Another Sabbath Law

From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 11/13/2003 1:29 AM 

Now let’s look at another ‘law’ of the Sabbath:Leviticus 24 1.  And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
 2.  Command the children of Israel, that they bring unto thee pure oil olive beaten for the light, to cause the lamps to burn continually.
 3.  Without the vail of the testimony, in the tabernacle of the congregation, shall Aaron order it from the evening unto the morning before the Lord continually: it shall be a statute for ever in your generations.
 4.  He shall order the lamps upon the pure candlestick before the Lord continually.
 5.  And thou shalt take fine flour, and bake twelve cakes thereof: two tenth deals shall be in one cake.
 6.  And thou shalt set them in two rows, six on a row, upon the pure table before the Lord.
 7.  And thou shalt put pure frankincense upon each row, that it may be on the bread for a memorial, even an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
 8.  Every sabbath he shall set it in order before the Lord continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant. (this everlasting covenant is the typed Church)  the church is the everlasting covenant.
 9.  And it shall be Aaron’s and his sons’; and they shall eat it in the holy place: for it is most holy unto him of the offerings of the Lord made by fire by a perpetual statute.

Notice again this is the LORD commanding Moses what to do; not any Pharisees.This is typing the true Church – these lamps on the pure candlestick.They were to set them in two rows, six on a row and put pure frankincense upon each row to be bread for a memorial , an offering made by fire unto the LORD. 

This is typing theBaptism of the Holy Fire of God.v8–Every sabbath they are to set it in order before the LORD continually by an everlasting covenant.Now, do you keep this Sabbath Law?  If not, why not?  How do you justify not obeying this law of Sabbath?  You are to do all that the LORD commanded for the Sabbath.  Setting up these lamps is one of the commandments of Sabbath.God commanded this to be done each Sabbath. 

So you had better do it – but realize when you do,  that you are TYPING  THE COMING OF THE TRUE BAPTISM OF FIRE TO THE TRUE CHURCH OF GOD –SHOWING THAT YOU ARE ONLY TYPING IT — NOT IN THE TRUE CHURCH.I want to ask, does your Adventist Churches have this done?  Do they obey this?  Do they set these lamps up as God commanded.  If not, you better run and hunt as Adventist Church which is serious with this business of keeping Sabbath according to the Word of God.Are there any?  I doubt it.

Law or Grace-PT.4

In John 8: Moses disciples (Pharisees)– are still bickering with Jesus. They never let him alone. Same today.

V33–The try to claim being Abraham’s seed v37– I know that ye are Abraham’s seed;

But ye seek to kill me, because my WORD hath no place in you.

They were LAW keepers; yet Jesus said His Word had no place in them. So his Word was not the LAW.

They were still seeking to kill him; and he was still telling them the truth of the matter.

V39–They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

V40–But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard from God: this did not Abraham.

V41–Ye do the deeds of your father. (Now Jesus has taken the conversation over into Grace; he is speaking spiritual now; they are still speaking fleshly)- Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

See they had tried to go to the flesh for their justification – by claiming to be Abraham’s natural children. This did not work — Jesus took it to the spirit. They understood this; so they also switched and tried to go spiritual by claim God to be their spiritual Father.

Look at Jesus’ answer to this:

V42–Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God;’ neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

Now, the Jesus only people deny this; and try to make Jesus a lie; by claiming Jesus is the father. See they all find some way to call Jesus wrong.

V43–Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my WORD.

See, under the LAW, one cannot hear the WORD.

V44–Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and father of it.

Now do you see, here that Jesus said that lies are the very property of Satan? Satan, the devil, originated lies and murder. So if you tell lies, you have in you the spirit of the devil. These LAW keepers had both lies and murder in their heart; yet they were accusing Jesus of breaking the Sabbath day. My, My.

Look at v59–Then took they up STONES to cast at him: ——

They were of the stony heart = the law. By the law they were to STONE offenders to death; so they felt justified to stone him to death; that was law. That is why they are forever throwing ‘stones’ at me; for I teach grace.

Now, let me see if I can take you into the true depth of this message:

They had brought a woman taken in adultery to Jesus and asked him if he would honor Moses law and let them stone her to death. Well, you know what happened; Jesus baffled them by calling on those without sin to start the stone throwing; but first he had convicted them all of their own sins.

He is smart.

But what was He really doing? Of course — what He came here for — Grace and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ. Now they thought, and most everyone still thinks Jesus was under the LAW; but was He?

He was MADE under the Law – meaning the Law time. Yet he himself, like Moses, the lawgiver, was under and in Grace. He is Grace.

So by Grace, what was his rest? Not the 7th day weekly Sabbath. That is why he constantly broke it. See he was KEEPING THE SABBATH DAY — BUT HE WAS KEEPING THE GRACE SABBATH.

The 7th day, weekly, one day a week, Sabbath is the LAW Sabbath. But Jesus was of Grace; so He kept the Grace Sabbath of the Holy Ghost; was he not filled with the Spirit at his Baptism? Is not this the Grace way of doing things? Is not this the New Testament salvation? Did not Jesus refer to the New Testament in His blood?

So, he did keep the Sabbath Day; but not their Law Sabbath. That is what angered them; they could not understand the NT. Sabbath Day – a Day of salvation- for the Holy Ghost was NOT YET GIVEN TO ANYONE EXCEPT JESUS.

So, Jesus DID keep the whole law; but he was keeping it the Grace way. Glorious revelation! Thank you Lord Jesus for this great truth.

He was the very first one to enter in at the strait gate, which leads to eternal life; He was in Grace; He was resting from his own works and doing the works of the Father.

Jesus could not stone the lady; for he gave her grace.

Jesus could not stop working on the 7th day rest for he was in grace. This is why he said, My Father works hitherto and I work. See, Both the Father and the Son keep the Grace Sabbath; not the Law Sabbath.

Now, watch that broken covenant:

watch that broken Covent

Now, all of the above shows how Jesus was keeping and showing the Grace life; the Grace Sabbath BEFORE his Death. The other side of Calvary.

So now, watch him throw them for a loop, which lasts all the way down to our day.

Jesus first appeared to a WOMAN. He then reveals the message of the resurrection to Mary.Then he does the UNTHINKABLE – (according to the Law)—- He commissions this WOMAN to go tell this message to his disciples. Now these disciples were all men.

So, here goes Jesus again, throwing LAW MINDED people way off into utter darkness —- why? Because they follow their father the devil = Adam. They are choosing death – law- bondage——saying only certain ones can serve God— only certain ones can teach the Word—– only certain ones have a right to God— only certain ones can be partakers—- only certain ones can do a work for God — must be male — must be Jew — must be 7th day resters—- etc. etc.

Get the picture?

Only those of us who have the Grace covenant = the Holy Ghost, can understand – or hear – or see. The rest were and are BLINDED.

Then Paul continues this blinding of those who choose LAW — he writes his words in such a way only those of us who have the Holy Ghost teaching us, can discern how it is to be interpreted.

He causes them to continue to believe that no woman can have or teach the revelation of God’s word; of our Father.

But those of us in Grace know that Jesus still baffles those old Law keepers; and he still sends out the Mary’s who have chosen that good part which not be taken away from us.

Praise your precious Name, my Holy Husband, Jesus for giving to this Mary, your handmaid, Jo, these wonderful words of Life to go and tell your disciples, male or female; for you do not see this flesh thing; to you we are all ONE.

Glory is too small to say — but it is all I know

God just keeps revealing more of this to me. I thought I was finished, but as I went back to read this, more came to me.

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You can tell those who are still the old Jerusalem; those still under law today. They have many different clues.

1. They still believe you must go to a certain PLACE to worship = a church building.

2. They still believe you must go on a certain DAY. (Either Sat. or Sun.)

3. They still believe you must give a certain amount of your income – 10%.

4. They still believe you cannot have the Holy Ghost according to Acts today.

5. They still believe you must rest on that 7th day.

6. They still believe women cannot teach the word.

7. They still believe there are no gifts of the Spirit at work today.

8. They still believe you must be ruled over by a certain man (pastor, bishop, priest, etc.). We are all one.

They still believe you must be in that one certain place for God to contact you. For they believe He dwells there and no where else. I have actually had them tell me I will miss God if I do not come to their church. I was receiving almost more than I could handle right at home.

Well, I could just go on and on; but you can put some of it together; at least the Grace people can.

Well, God showed me what some of those stones are that they, (the law minded) attempt to stone me to death with are:

Law Or Grace-PT. 3

John 7—- they are still ‘stewing’ over Jesus healing on the Sabbath Day ~~~~

V19–Did not Moses give you the LAW, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me? (See none of them were actually keeping the LAW).

They then deny seeking to kill Jesus. He told them by circumcising a man on the Sabbath, the priests profane the day and they are not guilty. Why are you angry with me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the Sabbath day?

V25–Then said some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill?

See it was common knowledge that they sought to kill Jesus; yet they denied this. At the very time they deny this, they are seeking to kill Jesus; there was no truth in them. See they think there is nothing wrong with lying; yet God demands truth – speak every man truth with his neighbor.

Every word of God is a command. We do not have a choice of obeying His voice or disobeying. If we disobey, we are in rebellion and He will give us damnation for this.

V 37–He tells them to come to him and drink; and out of their belly shall flow rivers of living water.

He spoke of the Holy Ghost = the true rest. This is where he was trying to take them; into the true rest; but they entered not in because of UNBELIEF.

V43–So there was a division among the people because of HIM.

See, this is the place of division today = because of HIM.

Those under LAW still hate those of us who let the Holy Ghost be our rest – because of HIM.

Now watch that ‘broken’ covenant.

Law Or Grace PT-2



God just keeps feeding me this message; this morning I was just meditating and He gave me this: 
John 19:7–The Jews answered him, We have a LAW, and by our LAW he (Jesus) ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.
Now just look at this — by the LAW Jesus, the Son of God ought to die —- why? > Because the LAW demands death, if you transgress the LAW.


What LAW are they going by? Guess!!!!!The SABBATH LAW.John 9:14–And it was the SABBATH DAY when Jesus made the clay, and opened his eyes.
V28–Then they reviled him (the blind man whom Jesus had healed on the Sabbath day)–and said, Thou art his disciple; but we are Moses’ disciples.


Yep, there is the whole trouble ~ they were Moses’ disciples. And anyone still bound by the law today is also a Moses’ disciple —- not Jesus’ disciples. You cannot be in Moses house; and in Jesus’ house (see Heb.)


V16–Therefore said some of the Pharisees, (Moses’ disciples)–This man (Jesus)–is not of God, because he KEEPETH NOT THE SABBATH DAY.
Others said, How could a man that is a sinner do such miracles? And there was a division among them.


Same today yep~ that Sabbath law makes the same division today; And know what? Those who try to hold to the one day a week Sabbath, have that same old hate, murdering spirit just as those Pharisees had.
John 5:1-18~ read this whole part– it is an eye opener

Here Jesus had healed the impotent man on the Sabbath Day. This made Moses’ disciples very angry. Angry with Jesus. Why? Because He broke their LAW.
They told the impotent man, It is not LAWFUL for thee to carry thy bed.
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11–but the man said the one who healed me, told me to take up the bed and walk.


See, this man had not walked for 38 years; he had lain on a bed. This bed represents those under the LAW; THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY LAME.Jesus healed him (set us free from that LAW; which had us bound = impotent).
(This kind of message still stirs up hate and murder in Moses’ disciples).


V15–The man departed, (left Jesus; backslid for a while)–and told the Jews that it was Jesus, which had made him whole.
V16–And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to SLAY HIM, because he had done these things on the SABBATH DAY.
See we have a LAW, and by our LAW, he ought to DIE.They sought to SLAY = KILL JESUS BECAUSE HE BROKE THEIR SABBATH DAY.
Now what was their SABBATH Day? The seventh day rest.


V17–But Jesus answered them, My Father WORKETH HITHERTO, AND I WORK.
V18–Therefore the Jews sought the more to KILL him, BECAUSE he not only had broken the Sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.See, by their LAW, they could not be God’s sons. They knew something was wrong; how could Jesus by God’s Son? He was under their LAW or so they thought.


But was He? 


Read on. John 7—- they are still ‘stewing’ over Jesus healing on the Sabbath Day ~~

V19–Did not Moses give you the LAW, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me? (See none of them were actually keeping the LAW).


They then deny seeking to kill Jesus. He told them by circumcising a man on the Sabbath, the priests profane the day and they are not guilty. Why are you angry with me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the Sabbath day?V25–Then said some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill?

Law or Grace?

Here is the main problem with everyone:

They do NOT understand the DIFFERENCE between LAW and GRACE.

Now, this was Paul’s MAIN theme. He wrote of this in all his epistles. He said this is a matter of salvation or being lost = the bond child = bound by sin = bound by law= bound by the yoke.

God showed me there is a message of law all the way through the word of God; from Genesis through Revelation. This is amazing to me; for I always thought there was law; then there was Grace.

That is not the way it is or was.

There was LAW in the beginning with Adam.

There was GRACE in the beginning with Adam.

He had a choice of either one of those trees or the other. One was life = Grace; the other was death = law.

Now Adam chose law = he chose death; for he did the thing God told him would bring death = he ‘ate’ of that tree of the knowledge of good & evil = law — by the law is the knowledge of sin = evil.

Now, there is STILL LAW AND GRACE.

Each one of us have the choice still to make: choose ye this day whom you will serve; choose how you will serve him; choose life or death; choose law or grace —— by warned— you cannot have both—– you must break with law and choose grace (LIFE) — or you will be bound by law and die and go to hell. For you have rejected God’s way = the tree of life.

Law is bondage = a yoke.

Grace is freedom = not yoked = set free. = No restrictions = no law. = No sin = life. (Eternal life)

Moses, the lawgiver, was not under law = he was in Grace.

Noah was in Grace.

Law —- says there are only certain ones who can serve God —– it was the Jews — no one else.

Law —– says there is only a certain PLACE you can serve God —– it was their Jerusalem.

Law — says Gentiles cannot have salvation.

The LAW was NEVER given to the Gentiles — only to the Jews.

The LAW prohibits the Jews from having anything to do with the Gentiles.

The LAW prohibits them from eating certain meats.

The LAW prohibits them from marrying certain people; only one of their own kind.

