I have too much else to go into this message to type that here. But you really need to read this to fully understand this message. If you go under the law you absolutely must obey it every bit. No one has ever been able to do that except Jesus. So do not make the mistake of thinking you can. It will only bring the curses and death.
ONLY the blood of Jesus Christ and receiving His Spirit sanctifies us. If you go by law you place yourself under the blood of animals by which can never be forgiveness of sins. This gives you eternal death. If you worship even one idol you will be lost.
De 28:14 -And thou shalt not go aside from any of the words which I command thee this day, to the right hand, or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them. :15- But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
So see from this Scripture that if you go aside to even one idol all the curses will overtake you. So why will you die? Choose life, choose Grace.
De 28:25 -The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
This verse shows that at the close of the OT, after Jesus had pronounced them desolate, they were removed into all the ‘kingdoms’ of the earth via the seven churches. That is the kingdoms they were removed into. The seven churches are old Jerusalem in disguise. Among them is some wheat growing until the end of the world.
Verse 26: Their Carcasses (the law) shall be meat or eaten by the fowls of the air (Satan’s kingdom, and the beasts of the earth, Satan’s people.)
De 28:29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.
This verse shows that those who cling to law after Jesus will be blind at noonday or in grace. They cannot see the good of Grace so they will never be saved.
De 28:30- Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.
This is speaking of the law betrothing a wife (the Bride) yet Jesus, Grace, is the one who actually did take her and bring forth children together. The law or house of Moses was not dwelt in, for it perished. They planted a vineyard or nation for God yet it never did produce the harvest. It perished.
Ro 7:4 -Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
:5 -For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
:6 -But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
:7- What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
:8 -But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. :9 -For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Now this shows that we must be dead to the law by the body of Christ in order to be married to him.
Notice that verse 5 says that the motions of sins were by the law. This proves that the law was that tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Verse 6 proves that the law is now dead and we should serve in the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter which is that dead law.
Verse 7 proves that without law we will not know sin, proving the law gives us the knowledge of sin or evil.
Verse 8 proves that sin was dead without the law. So law is what brought them into sin.
Verse 9 proves that without the law we were alive or had life. But the commandment brought sin and we died.
So see then how important it is to see and understand the difference in law and grace and to choose grace. If you choose law, you are in sin and dead. You can never be married to Christ so long as you partake of or eat of the law tree.
De 28:31- Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.
This verse is marvelous in the revelation of it. Thine ‘OX’ shall be slain before thine eyes? What was their ‘OX’? The slain Lamb of God, Jesus Christ. Yes this shows that Jesus was slain right before their eyes and they could not eat of it or receive the benefits. They clung to law and could not eat of that tree of life. Their ass and sheep (the daily sacrifice of their animal sacrifices) was taken away (by the crucifixion of Jesus) before their face and the daily sacrifice was never restored to them to bring them before God.
Their ‘sheep’ (Jesus) was given to their enemies, the Grace People.
De 28:32 -Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the daylong: and there shall be no might in thine hand.
This says that their sons and daughters, those prophesied of in Joel 2, the Pentecostal fathers, were given unto another people, the Gentiles or the ones who came into Grace or the true Church. There was no might or power in the hand of those who clung to law to get their children back.
De 28:33- The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:
Their fruit was bringing forth Jesus and his disciples. This went to the nation of Grace or the true Church and they were oppressed and crushed always.
De 28:34 -So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
This shows how they were incensed against the Christians and went to persecute them and destroy them.
De 28:35 -The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.
Read Isa. One in connection with this verse. Isa 1:4 -Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, and they are gone away backward. :5- Why should ye be stricken any more? Ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. :6- From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment :7- Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
Verse 4 speaks of the condition of old Israel and of the church turned ‘backwards’ to law. It is both history and prophecy. Verses 5 and 6 show that they were the ones spoken of in Deut. that they were smitten from the head to the foot with wounds and sores.
Verse 7 shows their country (law) is desolate. This is spoken of as Jesus said to Jerusalem, behold your country is left unto you DESOLATE. It is both history and prophecy of the final state of the apostate church.
De 28:36- The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
This verse proves that the entire nation of old Israel, along with this prophecy here of their setting up a king to rule over them, shall be brought unto another nation, that of the NT Church. There they began again their idol worship of other gods, of wood and stone, their church buildings. They always gloried in their big, fancy buildings. See Matt. 24. Even the disciples at that time were still glorying in their fancy buildings. But Jesus showed what he thought of them by saying not one ‘stone’ will be left upon another which shall not be thrown down. This speaks of that law and also every other stronghold of that OT.
De 28:38 -Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.
This speaks of their much preaching in the nations into which they have been carried = the many different churches. They sowed much seed but gathered in little. They produced only a few who found the way to eternal life. The locust, the witnesses of Revelation, consumed the most of their seed.
De 28:39 -Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.
These ‘churches’ of law planted vineyards and took care of them (their church members) but did not produce any real wine (Holy Ghost) nor gather the grapes for the ‘worms’ ate them. These worms are described in Joel one. This was the ministers of the Babylon Church, the whore. These ministers, with their lies, prevented this church from producing a true manchild.
De 28:40 -Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.
They had many churches (olive trees) but could not receive the oil or Holy Ghost, for their olive, the whore church cast his fruit. They deceived the people and therefore could never receive the real anointing.
De 28:41- Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.
Both that law and the whore church (same thing) beget sons and daughters, but each time a true child of God was born there, they could not enjoy them, for they went into captivity to the true Church, the Spirit of God. This also speaks of those early Apostolic Fathers, who were the ‘children’ of that law nation.
De 28:42 -All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.
This is speaking of the locust of Rev. 9, the judgment ministers of God, who consumed the fruit and trees of the land of law.
De 28:43- The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. :44- He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.
The ‘stranger’ means the Christians. They were the stranger and pilgrims in this earth. They were strangers to that law nation. They were lifted up very high above that law group. We were made the head and them the tail.
This was part of the curse pronounced by God to those who rejected his true covenant, Grace.
De 28:45- Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:
46 -And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
47 -Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;
48- Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.
This shows that because they clung to law all the curses came upon them for a sign and wonder to their children (law folks) forever. Because they did not serve the Lord with joyfulness, but went aside to idols, they now have to serve the enemies, the Christians, but they are in hunger and thirst and in nakedness and in need of all things because no life was in that law covenant. This stranger, their enemies, the Christians, put a yoke of iron (that iron rule in Rev.) on them and destroyed them. This was done by Jesus and then followed by the Apostles and Christians.
Compare this with the description of the last church — naked, blind and in need of all things, thinking they have need of nothing.
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Part 2:
From: joie
Sent: 2/14/2004 7:18 PM
De 28:49- The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
A nation from far is the NT Church. They were the ones far off from law. They are shown to have the eagle wings. This tongue they could not understand is the utterance the Holy Ghost does through one when He fills them with the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Let those of you who claim that it is not the evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost see that it is very prominent throughout the entire Word of God. Now I know that people can ‘speak’ in some kind of stuff and it NOT be the true tongues of the Holy Ghost; but this does not do away with the fact that the Holy Ghost absolutely WILL speak or utter himself, in the unknown tongue of God, when he takes up his abode inside someone.
De 28:50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favour to the young:
Now I know it seems contrary to what everyone believes, but this nation of fierce countenance is the Christians. Yes. They do not regard the person of the old, (that old covenant; or show favour to the young (the seven mixed churches of Babylon.) We do not show partiality either, for that is sin. Equality is the heart of true Christianity.
I will show in another message, hopefully following this one, in Daniel that the king of ‘fierce countenance’ was Jesus and his Apostles. Mainly it was Jesus. He was the one with the ‘dark sayings of old’. This was in his parables. But this will be too much for one message, but for now study this with the idea that this fierce nation is the Christians. I will prove it in the next message.
This message should also be studied in connection with my message on the Two Nations in One and the Two edged Sword. They all go together and explain each other. Also it will need the next one on Daniel 11.
De 28:51 -And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.
:52 -And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
This shows Jesus taking of their fruit and bringing them into Grace. He left them neither Holy Ghost life nor the ability to increase through their animal sacrifices and thus he destroyed them.
Now I will list from the Book of Lamentations, all these ‘gates’ and high and fenced walls they trusted in. Jesus besieged them until they were all destroyed.
La 2:1-How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the day of his anger!
‘Heaven’ means the ones God is dealing with, his anointed ones. So here we see that God was angry with old Israel and cast them down to ‘earth’. In other words, he cast them away from him and divorced them. Now they are the ‘earth’ group. He is no longer dealing with the law people.
La 2:2-The Lord hath swallowed up all the habitations of Jacob, and hath not pitied: he hath thrown down in his wrath the strong holds of the daughter of Judah; he hath brought them down to the ground: he hath polluted the kingdom and the princes thereof.
The Lord destroyed the place of Jacob with no pity. He is now set to do this same thing to them again, as mystery Babylon, the false church. See here that it bears out what was just said in Deut, that he destroyed her strong holds. When He brings one down to the ground, means he no longer deals with them. They are cast away from him. He polluted that whole kingdom of Satan, or the law. Now watch the list of her gates and high walls, her strong holds:
1. The princes.
:3-He hath cut off in his fierce anger all the horn of Israel: he hath drawn back his right hand from before the enemy, and he burned against Jacob like a flaming fire, which devoureth round about. :4-He hath bent his bow like an enemy: he stood with his right hand as an adversary, and slew all that were pleasant to the eye in the tabernacle of the daughter of Zion: he poured out his fury like fire.
He cut off in his anger everything of the power of Israel. His right hand is Jesus. Jesus destroyed that law nation. He became their enemy. He was their adversary.
Now, I want you to know that everything he did to them he also is going to do to the false church, for they are the same. That is why it is said they will be destroyed both root and branch; twice dead; plucked up by their roots, that law.
La 2:5-The Lord was as an enemy: he hath swallowed up Israel, he hath swallowed up all her palaces: he hath destroyed his strong holds, and hath increased in the daughter of Judah mourning and lamentation.
The Lord was their enemy. In this verse we have the second stronghold he destroyed = their ‘PALACES’. This is their fancy temples they doted so much on. Take warning, churches. It also applies to you and your fancy buildings. He will bring this about the second time and destroy you and your big church buildings you set above God. They are an ‘idol’ to you.