The Law prohibits them from working on Saturday.

The LAW kills those who break it.

The LAW limits how far they can travel on Saturday.

The LAW says ‘Gentiles cannot come into the congregation of the Lord.

The LAW requires men to be circumcised.

The LAW forbids women to teach, or come into the inner courts of the tabernacle or place of worship. They must stand on the OUTSIDE.

Now, there are many more restrictions under the law; they are absolute COMMANDS. You must obey or be killed; that is IF YOU CHOOSE TO BE UNDER THE LAW.

But I will only list these now; you can find many other, if you try.

GRACE — says, Peter you are to be blamed; for you eat with the Gentiles when the Jews are not here; but when they come, because they keep law, and therefore, say you cannot fellowship with Gentiles, therefore, you are breaking fellowship, because you think you are still under that LAW.

Then Peter came into GRACE — and fellowshipped the Gentiles.

For under GRACE, THE PROMISE OF THE HOLY GHOST IS TO EVERYONE; ALL, THOSE WHO ARE NEIGH = THE JEWS — AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE AFAR OFF = THE GENTILES.

GRACE – says we no longer must circumcise men = there is no difference; it does not matter now; it matters not if you are circumcised or not circumcised – this carries no weight in GRACE. Grace says only have faith in Jesus.

GRACE – says worship God and Work seven days a week; do it all the same; each day is just alike; work while it is day; work each and every day; preach daily.

GRACE –says all meats are now sanctified by prayer and nothing to be refused; for those strong in faith know they can eat anything.NOTHING is forbidden under GRACE; GRACE know those WEAK in faith = under law– eat only herbs. Those who know the TRUTH = GRACE— know every creature of God is good and nothing to be refused. Those under law still have to abstain from certain meats.

GRACE —says they can marry whom ever they please; for to God we are all one.

GRACE–says everyone can now enter into the place of worship and worship alike. There are no restrictions.

GRACE –says worship anywhere; everywhere; worship all the time; anywhere, anyplace; do it in spirit and truth — the days are come that the TRUE worshippers will not worship in this mountain; nor yet at Jerusalem; there is no certain place.

Glory to God, we are FREE.

LAW said stone her; BUT GRACE said neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.

LAW said SHE cannot teach; but GRACE SAID THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE IN CHRIST —— IN GRACE, YOU ARE IN CHRIST —- IN LAW YOU ARE IN MOSES’ HOUSE-

IN GRACE, THERE IS NEITHER JEW NOR GREEK —– THEY MAY ALL COME IN AND WORSHIP THE SAME GOD.

IN GRACE WOMEN CAN TEACH, PASTOR, PROPHESY, PREACH,

IN GRACE THERE IS NEITHER MALE NOR FEMALE.

GRACE says the Holy Ghost is your REST —– NO MORE SATURDAY SET-ASIDE EVERYDAY IS THE SAME TO GOD AND THOSE UNDER GRACE.

Oh thank you my Holy Jesus, for giving me your unspeakable amazing GRACE!

GRACE, GRACE, MARVELOUS GRACE

GRACE THAT IS GREATER THAN ALL MY SIN; FOR UNDER GRACE IS NO SIN; FOR WHERE THERE IS NO LAW, THERE IS NO SIN.

THANK YOU JESUS FOR MAKING ME FREE; FREE FROM SINS; FREE FROM BONDAGE; FREE TO TEACH YOUR WORD; FREE FROM EVERY YOKE.

JO, IN GRACE, JO HERE TO STAY AND TEACH WHAT HE GIVES ME.

HALLELUJAH

This message shows why it looks as if there are contradictions in the word of God. There are no contradictions; for that would be error; which would be a lie; God cannot lie; just because your finite mind does not understand all this, does not mean there are error in the word. If there are errors, then it is not God’s word; for God cannot lie.

There is a message of law all through the word of God; from the start to the finish.

There is a message of GRACE all through the Word of God; from the start to the finish.

They are opposites; they mean exactly the opposite things. Therefore, they certainly will make it look as if there are contradictions or lies.

That people of God is what is wrong: here; or anywhere else;

Many of us see the GRACE message; we will not be brought back under the bondage of that LAW message.

Many others see that LAW message; and they dare not turn it loose and accept GRACE;

FOR THEY FEAR THAT IF THEY DO NOT DO THE WORKS OF THE LAW, THEY WILL BE LOST.

RIGHT THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE; YOU WILL BE LOST IF YOU GO BACK TO LAW AND FALL FROM GRACE;

THAT IS UNLESS YOU CAN KEEP THE WHOLE LAW WITHOUT BREAKING EVEN ONE COMMANDMENT.

IF YOU BREAK ONE COMMANDMENT, YOU ARE GUILTY OF IT ALL.

IF YOU KEEP LAW, YOU WILL BE JUDGED BY THE LAW.

UNDER GRACE IS NO CONDEMNATION; THEREFORE NO JUDGMENT.

WE ARE TOTALLY FREE. WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE LAW OVER GRACE?

DEATH OVER LIFE?

YET MILLIONS STILL DO JUST WHAT ADAM DID — CHOOSE DEATH.

STILL CHOOSING GRACE WHERE I CAN PREACH OR TEACH OR GO INTO THE SANCTUARY.

Jesus Is My Sabbath

Matt. 11:28 – Come unto ME, all ye that LABOUR and are heavy LADEN, and I will give you REST ( Here Matthew is speaking to those under the law) ( ‘laboring’ is the works of the law; we do not labor for Grace; it is given to us)

Vs. 29 – Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. ( See, if you are in rest, you are not laboring — the law is ‘ works’; laboring.

Vs. 30 – For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. ( Remember, that the old law was only heaviness and hard on them? Jesus changed this and gave us something light and easy to do) Praise God for the victory; for deliverance from that old hard way of life; from that old law.

Now, my dear friend, please take a few minutes of your time to stop and meditate on this. JESUS said come to ME. He did not say come to Saturday. He said come to me and I’ll give you rest. The REST for your SOUL; not rest for your body.

This is where the mix up comes in; you are still in the first covenant; = that of the flesh. The law in the word is referred to as ‘flesh’ This is the one that lines up with the first man Adam. It is the one that God hated= the Essau. He did away with this ‘flesh’ ‘laboring’ covenant. Those people in that covenant never did please God. The law is not of faith; without faith it is impossible to please God. So, why would God require us to go back to that? If it is not of FAITH and you cannot please God without Faith, of what merit would there be in our returning back to thatafter Jesus gives us his rest and faith?

I just do not see how anyone can fail to see this? It is just too plainly taught in the word. Just because we see that we are not under that old law, does not mean that we go out and commit murderer or other sins. No! We go by Commandments of the New Testament. It is Holy living. Those back under that law never did live Holy. He lives In us. He lives his holy life in us. That is the difference. They never had that under the law; neither do you law keepers of today.

Jesus gives us rest to our souls. It is the second heaven. You are still in the first heaven which was done away with, Jesus is our rest. This rest is everyday; not just one day a week. The New Covenant is much more than the old. Jesus said we do not hate; for this Is murder. See, our standards are higher than those of the old. We keep the holy Commandments with the power of the Holy Ghost. But it is not the old law. I know that you cannot see what I am saying; for that old law blinds you.

Gal. 3:11 – But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith

Vs. 12 -And the law is not of faith:
It is a curse: vs. 13– Christ hath redeemed us FROMthe CURSE of the LAW — see? He REDEMMED us FROM theLAW? How much clearer does it need to be? He said it was a curse; he said It is not of faith; he said It cannot justify anyone to keep it. What more do you need?

Our SABBATH is the REST that Jesus GIVES US; IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DO

Vs. 24 – Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

vs., 25 – But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.= ( the law —we are no longer under the law. If you are under the law, you have not yet come to Christ.

The law is bondage: Paul said the same thing.

Gal. 4:24 – Which things are an allegory: for these are theTWO COVENANTS; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. ( Now surely you know that this one is the one Moses got= the 10 Commandments)?—which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar ( Hagar and Ismael- the law = bondage= which is Agar= the one from Mt. Sinai)

Vs. 25 – For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is inBONDAGE WITH HER CHILDREN.

If you are under the law you are one of thechildren of Agar- for you are a ‘child’ of the law= which is bondage. So said the Holy Word of God. (No wonder the law keepers try so hard to discredit the Holy King James Bible

Fall of the Old Testament

Date Posted:12/02/2012 3:17 AMCopy HTML

I am starting a series of messages on one of the most important subjects in the Word of God, a mystery which I have not heard anyone else fully explain, The Fall of the Old Testament,meaning the fall of the old covenant, the law.

I know there are many who see that the law was done away with; but I have not heard anyone call this what God showed me = “the fall of the Old Testament”. There may be many who teach this; I have just not run into them.

It is something which God revealed to me out of the Word. Once you understand this, youwill see it every where you read. You read over it all the time (if you study the Word) but you donot see what is being said; for it is not ‘in the light’ yet to you.

For the beginning of this message, I will use the book of Lamentations. This message is all over the Word; but this is the best starting place. I will only do sections of this great message at a time. This will be a very long and continuous message; so I will only type sections of it at one time. Please, everyone of you, take the time to study this in earnest.

It is of eternal importance to your soul.

Lamentations 1

1 How doth the city sit solitary, that was full of people! how is she become as a widow! she that was great among the nations, and princess among the provinces, how is she become tributary!
2 She weepeth sore in the night, and her tears are on her cheeks: among all her lovers she hath none to comfort her: all her friends have dealt treacherously with her, they are become her enemies.
3 Judah is gone into captivity because of affliction, and because of great servitude: she dwelleth among the heathen, she findeth no rest: all her persecutors overtook her between the straits.

4 The ways of Zion do mourn, because none come to the solemn feasts: all her gates are desolate: her priests sigh, her virgins are afflicted, and she is in bitterness.
5 Her adversaries are the chief, her enemies prosper; for the LORD hath afflicted her for the multitude of her transgressions: her children are gone into captivity before the enemy.
6 And from the daughter of Zion all her beauty is departed: her princes are become like harts that find no pasture, and they are gone without strength before the pursuer.

7 Jerusalem remembered in the days of her affliction and of her miseries all her pleasant things that she had in the days of old, when her people fell into the hand of the enemy, and none did help her: the adversaries saw her, and did mock at her sabbaths.
8 Jerusalem hath grievously sinned; therefore she is removed: all that honoured her despise her, because they have seen her nakedness: yea, she sigheth, and turneth backward.
9 Her filthiness is in her skirts; she remembereth not her last end; therefore she came down wonderfully: she had no comforter. O LORD, behold my affliction: for the enemy hath magnified himself.

10 The adversary hath spread out his hand upon all her pleasant things: for she hath seen that the heathen entered into her sanctuary, whom thou didst command that they should not enter into thy congregation.
11 All her people sigh, they seek bread; they have given their pleasant things for meat to relieve the soul: see, O LORD, and consider; for I am become vile.
12 Is it nothing to you, all ye that pass by? behold, and see if there be any sorrow like unto my sorrow, which is done unto me, wherewith the LORD hath afflicted me in the day of his fierce anger.
13 From above hath he sent fire into my bones, and it prevaileth against them: he hath spread a net for my feet, he hath turned me back: he hath made me desolate and faint all the day.

14 The yoke of my transgressions is bound by his hand: they are wreathed, and come up upon my neck: he hath made my strength to fall, the LORD hath delivered me into their hands, from whom I am not able to rise up.
15 The LORD hath trodden under foot all my mighty men in the midst of me: he hath called an assembly against me to crush my young men: the LORD hath trodden the virgin, the daughter of Judah, as in a winepress.
16 For these things I weep; mine eye, mine eye runneth down with water, because the comforter that should relieve my soul is far from me: my children are desolate, because the enemy prevailed.

17 Zion spreadeth forth her hands, and there is none to comfort her: the LORD hath commanded concerning Jacob, that his adversaries should be round about him: Jerusalem is as a menstruous woman among them.

18 The LORD is righteous; for I have rebelled against his commandment: hear, I pray you, all people, and behold my sorrow: my virgins and my young men are gone into captivity.
19 I called for my lovers, but they deceived me: my priests and mine elders gave up the ghost in the city, while they sought their meat to relieve their souls.
20 Behold, O LORD; for I am in distress: my bowels are troubled; mine heart is turned within me; for I have grievously rebelled: abroad the sword bereaveth, at home there is as death.
21 They have heard that I sigh: there is none to comfort me: all mine enemies have heard of my trouble; they are glad that thou hast done it: thou wilt bring the day that thou hast called, and they shall be like unto me.
22 Let all their wickedness come before thee; and do unto them, as thou hast done unto me for all my transgressions: for my sighs are many, and my heart is faint.

Let’s take this book a verse at a time. Do not attempt to ‘judge’ this message at the start; instead study it as I find time to do a section; pray for the truth to be opened up to you. Wait and study the next section, etc. until I post all of this book. Then, I will give many more Scriptures proving this message

. This is the most exciting message I know of. I fully believe this is the greatest message given to man since the days of Paul.

Verse one

: the city sitting solitary is the Old Testament. Please understand that when I say ‘the Old Testament’ I am NOT meaning the written Scriptures called the Old Testament: no, I mean the Old Covenant, which is the Old Testament. The Scriptures contain the Old Testament; but the Testament refers to the Covenant he made with the Israelites under Moses.

’She’ became as a widow — why? Because God forsook her.

Verse two

: all her friends dealt treacherously with her, they became her enemies. Who are her ‘friends’? The people who once were faithful to the laws – to the old Covenant. These include Peter, James, John, Paul, and all the other New Testament Christians who came out of the law into Grace. Those who were filled with the Holy Ghost on the Day of Pentecost.

Verse three

: her persecutors overtook her between the straits — the straits meant her ‘way’ of serving God had been done away with. Her persecutors were the New Testament ministers; the ones mentioned above. Why are they ‘persecuting’ her? Because they are fervently trying to bring her people into the New Covenant of Jesus’ blood.