:6 And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.
Here we have # 3. His tabernacle. He took this away. He destroyed these places of ‘assembly’. So this shows what he thinks of you saying we must ‘assembly’ into a certain building, when Jesus said we shall not worship that way, but in Spirit and in Truth.
Next–#4. The solemn feasts and #5. Their old Sabbaths. Go back to Isa. One, you will see that he had come to despise these things. It is the same in the ‘church’ today. He despises your solemn get-togethers. No Spirit, no life. There is no power in your churches today to be a ‘WITNESS’ of God. How are you manifesting God to this world?
Next is # 6–their king
#7–their priests.
:7-The Lord hath cast off his altar, he hath abhorred his sanctuary, he hath given up into the hand of the enemy the walls of her palaces; they have made a noise in the house of the LORD, as in the day of a solemn feast. :8-The LORD hath purposed to destroy the wall of the daughter of Zion: he hath stretched out a line, he hath not withdrawn his hand from destroying: therefore he made the rampart and the wall to lament; they languished together.
#8–He cast off his altar and hated his #9–sanctuary He destroyed her entire wall which means everything she was made up of.
:9-Her gates are sunk into the ground; he hath destroyed and broken her bars: her king and her princes are among the Gentiles: the law is no more; her prophets also find no vision from the LORD.
Her ‘gates’ means all of these means of the OT being a way to God, her ‘everything’. These all sunk into the ground. Read Isa. 47 where he tells ‘Babylon’ to come down and sit in the dust. That is what this is speaking of, proving that the whore church is the same as old law nation. He destroyed all her gates and her bars.
#9– He brought down her king.
#10–He did away with her LAW. It is no more.
#11– Her (OT) prophets are also cut off from the Lord. — People today have tried to do away with this decree of God to destroy the OT Prophets and claim that we had an OT Prophet in our day. It is impossible. The last of these was John the Baptist. The Law and the Prophets were UNTIL John. This means that after John there will NEVER be another one. God cut them off and put them into darkness forever.
:10-The elders of the daughter of Zion sit upon the ground, and keep silence
: they have cast up dust upon their heads; they have girded themselves with sackcloth: the virgins of Jerusalem hang down their heads to the ground.
Now I must bring in this one for it shows what God showed me, that it was only the daughters of law who had to keep SILENCE. This proves it right here. It truly means that no one of the law covenant (men or women; for they are one) can speak now. It is only those of us in true Grace (men or women; for we are one) have permission from God to preach and teach His Word. We are the only ones who know the truth. The law blinds one.
De 28:53-And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:
This shows that the ones from the OT who now come to God must ‘eat’ the ‘flesh’ or word of their sons and daughters. This also proves that the daughters of the NT were giving out this heavenly bread, their flesh. It is not speaking of the human bodies. It means the word they taught, the grace message. These are the people who laid siege on that old covenant and distressed them. They put away the OT teachings of law.
:54-So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave. :55-So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates.
:56-The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,
:57-And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.
Strange as it seems, these verses, 54-57, are speaking of those from the OT who had a ‘tender’ heart and not a hard heart of stone, in other words, the law. That law gave people a stony heart. It hardened them. It still does. So they ‘ate’ the ‘flesh’ [spiritual food] of their Pentecostal children which they ‘birthed’. These NT converts came out of that old nation of Israel. So they were their children. In the spiritual straitness or starvation left in the OT, they ate the food of the NT ministers and could not give it to those whom they ‘left’, or the ones who clung to that law.
:58- If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; :59- Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. :60- Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.
:61- Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. :62- And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. :63- And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.¨C11C¨C12C¨C13C
The Rock
The New Testament way of serving God is also wrote on the stone and that stone being Jesus Christ. And have ye not read this scripture; The stonewhich the builders rejected is become the head of the corner: Jesus Christ is that stone with the builders rejected and has become the head of thecorner. Is this not the same thing that happened when Moses break the stone and cast it to the ground? Was this not showing the same thing? And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chiefcornerstone; This is the foundation that is laid that no other can lay. THE FOUNDATION IS ALREADY LAID. This is a house that is built on a solid stone.The apostles and the prophets BUILT this foundation on Jesus Christ the chief corner stone. To reject the teachings of the apostles is to reject that The chief corner stone, Jesus Christ. We must not only believe this great apostolic message, but we also must obey this message that the apostles taught. If not we might as well do as Moses. We just as well cast Jesus Christ that stone to the ground if we do not believe what was taught by the apostles. We must obey what they taught. Obedience is better than sacrifice. If you are not obeying anything that the apostles taught, again let me say you are casting that chief cornerstone (Jesus Christ) to the ground just as Moses when he came down from off the mountain. We must not only obey this but we must defend and guard it against all distortion or altercation. The apostles original revelation as found in the New Testament can never be may void by later revelation. And believe me there are some out there that would try to draw you from that rock.They will come at you saying that you don’t have to be baptized in the name of Jesus, or that you don’t have to Receive the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues as the spirit gives the utterance. They will tell you anything. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. We must stand on the solid rock Jesus Christ and be able to destroy these false teachings. We are not on miry clay of sinking sand. Neither have we cast the stone to the ground as was done by Moses the first time around. We are on the second stone that was hewn out and was and never be cast to the ground. We are on the rock that followed the Israelites in the wilderness. That rock was Jesus Christ. We are drinking from that spiritual rock, not the one that was cast to the ground because that was fleshly, we are drinking from the spiritual cup that will never run dry or be cast to the ground. We are just like a wise man which built his house upon a rock: We are on the same rock that Peter was on. I say we, the ones that say that Jesus Christ was the son of the living God. If you are not on that rock, you are on the rock that was cast to the ground. If you say that Jesus was God you are also on the wrong rock. That is the rock that was cast to the ground. Those things that was going on with the Israelites were written for our admonition that we are not to fall for the rock that was cast to the ground, but we are to stand on the solid foundation the true Rock which is grace by Jesus Christ.
Romans 7
Romans 7
1. Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2. For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3. So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4. Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5. For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6. But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
I feel led of God to do a study on each verse of Romans 7. This chapter is one of the most mis-understood passages of Scripture if all the Book.
1. Paul says here that he is speaking to them that know the law. It is about those under the law. He said that law has dominion, or control over a man as long as he lives. So this would appear, at first to mean that there could never be any deliverance from that law; for it would be in force over the man until the man died.
Now for sure, this is how the majority of people still believe about it. But watch how Paul shows the way to become FREE FROM THE DOMINION OF LAW.
v2–He likens this relationship between men and the law to the marriage of a woman and man. He said if the husband (the one with the dominion, or rulership, or control) be dead, the woman is then free from the law, free to marry another.
v3–shows she would be an adultress to marry another WHILE her first husband lives.
v4–This is very important.
You are become DEAD to the law —
how?
By the body of Christ.
What for?
So we can be married to another (other than the law)– married to Jesus.
By this marriage, or union to Jesus, we can now bear fruit to God. (Not while we were married to law).
Now get this! It is very important to see this, to set you free from that law.
You CANNOT BE MARRIED TO JESUS CHIRST SO LONG AS YOU LIVE BY LAW. YOU ARE THEREFORE MARRIED TO THAT LAW, AND YOU WOULD BE A SPIRITUAL ADULTRESS TO TRY TO MARRY CHRIST WITHOUT FIRST LETTING THAT LAW BE DEAD TO YOU.
That is very clearly taught right here, Paul’s words, God’s Words; not mine.
If you try to be married to Jesus yet still married, or alive to law, then you are in sin = adultry.
That law (or first husband) has to be DEAD to you, BEFORE you can go marry Jesus.
That is why Paul said if you go back to law, Christ is of no effect to you. You cannot be married, or joined to Chirst and law at the same time; for that is two husbands.
In Hebrews, Paul said Moses was a servant over his own house, or body.
Jesus is a son over his own house, or body, which is the true Church.
You cannot be part of both. One must die so the other can live and be your husband.
v5–shows that the motions of sin worked by the law and this brought forth DEATH. (he is speaking of to those under law – they are dead).
v6– (very important verse)–Now we are DELIVERED from the law.
Read that again, NOW WE ARE DELIVERED FROM THE LAW,
THAT BEING DEAD (see, here he showed the death of that first husband, = law)– it is saying the law is DEAD, that being DEAD wherein we were held (held by law)
The purpose of this death of law, and our deliverance from it —- that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness (that which waxeth OLD is ready to VANISH AWAY)–
of the LETTER. Now this proves the LETTER is that old, dead law.
So, these verses clearly PROVE that one must be dead to the law, the law dead to you BEFORE you can marry Chirst.
You are still part of that old body of Moses until that law is dead to you and you are delivered from it.
Jo
Some Things God Hates
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Some things God hates
Aug 29, ’06 10:04 PM
by freeborn22 for everyone
From: Freeborn22 (Original Message)
Sent: 6/29/2006 4:52 PM
~ Some things God hates ~ By: Jo Smith — 6-20-06
Does God love your ‘church’ buildings? Did He ever ask for such? Did He ask David or Solomon to build Him a house? Does God love the Old Covenant? Did He set this up? Did God love their old feasts? Did He ask them to kill animals in sacrifice? Did He love their Sabbaths? Did He set up the priests and prophets to rule over others? Was the Old Testament Covenant of God?
All of these are questions which you need the true answers. Have any of your ‘leaders’ taken the time to study and learn and teach you these important issues? Have you studied to learn this truth?
2Cor 3:7 But if the ministration of death,written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
Now study the above verse. That law which Moses ministered was DEATH. Did God give them death? Was it His choice? Do you really think so? Was not Adam commanded by God NOT to eat of that tree of death? Sure he was. So then, who was it that opened up this ‘tree of death’? It was clearly, ADAM. God had said the day you eat of that tree, you will DIE. So this tree of the knowledge of good and evil brought them death. It was that LAW. By the LAW is the KNOWLEDGE of sin. (evil).