Verse four

: Her ways ‘mourn — because God forsook that. None come to the solemn feasts of the OT anymore; it is done away with as far as God is concerned. It is forsaken by God and the true people of God, the Christians. Her ‘gates’ are desolate = meaning, no one can now come to God through the ‘gates’ or way of the OT covenant. Her priests sigh, because they are not the ministers of God anymore.

verse five

: her adversaries are the chief = Paul, Peter, James, and all the other NT ministers. They are her adversaries and they are the chief ones God is now using. Her enemies (them) prosper— why? Because God is with them—they are the ones now bringing people into the Kingdom of God; they are the ones bearing fruit; not the OT.

Her children went into captivity before the enemy—- who is this enemy? The NT Church. So, ‘her’ children were the ones who received Pentecost. Did not Peter say this promise of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost was to your ‘ children’? Did he not say Elias would come and turn the hearts of the ‘fathers’ (the OT group) to the Children (the NT group)? Did not Jesus say this was John The Baptist?

So, their ‘children’ are those who received the Holy Ghost at Pentecost.

v6

–No beauty is left to the OT. Her princes are like harts who find no PASTURE. In other words, there was no longer any ‘spiritual food’ in the OT Covenant— no one could find God here anymore. They have no strength before their pursuers = the NT ministers seeking to convert them to Jesus.

v7

—(very important verse)—The adversaries (Peter, Paul, etc)- did MOCK AT HER SABBATHS.

v8

—Jerusalem (OT) hath GRIEVOUSLY SINNED; therefore she is REMOVED: all that honoured her despise her, because they see her NAKEDNESS; ( no spirit of God to Cover her sins). She sigheth and turneth backward. She fell backward = those who refused to come into the NT Covenant and forsake the Old Way of the law.

v9

–she had no comforter = she did not have the Holy Ghost = which Jesus said was our comforter. Her enemy = Jesus= hath magnified himself.

v11

–her people are seeking ‘bread’ = truth of Word= (Jesus is the truth = his teachings)—she became vile.

v 12

–the Lord afflicted her in the day of his fierce anger = when she refused Jesus and the Holy Ghost = the NT.

v13

–He turned her back: he made her desolate.

Isaiah 28:7-18

–this tells of the coming Baptism of the Holy Ghost evidenced with speaking in the tongues God had scattered before—those who refused this TRUE REST, v13, fell BACKWARD. That is what is being spoken of here, that she fell backward. She refused the NT.

v20

Her ’bed’ is too short; = her resting place – the old Sabbath. Her covering too narrow to cover with = the Law, instead of the Holy Ghost.

v14

–God made the strength of the OT Law to fall. He delivered them into THEIR (apostles) hands, from whom I am not able to rise up.

Verse 15

:–Notice, this said The Lord hath trodden under foot all my mighty men—- He called an assembly against me to crush my young men: the LORD hath trodden the virgin, the daughter of Judah–

See, here God did this to the OT. HE trod them under foot; he crushed them. Now, I saw something here I had not realized before: that ‘virgin’ here is those ‘foolish’ virgins. Remember there were two = 5 foolish and 5 wise. One was saved; the other one was lost; But, remember that the foolish ones had, at one time had a light. This is when God dealt with the OT.

v16:

This is MIGHTY! “the comforter that should relieve my soul is far from me: (meaning they did not receive the Holy Ghost, which is the comforter.) “My children are desolate, because the enemy prevailed.”

This means the OT children were left; this is set into motion when Jesus wept over Jerusalem and said, “behold, your house is left desolate”. They are ‘desolate’ because they did not come over into the New Covenant and God left them in their darkness.

v17

—This shows again that they did not have the comforter, the Holy Ghost. The LORD commanded that his adversaries (the apostles and disciples) should be round about him; Jerusalem, the law is shown as an unclean woman.

v18

—Shows that this OT group rebelled against his COMMANDMENT. Notice that this is a single COMMANDMENT; NOT COMMANDMENTS, AS IN THE TEN.

This is the new commandment of LOVE. They rebelled against this; for it is done by the Spirit of God; not our own works of keeping the law. They wanted to be ‘saved’ by their own works; not the finished ‘work’ of Jesus at Calvary.

v19

—Her ‘lovers’ (those who love the law)–the priests and elders of the OT, deceived her. They gave up the ghost in the city, while they sought their ‘meat’ to relieve their souls. See, there was no longer any ‘food’ in that old law; so they starved to death, SPIRITUALLY.

v20

–Shows that ‘at home’ = in the old Covenant, there is only DEATH.

v21

—This is powerful!! Again showing she had no comforter; all her ‘enemies’ = the apostles, and NT Christians, are GLAD THAT THOU HAST DONE IT. Yes, they and we are glad that God did away with that old way of serving God; a way where death was the immediate punishment for failing.

BUTTTTTTTTTT———- BUT—watch this next sentence; it is prophecy for the day when this modern day, polluted church, which rebelled against God the same as that OT bunch did, will be punished as they were: thou wilt bring the day that thou hast called, and THEY, (who? her enemies, the church)—shall be like unto me.

There you have it: prophecy that God will also do away with this polluted church and make her just like he made that old polluted law group.

v22

—This is the continuation of that prophecy; this is great:

Let all their wickedness come before thee; and do unto them, as thou hast done unto me for all my transgressions: for my sighs are many, and my heart is faint.

What was the wickedness of the OT group? Serving idols. So, this is where the church today is polluted: with idols. Even today, that whole church world is messing with idols; they are out there deceiving little children instead of teaching them truth of God— they take them into idols such as worshipping ‘rabbits’, eggs, the rising sun, and all such foolishness. You say, we do not worship these things??? Yes you do!!

Even just honoring these things amounts to worship. All you have to do is just gaze at something in admiration for it to be worship.

Look up the word, ‘regard’ and you will see. In Jonah we are told that if you regard lying vanities, you forsake your own ‘ mercy’. So look up ‘regard’ and ‘vanities’; you will find it is such things as Santa Claus and Easter bunnies and eggs.

You are filled with idolatry. You are full of wickedness. You reject the New Covenant which God loved and in your heart returned back to the Old Covenant, which he hated.

God brought a ‘woman’, his wife, Israel— out of EGYPT –( a type of sin; of evil; or worldliness; and of the LAW). But then, he said, in their hearts they TURNED back into Egypt.

Then he put the Law into a deep sleep (Isa. 29) and took a rib out of that dead law = Jesus in the grave— and from that he made a ‘woman’ = the Church. Jesus was part of the law; he was made under the law; he was part of the OT— the Esau– but,—— God took him ‘out’ of that old way, put them into a deep sleep (Isa. 29:10)– and took Jesus out of there = the resurrection.

Jesus did not ‘resurrect’ back into that old law; or the OT. No!!! No!!! No. He resurrected into a NEW DAY. He resurrected into the NT. He resurrected into GRACE not LAW.

He became the HEAD of a woman = the Church — or Eve. The MOTHER OF US ALL –the MOTHER of all LIVING. = those with the life of the Holy Ghost.

But, at the end of this age (the Laodicean Church) once again, they turned BACK in their hearts to the LAW, from which God had delivered them. They turned BACK into Egypt. So they, too, will be left DESOLATE.

When they brought that old LAW into the church, it made them desolate. They set this abomination up in the church and it polluted them as it had polluted that old T. Group.

Back to that last verse: she said my heart is ‘faint’. This is meaning she could not go on with God. In Isaiah we are told that those who wait on the Lord shall renew their ‘strength’ and not ‘faint’. This is what it means = not fall away from the move of God for our day.

People, there is a very important ‘principal’ in the whole Word of God. It is this: the elder shall serve the younger.

Remember, that is says —- God HATED

Esau —– but LOVED Jacob?

God said the elder = Esau, shall serve the younger = Jacob—- but what does it really mean? Much, much more than the lives of these two men.

They are only ‘types’ of what this really means. We are to ‘read’ the types and shadows of the OT and find the true, spiritual meaning. All of the OT were these types.

Esau represents: Jacob represents:

1. Adam & Satan 1. Eve & Jesus

2. the flesh 2. The Spirit

3. the law 3.Grace

3. Sin 4.Rightneousness

5. the OT 5.N.T

6. the foolish virgins 6. the wise virgins

7. the rebellious 7. the obedient

Read the book of OBADIAH.

This is speaking of ‘Esau’ and ‘Jacob’; but notice, that this book was written thousands of years after the men Esau and Jacob lived; so this book of prophecy could not be speaking of things concerning those two earthly men. They only ‘type’ something: they type the OT and the NT.

Once you this, you will find that this is taught from Gen. through Revelation

Choose Blessings or Cursings PT-5


msn-freeborn551 wrote on Jul 10, ’07
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From: joie
Sent: 2/14/2004 7:27 PM
 Now at first glance, just reading casually along, one would think that verse 9 is speaking of the covenant of the law given to Moses. But a closer look will show that is it speaking of the covenant given to ABRAHAM, to Isaac and to Jacob. This covenant is the covenant of Jesus; grace. This is the everlasting covenant. Abraham was never under law. Paul plainly said that the seed of Isaac was Christ. So Moses is telling them here to keep the word of the grace Covanant so they could prosper. This is the blessing covenant. Law is the cursing covenant. So they would not be blessed to prosper under law.
See then that verse 13 is saying to the people of the grace covenant that he will establish THEM today for a people unto himself. He never established those law people as his people. People, all who may ever read this, I do hope and pray that you can ‘hear’ the truth of this message. The true Christians are the only ones God ever chose as a peculiar people for Himself! These Scriptures, rightly divided as they are today in this message, solidly PROVES this forever. Thank you Holy Lord Jesus for this great and powerful message.
Now go back and carefully read verses 14 & 15. God said not only with those people there that day, but with those who were not there with them that day did He make this covenant. Those not there with them that day were the faith people. This is proven in the message Two nations in one. So this proves it is the grace covenant. God never established the law covenant with us.
De 29:16 (For ye know how we have dwelt in the land of Egypt; and how we came through the nations which ye passed by: 17 And ye have seen their abominations, and their idols, wood and stone, silver and gold, which were among them:): 18 Lest there should be among you man, or woman, or family, or tribe, whose heart turneth away this day from the LORD our God, to go and serve the gods of these nations; lest there should be among you a root that beareth gall and wormwood;
Here he told them that they had seen all the idols of wood and stone (buildings) and silver and gold among the heathen and if they go turn to those idols and serve those gods of the nations; they will bear gall and wormwood. This is part of the plagues in Revelation. The churches have picked up on all of these idols. So…
De 29:19 And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst: 20 The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven.
This in 19 is the people who claim that they sin all they want to and are still Christians. They say they can worship all the idols of the heathens which the Catholic Church brought into the church from all the nations around them, and still have the peace, or salvation of God. This will cause God not to spare him but He will bring all the CURSES of His Book upon that person. And He will blot his name out from under heaven. So this means the person who assumes peace in such a condition is headed for hell. Read Psalms 149. It tells how the true Saints of God will pour out all the judgments written in the Book upon the sinners.
:24 Even all nations shall say, Wherefore hath the LORD done thus unto this land? What meaneth the heat of this great anger? : 25 Then men shall say, Because they have forsaken the covenant of the LORD God of their fathers, which he made with them when he brought them forth out of the land of Egypt: 26 For they went and served other gods, and worshipped them, gods whom they knew not, and whom he had not given unto them: 27 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against this land, to bring upon it all the curses that are written in this book: 28 And the LORD rooted them out of their land in anger, and in wrath, and in great indignation, and cast them into another land, as it is this day.
Verse 25– this said that they forsook the covenant of the LORD God, which he made with those who came out of Egypt. Now at the first of the message I showed how this means the Covenant of Abraham; for the covenant of Moses was not given at that time. And because they turned and worshipped idol gods of the nations around them, God turned his hot anger against them and destroyed them. He drove them into another land = the land of Grace. This was their only hope for Salvation. This is the condition of the polluted church of Laodicia today. They are lukewarm, naked, blind and wretched, miserable and rich in goods but naked to God. Doesn’t sound like a people under blessings of God does it? Why are they in this condition? Because they went back to law; to worshipping idols. Idols are the sign of being under law. Under Grace we worship the Lord our God and Him only.
No other people can do this. No other people are under grace. If you worship idols you are under law and headed to destruction. The Word of God here in this extensive message has clearly warned you to flee the wrath to come.
Ex 2:23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage. : 24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob. : 25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.
See that God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob here in Egypt. This is the grace Covenant. It is the life covenant. Abraham had the blessing of God. There are no blessings under the death, law covenant of Moses. Now verse 25 says that this is the reason God had respect unto these Israelites. He was looking at the Grace People who would come from this nation of Israel. This is Paul, Peter, Jesus and us.
Ex 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. : 4 And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers. : 5 And I have also heard the groaning of the children of Israel, whom the Egyptians keep in bondage; and I have remembered my covenant. : 6 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments: 7 And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians. : 8 And I will bring you in unto the land, concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob; and I will give it you for an heritage: I am the LORD.
Now this is a powerful proof of the truth of this message. God said he appeared unto Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He established his covenant with them to give them the land of Canaan. So this Canaan is the spiritual land of the New Jerusalem. God is not speaking carnal here. It is spiritual. Canaan is only a type; an earthly name for the true City of God. This covenant with Abraham is the one He keeps saying all the way through the Scripture that he remembered and had respect unto; not the law covenant. The people he rids of the bondage of Egypt are those who get free of law. This is the bondage. Egypt holding them was only a type of the law having its people under heavy bondage. Jesus came to set us all free of this bondage. Only those who go free are the ones God took to himself for a people. The nation of Israel, under law, was only a ‘carrier’ of this true Seed of Jesus.
Ex 19:3 And Moses went up unto God, and the LORD called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel: 4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto myself. : 5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: 6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
 
Verse 4– God bares them on eagles’ wings. This is the fourth condition of the True Church. So he brought the Christians unto himself on the eagles’ wings. So the covenant he is telling them to keep is the one to Abraham, grace. These are the peculiar treasures to God above all people. This true Church is the kingdom of priests and the holy nation. Read in Peter how he told those who had once not been a people that they are now the holy nation to God. This was the Gentile Christians; all Christians.
Ex 34:12 Take heed to thyself, lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither thou goest, lest it be for a snare in the midst of thee: 13 But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves: 14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: 15 Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice :16 And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods. 17 Thou shalt make thee no molten gods.
In verse 13 we are told to destroy their altars of idols, break their images and cut down their groves. So this is the job of all true Christians. We must break down the idols in this church world and around us. We must speak out against this evil to tear down the walls of Babylon. That is why I speak out against this idolatry so much. See the groves? All those x-mass trees. Sure. When you eat your x-mass dinners, and all these other festivities, you are eating of the idol sacrifice. It is a snare to your soul. Verse 17– make no molten gods. Do you realize what molten means? Things made by melting and casting. IN other words these factory made idols of Santa, reindeers, skeletons, and all the other things you use in your celebrations.
It also means having warmth or brilliance; glowing. Sound familiar? It is all those x-mass lights you string up!
So where are you with your idols? By the way I got those meanings out of my Webster’s. I did not make this up. Check it for yourself.
Ex 24:5 and he sent young men of the children of Israel, which offered burnt offerings, and sacrificed peace offerings of oxen unto the LORD. : 6 And Moses took half of the blood, and put it in basins; and half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar. : 7 And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the LORD hath said will we do, and be obedient. : 8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you concerning all these words.
Now this Scripture is here to prove that the law covenant was only sanctified by the blood of animals. This never changes. If you are under law today, you are under the blood of animals, even though you never kill one. That is why you feel you are still a sinner. You are! The blood of animals cannot take away your sins. So if you stay under law, you will never be free of your sins and you will be lost.
Ex 34:27 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel. : 28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
Now this solidly proves that the law Moses wrote for a covenant with Israel was the Ten Commandments. This is the covenant of law and death. It is curses. The commandments of the Apostles are the covenant of Grace. Only through the method given on the Day of Pentecost can one have grace or salvation. You find me another way if you think there is one. Abraham was never given any Ten Commandments!
Now for one last Scripture. This is beautiful.
Le 24:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Command the children of Israel, that they bring unto thee pure oil olive beaten for the light, to cause the lamps to burn continually.
 