See that God said the ministration which Moses ministered, written on stones (that law) was DEATH. So this very clearly and without any doubt proves that the law of Moses was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Now we know the Word says that God came down and wrote on those stones. But does this mean it was God’s chosen way? No! God had FORBIDDEN this. He had commanded Adam NOT to ‘eat’ or partake of this death tree. The majority of people on down through the ages, since that time, have also chosen law over grace. They chose death instead of life. All who refuse the NT salvation, taught in the Book of Acts, are still choosing death instead of life. This is the vast majority of people.
So then, why did God give that law to Moses? It was imposed upon them, because of their sins in choosing law instead of Grace. Since man chose the law, God gave it to them and showed all peoples of all ages, the dire consequences of eating of this tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the LAW. If you choose law, you are choosing death, eternal death.
So now, in order to show what things are of God, life, and what things are of Satan, death, we must find in the Word, the things which God either loves or hates. We will explore some of these things in this message Keep in mind, that if God did away with a thing, He never did love it or call for it. All things which are truly of God will remain eternally, for God is eternal, and all things which are of God are eternal.
Will that law of Moses remain eternally? No!
2Cor 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ. 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away.
See that Scriptures says that the end of that law of Moses was to be ABOLISHED. This means done away with. It also shows that this law blinded people, even when they ‘read’ it today.
Now, loads of people dote so much on the old Jewish feasts. They think this is the height of the things from God. But is this so? Let the Word show us.
Amos 5:21 – I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.
Am 5:22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts.
Am 5:23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols.
Now that is strong words. God said I HATE AND DESPISE YOUR FEAST DAYS. Then He made it clear that he does not want their animal sacrifices. But then, he points out that he does not want their songs or music either! Does this pertain to all times? Of course it does. God does NOT CHANGE. If He ever hated these things, he has always hated them and will always hate them. If God hates these things, then it is proof that He never at any time called for them. Is there proof that HE never required these things? Yes! Now I will prove right here that folks hate those of us who speak these truths and rebuke all this evil. God said this:
Amos 5:10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly. Am 5:11 Forasmuch therefore as your treading is upon the poor, and ye take from him burdens of wheat: ye have built houses of hewn stone, but ye shall not dwell in them; ye have planted pleasant vineyards, but ye shall not drink wine of them.
Those houses of hewn stone refers to their church buildings. It is not referring to their own homes. God would not be against their having homes of stone. They did not take from the poor to build their own homes. It was deceiving the poor into thinking it is doing God a service to build up those fancy ‘worship’ building, which God calls PALACES. I will prove that God hates those PALACES.
Amos 6:3 Ye that put far away the evil day, and cause the seat of violence to come near; Am 6:4 That lie upon beds of ivory, and stretch themselves upon their couches, and eat the lambs out of the flock, and the calves out of the midst of the stall;
Am 6:5 That chant to the sound of the viol, and invent to themselves instruments of music, like David;
Am 6:6 That drink wine in bowls, and anoint themselves with the chief ointments: but they are not grieved for the affliction of Joseph.
Am 6:7 Therefore now shall they go captive with the first that go captive, and the banquet of them that stretched themselves shall be removed.
Am 6:8 The Lord GOD hath sworn by himself, saith the LORD the God of hosts, I abhor the excellency of Jacob, and hate his palaces: therefore will I deliver up the city with all that is therein.
Now the above Scripture proves that God hated their music, their singing, and their PALACES. God said he abhorred or hated the excellency of Jacob. See, almost everyone thinks God loved those things. But this says that God hated them. He identified right here, those priests eating the animal sacrifices. It also types the modern-day preachers who take from the poor to build up their fancy palaces, churches. These poor Christians are the true ‘sheep’, and those preachers are ‘preying’ off these sheep for their own benefit. God HATES this.
Ps 78:69 And he built his sanctuary like high PALACES, like the earth which he hath established for ever.
This shows that God likens his sanctuary to PALACES.
Isa 23:13 Behold the land of the Chaldeans; this people was not, till the Assyrian founded it for them that dwell in the wilderness: they set up the towers thereof, they raised up the PALACES thereof; and he brought it to ruin.The ‘Assyrian’ types or shows Satan, or Adam. So this shows that Adam set up these PALACES for his own benefit. Satan is the god of the palaces, or church buildings. God hates them.
Isa 34:13 And thorns shall come up in her PALACES, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.
Jer 6:5 Arise, and let us go by night, and let us destroy her PALACES.
Thorns, nettles and brambles are the law. See the command in Jer. 6:5, to God’s army, to go up by night and destroy her palaces.
Sin Was By The Law
Can you read? This verse said these sins bringing forth the fruit unto death WAS BY THE LAW. THE LAW IS THE ONLY WAY THERE IS SIN IN US. WHERE THERE IS NO LAW, THERE IS NO SIN.
SIN WAS BY THE LAW.
How in this world can millions of people swallow such a lie that we are to obey ONLY those 10 commandments of God and not all the rest of God’s Commandments? How?
Why do you feel you can disobey God’s Commandment to be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and then (still a command) be baptized with the Holy ghost as those 120 did on the day of Pentecost?
how are you delivered from that law if you are still BOUND TO KEEP IT? FOOLISHNESS IS WHAT THIS IS.
The Law is not of faith. Without Faith it is impossible to please God. In other words, by the law it is impossible to please God. You fall from Grace. So go right ahead. Enough truth has been printed in this group to convert the whole world IF THEY DESIRED TRUTH.
It is proven you want no truth if it crosses your little dead religion or causes you to be transformed away from being conformed to this world. Dress like the world. conduct yourself like the world. go to the worldly places. but mock the Holy Things of God.
I say all who take this attitude are hell bound. Your flesh is never going to let you be not conformed to this world. Don’t be set apart. While God said we must be set apart. Be a peculiar people, Holy and unblamable, showing Godliness in our DAILY LIVES.
Lord Jesus, give me their portion. I want it ALL.
Profaning The Sabbath
Profaning the Sabbath ~
In Nehemiah 13 we find that Nehemiah was very diligent about ‘cleaning up’ the newly restored people of Jerusalem and getting them to do right in the sight of God. He caused them to bring the tithes into the house of God and not to forsake the house of God.
He was very diligent about seeing that they observed the Sabbath Day according to the things commanded by Moses. He knew this was one of the reasons God’s wrath had come upon them and that city had gone into captivity and destruction. He told them if they continued to do things forbidden on this day God would again bring his wrath upon them.
Neh. 13: 15. In those days saw I in Judah some treading wine presses on the Sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and lading asses; as also wine, grapes, and figs, and all manner of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the Sabbath day: and I testified against them in the day wherein they sold victuals.
16. There dwelt men of Tyre also therein, which brought fish, and all manner of ware, and sold on the Sabbath unto the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.
17. Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said unto them, What evil thing is this that ye do, and profane the Sabbath day?
18. Did not your fathers thus, and did not our God bring all this evil upon us, and upon this city? Yet ye bring more wrath upon Israel by profaning the Sabbath.
19. And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the Sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the Sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the Sabbath day.
20. So the merchants and sellers of all kind of ware lodged without Jerusalem once or twice.
21. Then I testified against them, and said unto them, Why lodge ye about the wall? If ye do so again, I will lay hands on you. From that time forth came they no more on the Sabbath.
22. And I commanded the Levites that they should cleanse themselves, and that they should come and keep the gates, to sanctify the Sabbath day. Remember me, O my God, concerning this also, and spare me according to the greatness of thy mercy.
Now here is a good lesson on Sabbath Keeping, according to the O.T. This man Nehemiah was working to see that the people quit profaning this Sabbath Day. How did they profane it? Read the passage.
Verse 15 shows they were bringing burdens into Jerusalem and selling them on this day. Buying and selling profanes the Sabbath.
V 16 again shows the selling to be profaning the Sabbath. V 17 he calls it evil. V18 declares this is the very reason God brought evil upon this city. “Yet ye bring more wrath upon Israel by profaning the Sabbath.
V 19 he set some of his servants at the gates to see that no burdens were brought in on the Sabbath day. The merchants tried to keep coming even then, but Nehemiah told them if they came again he would lay hands on them.
Now when you go back and try to keep the law of the O.T. you are bringing in ‘burdens’ which are forbidden to be brought into the New City, the New Sabbath.
V22 he commands the Levites to cleanse themselves and come and keep the gates to sanctify the Sabbath day. Remember me, O my God and spare me according to you great mercy because of my doing this.
Now here is a great lesson for us. See how important keeping the O.T. weekly Sabbath according to Moses’ commandments was then. Profaning this day brought God’s wrath upon them. You who still feel you must keep this day had better get it right according to what Moses said, or you will bring the wrath of God upon yourselves. You cannot turn this day into a ‘fun’ day, doing your own pleasure and ways. This will get you into serious trouble with God.
But now I want to show you what God told me this morning as he gave me this message. You know that the Word of God shows in Isaiah 28 that there was coming a new rest to the people of God. A rest to the soul. A Sabbath which Jesus would GIVE us. This Sabbath is accompanied by stammering lips and another tongue. This is the Baptism of the Holy Ghost which first came on the people on the Day of Pentecost – the beginning of the N.T.
This day is typed in the Sabbaths of the O.T. by the jubile year. This is the 50 days they kept. It said on this day they were to offer to God a New Meat offering. This typed the New Wine of the New Covenant which came on the Day of Pentecost. Once this New Sabbath is here, we are no longer to go by the Sabbaths of the O.T. If we do so, we are PROFANING the true Sabbath, the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.
If you refuse the stammering lips and the new tongue you fall backward and will be snared and taken and fall. Read it in Isaiah 28.
Now God showed me he has placed us his true servants of the N.T. Covenant at the ‘gates’ of the true Jerusalem the New Church, to see that this New Sabbath is no longer profaned. Yes the gates are the Apostles Doctrine. They were the gates into this new City, or new move of God.
The New Sabbath was given to the disciples on the Day of Pentecost by Jesus. He baptized them with the great Holy Ghost here with the evidence Isaiah said would accompany this outpouring of God’s Spirit, speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.
Now all of you who mock this, say ‘he he’ and call it names, such as charismatic are profaning this true Sabbath, which the O.T. Sabbath only typed.
All of you who reject this great move of God, who feel too proud for it, will not humble yourselves and let God have his way with you, are profaning the true Sabbath which Jesus gives to us.