 

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From: joie
Sent: 2/14/2004 7:35 PM
 Now for one last Scripture. This is beautiful.
Le 24:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Command the children of Israel, that they bring unto thee pure oil olive beaten for the light, to cause the lamps to burn continually.
This represents the crucifixion of Jesus. He was the pure olive oil, which was beaten for a light to cause the lamps (the churches) to burn continually.
Le 24:3 Without the veil of the testimony, in the tabernacle of the congregation, shall Aaron order it from the evening unto the morning before the LORD continually: it shall be a statute forever in your generations. : 4 He shall order the lamps upon the pure candlestick before the LORD continually. : 5 And thou shalt take fine flour, and bake twelve cakes thereof: two tenth deals shall be in one cake. : 6 And thou shalt set them in two rows, six on a row, upon the pure table before the LORD. : 7 And thou shalt put pure frankincense upon each row, that it may be on the bread for a memorial, even an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Notice the word Pure keeps appearing. This is the true Holiness of the Lord. The pure table is the true Word of God, rightly divided and revealed. The pure candlesticks are the true Church. This bread is the true Word of God we are to eat.
:8 Every Sabbath he shall set it in order before the LORD continually, being taken from the children of Israel by an everlasting covenant. : 9 And it shall be Aaron’s and his sons’; and they shall eat it in the holy place: for it is most holy unto him of the offerings of the LORD made by fire by a perpetual statute.
See that this is done on every Sabbath. This is the true rest to the soul given by Jesus. This is the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. This is the only everlasting covenant. The law covenant has been done away with. This is solidly taught in 11Cor. 3 and in Hebrews.
So Aaron represents the NT Priests. We are the only ones who ever ate the pure bread in the holy place, the Holy Ghost. See in Hebrews it said the way into the Holiest of all was not made manifest while that first tabernacle was yet standing. This means the OT law and the literal body of Jesus had to fall before we could ever enter into the Holy place.
This offering made by fire by a perpetual statute is the Baptism of fire. This Holy Ghost and Fire is established by God to last forever. This is the everlasting covenant given to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and to those of us who live by faith. Not of works, lest any should boast.
Jesus said Lu 5:39 No man also having drunk old wine straightway desireth new: for he saith, The old is better.
So now I know everyone is used to the old way of thinking and say that Old Israel, that law nation, was the chosen of God. They all seem to think that they are still His Chosen people and that there is something holy about the natural Jerusalem. So I know that this ‘new wine’ or revelation is not going to be very acceptable to anyone at the first. But just sip on it. Let it have time to soak in. You will find this entire message is totally true with the written Word of God.
By: Jo Smith— Feb. 13, 2004
 
Ok, this is it.  My last and marvelous revelation.  I know this is extreemly long.  but I am telling you it is worth it to study this.  This is something the whole world has missed and has wrong.  The truth is solidly proven and most marvelour.  I hope it will be a blessing to someone.
 

Choose Blessings or Cursings PT-4

. 31 And I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation, and I will not smell the savour of your sweet odours. : 32 And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies, which dwell therein, shall be astonished at it. : 33 And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.
Those who refuse to eat the flesh or words of their sons and daughters he will destroy them and scatter them among the heathen (those who worship idols.) The desolation pronounced by Jesus comes upon them, both the OT and the disobedient church.
:34 Then shall the land enjoy her Sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies’ land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her Sabbaths. : 35 As long as it lieth desolate it shall rest; because it did not rest in your Sabbaths, when ye dwelt upon it.
This is wonderful. After Jesus makes that old Jerusalem desolate, their land shall then enjoy her Sabbaths as long as it lies desolate. This is because they are forsaken under law and brought into the New Covenant by which it has the true rest. If they are dead to the law, (desolate) then they will have the true rest. They had no rest under the law, as when they dwelt upon the land of law.
:36 And upon them that are left alive of you I will send a faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies; and the sound of a shaken leaf shall chase them; and they shall flee, as fleeing from a sword; and they shall fall when none pursueth. : 37 And they shall fall one upon another, as it were before a sword, when none pursueth: and ye shall have no power to stand before your enemies. 38 And ye shall perish among the heathen, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up. : 39 And they that are left of you shall pine away in their iniquity in your enemies’ lands; and also in the iniquities of their fathers shall they pine away with them.
This is saying that those over in the land of the enemy, the church, who are still alive to the Law (Rom. 7) will fall before the sword of the Word and pine away in their iniquity [because they refused the Holy Ghost to cleanse them] and they shall have no power before the enemy, the Christian ministers.
:40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me: 41 And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
Confess means to admit sin and repent. This is where Adam failed, he would not confess but he blamed Eve for his sin. This is saying for those who walked contrary to God by rejecting the Grace covenant, that if they will repent of this, humble their hearts and accept the circumcision of the heart, the Holy Ghost, [see the hardness of their heart was holding to that law; so to humble their hearts they must accept Jesus and NT Salvation by faith alone; without the works of the law.]
:42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
See He is talking here about the covenant with Abraham and Jacob, not the covenant with Moses and those law people. He also says that He will remember the land. What land? The Heavenly City he promised to Abraham and his seed. If these rebellions law people will humble their hearts and accept grace, then He will bring them into the Holy Land of Grace and salvation.
:43 The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her Sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes.
This is speaking of the land of law, which Jesus pronounced as desolate. They had despised the judgments of God according to the grace law. They hated the teachings of the Apostles. This is the commandments of the New Testament, which they hated because it excluded their self-righteous works of the law and included all people of the world.
:44 And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God. : 45 But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the LORD. : 46 These are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made between him and the children of Israel in mount Sinai by the hand of Moses.
This is saying that when they are in the land of the New Testament, God will not cast them away to break his covenant with them which he made to Abraham, not Moses. See verse 45 says that this is the covenant of their ancestors whom he brought forth out of the land of Egypt. Remember the word shows that the law covenant of Moses had NOT been given at this time of the Exodus from Egypt.
Now for a shocker: he said these are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made with them by the hand of Moses. So? He showed them there to obey the covenant of Abraham and live. Remember from the Two-Edged Sword, that both covanants were written upon those stones. The law was written on the front side, and Grace was written on the backside. They were told to keep the Grace Covanant. But they rebelled and kept the works of the law. The reason? They worshipped idols. Yes, idols are the separating line between the true children of God and children of Satan. The ones who worship idols go by law. You CANNOT worship idols and be in Grace.
God will not grant grace or mercy; forgivness to those who worship idols. Remember Peter said we believe that we (Jews) shall be saved as they [the grace people].
De 30:1 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath driven thee: 2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul: 3 That then the LORD thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the LORD thy God hath scattered thee.
The blessing and the curse came upon them. The blessing came upon those who walked according to the grace covenant of faith. There are no curses under this covenant, for it is sanctified by the blood of Jesus by which we have NO SIN. But the curse came upon all who refused Jesus’ salvation and clung to law. There are no blessings under this covenant. All the blessings come under the grace covenant. Remember this is the tree of life. The law is the death tree. So life is a blessing and death is a curse. God said that if they will return to God and obey his voice to accept faith and Jesus’ blood, then He will turn away their captivity. This happened on the Day of Pentecost. He regathered them to himself there. Since then, all who come in by grace are accepted of God and gathered to him. He reconciled the world to himself by Jesus Christ, not by law.
De 30:4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee: 5 And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers. : 6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. : 7 And the LORD thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.
The outmost parts of heaven means the law, for it was the cut off part. So if one is driven by their leaders into deception and led back to law, but they truly are children of God, then God will bring them back to grace, the land of Abraham. This is the freedom Jesus set us free to possess. We are not to be ruled over by anyone except God himself. See it proves this by saying God will circumcise their heart. This is the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Paul plainly taught this. God will put all these curses upon our enemies, which are the law people, the fleshly people who persecute the Christians. The Jews who clung to law were the main ones who persecuted the Christians. Later after they set up the Catholic Whore Church they again persecuted the Christians. All who persecute the Christians, God will persecute them. Paul also taught this.
De 30:8 And thou shalt return and obey the voice of the LORD, and do all his commandments which I command thee this day: 9 And the LORD thy God will make thee plenteous in every work of thine hand, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy land, for good: for the LORD will again rejoice over thee for good, as he rejoiced over thy fathers: 10 If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul.
This says that when they return and obey the Lord and his commandments He will bless all their works. Blessings are not under the law covenant. This may look as if it means the Law of Moses, but the next verses prove it is not. It is the grace commandments given by the Apostles. Remember that law nation never did serve God with all their hearts. They worshipped idols.
:11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off. : 12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? : 13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it? : 14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.
Ro 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (That is, to bring Christ down from above:): 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (That is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) : 8 but what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. : 10 for with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Now compare these two Scriptures. It is saying the same thing. So here Paul was quoting from Deut. 30: 11-14. So this PROVES that the commandment God was speaking of in verse 8-10 is the New Testament law of faith in Jesus = life in Christ Jesus, not the works of the OT Law of Moses. See this is how to separate these two covenants in the Word. This failure to rightly divide these Scripture is the main thing, which has plunged the World into darkness and thinking the Natural Jews and the natural Jerusalem, and that law is still the chosen thing of God. See this message solidly proves that IT NEVER WAS.
:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil: 16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
Verse 15- God had set before everyone, those in Moses’ day and those today, life and good, [grace; faith in Jesus] and death and evil [law; flesh works]. These are the two covenants, = law and grace; life and death. Life has never come by law. Paul solidly teaches this. He said if a law could have been given which could give life then verily life should have come by law. But it is impossible for we cannot do enough works to merit us salvation. It can only come by His grace and mercy. This is pure faith being counted unto us for righteousness; not works of the law.
So then this also proves that the commandments, statutes and judgments He is speaking of is the NT commandments given by the Apostles of Jesus and not the law given by Moses. That law could never give blessings and life. But the commandments and judgments of the Apostles did and have. 