The Apostles all taught to be baptized in water in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and then receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of stammering lips, speaking in another tongues as the Spirit gives utterance. They are teaching that this is the true rest, the rest to the soul. This is the N.T Sabbath or rest.
God has placed us here as he did Nehemiah then, to clean up this evil of mocking and profaning this Sabbath. We ‘sit’ at the gates, Acts 2: 38 and Acts 10 and tell you that you had better quit mocking and profaning this true Sabbath. When you reject this and go back to the O.T. Sabbath you are profaning the real Sabbath.
God will bring his wrath upon you because of this evil. I am warning you just as Nehemiah warned them then. The buying and selling of Holy things, or things concerning worship is again profaning this Sabbath. It is the mark of the Beast. If you pay a preacher, or he receives pay to preach it is profaning this Sabbath. The things of God are free. Freely you have received freely give. This is the true Church.
Any buying and selling connected with worship and things of God is evil. It profanes the Sabbath. God has sent me to warn you. He told me to tell you his wrath is headed your way. He said for all of you to repent and receive this true rest or be destroyed forever. If you continue to ‘mock’ this Sabbath Jesus gives, God’s wrath is headed your way.
Peter, Paul and the other Apostles are the gates into the true City. You must come in by their message. . They taught the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with evidence of speaking in tongues. You cannot go back and let Moses by your ‘gate’ into the Holy City. If you refuse this, if you mock this, the wrath of God is headed your way. Be warned!
Jo Smith— March 29, 2003
Let Us Look at Another Commandment
From: joie (Original Message)Sent: 11/13/2003 12:48 AM
James 2: 10. For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11. For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
Now I am asking each of you – are you trying to tell us you keep all the whole law and never break any one point of it? If not, then you are guilty of breaking it all. So your fishing on Sat. will do you no good.
Do you never ‘bear false witness’?
Do you never take the name of the Lord in vain?
Do you never covet? Now really? not ever? not anything? are you sure. you better be very sure – for you put yourself back under that law, you better be sure you don’t break ANY OF IT — NOT JUST FISH ON SAT. OR CLIMB MT. OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU DO TO SUIT YOUR PLEASURE ON SAT.
bETTER RUN TO THE ROCKS AND MT TO FALL ON YOU.
BETTER RUN TO THE N.T. WHILE YOU STILL CAN; BETTER GO GET BAPTIZED IN JESUS NAME FOR THE REMISSION OF YOUR SINS WHILE U STILL CAN.
better let the Holy Ghost speak in tongues through you while he still will.Exodus 20 1. And God spake all these words, saying,
2. I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
4. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;Now, lets look at these commandments a minute. v4–do not make any graven image —how bout all those graven santa clauses’? graven raindeers? graven rabbits and eggs? manger scenes? wise men scenes? crosses? big church steeples? stained glass windows?No graven images, huh?Guess you will all fall over this one. Might ought to forget this law keeping and run to Grace.Do you ‘bow’ to old santa? God is a jealous God. How bout those decorated up trees? God said not to have them; not to do any green tree worship — might ought to forget this law keeping and run to Grace. But know what? you would still have to leave out these idols to please God.Now I know for a fact that this alone will take most of you completely away from God. Without the Holy Ghost, you are steeped in idols. Got them running out your house, up to the house top (lights all over the place)– in your bushes, on your fences, coming down your chemneys, egg hunts, sun rise worship- my my. Better beg God to give you the Holy Ghost while you still can. IF you still can.God is a jealous God. Better quit all this idol worship and try to hide behind going fishing on Sat.Your little ole screeming about sabbath is NOT GONNA SAVE YOU FROM ALL THESE IDOLS. GOD IS JEALOUS. YOU ARE NOT FOOLING HIM A BIT.you love your idols; your ball games; your dances; your t.v. evils, your worldly dressing and doings. your sabbath doings is NOT GONNA SAVE YOU.Better listen to this little ole woman. I am telling you the solid truth. No church out there will tell it to you straight. Better forget them; they are whores against God. God is jealous your idol holidays is provoking him to anger.your lies about sabbath keeping is only making him more angry.Without the Holy Ghost you are lost.This next section is very important:Numb. 15: 32. And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33. And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34. And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
35. And The Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36. And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.Now I have heard so much about this ‘Sabbath keeping’ I am going to look into this matter real close; (since my salvation depends on doing this business right) and yours does too. So I want to help you people keep that day holy and do it according to Moses. Not Pharisees as your false teachers deceived you with – but Moses. Not one thing will I write which the Pharisees get credit for – only Moses in whom you trust.Now be sure you don’t go anywhere near to any sticks; at least not to GATHER ANY. It is a matter of DEATH. Stoning. You will surely go to hell if you gather any sticks on Sat.Got to help you all stay out of hell and being stoned. (by the way, who sees that this stoning is carried out?)
That was GOD who commanded this man who gathered sticks on the Sabbath to be stoned to death; not the Pharisees. This is WHY those Pharisees were so digilent about trying to keep this day right, and to get others to do so – they knew about the horrible concquesces of disobeying it. (maybe you too better get down to seriously keeping this day right; not according to your own pleasure).
By: Jo Smith
Kindle a Fire On the Sabbath?
How important is obedience?
I find it very odd and hypocritical that the very church which advocates this thing of Sabbath keeping, causes you all to BREAK IT by going to church on Sat. The above Scripture shows you are not to go out of your house on this day.
If you are gonna keep this day better get to doing it right.
Exodus 35
- And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the Lord hath commanded, that ye should do them.
- Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the Lord: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.
- Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.
If you do ANY WORK ON THIS DAY YOU SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH.
Who is responsible to see that this killing is carried out? You can say it is not supposed to be done all you want to; but I say unto you, if this law still stands, this part of it still stands also. He did not do away with part of it and keep the other part.
You are breaking this Sabbath law if you do not see that the guilty ones are KILLED. THIS IS JUST AS MUCH PART OF THE SABBATH LAW AS NOT WORKING IS.
If you kindle any fire on this day you broke it and are guilty of breaking the whole law. You will go to hell for starting a fire on Sat.
If it is cold you better not start a fire. I am very serious people. You have bound yourselves to this Sabbath law. You had better get it right. God is not going to put up with you changing his laws to suit yourself.
yes, we are persecuted just as He was, because we speak the same truth he did. If they have called Him the devil, how much more we who are of his household. Now we do not belong to Moses’ house.
Isa. 51: 4. Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.
- My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.
Jesus is speaking in prophecy here — he said O my nation _-(not speaking to those old jews – nope – speaking to the N.T. Christians)– A LAW SHALL (future tense)– proceed (something yet going to happen) — (long after the O.T. law was given by Moses)–
A law – shall proceed from me (Jesus speaking)– and I will make my judgment to restfor a light of the people — the O.t. Law is darkness –
So Jesus is prophecying that His Law will give Light. A law yet to come from Jesus — = (not yet given)–
See, His righteousness is NEAR?- (not yet come)–
This LAW was the commandment given by Peter on the Day of Pentecost; and again in Acts 10.
This LAW is the law of life in Christ Jesus, which makes us free from the LAW OF SIN AND DEATH.
= O.T. Law of Moses.
Now I am asking all adventist or other believers in going by OT law to get into these discussions and either prove or disprove the truth of all this.
it is important. I want to see the other nine commandments upheld and taught. All I have ever heard come out of your mouths is this thing of going to church or fishing on Saturday.
How hypocritical can one be!! Now you do not want law. You do not want holiness. You do not want truth.
Everyone of you fled from these discussions before. I grant you, it will be the same this time. But you cannot escape. You cannot claim now that the pharisees caused these laws to be hard on you. It is what Moses said by the mouth of God.
You better quit listening to Ellen white’s church and listen to God’s word or you are hell bound.
Jo Smith
Is It Right To Bear A Burden On the Sabbath?
From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 11/13/2003 12:44 AM
Jer. 17 : 21. Thus saith the Lord; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem;
- Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers.
- But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction.
- And it shall come to pass, if ye diligently hearken unto me, saith the Lord, to bring in no burden through the gates of this city on the sabbath day, but hallow the sabbath day, to do no work therein;
Now here is a prophet saying the same thing: bear (carry) no burden on the sabbath day — do not carry a thing out of your houses on this day; take no burden through the gates of your city.
Now how many of you are very careful NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING IN OR OUT OF YOUR HOUSE ON SAT?
DO YOU REALLY KEEP THIS DAY HOLY?
YOU HAD BETTER TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
I TRULY DO NOT BELIEVE ANY OF YOU TAKE IT SERIOUS. I TRULY DO NOT BEIEVE ANY OF YOU THINK YOU MUST DO ANY OF THIS – THEN HOW ARE YOU KEEPING THE DAY HOLY?
YOU MUST OBEY— you must obey the word— you must keep it right according to the word. God will not hold you guiltless if you say you keep it and do not obey how he said to do it.
Isa, 58: 13. If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
Now this one tells you that you must not find your own pleasure on the Sabbath, NOR SPEAK YOUR OWN WORDS ON THIS DAY.
AND ON TOP OF ALL THIS, CALL THIS A DELIGHT — SEE YOU MUST ENJOY DOING ALL OF THIS STUFF.
Now I am going to tell you something – you kick the Pharisees for what they were doing – trying to make people keep this day right – well they were doing exactly what Nehemiah was doing – trying to make them keep it right so God would not destroy them. And if you think you need to do this, you had BETTER DO THE SAME THING. (better quit going fishing (your own pleasure) on sat.)
But go, with an open mind, and read all of this, then read how Jesus battled those people all the way trying to get it going another way.
Those Pharisees were only trying to keep them from breaking the Sabbath to keep the wrath of God off them; but Jesus did right the opposite.
WONDER WHY?
Maybe you better study this. And also see what a lot of work I have gone to to help you all learn how to keep it right to keep God’s wrath off you. You really should appreciate me.
Your church causes you to break it while deceiving you into thinking they helped you keep it.
How can you go to church?
You are not supposed to go out of your house; you can only travel a short distance.
You cannot carry any ‘burden’ (means anything out of your house– not even your Bible. nor your pocket book. Do you take these things to church? then you are breaking the day and are guilty of breaking the whole law. You will go to hell.
Now you adventist claim all of this was the way the Pharisees said do this thing of keeping the 7th day Sabbath, therefore you are not bound to keep it this way.
So I say go find Scripture and prove that this came through the Pharisees.
Then why is it written way back there in Jer?
this is not from the Pharisees. it is a command given by Almighty God.
If you must keep any Sabbath, then you must keep it the way He said. This is part of His law concerning how to do this thing.
So I am still asking you adventist to tell us how you do it — how are we to do it? What laws do we go by?
You have told us zillions of time we must keep this day, but then when we try to find out HOW to obey and keep it, none of you will tell us.
Tell us how you keep it. Or be quiet about it.
Jo
These Other Sabbaths
From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 11/13/2003 1:24 AM
OK. Now let’s let this community see who has the truth of this matter. Let the one who proves how to keep the Sabbath Holy by the Word of God be the one who has God teaching them truth. I am on my way. Care to join me?
Now I am studying this throughly. I am going to post quite a few Scriptures PROVING HOW GOD WANTS THE SABBATH KEPT HOLY.
I tell you, if you are still under obligation to keep that 7th day, you are ALSO BOUND TO KEEP ALL THE OTHER SABBATHS. THE SAME GOD WHO SAID KEEP THE 7TH DAY SABBATH ALSO SAID KEEP THESE OTHER SABBATHS.
WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THIS? DO YOU KEEP ALL OF THEM? HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY BY THE WORD, NOT KEEPING THE OTHERS, IF YOU DO NOT?
Leviticus 23
- And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
- Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the Lord, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
- Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.
- These are the feasts of the Lord, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
- In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord’s passover.
- And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
- In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
- But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
(this throws this day to fall on the first day of the week, Sunday.)the 14th day and the 15th day could not both be on a sat. - And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
- Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
- And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
- And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord. (this types Jesus)
- And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
- And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
- And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
- Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.
Do you know why they were told in verse 16 to number fifty days and offer a NEW MEAT OFFERING UNTO THE LORD?
Because this thing TYPED the coming of the true meat offering to God, the Baptism of the Holy Ghost on the Day of Pentecost! It came 50 days AFTER THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS. That is why!
It was ONLY TYPES AND SHADOWS! SO WHY CONTINUE TO KEEP THE SHADOWS WHEN THE REAL THING HAS COME?
If you are under a command to keep the weekly Sabbath, you are also under a command to keep this one on the 5oth day (which by the way falls on the first day of the week)-
And if you still keep this type of Pentecost, it PROVES YOU DID NOT GET TO THE REAL PENTECOST.
AND IF YOU REFUSE THIS, YOU HAVE NO SALVATION.
- And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
- Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
- Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
- And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
- Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
- And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the Lord your God.
- For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
- And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
- Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
- It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
- And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
- Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the Lord.
- On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. (this one falls on Sunday)
- Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord: on the eighth dayshall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein.
(the 8th day is a Sunday) - These are the feasts of the Lord, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
- Beside the sabbaths of the Lord, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the Lord.
Now there are some more Sabbaths you are to keep and rest in and do no work in. Do you keep these Sabbaths? If not, where is your excuse? Where is your Scripture showing you are free from these Sabbaths, but not free from the weekly Sabbath? You are guilty of twisting too much Scripture.
There are actually more Sabbaths down through here which fall on the 1st day of the Week (Sunday) than the 7th day sabbath.
So where do you stand? They are just as much commandments from God as the other.
No where in this reading is any Pharisees mentioned. It said at the beginning of each new thought God commanded Moses – God said to Moses-
People, this is God’s Word; not the word of the Pharisees. Where did you all get this lame excuse to do away with the real way of keeping it Holy?
You are running away from God and truth.
Look at v.36– there again a Sabbath fell on the first day of the Week. Do you keep it? You had better – the same God who commanded the 7th day rest, also demanded rest on this day.
All of this business CLEARLY types the coming of the true rest, the Baptism of the Holy Ghost on Pentecost SUNDAY.
You cannot deny that this day fell on a Sunday. For it was 7 Weekly sabbaths, then one more day, making 50 days, which throws the true Sabbath, Pentecost to fall on a SUNDAY.
What you gonna do about this?
(you see, I am not ignorant about Sabbaths as you all thought I was.)
Now I want some discussion on each of these topics and new threads I have made from our old discussion of this subject. I want all of you adventist and law people to get in here and study this thing out and be truthful with God and His word. If not then you say to God his truth is not important and you will be lost.
I have warned you and warned you. It is serious; I am not joking or jesting with you. Nothing is more serious. without honesty and truth With God, You have no chance for salvation; only a fearful looking to of fiery indignation from an angry God who will DEVOUR THE ADVERSARY.
Unless you love truth and study to find truth, you are his ADVERSARY.
JO Smith
By Our Law
John 19:6 When the chief priests therefore and officers saw him, they cried out, saying, Crucify him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Take ye him, and crucify him: for I find no fault in him.
John 19:7 The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die
, because he made himself the Son of God.
(Where is any law saying that if you make yourself the Son of God, you must die?) I know of none.
Notice who said this. The Jews. Their chief priests cried, crucify him. The Jews said, We have a LAW, and by our LAW Jesus ought to DIE.
What law were they speaking of? Breaking the Sabbath. They had accused him several times of breaking their Sabbath. So now, they use this LAW, of Sabbath keeping, to have Jesus killed, according to their law. He broke their Sabbath, so he needs to be killed. (They had no other they could have used. They could not accuse him of breaking any other law. He had fulfilled it ALL.)
But, was this the end of that Sabbath law destroying the Lord? No, it was only the beginning. Watch:
Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and ofeternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away
, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Hebrews six, is clearly speaking here about NT salvation. It speaks of the foundation of REPENTANCE, (not part of law)–; faith, (law is not of faith);–Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. NONE of these things were of LAW, but of the NT salvation. So, this is clearly speaking of those who have come into NT times.
Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
There was no true enlightenment under that old law, for it blinds those who ‘read’ it, or hear it to live by it. They were never enlightened, nor did they ever taste the heavenly GIFT, for this GIFT is the Baptism of the Holy Ghost, which was NEVER given to those under that old law. Neither did they ever taste the good Word of God or the powers of the world to come. So this is clearly speaking of those who came into the NT salvation. Watch now, what it says about these people who had done all of the above, which clearly could not be speaking about those under law, but those under Grace:
For it is impossible for these people, Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
What is meant by, if they shall FALL AWAY? Let Paul answer this:
Gal 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free
, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. (Paul is calling the NT this liberty and in this Christ hath made us FREE. He tells them not to be entangled AGAIN with the YOKE OF BONDAGE. Peter clearly calls the law this bondage, in Acts 15; no guess work about this!)
Ga 5:2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. (Those telling the early Church they had to go back and keep the law of Moses, always linked it with this need to be circumcised, for this is the sign of LAW.)
Ga 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. (Notice, here, how Paul makes this unmistakably clear that he is tying being circumcised with the need to keep the whole law! Again, no guess work, here.)
Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace
. (So, there you have the meaning of ‘if they shall FALL AWAY’. If you think you must go back to keeping law, and being circumcised, then you FALL– AWAY– FROM–GRACE. And the result of this falling away, is that Christ is become of NO EFFECT unto you. You are thus lost. And according to Hebrews six, there is not hope of ever renewing you again to repentance. Why? Because by your LAW, YOU CRUCIFIED CHRIST AFRESH AND ANEW AND PUT HIM TO AN OPEN SHAME! That is exactly what your claiming you must needs go back to law, and keep some weekly Sabbath does to Christ, and to your own soul! And this is what is meant by the great falling away—so many denying Grace and going back to law.)
Ga 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. (It is the Spirit, or the NT salvation, Holy Ghost, which gives us righteousness, by FAITH. THE LAW IS NOT OF FAITH. Again, no guess work!)
Ga 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. (In Christ, this law thing avails NOTHING. Only FAITH which works by love. Law is not of Faith, and shows no love. Again, no guess work!)
Ga 5:7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth? (These people started out well and ran well for a while. Who hindered them? And how were they HINDERED? By those who told them they had to go back to keeping that law of Moses, (Sabbath keeping), and to be circumcised. So this hindered these Christians in their walk with Christ. It made them guilty of CRUCIFYING Jesus all over again. WE HAVE A LAW. AND BY OUR LAW, HE OUGHT TO DIE. He broke their Sabbath!
Ga 5:8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you. (Paul tells them here that it is not of him or of Jesus, that they are led astray and hindered and deceived back into picking up that law again.)
Ga 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. (Here Paul is saying that this little LEAVEN is their going back to law. That is the entire subject matter here. So going back to that law, by which Jesus had to die, breaking their Sabbath, is this leaven which has leavened their whole lump! Again, no guess work!)
So, by your going back to the law of Moses, written and engraven on stone, you do crucify Jesus Christ afresh and put him to an open shame. So says these Scriptures!
By: Jo Smith — July 9, 2008
The Law of Moses
Why is it called THE LAW OF MOSES? Is it God’s Law? or God’s Commandments? Let’s study and see.
The Law of Moses
Jos 8:30 Then Joshua built an altar unto the LORD God of Israel in mount Ebal,
Jos 8:31 As Moses the servant of the LORD commanded the children of Israel, as it is written in the book of the law of Moses
, an altar of whole stones, over which no man hath lift up any iron: and they offered thereon burnt offerings unto the LORD, and sacrificed peace offerings. J
os 8:32 And he wrote there upon the stones a copy of the law of Moses
, which he wrote in the presence of the children of Israel.
Jos 8:33 And all Israel, and their elders, and officers, and their judges, stood on this side the ark and on that side before the priests the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, as well the stranger, as he that was born among them; half of them over against mount Gerizim, and half of them over against mount Ebal; as Moses the servant of the LORD had commanded before, that they should bless the people of Israel.
Jos 8:34 And afterward he read all the words of the law, the blessings and cursings, according to all that iswritten in the book of the law
. Jos 8:35 There was not a word of all that Moses commanded, which Joshua read not before all the congregation of Israel, with the women, and the little ones, and the strangers that were conversant among them.