Choose Blessings Or Cursings- PT.2


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From: joie
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:64- And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
Here God tells them that he will scatter them among all people. This was during the church age. They fell among all the churches. Here they again worshipped the wood and stone gods of man-made temples. Their fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did not ‘know’ these gods.
:65- And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
He is calling these seven churches the nations now. Here they do not find rest just as their fathers in the OT law did not find rest. Heb. 4 declares that Jesus never gave them rest. So as the church rejected the true Rest of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and refused the speaking in tongues which Isaiah 28 declares is the refreshing and the rest to the soul, they again do not find rest. Jesus said come unto me and I will give you rest to your soul. They refused to come to Jesus. So they never had anything except trembling heart and sorrow.
:66- And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:
Here it tells the condition of the church ‘Israelites’ that they doubt for their eternal life. They never have any true assurance that they have life, so the fear day and night.
:67- In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! And at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! For the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
In the ‘morning’, the time of the birth of the Church at Pentecost, (this is the dawning of the New Day of Grace) they wish it were even, or at the latter part of the OT. But at the even of the Church, the time of the last true Church, the second anointed witness of God; they receive their second judgment and pouring out of the wrath of the Lamb. So they wish now that it was morning and they could start over and find true rest.
:68- And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
This is their final destruction as they have let the ‘ships’ of the ‘church’ take them back into Egypt, or bondage = the law.
Now I will show you the two different covenants in these same Scriptures.
De 5:1- And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. 5:2- The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.5: 3- The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day.
Here we find that God said this covenant was made with not with their fathers, = Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. It was made with those of them alive that day as Moses spoke to them. This is that covenant given to them in Horeb.
Ge 9:8- And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
: 9- And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
: 10- And with every living creature that is with you, of the fowl, of the cattle, and of every beast of the earth with you; from all that go out of the ark, to every beast of the earth.11- And I will establish my covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.
: 12- And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:
: 13- I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. 14- And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud: 15- And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh. 16- And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.
Now this shows that God had established the everlasting Covenant with Noah and every living creature. So what is this everlasting Covenant? It is Grace.
Ge 6:8- But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
So see by grace Noah escaped the judgment of his day. By grace, when Jesus died on the cross he cleansed the whole world; every living creature was now clean.
In Genesis 17 we find that God established the everlasting Covenant with Abraham. But it is not to all the natural seeds of Abraham. Paul bore out that is comes through Isaac into Jesus and then into the true Christians. They are the spiritual seed of Abraham. Paul said if ye be Christ’ then are you Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.
Ge 17:21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year.
This covenant is grace, not the Law of Moses.
In this chapter we find that God gave them a land for an everlasting possession. So this could not be the natural Canaan. They were driven out of that land and scattered. Paul told us that Abraham counted himself a stranger there and looked for a city with foundations [the apostles] whose builder and maker is God. He looked for a Heavenly City, the New Jerusalem. This is the land he gave the true seed of Abraham, the children of faith, those in grace.
Ex 6:2 And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD: 3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them. -: 4 And I have also established my covenant with them, to give them the land of Canaan, the land of their pilgrimage, wherein they were strangers. : 5 And I have also heard the groaning of the children of Israel, whom the Egyptians keep in bondage; and I have remembered my covenant.
Here God told Moses that he had established his covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. So this has to be speaking of the everlasting covenant, Grace. These are the children of Israel with whom God established his promises. This is the true Christians, the seed of Christ. God remembered this Grace covenant and saved this nation because the true seed of Christ was inside this law nation. The Egyptians keeping them in bondage speaks of the law children.
Ex 6:6 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments: 7 And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you a God: and ye shall know that I am the LORD your God, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians. : 8 And I will bring you in unto the land, concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob; and I will give it you for an heritage: I am the LORD. : 9 And Moses spake so unto the children of Israel: but they hearkened not unto Moses for anguish of spirit, and for cruel bondage.
Here Moses told them God would deliver them from the ‘bondage’ = law. But He was speaking to the spiritual seed within that nation (see my message Two nations in one). See then that the bondage or law children did not hear for anguish of spirit and cruel bondage. The true seed hears this deliverance message. He promised to bring them [the promised seed, the Christians] into the land he swore to give to Abraham, which is the New Jerusalem. They entered this promised ‘land’ on the Day of Pentecost, when God’s own Holy Spirit took up residence inside them. Glory! But there is more to come to those who overcome the mixed spirit within the seven churches. This is the final and true heritage of the true Children of Christ = the glorified body at our resurrection. This is to be our true inherited LAND.
I know this is a very long message, and I had thought to place this next part into a separate message because of the length. But I think it best to just go ahead with this. It is just too important to teaching this message of the two covenants. I wish I had the means to put this message into booklet form. It will be long enough for this and should be distributed to many people. But I do not have the means to do such a thing. May God provide for this if it is His Will.
Le 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
This is a positive statement saying that the true children of faith will not set up and serve any idols. The main identification of those under law is that they serve idols. All of your holidays are idols. Your manmade buildings, which you dote so much on, are idols. There are many in most people’s lives. But the true children of God will worship Him and Him only. No idols.
:2 Ye shall keep my Sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD. :3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them; :4 Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. :5 And your threshing shall reach unto the vintage, and the vintage shall reach unto the sowing time: and ye shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely.
The above speaks of both the New Covenant and the Reign of peace of earth.
:6 And I will give peace in the land, and ye shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid: and I will rid evil beasts out of the land, neither shall the sword go through your land. : 7 And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. : 8 And five of you shall chase an hundred, and an hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword. : 9 For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.
This speaks of the true ministers chasing their enemies, those of law and causing them to fall by the sword of the Word and thus bringing them into Grace and life. These are the ones he establishes his everlasting covenant with.
:11 And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you. : 12 And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people. : 13 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright.
Here he speaks of Jesus, his tabernacle. Those who follow him, He will not hate. This is the people of Grace. He walks among us and is our God and we are his true people. He brought us out of bondage = the law. He broke every yoke off his true people. He set both the sons and the daughters free. The above is to the obedient people of grace. The next verses speak to the disobedient ones who cling to law and break his everlasting covenant of grace.
:14 But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments; 15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: 16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. : 17 And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.
Here God speaks to those who did not hear his true judgments and obey his grace covenant but went back to law. They will be slain before the NT Ministers and be ruled over by them.
:18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven (seals) times more for your sins. : 19 And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron and your earth as brass: 20 And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits. : 21 And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues (trumpets) upon you according to your sins.22 I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.
In the above verses God starts the judgments against the OT people who clung to law and refused Pentecost. These are the seven seals in Revelation. These foolish virgins, the false church, clinging to law will yield no fruit for all their labour. They do the works of men, not of God. They build programs and buildings instead of teaching the Word and converting souls to righteousness. So the plagues of Rev. comes upon them. This happens first at the close of the OT. It will repeat at the close of the church.
:23 And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me; 24 Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish you yet seven times for your sins.
Yet repented they not of their sins, so God Brings the seven vials upon them.
:25 And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy.
This is where God avenges those who reject the grace covenant or the blood of Jesus and his mercy. He sends the Sword of the Word upon them and they are delivered into the hand of their enemy, the NT.
:26 And when I have broken the staff of your bread, ten women shall bake your bread in one oven, and they shall deliver you your bread again by weight: and ye shall eat, and not be satisfied.
This is wonderful. The first time I read this and saw what it was saying, I laughed so much I almost fell off my bed.
This is saying that after God has broken the staff of the OT or law bread, that now the ten virgins, the five wise and the five foolish, which is the NT Church, shall now prepare their food for them. Now they cannot eat of the Law of Moses; they must eat of the words of the Apostles.
But since part of the church departs from the truth and walks again after the law, then they became the foolish churches. Thus they are never truly satisfied with this NT Bread. The one oven is the NT. They must feed from the NT teachings. Funny how they thought women could not teach and God makes them eat from these ten women!
:27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me; 28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
Here God becomes furious at those who refuse to walk according to the NT teachings. He again chastises them seven times.
:29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat. : 30 And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you. 31 And I will make your 
 
 
 

Choose Blessings or Cursings

From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 2/14/2004 7:16 PM

~~ Choose, Blessings or Cursing ~~

Today is Friday, Feb. 13, 2004. It is now 5:13AM. May God place His divine presence and power upon this message.

I will start this message in Deuteronomy 28. God is speaking here of the two covenants, law and grace. The more I learn the Word of God the more I see everything in the Book is about these two covenants. They are opposites. One is light, life and power. The other (law) is darkness, death and weak. God set these two covenants before Adam and commanded him not to partake or eat of the law ‘tree’. He said the day you eat of law, that day you will die. Now I know He said the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. But Scripture has to interpret Scripture. Paul said by the law is the KNOWLEDGE of Sin.

So don’t you see by this that he identified that tree as the law?

There are people who teach that sex was this tree; that Eve committed adultery with an animal called the serpent. No Scripture in the entire Book says this. So that is a lie. Nowhere does the Word say by sex or adultery is the knowledge of sin, or good and evil. The entire Scripture teaches that the law is death. We know that the law teaches what is good and evil. The Word said by the law shall no flesh be justified. If you go back to law, you fall from Grace. For by Grace are you saved. No one will ever be saved apart from the Grace of God. Grace is not in that law. The law demands that every disobedience be punished. No forgiveness. No Love, no mercy. No life. Choose this day life or death. Choose whether you will try to serve God by law or will you accept Grace?

Adam had a choice to either stay in Grace where God had placed him, or to go under the law. I will show you here in Isa. 66 what Adam’s sin was:

Isa 66:3 -He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog’s neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine’s blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. :4 -I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them;

This verse shows that because of this sacrificing of animals, God will choose delusions for them and bring their fears upon them. They feared death. It also shows that offering the blood of an ox or lamb, the OT sacrifices, is BLESSING AN IDOL. It was never of God! See that God said men chose this as their own way. Their soul delighted in these abominations of killing, eating, and offering the blood of lambs to God! Shocking, isn’t it? Men chose this killing of animals (Adam) – not God!

Isa 66:17 -They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

Now don’t you see that this is speaking of that tree in the midst of the garden? And that they were trying to sanctify themselves? This was trying to serve God by law. See they killed a pig and ate it; thus starting the animal sacrifices which God never had any pleasure in. This brought death. As they killed this animal and ate its flesh, they also brought death into themselves. They were eating swine’s flesh and the abomination, which was the law. So He said they shall be consumed together, all who do this.

I had not intended to write any of that in this message, but it was placed on my heart, so I do what God tells me to do. I prayed for his leadership and anointing before starting this message. So I know he placed that here. You need to fully understand what law is and how it came into being among men, for that is what this message is about. I know this will be long, but I have learned that is how I like them.

God’s way has never been law. He said they chose their own way and this way leads to death. No one has ever been placed under the law by God. They chose this way for themselves. The Israelites always had a choice of either Grace or law. They were not forced to be under the law. Read my message on the two edged sword. This proves it. The stones Moses had had both the law and grace written upon it. One was on the front side and the other on the backside. The Word of God has both law and grace in it. You may choose either one. But if you choose law, you are choosing death.

If you think you HAVE to tithe, go to church, keep a weekly Sabbath or any of these other things, you have gone to law and there is no life there.

We live a Holy Life by His Spirit, which He has placed in us at the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. We do not become holy by doing things of the law. It becomes our nature of loving righteousness and hating iniquity by His Spirit within us. This is the only way of life.

God made a covenant with Noah to never destroy all flesh with a flood again. Noah had found grace in the eyes of the Lord and was spared this destruction. His family was the only ones saved. This is the grace covenant. Later God gave this grace covenant to Abraham. This was 400 years before He gave the law covenant to Moses. But what I have never heard anyone else teach is that at the same time God also wrote the Grace covenant on the backside of those stones. So they could choose either Grace or Law. Moses chose Grace. He had also found grace in the eyes of the Lord.

The fact that Moses was under grace while administering law to the nation proves that they also could have had grace. But what caused them to be under the law? Worshipping idols. The worship of idols is the separating place between the ones who are saved or under grace and the ones who are under law and lost.

If you worship or honour even one idol this takes you away from the one and only true God. He said you should worship him and him only. Else you are lost, worshipping idols. If you observe x-mas, Easter, Santa Clause, or any other such thing, this is the worship of idols and places you under the law covenant. You must be under either law or grace. There are no in-between grounds. You either worship idols or worship God and Him only.

All of the curses in the Book are under the law. All of the blessings are under the Grace Covenant. So if you go by law and worship an idol you chose the curses. If you reject all idols, such as the holidays, and live by Grace, then you chose the blessings and eternal life.

Now what is hard to see is that both covenants are being spoken of all through the entire Scriptures, from Genesis through Revelation. I will show you how to separate this in this message.

If you will read Deut. 27 and 28 you will see all the curses and the blessings pronounced by God. I have too much else to go into this message to type that here. But you really need to read this to fully understand this message. If you go under the law you absolutely must obey it every bit. No one has ever been able to do that except Jesus. So do not make the mistake of thinking you can. It will only bring the curses and death.

ONLY the blood of Jesus Christ and receiving His Spirit sanctifies us. If you go by law you place yourself under the blood of animals by which can never be forgiveness of sins. This gives you eternal death. If you worship even one idol you will be lost.

De 28:14 -And thou shalt not go aside from any of the words which I command thee this day, to the right hand, or to the left, to go after other gods to serve them. :15- But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

So see from this Scripture that if you go aside to even one idol all the curses will overtake you. So why will you die? Choose life, choose Grace.

De 28:25 -The LORD shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.

This verse shows that at the close of the OT, after Jesus had pronounced them desolate, they were removed into all the ‘kingdoms’ of the earth via the seven churches. That is the kingdoms they were removed into. The seven churches are old Jerusalem in disguise. Among them is some wheat growing until the end of the world.

Verse 26: Their Carcasses (the law) shall be meat or eaten by the fowls of the air (Satan’s kingdom, and the beasts of the earth, Satan’s people.)

De 28:29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee.

This verse shows that those who cling to law after Jesus will be blind at noonday or in grace. They cannot see the good of Grace so they will never be saved.

De 28:30- Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.

This is speaking of the law betrothing a wife (the Bride) yet Jesus, Grace, is the one who actually did take her and bring forth children together. The law or house of Moses was not dwelt in, for it perished. They planted a vineyard or nation for God yet it never did produce the harvest. It perished.

Ro 7:4 -Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

:5 -For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.

:6 -But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

:7- What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

:8 -But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. :9 -For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Now this shows that we must be dead to the law by the body of Christ in order to be married to him.

Notice that verse 5 says that the motions of sins were by the law. This proves that the law was that tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Verse 6 proves that the law is now dead and we should serve in the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter which is that dead law.

Verse 7 proves that without law we will not know sin, proving the law gives us the knowledge of sin or evil.

Verse 8 proves that sin was dead without the law. So law is what brought them into sin.

Verse 9 proves that without the law we were alive or had life. But the commandment brought sin and we died.

So see then how important it is to see and understand the difference in law and grace and to choose grace. If you choose law, you are in sin and dead. You can never be married to Christ so long as you partake of or eat of the law tree.

De 28:31- Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them.

This verse is marvelous in the revelation of it. Thine ‘OX’ shall be slain before thine eyes? What was their ‘OX’? The slain Lamb of God, Jesus Christ. Yes this shows that Jesus was slain right before their eyes and they could not eat of it or receive the benefits. They clung to law and could not eat of that tree of life. Their ass and sheep (the daily sacrifice of their animal sacrifices) was taken away (by the crucifixion of Jesus) before their face and the daily sacrifice was never restored to them to bring them before God.

Their ‘sheep’ (Jesus) was given to their enemies, the Grace People.

De 28:32 -Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the daylong: and there shall be no might in thine hand.

This says that their sons and daughters, those prophesied of in Joel 2, the Pentecostal fathers, were given unto another people, the Gentiles or the ones who came into Grace or the true Church. There was no might or power in the hand of those who clung to law to get their children back.

De 28:33- The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway:

Their fruit was bringing forth Jesus and his disciples. This went to the nation of Grace or the true Church and they were oppressed and crushed always.

De 28:34 -So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.

This shows how they were incensed against the Christians and went to persecute them and destroy them.

De 28:35 -The LORD shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.

Read Isa. One in connection with this verse. Isa 1:4 -Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, and they are gone away backward. :5- Why should ye be stricken any more? Ye will revolt more and more: the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. :6- From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: they have not been closed, neither bound up, neither mollified with ointment :7- Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.

Verse 4 speaks of the condition of old Israel and of the church turned ‘backwards’ to law. It is both history and prophecy. Verses 5 and 6 show that they were the ones spoken of in Deut. that they were smitten from the head to the foot with wounds and sores.

Verse 7 shows their country (law) is desolate. This is spoken of as Jesus said to Jerusalem, behold your country is left unto you DESOLATE. It is both history and prophecy of the final state of the apostate church.

De 28:36- The LORD shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.

This verse proves that the entire nation of old Israel, along with this prophecy here of their setting up a king to rule over them, shall be brought unto another nation, that of the NT Church. There they began again their idol worship of other gods, of wood and stone, their church buildings. They always gloried in their big, fancy buildings. See Matt. 24. Even the disciples at that time were still glorying in their fancy buildings. But Jesus showed what he thought of them by saying not one ‘stone’ will be left upon another which shall not be thrown down. This speaks of that law and also every other stronghold of that OT.

De 28:38 -Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it.

This speaks of their much preaching in the nations into which they have been carried = the many different churches. They sowed much seed but gathered in little. They produced only a few who found the way to eternal life. The locust, the witnesses of Revelation, consumed the most of their seed.

De 28:39 -Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them.

These ‘churches’ of law planted vineyards and took care of them (their church members) but did not produce any real wine (Holy Ghost) nor gather the grapes for the ‘worms’ ate them. These worms are described in Joel one. This was the ministers of the Babylon Church, the whore. These ministers, with their lies, prevented this church from producing a true manchild.

De 28:40 -Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.

They had many churches (olive trees) but could not receive the oil or Holy Ghost, for their olive, the whore church cast his fruit. They deceived the people and therefore could never receive the real anointing.

De 28:41- Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.

Both that law and the whore church (same thing) beget sons and daughters, but each time a true child of God was born there, they could not enjoy them, for they went into captivity to the true Church, the Spirit of God. This also speaks of those early Apostolic Fathers, who were the ‘children’ of that law nation.

De 28:42 -All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.

This is speaking of the locust of Rev. 9, the judgment ministers of God, who consumed the fruit and trees of the land of law.

De 28:43- The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. :44- He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.

The ‘stranger’ means the Christians. They were the stranger and pilgrims in this earth. They were strangers to that law nation. They were lifted up very high above that law group. We were made the head and them the tail.

This was part of the curse pronounced by God to those who rejected his true covenant, Grace.

De 28:45- Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee:

46 -And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.

47 -Because thou servedst not the LORD thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;

48- Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

This shows that because they clung to law all the curses came upon them for a sign and wonder to their children (law folks) forever. Because they did not serve the Lord with joyfulness, but went aside to idols, they now have to serve the enemies, the Christians, but they are in hunger and thirst and in nakedness and in need of all things because no life was in that law covenant. This stranger, their enemies, the Christians, put a yoke of iron (that iron rule in Rev.) on them and destroyed them. This was done by Jesus and then followed by the Apostles and Christians.

Compare this with the description of the last church — naked, blind and in need of all things, thinking they have need of nothing.
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From: joie
Sent: 2/14/2004 7:18 PM
 De 28:49- The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;
A nation from far is the NT Church. They were the ones far off from law. They are shown to have the eagle wings. This tongue they could not understand is the utterance the Holy Ghost does through one when He fills them with the Baptism of the Holy Ghost. Let those of you who claim that it is not the evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost see that it is very prominent throughout the entire Word of God. Now I know that people can ‘speak’ in some kind of stuff and it NOT be the true tongues of the Holy Ghost; but this does not do away with the fact that the Holy Ghost absolutely WILL speak or utter himself, in the unknown tongue of God, when he takes up his abode inside someone.
De 28:50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favour to the young:
Now I know it seems contrary to what everyone believes, but this nation of fierce countenance is the Christians. Yes. They do not regard the person of the old, (that old covenant; or show favour to the young (the seven mixed churches of Babylon.) We do not show partiality either, for that is sin. Equality is the heart of true Christianity.
I will show in another message, hopefully following this one, in Daniel that the king of ‘fierce countenance’ was Jesus and his Apostles. Mainly it was Jesus. He was the one with the ‘dark sayings of old’. This was in his parables. But this will be too much for one message, but for now study this with the idea that this fierce nation is the Christians. I will prove it in the next message.
This message should also be studied in connection with my message on the Two Nations in One and the Two edged Sword. They all go together and explain each other. Also it will need the next one on Daniel 11.
De 28:51 -And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.
:52 -And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
This shows Jesus taking of their fruit and bringing them into Grace. He left them neither Holy Ghost life nor the ability to increase through their animal sacrifices and thus he destroyed them.
Now I will list from the Book of Lamentations, all these ‘gates’ and high and fenced walls they trusted in. Jesus besieged them until they were all destroyed.
La 2:1-How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the day of his anger!
‘Heaven’ means the ones God is dealing with, his anointed ones. So here we see that God was angry with old Israel and cast them down to ‘earth’. In other words, he cast them away from him and divorced them. Now they are the ‘earth’ group. He is no longer dealing with the law people.
La 2:2-The Lord hath swallowed up all the habitations of Jacob, and hath not pitied: he hath thrown down in his wrath the strong holds of the daughter of Judah; he hath brought them down to the ground: he hath polluted the kingdom and the princes thereof.
The Lord destroyed the place of Jacob with no pity. He is now set to do this same thing to them again, as mystery Babylon, the false church. See here that it bears out what was just said in Deut, that he destroyed her strong holds. When He brings one down to the ground, means he no longer deals with them. They are cast away from him. He polluted that whole kingdom of Satan, or the law. Now watch the list of her gates and high walls, her strong holds:
1. The princes.
:3-He hath cut off in his fierce anger all the horn of Israel: he hath drawn back his right hand from before the enemy, and he burned against Jacob like a flaming fire, which devoureth round about. :4-He hath bent his bow like an enemy: he stood with his right hand as an adversary, and slew all that were pleasant to the eye in the tabernacle of the daughter of Zion: he poured out his fury like fire.
He cut off in his anger everything of the power of Israel. His right hand is Jesus. Jesus destroyed that law nation. He became their enemy. He was their adversary.
Now, I want you to know that everything he did to them he also is going to do to the false church, for they are the same. That is why it is said they will be destroyed both root and branch; twice dead; plucked up by their roots, that law.
La 2:5-The Lord was as an enemy: he hath swallowed up Israel, he hath swallowed up all her palaces: he hath destroyed his strong holds, and hath increased in the daughter of Judah mourning and lamentation.
The Lord was their enemy. In this verse we have the second stronghold he destroyed = their ‘PALACES’. This is their fancy temples they doted so much on. Take warning, churches. It also applies to you and your fancy buildings. He will bring this about the second time and destroy you and your big church buildings you set above God. They are an ‘idol’ to you.
:6 And he hath violently taken away his tabernacle, as if it were of a garden: he hath destroyed his places of the assembly: the LORD hath caused the solemn feasts and sabbaths to be forgotten in Zion, and hath despised in the indignation of his anger the king and the priest.
Here we have # 3. His tabernacle. He took this away. He destroyed these places of ‘assembly’. So this shows what he thinks of you saying we must ‘assembly’ into a certain building, when Jesus said we shall not worship that way, but in Spirit and in Truth.
Next–#4. The solemn feasts and #5. Their old Sabbaths. Go back to Isa. One, you will see that he had come to despise these things. It is the same in the ‘church’ today. He despises your solemn get-togethers. No Spirit, no life. There is no power in your churches today to be a ‘WITNESS’ of God. How are you manifesting God to this world?
Next is # 6–their king
#7–their priests.
:7-The Lord hath cast off his altar, he hath abhorred his sanctuary, he hath given up into the hand of the enemy the walls of her palaces; they have made a noise in the house of the LORD, as in the day of a solemn feast. :8-The LORD hath purposed to destroy the wall of the daughter of Zion: he hath stretched out a line, he hath not withdrawn his hand from destroying: therefore he made the rampart and the wall to lament; they languished together.
#8–He cast off his altar and hated his #9–sanctuary He destroyed her entire wall which means everything she was made up of.
:9-Her gates are sunk into the ground; he hath destroyed and broken her bars: her king and her princes are among the Gentiles: the law is no more; her prophets also find no vision from the LORD.
Her ‘gates’ means all of these means of the OT being a way to God, her ‘everything’. These all sunk into the ground. Read Isa. 47 where he tells ‘Babylon’ to come down and sit in the dust. That is what this is speaking of, proving that the whore church is the same as old law nation. He destroyed all her gates and her bars.
#9– He brought down her king.
#10–He did away with her LAW. It is no more.
#11– Her (OT) prophets are also cut off from the Lord. — People today have tried to do away with this decree of God to destroy the OT Prophets and claim that we had an OT Prophet in our day. It is impossible. The last of these was John the Baptist. The Law and the Prophets were UNTIL John. This means that after John there will NEVER be another one. God cut them off and put them into darkness forever.
:10-The elders of the daughter of Zion sit upon the ground, and keep silence
: they have cast up dust upon their heads; they have girded themselves with sackcloth: the virgins of Jerusalem hang down their heads to the ground.
Now I must bring in this one for it shows what God showed me, that it was only the daughters of law who had to keep SILENCE. This proves it right here. It truly means that no one of the law covenant (men or women; for they are one) can speak now. It is only those of us in true Grace (men or women; for we are one) have permission from God to preach and teach His Word. We are the only ones who know the truth. The law blinds one.
De 28:53-And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:
This shows that the ones from the OT who now come to God must ‘eat’ the ‘flesh’ or word of their sons and daughters. This also proves that the daughters of the NT were giving out this heavenly bread, their flesh. It is not speaking of the human bodies. It means the word they taught, the grace message. These are the people who laid siege on that old covenant and distressed them. They put away the OT teachings of law.
:54-So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave. :55-So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates.
:56-The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,
:57-And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.
Strange as it seems, these verses, 54-57, are speaking of those from the OT who had a ‘tender’ heart and not a hard heart of stone, in other words, the law. That law gave people a stony heart. It hardened them. It still does. So they ‘ate’ the ‘flesh’ [spiritual food] of their Pentecostal children which they ‘birthed’. These NT converts came out of that old nation of Israel. So they were their children. In the spiritual straitness or starvation left in the OT, they ate the food of the NT ministers and could not give it to those whom they ‘left’, or the ones who clung to that law.
:58- If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE LORD THY GOD; :59- Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. :60- Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.
:61- Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. :62- And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the LORD thy God. :63- And it shall come to pass, that as the LORD rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the LORD will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it.¨C11C¨C12C¨C13C

The Rock

The New Testament way of serving God is also wrote on the stone and that stone being Jesus Christ. And have ye not read this scripture; The stonewhich the builders rejected is become the head of the corner: Jesus Christ is that stone with the builders rejected and has become the head of thecorner. Is this not the same thing that happened when Moses break the stone and cast it to the ground?  Was this not showing the same thing?   And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chiefcornerstone; This is the foundation that is laid that no other can lay. THE FOUNDATION IS ALREADY LAID. This is a house that is built on a solid stone.The apostles and the prophets BUILT this foundation on Jesus Christ the chief corner stone. To reject the teachings of the apostles is to reject that The chief corner stone, Jesus Christ.  We must not only believe this great apostolic message, but we also must obey this message that the apostles taught.  If not we might as well do as Moses. We just as well cast Jesus Christ that stone to the ground if we do not believe what was taught by the apostles.  We must obey what they taught. Obedience is better than sacrifice. If you are not obeying anything that the apostles taught, again let me say you are casting that chief cornerstone (Jesus Christ) to the ground just as Moses when he came down from off the mountain. We must not only obey this but we must defend and guard it against all distortion or altercation. The apostles original revelation as found in the New Testament can never be may void by later revelation. And believe me there are some out there that would try to draw you from that rock.They will come at you saying that you don’t have to be baptized in the name of Jesus, or that you don’t have to Receive the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues as the spirit gives the utterance. They will tell you anything. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. We must stand on the solid rock Jesus Christ and be able to destroy these false teachings. We are not on miry clay of sinking sand. Neither have we cast the stone to the ground as was done by Moses the first time around. We are on the second stone that was hewn out and was and never be cast to the ground.  We are on the rock that followed the Israelites in the wilderness.  That rock was Jesus Christ. We are drinking from that spiritual rock, not the one that was cast to the ground because that was fleshly, we are drinking from the spiritual cup that will never run dry or be cast to the ground. We are just like a wise man which built his house upon a rock:  We are on the same rock that  Peter was on. I say we, the ones that say that Jesus Christ was the son of the living God.  If you are not on that rock, you are on the rock that was cast to the ground. If you say that Jesus was God you are also on the wrong rock.  That is the rock that was cast to the ground.  Those things that was going on with the Israelites were written for our admonition that we are not  to fall for the rock that was cast to the ground, but we are to stand on the solid foundation the true Rock which is grace by Jesus Christ.    

Romans 7

Romans 7

 1.  Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
 2.  For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
 3.  So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
 4.  Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
 5.  For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
 6.  But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

I feel led of God to do a study on each verse of Romans 7.  This chapter is one of the most mis-understood passages of Scripture if all the Book.

1.  Paul says here that he is speaking to them that know the law.  It is about those under the law.  He said that law has dominion, or control over a man as long as he lives.  So this would appear, at first to mean that there could never be any deliverance from that law; for it would be in force over the man until the man died.

Now for sure, this is how the majority of people still believe about it.  But watch how Paul shows the way to become  FREE FROM  THE  DOMINION OF LAW.

v2–He likens this relationship between men and the law to the marriage of a woman and man.  He said if the husband (the one with the dominion, or rulership, or control) be dead, the woman is then free from the law, free to marry another.

v3–shows she would be an adultress to marry another WHILE her first husband lives.

v4–This is very important.

You are become  DEAD to the law —

how?

By the body of Christ.

What for?

So we can be married  to another (other than the law)– married to Jesus.

By this marriage, or union to Jesus, we can now bear fruit to God.  (Not while we were married to law).

Now get this!  It is very important to see this, to set you free from that law.

You  CANNOT  BE MARRIED  TO JESUS CHIRST SO LONG AS YOU LIVE BY LAW.  YOU ARE THEREFORE  MARRIED TO THAT LAW, AND YOU WOULD BE A SPIRITUAL ADULTRESS TO TRY TO MARRY CHRIST WITHOUT FIRST LETTING THAT LAW BE DEAD TO YOU.

That is very clearly taught right here, Paul’s words,  God’s Words; not mine.

If you try to be married to Jesus yet still married, or alive to law, then you are in sin = adultry.

That law (or first husband) has to be DEAD to you,  BEFORE you can go marry Jesus.