Schoolmaster Part 2
Schoolmaster, Part Two
The biggest deception for those hoping to find eternal life, today, is the false teaching that we, since the birth of Jesus Christ, must still be under the law or have the law as a schoolmaster, to bring us to Christ. They, (the false teachers), can make it all sound so good to the unlearned. By ‘unlearned’ I mean those who do not know the Word of God. Those walking in darkness are easily taken into this snare of Satan.
But if we look at the Word of God, as it is WRITTEN we can easily see that this is total deception and error. So, let’s check the Scripture very closely to find the truth.
Ga 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
[Notice here that the Scripture says that the Galatian Christians had been ‘bewitched’. So what is this bewitchment? This entire Book is about the deception of being UNDER LAW. It is clearly AGAINST the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. See that he said , you, before your eyes Jesus Christ hath been set forth, crucified among you. So he is referring to someone who is crucifying Jesus afresh and anew, among themselves. How is this done? It is clearly laid out in Hebrews and other Books, that it is by going BACK to law, thus denying the NT Salvation, by the Holy Ghost, and Grace. It is doing despite to the Spirit of Grace].
Ga 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[Here, Paul reasons with them: did you receive the Spirit, (Holy Ghost), by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? When they were under the works of the law, before Christ came, did they receive the Holy Ghost by that law? No. They know they did not receive it from law keeping. It comes only by FAITH, AND THE LAW IS NOT OF FAITH.]
Ga 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
[Here he makes it clear that this attitude of theirs is being foolish. Are ye so foolish? How? By allowing themselves to be bewitched into returning back to the bondage of LAW. He appeals to their sense of understanding… since you made this start with God, in the Spirit, (Holy Ghost; NT; Grace)… how can you now think you need the law to be made perfect, which is by the flesh? This is how they were so foolish, thinking they made this good start in the Spirit, but now needed the flesh, or law, in order to go on unto perfection. Surely, if the Law could not give them this Spirit, then they most certainly did NOT need that law in order to continue on. If it could not give the start, or the Spirit, it could not give the perfecting of their faith.]
Ga 3:4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain. 3:5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[Here he again appeals to common sense > >Why are you suffering in vain, if it is in vain? Why go back to law, when you were obviously suffering for Christ’s sake. He later shows that those of the works of law are not persecuted, but they are the ones who persecute those who teach the crucifixion of Christ. He asks them, are we working miracles among you by the works of the Law? Did those under the law ever work these miracles? No. They know it only came by faith and the law is not of faith, so why would they need to return to law?]
Ga 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Ga 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
[Abraham’s FAITH, or believing God, is how he was righteous. He was not under law. He lived by faith. How was this man righteous without law? If it takes law to make one righteous! So all who are of FAITH, (the law is not of faith), are the children of Abraham. We are the Seed of Abraham, not those who serve under law.]
Ga 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Ga 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
[The GOSPEL was preached unto Abraham. Why? Was law preached to Abraham? No. It was the GOSPEL. What was this gospel? In thee shall all nations be blessed. All nations. Now that is what those Jews hated, the bringing in of all nations. They wanted to have exclusive rights to God. They wanted to be his special people. But were they? No. Who was? It is those of faith, who believe and obey the GOSPEL. We are the blessed seed of Abraham. It is to you and your children, and ALL WHO AFAR OFF. It is for everyone. It is for the entire world. We never had that law. That law never brought us to Christ. What did then? It was the preaching of the gospel.Yes, it is the GOSPEL which brings us to Christ. That law did not do it. That law was a bondage, in which they were HELD until God sent his Son to this earth.]
Ga 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them
. [Now that is a very powerful statement…all who are of the works of the law are under the curse. So you think it takes a curse to bring us to Christ? Why? What was this curse? Where did it begin? Ever wonder? It began back in Eden, with Adam. He is the one who put them under that curse. He is the one who put them under the works of law. That is why and how his help meet was made subject to his rule, thus taking the entire world into bondage and a curse. Yes, this is the curse which was placed upon mankind because of Adam’s sin. He took them away from Grace, to do the works of the law. He brought up the animal sacrifices, not God. If you doubt this, study Isaiah one. If being under the law is a curse, then this is the same curse which was placed on them in Eden. How many ‘cruses‘ do you think there are?]
Ga 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[If no man is justified by the law, why in this world has most of the church world returned to the bondage of Law? Why? Go back the beginning of this chapter. There is the answer. Someone BEWITCHED THEM. So being under the works of that law is witchcraft. God said burning incense is worshipping an idol. So it is witchcraft.]
Ga 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
[Without FAITH, it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God. So it is impossible to please God by the works of that law].
Ga 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
[The bewitchers claim that Jesus only redeemed us from a curse, not the law. But go back and read all of this again. He said, if you are under the law, you are under a curse. So being under the law IS the curse. So then, Jesus would have had to deliver us from the law, in order to deliver us from the curse, for the law is the curse. Being under the works of the law is the curse. Do we need a curse to bring us to Christ? Not I. So then, what does bring us to Christ? It is the PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL!]
Ga 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
[Jesus redeemed us from the curse of the law, so the blessing of Abraham could come on the Gentiles through Him, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit, through faith. This began on the Day of Pentecost. This is exactly why so many fight this glorious Pentecostal experience. They hate this grace. They hate having faith without the works of the law, which is fleshly. They want to glory in their flesh. They glory in their works.]
Ga 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. Ga 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
[If one would not add to a man’s covenant, what makes you think that they can add to God’s covenant? Why do they feel free to add that we must return to law? Is that the covenant of God? Is it the one He is speaking of here? Watch and see. He said this promise was not made to all those ‘natural’ seed or children of Abraham, but to one seed, which is Christ. Abraham had eight natural sons, but the promise was only to Isaac. It was Christ.]
Ga 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect
. [Now this verse proves that the covenant which was confirmed before of God, in Christ, was NOT THAT LAW. The law came four hundred and thirty years later! So this proves that this covenant we are speaking of is the same covenant given to Abraham by FAITH. It is Grace, not Law, for the law is not of faith. So the children are those of Grace, not those who follow law.]
Ga 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
[How could anyone read this verse and still claim or think that the inheritance could come by law? It is by promise, which is the same promise which Peter spoke of in Acts 2:38.]
Ga 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions,
till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. [Now we get to the real truth about what that law was all about. It was ADDED because of TRANSGRESSIONS…….for how long? UNTIL THE SEED SHOULD COME to whom the promise was made. Who or what SEED is this? It is Christ. So after Christ is come, we have no more need for law or any schoolmaster. Then if you go back to law or a schoolmaster, you are denying Christ.]
Ga 3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. Ga 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. Ga 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
[Here it plainly tells us that no law could give us live. By that law, all were concluded to be under sin. The promise of righteousness came by FAITH of Jesus Christ. It did not come by law or any schoolmaster.]
Ga 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
[Now this verse is of utmost importance in understanding the TRUTH of this. BEFORE FAITH CAME, we, (who? Those back in the OT days), were kept under the law, SHUT UP unto the faith which should AFTERWARDS be revealed. BEFORE faith came, through the birth of Jesus Christ, they were kept under the bondage of the curse, the law.]
Ga 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
[ This is not speaking about Christians. It is speaking to those who lived before Christ came.]
Ga 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
[He is speaking about humanity; not Christians. After faith came, through Jesus, humanity is no longer under any schoolmaster. He is not saying that Christians were once under the schoolmaster, then are no longer under it. He is saying those of the OT were under it, but they are now set free from it. Humanity was set free from that bondage of a schoolmaster; law. It is witchcraft to teach that we must still be brought to Christ by a schoolmaster, the law.]
Ga 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Ga 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Ga 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Ga 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
[If you have been baptized into Christ, and come to faith, you are not under any law or schoolmaster. We who were born in Grace were NEVER under any schoolmaster. It took the preaching of the GOSPEL to bring US to Christ. Those under that law, in the OT, never heard the preaching of the Gospel. Abraham lived 430 years before that law was given. So it is NOT the covenant which was confirmed in Christ BEFORE the law given to Moses. So how in this world can so many people be bewitched into thinking that they are still under that curse, the law of Moses? How can you think that you still need to keep certain days, months, and times, when this Book of Galatians clearly condemns it? If we belong to Christ, we are Abraham‘s seed, which had the gospel preached to him, and was righteous WITHOUT the works of the law. He had this righteousness of faith without works, 430 years before that bondage of law was given, so that law could not possibly be the covenant of faith.]
So, can you claim that the OT Law people also had the gospel? Here is proof that they did not, for it began with Jesus Christ
: Mr 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
What caused us to believe? Ac 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
So it took the preaching of the gospel, not some schoolmaster. Those Gentiles never had any schoolmaster bringing them to Christ. They came to Christ by the preaching of the gospel by the mouth of Peter. It did not come through Moses.
Can the ‘gospel’ be pertaining to law? Ac 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the
gospel of the grace of God.
No. It is of Grace. It is of Jesus: Ro 1:9 For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the
gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers; [..the gospel of his Son, not of law.]
The power of God is in the preaching of the Gospel, not by the works of the law: Ro 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the
gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God untosalvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Ro 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
So don’t let any bewitchers bewitch you into believing that the Jews still need a schoolmaster to bring them to Christ, nor that any Gentiles need that law. The gospel is the power of God to both for salvation.
How were we begotten to Christ? By some schoolmaster? 1co 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have
begotten you through the gospel.
So we find that we are begotten or brought to Christ by the preaching of the gospel, not by some schoolmaster. If you claim a schoolmaster got you to Christ, you are lying and calling this word of God a lie, and denying the truth of the gospel. It is the power of God, not some schoolmaster.
Were any called to Jesus and salvation via any schoolmaster? How did we get to Christ? 2th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because
God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 2th 2:14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. [So we find that God called us from the beginning and chose us to salvation by the GOSPEL, not some schoolmaster. Christians are not called by some schoolmaster. We were chosen and called by the GOSPEL.
More proof: 2ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, 2ti 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:
Now that makes it very clear that God saved us, called us, not by WORKS, which is the flesh, law, but by his GRACE. This came through the light of the GOSPEL, not by any schoolmaster. There is just no scripture declaring that since Jesus came, we need some schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. It is lies of the BEWITCHERS.