That is why Paul said if you go back to law, Christ is of no effect to you.  You cannot be married, or joined to Chirst and law at the same time; for that is two husbands.

In Hebrews, Paul said Moses was a servant over his own house, or body. 

Jesus is a son over his own house, or body, which is the true Church.

You cannot be part of both.  One must die so the other can live and be your husband.

v5–shows that the motions of sin worked by the law and this brought forth  DEATH.  (he is speaking of to those under law – they are dead).

v6– (very important verse)–Now we are  DELIVERED from the law.

Read that again,  NOW  WE  ARE DELIVERED  FROM THE  LAW,

THAT BEING   DEAD  (see, here he showed the death of that first husband, = law)– it is saying the law is DEAD, that being DEAD wherein we were held (held by law)

The purpose of this death of law, and our deliverance from it —- that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness  (that which waxeth OLD is ready to  VANISH AWAY)–

of the LETTER.  Now this proves the LETTER is that old, dead law.

So, these verses clearly PROVE that one must be dead to the law,  the law dead to you  BEFORE you can marry Chirst.

You are still part of that old body of Moses until that law is dead to you and you are delivered from it.

Jo

Some Things God Hates

Blog Entry
Some things God hates
Aug 29, ’06 10:04 PM

by freeborn22 for everyone
From: Freeborn22  (Original Message)
Sent: 6/29/2006 4:52 PM
~ Some things God hates ~ By: Jo Smith — 6-20-06

Does God love your ‘church’ buildings? Did He ever ask for such? Did He ask David or Solomon to build Him a house? Does God love the Old Covenant? Did He set this up? Did God love their old feasts? Did He ask them to kill animals in sacrifice? Did He love their Sabbaths? Did He set up the priests and prophets to rule over others? Was the Old Testament Covenant of God?
All of these are questions which you need the true answers. Have any of your ‘leaders’ taken the time to study and learn and teach you these important issues? Have you studied to learn this truth?

2Cor 3:7 But if the ministration of death,written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:

Now study the above verse. That law which Moses ministered was DEATH. Did God give them death? Was it His choice? Do you really think so? Was not Adam commanded by God NOT to eat of that tree of death? Sure he was. So then, who was it that opened up this ‘tree of death’? It was clearly, ADAM. God had said the day you eat of that tree, you will DIE. So this tree of the knowledge of good and evil brought them death. It was that LAW. By the LAW is the KNOWLEDGE of sin. (evil).
See that God said the ministration which Moses ministered, written on stones (that law) was DEATH. So this very clearly and without any doubt proves that the law of Moses was the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

Now we know the Word says that God came down and wrote on those stones. But does this mean it was God’s chosen way? No! God had FORBIDDEN this. He had commanded Adam NOT to ‘eat’ or partake of this death tree. The majority of people on down through the ages, since that time, have also chosen law over grace. They chose death instead of life. All who refuse the NT salvation, taught in the Book of Acts, are still choosing death instead of life. This is the vast majority of people.

So then, why did God give that law to Moses? It was imposed upon them, because of their sins in choosing law instead of Grace. Since man chose the law, God gave it to them and showed all peoples of all ages, the dire consequences of eating of this tree of the knowledge of good and evil, the LAW. If you choose law, you are choosing death, eternal death.
So now, in order to show what things are of God, life, and what things are of Satan, death, we must find in the Word, the things which God either loves or hates. We will explore some of these things in this message Keep in mind, that if God did away with a thing, He never did love it or call for it. All things which are truly of God will remain eternally, for God is eternal, and all things which are of God are eternal.

Will that law of Moses remain eternally? No!
2Cor 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ. 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away.

See that Scriptures says that the end of that law of Moses was to be ABOLISHED. This means done away with. It also shows that this law blinded people, even when they ‘read’ it today.
Now, loads of people dote so much on the old Jewish feasts. They think this is the height of the things from God. But is this so? Let the Word show us.

Amos 5:21 – I hate, despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.
Am 5:22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts.
Am 5:23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols.
Now that is strong words. God said I HATE AND DESPISE YOUR FEAST DAYS. Then He made it clear that he does not want their animal sacrifices. But then, he points out that he does not want their songs or music either! Does this pertain to all times? Of course it does. God does NOT CHANGE. If He ever hated these things, he has always hated them and will always hate them. If God hates these things, then it is proof that He never at any time called for them. Is there proof that HE never required these things? Yes! Now I will prove right here that folks hate those of us who speak these truths and rebuke all this evil. God said this:
Amos 5:10 They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly. Am 5:11 Forasmuch therefore as your treading is upon the poor, and ye take from him burdens of wheat: ye have built houses of hewn stone, but ye shall not dwell in them; ye have planted pleasant vineyards, but ye shall not drink wine of them.

Those houses of hewn stone refers to their church buildings. It is not referring to their own homes. God would not be against their having homes of stone. They did not take from the poor to build their own homes. It was deceiving the poor into thinking it is doing God a service to build up those fancy ‘worship’ building, which God calls PALACES. I will prove that God hates those PALACES.

Amos 6:3 Ye that put far away the evil day, and cause the seat of violence to come near; Am 6:4 That lie upon beds of ivory, and stretch themselves upon their couches, and eat the lambs out of the flock, and the calves out of the midst of the stall;
Am 6:5 That chant to the sound of the viol, and invent to themselves instruments of music, like David;
Am 6:6 That drink wine in bowls, and anoint themselves with the chief ointments: but they are not grieved for the affliction of Joseph.
Am 6:7 Therefore now shall they go captive with the first that go captive, and the banquet of them that stretched themselves shall be removed.
Am 6:8 The Lord GOD hath sworn by himself, saith the LORD the God of hosts, I abhor the excellency of Jacob, and hate his palaces: therefore will I deliver up the city with all that is therein.

Now the above Scripture proves that God hated their music, their singing, and their PALACES. God said he abhorred or hated the excellency of Jacob. See, almost everyone thinks God loved those things. But this says that God hated them. He identified right here, those priests eating the animal sacrifices. It also types the modern-day preachers who take from the poor to build up their fancy palaces, churches. These poor Christians are the true ‘sheep’, and those preachers are ‘preying’ off these sheep for their own benefit. God HATES this.
Ps 78:69 And he built his sanctuary like high PALACES, like the earth which he hath established for ever.
This shows that God likens his sanctuary to PALACES.
Isa 23:13 Behold the land of the Chaldeans; this people was not, till the Assyrian founded it for them that dwell in the wilderness: they set up the towers thereof, they raised up the PALACES thereof; and he brought it to ruin.The ‘Assyrian’ types or shows Satan, or Adam. So this shows that Adam set up these PALACES for his own benefit. Satan is the god of the palaces, or church buildings. God hates them.
Isa 34:13 And thorns shall come up in her PALACES, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.
Jer 6:5 Arise, and let us go by night, and let us destroy her PALACES.
Thorns, nettles and brambles are the law. See the command in Jer. 6:5, to God’s army, to go up by night and destroy her palaces.

Sin Was By The Law

Can you read?  This verse said these sins bringing forth the fruit unto death   WAS  BY THE LAW.  THE LAW IS THE ONLY WAY THERE IS SIN IN US.  WHERE THERE IS NO LAW, THERE IS NO SIN.

SIN WAS BY THE LAW. 

How in this world can millions of people swallow such a lie that we are to obey ONLY those 10 commandments of God and not all the rest of God’s Commandments?  How?

Why do you feel you can disobey God’s Commandment to be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your sins and then (still a command) be baptized with the Holy ghost as those 120 did on  the day of Pentecost? 

how are you delivered from that law if you are still BOUND TO KEEP IT?  FOOLISHNESS IS WHAT THIS IS.

The Law is not of faith.  Without Faith it is impossible to please God.  In other words, by the law it is impossible to please God.  You fall from Grace.  So go right ahead.  Enough truth has been printed in this group to convert the whole world IF  THEY DESIRED TRUTH.

It is proven you want no truth if it crosses your little dead religion or causes you to be transformed away from being conformed to this world.   Dress like the world.  conduct yourself like the world.  go to the worldly places.  but mock the Holy Things of God. 

I say all who take this attitude are hell bound.  Your flesh is never going to let you be not conformed to this world. Don’t be set apart.  While God said we must be set apart.  Be a peculiar people, Holy and unblamable, showing Godliness in our DAILY LIVES.

Lord Jesus,  give me their portion.  I want it ALL.

Profaning The Sabbath

Profaning the Sabbath ~

In Nehemiah 13 we find that Nehemiah was very diligent about ‘cleaning up’ the newly restored people of Jerusalem and getting them to do right in the sight of God. He caused them to bring the tithes into the house of God and not to forsake the house of God.

He was very diligent about seeing that they observed the Sabbath Day according to the things commanded by Moses. He knew this was one of the reasons God’s wrath had come upon them and that city had gone into captivity and destruction. He told them if they continued to do things forbidden on this day God would again bring his wrath upon them.

Neh. 13: 15. In those days saw I in Judah some treading wine presses on the Sabbath, and bringing in sheaves, and lading asses; as also wine, grapes, and figs, and all manner of burdens, which they brought into Jerusalem on the Sabbath day: and I testified against them in the day wherein they sold victuals.

16. There dwelt men of Tyre also therein, which brought fish, and all manner of ware, and sold on the Sabbath unto the children of Judah, and in Jerusalem.

17. Then I contended with the nobles of Judah, and said unto them, What evil thing is this that ye do, and profane the Sabbath day?

18. Did not your fathers thus, and did not our God bring all this evil upon us, and upon this city? Yet ye bring more wrath upon Israel by profaning the Sabbath.

19. And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the Sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the Sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the Sabbath day.

20. So the merchants and sellers of all kind of ware lodged without Jerusalem once or twice.

21. Then I testified against them, and said unto them, Why lodge ye about the wall? If ye do so again, I will lay hands on you. From that time forth came they no more on the Sabbath.

22. And I commanded the Levites that they should cleanse themselves, and that they should come and keep the gates, to sanctify the Sabbath day. Remember me, O my God, concerning this also, and spare me according to the greatness of thy mercy.

Now here is a good lesson on Sabbath Keeping, according to the O.T. This man Nehemiah was working to see that the people quit profaning this Sabbath Day. How did they profane it? Read the passage.

Verse 15 shows they were bringing burdens into Jerusalem and selling them on this day. Buying and selling profanes the Sabbath.

V 16 again shows the selling to be profaning the Sabbath. V 17 he calls it evil. V18 declares this is the very reason God brought evil upon this city. “Yet ye bring more wrath upon Israel by profaning the Sabbath.

V 19 he set some of his servants at the gates to see that no burdens were brought in on the Sabbath day. The merchants tried to keep coming even then, but Nehemiah told them if they came again he would lay hands on them.

Now when you go back and try to keep the law of the O.T. you are bringing in ‘burdens’ which are forbidden to be brought into the New City, the New Sabbath.

V22 he commands the Levites to cleanse themselves and come and keep the gates to sanctify the Sabbath day. Remember me, O my God and spare me according to you great mercy because of my doing this.

Now here is a great lesson for us. See how important keeping the O.T. weekly Sabbath according to Moses’ commandments was then. Profaning this day brought God’s wrath upon them. You who still feel you must keep this day had better get it right according to what Moses said, or you will bring the wrath of God upon yourselves. You cannot turn this day into a ‘fun’ day, doing your own pleasure and ways. This will get you into serious trouble with God.

But now I want to show you what God told me this morning as he gave me this message. You know that the Word of God shows in Isaiah 28 that there was coming a new rest to the people of God. A rest to the soul. A Sabbath which Jesus would GIVE us. This Sabbath is accompanied by stammering lips and another tongue. This is the Baptism of the Holy Ghost which first came on the people on the Day of Pentecost – the beginning of the N.T.

This day is typed in the Sabbaths of the O.T. by the jubile year. This is the 50 days they kept. It said on this day they were to offer to God a New Meat offering. This typed the New Wine of the New Covenant which came on the Day of Pentecost. Once this New Sabbath is here, we are no longer to go by the Sabbaths of the O.T. If we do so, we are PROFANING the true Sabbath, the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

If you refuse the stammering lips and the new tongue you fall backward and will be snared and taken and fall. Read it in Isaiah 28.

Now God showed me he has placed us his true servants of the N.T. Covenant at the ‘gates’ of the true Jerusalem the New Church, to see that this New Sabbath is no longer profaned. Yes the gates are the Apostles Doctrine. They were the gates into this new City, or new move of God.

The New Sabbath was given to the disciples on the Day of Pentecost by Jesus. He baptized them with the great Holy Ghost here with the evidence Isaiah said would accompany this outpouring of God’s Spirit, speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.

Now all of you who mock this, say ‘he he’ and call it names, such as charismatic are profaning this true Sabbath, which the O.T. Sabbath only typed.

All of you who reject this great move of God, who feel too proud for it, will not humble yourselves and let God have his way with you, are profaning the true Sabbath which Jesus gives to us.

The Apostles all taught to be baptized in water in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and then receive the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of stammering lips, speaking in another tongues as the Spirit gives utterance. They are teaching that this is the true rest, the rest to the soul. This is the N.T Sabbath or rest.

God has placed us here as he did Nehemiah then, to clean up this evil of mocking and profaning this Sabbath. We ‘sit’ at the gates, Acts 2: 38 and Acts 10 and tell you that you had better quit mocking and profaning this true Sabbath. When you reject this and go back to the O.T. Sabbath you are profaning the real Sabbath.

God will bring his wrath upon you because of this evil. I am warning you just as Nehemiah warned them then. The buying and selling of Holy things, or things concerning worship is again profaning this Sabbath. It is the mark of the Beast. If you pay a preacher, or he receives pay to preach it is profaning this Sabbath. The things of God are free. Freely you have received freely give. This is the true Church.

Any buying and selling connected with worship and things of God is evil. It profanes the Sabbath. God has sent me to warn you. He told me to tell you his wrath is headed your way. He said for all of you to repent and receive this true rest or be destroyed forever. If you continue to ‘mock’ this Sabbath Jesus gives, God’s wrath is headed your way.

Peter, Paul and the other Apostles are the gates into the true City. You must come in by their message. . They taught the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with evidence of speaking in tongues. You cannot go back and let Moses by your ‘gate’ into the Holy City. If you refuse this, if you mock this, the wrath of God is headed your way. Be warned!