Now the Apostles to the Jews or the circumcision, really gets bold and declares that even those who died before had to hear the gospel
: 1pe 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. [So then we see that their having a schoolmaster did NOT give them life].
And we find that this gospel is so necessary and important, that an angel was sent to take it to the whole world: Re 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
[So then every nation and tongue and people must hear and receive the GOSPEL. A schoolmaster simply will not do the job. Only when humanity was children, or under that bondage of law, did they have a schoolmaster, and this kept them as servants and never set them free. They were shut up under this bondage, UNTIL the Seed came, which is Christ. So you deny that Christ is come, when you say we still need a schoolmaster. You do deny the gospel, the grace and the very purpose for which the Son of God was manifested. You also deny the working of the Holy Ghost.
Only because the Holy Ghost was not yet given, before Jesus came, were they ever under any schoolmaster
: John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
So for you to claim that we still need a schoolmaster, is flat denying that the Holy Ghost has now been given.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name,
he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
[Now that plainly declares that it is the HOLY GHOST which will teach us all things. So if you declare that we still need the law to teach us, you are flat denying this comforter which is given by the Father, the Holy Ghost. You who hold to law are the ones who hate this Holy Ghost.
Heb 9:6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God. Heb 9:7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people: Heb 9:8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
[This work of the old priests was showing that the way into the holiest of all was not YET made manifest, while the FIRST TABERNACLE WAS YET STANDING. So the schoolmaster is part of this first tabernacle. If you still go by that schoolmaster, you have not yet found the way into the holiest of all. You do deny it.]
Heb 9:9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
[Those things which was done under that old law or schoolmaster were carnal ordinances imposed on them UNTIL the time of REFORMATION. So for you to hold to that, you still have NOT come to the reformation, or Christ. You are still under those carnal ordinances. It is all part of that first tabernacle, the law.]
Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. Heb 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
(Those dead works is the works of that law). Heb 9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Now that clearly shows that to come to Christ, you must not be under that first tabernacle or law, which is with the blood of animals and cannot make you perfect or save you from your dead works. If you hold to that schoolmaster, you do deny this offering of Jesus Christ and his holy blood, for that schoolmaster is totally part of the first tabernacle. It is bewitching to teach people against this true covenant of the blood of Jesus, and say they still need that old schoolmaster to bring them to Christ. Nothing of that sort is taught in Scripture. You cannot rightly divide Scripture when you try to hold that schoolmaster to the New Covenant or to get them to Christ. It was never part of the new covenant. It is certainly part of that old law covenant of the blood of animals.
I will finish this message with this verse
: John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
[So we see that it is the Father who draws us to Christ, not some schoolmaster. So I conclude with a strong admonition to all of you: beware of those who bewitch you drawing you away from Christ, Grace, back to law, bondage and claiming that you still need that old schoolmaster to bring you to Christ.
Run, flee. Resist the devil and HE will flee FROM YOU. Resist this lie with the truth which is given to you in these Scriptures. I have given you full proof here, that it is a teaching of the devil and deceivers who are seeking to bewitch you. It is bewitchment to say we still need that old schoolmaster, after Jesus came and preached the glorious gospel of salvation to us.
By: Jo Smith ~~~ Oct. 9, 2006
Two Laws
| From: joie | Sent: 2/6/2003 8:07 PM |
| Romans 3: 19. Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22. Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: Look at v 20, no flesh shall be justified by the deeds of the law.v21–…righteousness of God without law….v22-….righteousness of God which is by Faith.. 27. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28. Therefore we conclude that a man isjustified by faith without the deeds of the law. v27….makes it clear that there are two DIFFERENT SETS OF LAW. One is the works of the law of the O.T. – the law of commandments given to Moses. BUT…. THERE IS ANOTHER LAW —- A LAW OF FAITH.v28-…man is justified without the deeds of the law …. so this would have to be speaking of the same law the Word always says man is not justified by = the law of commandments given to Moses. Gal. 3: 11. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12. And the law is not of faith: but, the man that doeth them shall live in them. Here Paul once again said man is not justified by the law; and the law is NOT of faith. So when you put this with the above Scripture in Romans 3, it said there is another LAW …. A LAW OF FAITH. Every word of God is LAW. But it is not the same as the law of commandments. This is what is not of faith. Romans 8 1. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 2. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Now once again we have here two different sets of laws: that of the law of sin and death = the law of commandments given to Moses; for this law demands death to the disobedient.and another law = the law of life in Christ Jesus. Now this is that law of faith. It is a ‘LAW’ of God that if one is in Christ Jesus by FAITH, then that one will have LIFE; NOT DEATH. This LAW OF FAITH is the law God has written in our hearts and minds —– NOT THAT LAW OF COMMANDMENTS. |
Two Masters
| From: Freeborn22 (Original Message) | Sent: 4/28/2006 10:11 PM |
| Two Masters..> By Jo Smith >. Sept. 1, 2005This is what Jesus said:Mt 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:Mt 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.Mt 6:23 But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness! 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.6:25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?Mt 6:26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?v19–Here Jesus speaks of the very thing we have been discussing so hotly, that of laying up earthly treasures upon earth, where the ‘thieves’ break through and steal. Now take that to the message Paul said the thief is the one who takes pay for doing the work of God. They broke into the ‘church’ and TAKE OF YOU. Paul said they are Satan’s ministers, transforming themselves.See here they broke into that ‘treasure’house, the church. They take of it. They are laying up for themselves earthly treasures. So watch this:v20- lay up for yourselves treasure in heaven…where these thieves do not break through nor steal…see they cannot steal your life with God in TRUTH. I have showed you how if they receive earthly, or money compensation, they will NOT HAVE THE HEAVENLY TREASURE. So here he is still speaking of not taking pay for your labour for God.v21-Where your treasure is there will your heart be also…..so their heart is in their ‘church’ for this is where they lay up their earthly treasures…money.v22- The LIGHT of the body is the EYE. If the eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of LIGHT. What is LIGHT? = TRUTH. what is TRUTH.= GRACE. Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.v23-But if thine eye be evil. -[notice this evil here takes the place of double]— the whole body shall be full of darkness.So what is DARKNESS, spiritually? It is error, false teachings. It is LAW. The law is darkness and bondage. |
v24–No man can serve two masters: ..ye cannot serve GOD AND MAMMON.
So see here that he shows that the TWO MASTERS ARE GOD AND MONEY. Yes, money is mammon.
So he is saying that for the eye to be single, it must be full of GRACE, NOT LAW. Law is darkness and bondage.
Everything in the word of God is the difference between LAW AND GRACE, FROM THOSE TWO TREES IN EDEN, TILL THE END OF THE WORLD. Yes, that tree of the knowledge of good and evil isLAW.
Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ…you must come fully into GRACE, to have LIGHT. .and TRUTH…which is to be single-eyed.
To be of a double heart of mind, or eye, is to try to serve God by both law and grace.. this is utterly IMPOSSIBLE.
See also that those under law are the ones who serve MAMMON? Those OT priests were the ones being fed of their brethern.
It is by LAW that they tithe. It is by LAW that they pay a man. this is darkness and error.
THE LAW IS NOT OF FAITH… SEE THAT HE SAID YOU MUST HAVE FAITH…TO LAY UP TREASURES IN HEAVEN. FAITH IS ONLY POSSIBLE UNDER GRACE. IF YOU GO TO LAW.. YOU ..FALL. .FROM GRACE. The law is not of faith.
IF YOU TAKE PAY, YOU ARE UNDER LAW…DARKNESS…MAMMON.
GOD AND MAMMON ARE THE TWO GODS HE MENTIONED….SO THEY ARE OPPOSITES….WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE ALL YOU PREACHER-PAYING FOLKS…OR YOU PREACHERS TAKING MONEY AS YOUR REWARD FOR IT?
…out in the DARKNESS OF BONDAGE. GOD CALLED THIS …EVIL.
Now take Scripture to dispute this, not your own carnal thoughts. I proved it with Scripture, so don’t go handing me your carnal thoughts to oppose this.
By: Jo Smith
15 Classes The Law Was Made For
Date Posted:11/30/2014 3:56 PM
Freeborn,
As you can see there is alot on my mind this morning. And since everybody everywhere is saying they are following JESUS and keeping the LAW at the
same time. I want to show them here just why the LAW was given. And maybe after studying this, will they still try to uphold the LAW. I guess they are
in one of these classes of People. Wonder if they will go to heaven when they die? But I guess, these sinners still think they are going to heaven. They
are in a total delusional state.
Tweety
Fifteen Classes the Law Was Made For
- Lawless-Greek: anomos (NT:459), contempt for law; no rule of moral conduct. Translated “lawless” (1 Tim. 1:9); “without law” (1 Cor. 9:21); “unlawful” (2 Peter 2:8); “transgressor” (Mark 15:28; Luke 22:37); and “wicked” (Acts 2:23; 2 Thes. 2:8).
- Disobedient-Greek: anupotaktos (NT:506), not under subjection; undisciplined. Translated “disobedient” (1 Tim. 1:9); “not put under” (Hebrews 2:8); and “unruly” (Titus 1:6,10).
- Ungodly-Greek: asebes (NT:765), irreligious (1 Tim. 1:9; 1 Peter 4:18; 2 Peter 2:5; 2 Peter 3:7; Jude 1:4,15).
- Sinners-Greek: hamartolos (NT:268), transgressors of law. Translated “sinner” 41 times and “sinful” (Mark 8:38; Luke 5:8; Luke 24:7; Romans 7:13).
- Unholy-Greek: anosios (NT:462), totally depraved; the utter opposite of holiness within and without. Only here and 2 Tim. 3:2.
- Profane-Greek: bebelos (NT:952), not fit to attend public worship (1 Tim. 1:9; 1 Tim. 4:7; 1 Tim. 6:20; 2 Tim. 2:16; Hebrews 12:16).
- Patricides-Greek: patraloas (NT:3964), those who strike or slay their father. Only here.
- Matricides-Greek: metraloas (NT:3389), those who strike or slay their mother. Only here.
- Murderers-Greek: androphonois (NT:409), those who take any human life contrary to law. Only here.