Jo Smith— March 29, 2003

Let Us Look at Another Commandment

From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 11/13/2003 12:48 AM

James 2: 10.  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
 11.  For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Now I am asking each of you – are you trying to tell us you keep all the whole law and never break any one point of it?  If not, then you are guilty of breaking it all.  So your fishing on Sat. will do you no good.

Do you never ‘bear false witness’? 

Do you never take the name of the Lord in vain?

  Do you never covet?  Now really?  not ever?  not anything?  are you sure.  you better be very sure – for you put yourself back under that law,  you better be sure you don’t break  ANY OF IT  — NOT JUST FISH ON SAT.  OR CLIMB MT. OR WHATEVER ELSE YOU DO TO SUIT YOUR PLEASURE ON SAT.

bETTER RUN TO THE ROCKS AND MT TO FALL ON YOU. 

 BETTER RUN TO THE N.T. WHILE YOU STILL CAN;  BETTER GO GET BAPTIZED IN JESUS NAME FOR THE REMISSION OF YOUR SINS WHILE U STILL CAN.

better let the Holy Ghost speak in tongues through you while he still will.Exodus 20 1.  And God spake all these words, saying,
 2.  I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
 3.  Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
 4.  Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
 5.  Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Now, lets look at these commandments a minute. v4–do not make any graven image —how bout all those graven santa clauses’?  graven raindeers? graven rabbits and eggs?  manger scenes?  wise men scenes?  crosses?  big church steeples? stained glass windows?No graven images, huh?Guess you will all fall over this one.  Might ought to forget this law keeping and run to Grace.Do you ‘bow’ to old santa?  God is a jealous God.  How bout those decorated up trees?  God said not to have them; not to do any green tree worship — might ought to forget this law keeping and run to Grace.  But know what?  you would still have to leave out these idols to please God.Now I know for a fact that this alone will take most of you completely away from God.  Without the Holy Ghost, you are steeped in idols.  Got them running out your house, up to the house top (lights all over the place)– in your bushes, on your fences,  coming down your chemneys,  egg hunts, sun rise worship- my my.  Better beg God to give you the Holy Ghost while you still can.  IF  you still can.God is a jealous God.  Better quit all this idol worship and try to hide behind going fishing on Sat.Your little ole screeming about sabbath is NOT GONNA SAVE YOU FROM ALL THESE IDOLS.  GOD IS JEALOUS.  YOU ARE NOT FOOLING HIM A BIT.you love your idols; your ball games; your dances; your t.v. evils, your worldly dressing and doings.  your sabbath doings is NOT GONNA SAVE YOU.Better listen to this little ole woman.  I am telling you the solid truth.  No church out there will tell it to you straight.  Better forget them; they are whores against God.  God is jealous  your idol holidays is provoking him to anger.your lies about sabbath keeping is only making him more angry.Without the Holy Ghost you are lost.This next section is very important:Numb. 15: 32.  And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
 33.  And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.

 34.  And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
 35.  And The Lord said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
 36.  And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.
Now I have heard so much about this ‘Sabbath keeping’ I am going to look into this matter real close;  (since my salvation depends on doing this business right)  and yours does too. So I want to help you people keep that day holy and do it according to Moses.  Not Pharisees as your false teachers deceived you with – but Moses.  Not one thing will I write which the Pharisees get credit for – only Moses in whom you trust.Now be sure you don’t go anywhere near to any sticks; at least not to  GATHER ANY.  It is a matter of DEATH.  Stoning.  You will surely go to hell if you gather any sticks on Sat.Got to help you all stay out of hell and being stoned.  (by the way, who sees that this stoning is carried out?)

That was GOD who commanded this man who gathered sticks on the Sabbath to be stoned to death; not the Pharisees.  This is WHY those Pharisees were so digilent about trying to keep this day right, and to get others to do so – they knew about the horrible concquesces of disobeying it.  (maybe you too better get down to seriously keeping this day right; not according to your own pleasure).
By: Jo Smith

Kindle a Fire On the Sabbath?

How important is obedience?

I find it very odd and hypocritical that the very church which advocates this thing of Sabbath keeping, causes you all to BREAK IT by going to church on Sat. The above Scripture shows you are not to go out of your house on this day.

If you are gonna keep this day better get to doing it right.

Exodus 35

  1. And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the Lord hath commanded, that ye should do them.
  2. Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the Lord: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.
  3. Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.
    If you do ANY WORK ON THIS DAY YOU SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH.
    Who is responsible to see that this killing is carried out? You can say it is not supposed to be done all you want to; but I say unto you, if this law still stands, this part of it still stands also. He did not do away with part of it and keep the other part.

You are breaking this Sabbath law if you do not see that the guilty ones are KILLED. THIS IS JUST AS MUCH PART OF THE SABBATH LAW AS NOT WORKING IS.

If you kindle any fire on this day you broke it and are guilty of breaking the whole law. You will go to hell for starting a fire on Sat.

If it is cold you better not start a fire. I am very serious people. You have bound yourselves to this Sabbath law. You had better get it right. God is not going to put up with you changing his laws to suit yourself.

yes, we are persecuted just as He was, because we speak the same truth he did. If they have called Him the devil, how much more we who are of his household. Now we do not belong to Moses’ house.

Isa. 51: 4. Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.

  1. My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.

Jesus is speaking in prophecy here — he said O my nation _-(not speaking to those old jews – nope – speaking to the N.T. Christians)– A LAW SHALL (future tense)– proceed (something yet going to happen) — (long after the O.T. law was given by Moses)–

A law – shall proceed from me (Jesus speaking)– and I will make my judgment to restfor a light of the people — the O.t. Law is darkness –

So Jesus is prophecying that His Law will give Light. A law yet to come from Jesus — = (not yet given)–

See, His righteousness is NEAR?- (not yet come)–

This LAW was the commandment given by Peter on the Day of Pentecost; and again in Acts 10.

This LAW is the law of life in Christ Jesus, which makes us free from the LAW OF SIN AND DEATH.
= O.T. Law of Moses.
Now I am asking all adventist or other believers in going by OT law to get into these discussions and either prove or disprove the truth of all this.

it is important. I want to see the other nine commandments upheld and taught. All I have ever heard come out of your mouths is this thing of going to church or fishing on Saturday.
How hypocritical can one be!! Now you do not want law. You do not want holiness. You do not want truth.
Everyone of you fled from these discussions before. I grant you, it will be the same this time. But you cannot escape. You cannot claim now that the pharisees caused these laws to be hard on you. It is what Moses said by the mouth of God.

You better quit listening to Ellen white’s church and listen to God’s word or you are hell bound.

Jo Smith

Is It Right To Bear A Burden On the Sabbath?

From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 11/13/2003 12:44 AM

Jer. 17 : 21. Thus saith the Lord; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem;

  1. Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers.
  2. But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction.
  3. And it shall come to pass, if ye diligently hearken unto me, saith the Lord, to bring in no burden through the gates of this city on the sabbath day, but hallow the sabbath day, to do no work therein;

Now here is a prophet saying the same thing: bear (carry) no burden on the sabbath day — do not carry a thing out of your houses on this day; take no burden through the gates of your city.
Now how many of you are very careful NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING IN OR OUT OF YOUR HOUSE ON SAT?
DO YOU REALLY KEEP THIS DAY HOLY?
YOU HAD BETTER TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
I TRULY DO NOT BELIEVE ANY OF YOU TAKE IT SERIOUS. I TRULY DO NOT BEIEVE ANY OF YOU THINK YOU MUST DO ANY OF THIS – THEN HOW ARE YOU KEEPING THE DAY HOLY?

YOU MUST OBEY— you must obey the word— you must keep it right according to the word. God will not hold you guiltless if you say you keep it and do not obey how he said to do it.

Isa, 58: 13. If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

Now this one tells you that you must not find your own pleasure on the Sabbath, NOR SPEAK YOUR OWN WORDS ON THIS DAY.
AND ON TOP OF ALL THIS, CALL THIS A DELIGHT — SEE YOU MUST ENJOY DOING ALL OF THIS STUFF.

Now I am going to tell you something – you kick the Pharisees for what they were doing – trying to make people keep this day right – well they were doing exactly what Nehemiah was doing – trying to make them keep it right so God would not destroy them. And if you think you need to do this, you had BETTER DO THE SAME THING. (better quit going fishing (your own pleasure) on sat.)

But go, with an open mind, and read all of this, then read how Jesus battled those people all the way trying to get it going another way.
Those Pharisees were only trying to keep them from breaking the Sabbath to keep the wrath of God off them; but Jesus did right the opposite.

WONDER WHY?

Maybe you better study this. And also see what a lot of work I have gone to to help you all learn how to keep it right to keep God’s wrath off you. You really should appreciate me.

Your church causes you to break it while deceiving you into thinking they helped you keep it.
How can you go to church?
You are not supposed to go out of your house; you can only travel a short distance.

You cannot carry any ‘burden’ (means anything out of your house– not even your Bible. nor your pocket book. Do you take these things to church? then you are breaking the day and are guilty of breaking the whole law. You will go to hell.
Now you adventist claim all of this was the way the Pharisees said do this thing of keeping the 7th day Sabbath, therefore you are not bound to keep it this way.
So I say go find Scripture and prove that this came through the Pharisees.
Then why is it written way back there in Jer?
this is not from the Pharisees. it is a command given by Almighty God.

If you must keep any Sabbath, then you must keep it the way He said. This is part of His law concerning how to do this thing.
So I am still asking you adventist to tell us how you do it — how are we to do it? What laws do we go by?

You have told us zillions of time we must keep this day, but then when we try to find out HOW to obey and keep it, none of you will tell us.

Tell us how you keep it. Or be quiet about it.

Jo

These Other Sabbaths

From: joie (Original Message) Sent: 11/13/2003 1:24 AM

OK. Now let’s let this community see who has the truth of this matter. Let the one who proves how to keep the Sabbath Holy by the Word of God be the one who has God teaching them truth. I am on my way. Care to join me?

Now I am studying this throughly. I am going to post quite a few Scriptures PROVING HOW GOD WANTS THE SABBATH KEPT HOLY.

I tell you, if you are still under obligation to keep that 7th day, you are ALSO BOUND TO KEEP ALL THE OTHER SABBATHS. THE SAME GOD WHO SAID KEEP THE 7TH DAY SABBATH ALSO SAID KEEP THESE OTHER SABBATHS.

WHAT YOU GONNA DO ABOUT THIS? DO YOU KEEP ALL OF THEM? HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY BY THE WORD, NOT KEEPING THE OTHERS, IF YOU DO NOT?

Leviticus 23

  1. And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
  2. Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the Lord, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
  3. Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.
  4. These are the feasts of the Lord, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
  5. In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the Lord’s passover.
  6. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the Lord: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
  7. In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
  8. But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
    (this throws this day to fall on the first day of the week, Sunday.)the 14th day and the 15th day could not both be on a sat.
  9. And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
  10. Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
  11. And he shall wave the sheaf before the Lord, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
  12. And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the Lord. (this types Jesus)
  13. And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the Lord for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
  14. And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
  15. And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
  16. Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the Lord.

Do you know why they were told in verse 16 to number fifty days and offer a NEW MEAT OFFERING UNTO THE LORD?

Because this thing TYPED the coming of the true meat offering to God, the Baptism of the Holy Ghost on the Day of Pentecost! It came 50 days AFTER THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS. That is why!

It was ONLY TYPES AND SHADOWS! SO WHY CONTINUE TO KEEP THE SHADOWS WHEN THE REAL THING HAS COME?

If you are under a command to keep the weekly Sabbath, you are also under a command to keep this one on the 5oth day (which by the way falls on the first day of the week)-

And if you still keep this type of Pentecost, it PROVES YOU DID NOT GET TO THE REAL PENTECOST.

AND IF YOU REFUSE THIS, YOU HAVE NO SALVATION.

  1. And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
  2. Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
  3. Ye shall do no servile work therein: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
  4. And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
  5. Also on the tenth day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
  6. And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it is a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the Lord your God.
  7. For whatsoever soul it be that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
  8. And whatsoever soul it be that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
  9. Ye shall do no manner of work: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
  10. It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
  11. And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
  12. Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the Lord.
  13. On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. (this one falls on Sunday)
  14. Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord: on the eighth dayshall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein.
    (the 8th day is a Sunday)
  15. These are the feasts of the Lord, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the Lord, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
  16. Beside the sabbaths of the Lord, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the Lord.

Now there are some more Sabbaths you are to keep and rest in and do no work in. Do you keep these Sabbaths? If not, where is your excuse? Where is your Scripture showing you are free from these Sabbaths, but not free from the weekly Sabbath? You are guilty of twisting too much Scripture.

There are actually more Sabbaths down through here which fall on the 1st day of the Week (Sunday) than the 7th day sabbath.
So where do you stand? They are just as much commandments from God as the other.

No where in this reading is any Pharisees mentioned. It said at the beginning of each new thought God commanded Moses – God said to Moses-

People, this is God’s Word; not the word of the Pharisees. Where did you all get this lame excuse to do away with the real way of keeping it Holy?

You are running away from God and truth.

Look at v.36– there again a Sabbath fell on the first day of the Week. Do you keep it? You had better – the same God who commanded the 7th day rest, also demanded rest on this day.
All of this business CLEARLY types the coming of the true rest, the Baptism of the Holy Ghost on Pentecost SUNDAY.

You cannot deny that this day fell on a Sunday. For it was 7 Weekly sabbaths, then one more day, making 50 days, which throws the true Sabbath, Pentecost to fall on a SUNDAY.

What you gonna do about this?
(you see, I am not ignorant about Sabbaths as you all thought I was.)

Now I want some discussion on each of these topics and new threads I have made from our old discussion of this subject. I want all of you adventist and law people to get in here and study this thing out and be truthful with God and His word. If not then you say to God his truth is not important and you will be lost.

I have warned you and warned you. It is serious; I am not joking or jesting with you. Nothing is more serious. without honesty and truth With God, You have no chance for salvation; only a fearful looking to of fiery indignation from an angry God who will DEVOUR THE ADVERSARY.

Unless you love truth and study to find truth, you are his ADVERSARY.

JO Smith