- Whoremongers-Greek: pornois (NT:4205), male prostitutes
- Sexual perverts-Greek: arsenokoitais (NT:733), those guilty of unnatural sexual practices
- Menstealers-Greek: andrapodistais (NT:405), kidnappers; those who steal slaves and sell and buy them, or who hold men for ransom. Only here.
- Liars-Greek: pseustais (NT:5583), saying for truth what is known to be false (1 Tim. 1:10; John 8:44-45; Romans 3:4; Titus 1:12; 1 John 1:10; 1 John 2:4,22; 1 John 4:20; 1 John 5:10).
- Perjurers-Greek: epiorkois (NT:1965), those who lie under oath. Only here.
- Those guilty of any vice contrary to sound doctrine (1 Tim. 1:10; Galatians 5:21).
What Is the Tree of Death?
Ok, here is the Scriptural answer:
Ro 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the KNOWLEDGE of sin.
Now the above verse plainly tells us that by the LAW is the KNOWLEDGE of sin, or evil. We know that the law also teaches us what is good. So this solidly proves that the LAW is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Now watch this verified next.
Ro 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should bemarried to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Ro 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. (The day you EAT of this tree, you will DIE.)
Ro 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve innewness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. (THIS SHOWS we were delivered from that old dead tree of Law, to be placed into the tree of life, which is GRACE.)
Ro 7:7 What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. (THIS Plainly shows that the KNOWLEDGE of sin came by the LAW.)
Ro 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. Forwithout the law sin was dead.
Ro 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. (the day you eat thereof, you will DIE.)
Man was alive without the law, for without the law, there is no sin. there was only life, until Adam and Eve partook of law.
The Law of Sin and Death
~~ The Law of Sin and Death ~~
What causes death? Was it being under the law? No. This is not the cause of death. Here is the answer to this question:
Rom 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. 6:21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
Ro 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Ro 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Ro 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. (Adam knowingly and willfully transgressed the law of God and took them into the law of sin and death. He went from grace, life, into death, willfully. There is no forgiveness for this sin unto death. So no other person did sin after this similitude).
So we see that sin is the cause of death. One man, Adam, brought sin into the world. By this sin he also brought death into the world. God had told Adam the day you ‘eat’ of that tree, you will die. So the disobedience to God was sin, and by this sin came death.
Now this is the reason death reigned from Adam to Moses. Sin was always in the world, so death was also always in the world. See the law did not bring death. Sin did. See verse 21 said the end of those things, (unrighteousness) is death.
Verse 22 shows the way out of this dilemma. When we are made free from sin, by Jesus coming into our lives, the end of this is everlasting life.
So how is all of this tied to the law? Again the Word will show us. Ro 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
So from this we see that the carnal mind is death. So to be carnally minded is the sin. So then we must conclude that Adam went from a spiritual mind to a carnal mind. He went from life to death. How? By partaking of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. So what is that? Again let the Word show us. Ro 7:5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit untodeath.
Ro 7:7 What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Ro 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Ro 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Ro 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Ro 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Now we see that the motions of sins were by the law. I had not known sin but by the law, for by the law is the knowledge of sin. So this clearly shows that the law was that tree of the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil. We have already established that the law was good. It was ordained to life, but we find that it was unto death. Sin was set in motion by the law. Where there is no law, sin is not imputed. Now there was still sin, but it was not imputed. Yet the sin still brought forth death, for the wages of sin is death. We see also that the law only speaks to those who are under law. It brings all the world to be guilty before God. So see that by the law, the world became guilty and by the law shall no one be justified. So if you are under law, you are in death.
So now when you put all of this together there is only one conclusion one can come to. Adam took the world under law. He went to law, for without the law, sin was dead. So then to be under the law is to be carnally minded. See the knowledge of sin came by the law. Death came by sin. To be carnal minded is death. So they are all joined into one and the same event. Law, sin, carnal mind, = death, no justification.
So the question is, How then can one be justified and set free from this death? Answer: Ro 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 3:24 Beingjustified freely by his gracethrough the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
So there is only justification by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ. Notice he said this is remission of sins that are PAST. There is a false teaching today that even future sins are remitted at this time. I do not find that in Scripture. When the justification of Jesus is placed into our souls, we are then made free from sin. If you sin willfully after this, there is no sacrifice for those sins and it will cost you your soul.
So then, why was death reigning from Adam to Moses? Because sin was in the world. They sinned because Adam had taken them to law. Without law, there could have been no sin. But they had not been placed under that law by God. So God did not impute sins to them. Yet they still sinned and it cost them death. So then why did God give the law to Moses? Ro 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Ro 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Ga 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Ro 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
This tells us that law was for two purposes. To show sin as exceeding sinful, that God might require it and impute it to them because of their transgressions. They were to be held here under law until the seed should come, which was Jesus. Only in Jesus is deliverance. The law is not of faith, so it cannot give deliverance.
See there are two laws. You must take both laws into consideration to learn the real truth.
Ro 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Ro 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Ro 8:2 For thelaw of the Spirit of lifein Christ Jesus hath made me free from thelaw of sin and death.
So we see that there is a law of life which is by faith in Jesus Christ. This is not the law of works or the law of sin and death. God gave the law of sin and death to Moses. It was a law of no mercy, or grace. It was death, for everyone was declared guilty under this law. This law is not of faith, therefore no justification can come by this law. The end of this law is death. By this law is the knowledge of sin and the wages of sin is death. So the only way out of this death by sin, under this law, is to come into faith in Jesus Christ, into grace, out of law. The only means of having this is the Way of Pentecost, receiving the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for this remission of sins.
If you do not obey this faith plan of God, you will remain under the old law of sin and death. No amount of works under this law will give you salvation. No tithing, no Sabbath keeping, no church going, no paying a preacher, no singing or playing music, or teaching Sunday School, no building great temples of wood and stone, or such can give you justification from sins. Only coming into pure faith in His blood, obeying the NT plan of salvation, will free you from the carnal mind of Adam, Law, and give you life.
People were dying from Adam to Moses to show that all were under sin. Even though God had not placed them under that law, it was still at work in their lives, bringing forth sin unto death. But as their sins increased, God became angry at their evil lives and set the law up so that he could bring them all under the condemnation of willful transgressions like unto Adam, so that he could bring his wrath upon them. Only by placing them under the law of sin and death could God impute their sins to them and hold them guilty. Death was still upon them, but after the law came they were held guilty and God imputed their sins to them. Thus they could not find redemption until they came into Grace.
The body was held under death from Adam on down to us today. After salvation was made possible by the sacrifice of Jesus, then all who refuse to come into the NT way of Salvation, according to what God showed on the Day of Pentecost, will be held as guilty and condemned with the OT people who died under that law. All who are not willing to repent, be baptized in water in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and then be filled with the Holy Ghost, with the evidence of speaking in tongues will perish as under law.
The only means of salvation or deliverance from that old law of sin and death is to come into grace by this NT plan of Salvation. Going to church does not place you into grace. Paying tithes does not give you salvation. Keeping a Sabbath day is not grace. It is law. God said he despised this way of works. If you keep idols such as celebrating some birthday, which you claim is Jesus’ birthday, or some silly Easter thing, and all the other man-made holidays, then you are still under the law of sin and death. The wages of this sin is death. Why will you die? Why would all these silly things mean so much to you as to give up salvation to keep them these few years of mortal life?
It is time you all consider these things and stop allowing carnal minded people to hold you in bondage and destruction. If you hold to these false teachings, you are guilty of the same sins because you partake of their sins. Therefore you are just as guilty. Search the Scriptures as Jesus told us to do. Where is a command from God to do any of these silly things? If he did not command it, then it is of Satan. It is the sins of which death is the end. I pray someone will hear these words and come out of that darkness into His glorious LIGHT of TRUTH.
By: Jo Smith ~~ December 2, 2006
Life or Death?
From: joie (Original Message)Sent: 8/20/2001 3:19 PM
1John 2:7–Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
The old commandment is the WORD which ye had from the BEGINNING.
v8—Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness (law) is past, and the true light (Jesus) now shineth.
The law came by Moses; grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
11John 5–And now I beseech thee, lady,(church), not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
See, this commandment is to love one another. (period)
v6—-And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard FROM THE BEGINNING, ye should walk in it.
Moses law was 450 years AFTER the promise given to Abraham; therefore it could not be the Word WE HEARD FROM THE BEGINNING.
God gave them laws which were not good; and laws by which they could not live. (Eze.)
No flesh shall be justified by the law.
The law he put into our hearts is the one from the beginning, that we love one another. Love fulfills the law; Jesus loved; He fulfilled the law and thereby did away with it.
To cling to the law is to bypass justification.
Life could not come by the law.
Choose ye this day life or death; law or grace. Which will it be?
I choose life which is grace; which is the commandment, the word we heard from the beginning; not the law 450 years later.
Jo
Deliverance By Grace
From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 7/25/2004 9:55 PM
Now I will continue to show that deliverance comes only by Grace, not by law.
Genesis 6: 5. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
- And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
- And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
- But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
Now this is the very first time ‘grace’ is mentioned in the Word of God. Noah was the first person said to have found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
So what was this to Noah? See that the whole earth was wicked and filled with violence. They only thought of evil all the time. There was no love of God left, to speak of.
So there was enough evil and violence in the earth, that it made God sorry He had made man. So God decided to destroy the whole creation of man-kind and the other dust creatures he had made.
One family of all the earth was saved at the time of that great flood. This was the man who had found GRACE. Only by finding Grace was Noah’s family forgiven any sins they had done and delivered from being destroyed in that flood. Grace delivered him. For only by grace can we receive mercy. On in mercy can we be forgiven sins. Without this, we will be destroyed with the wicked.
The next time a great destruction is about to take place is down in Sodom and neighbor towns. You know the story, how the evil was so great and the just man, Lot was so vexed every day with all this evil which he saw around him. The angels of the Lord came and told him and his family to flee, they were going to destroy that evil place with fire.
Gen. 19: 15. And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.
- And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.
- And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.
- And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord:
- Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:
Now see that the only reason Lot and his family was spared this destruction is the same reason Noah and his family was spared — they had found GRACE in the eyes of the Lord.
Grace saved them. Only by Grace is deliverance from the punishment of sin. Only in grace is any mercy which is forgiveness.
By: Jo Smith
