Psalm 119….know that David did not write his auto-biography. He wrote what God told him to write; not about himself. but it is someone’s words….not as it looks, not David:
2 I remembered thy judgments of old, O Lord; and have comforted myself. Who could remember God’s JUDGMENTS OF OLD?
59 I thought on my ways, and turned my feet unto thy testimonies. (someone is repenting)
61 The bands of the wicked have robbed me: but I have not forgotten thy law.
67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.
this is not Jesus. but it is a very important person in the works of God.
and there is much more. this chapter is full of it.
‘she’ cries out to God, with tears and all her heart…over and over…and this is how to move God. He came to her rescue and great things awaited her.
Psalms 25 is a real good one. I see where she said remember not my transgression many times and also where God forgave her. There is so much in Psalms about her.
Psalm 118: 17, 18. also 144: 7, 9
Ps. 18: 19 ,,, this chapter clearly describes the FLOOD, and how this one prayed for deliverance and was delivered,,,then this…19 He brought me forth also into a large place; he delivered me, because he delighted in me……what do you think this large place is….coming after this mighty flood that shook the foundations of the earth? who is this that was in that flood and came out of it? that was clearly being very mistreated before that flood?
41 They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the Lord, but he answered them not…I think this speaks of those who died in that flood.
48 He delivereth me from mine enemies: yea, thou liftest me up above those that rise up against me: thou hast delivered me from the violent man…..here she speaks of being delivered from THE VIOLENT MAN. this violent man is Adam.
cp 31: 8 And hast not shut me up into the hand of the enemy: thou hast set my feet in a large room……here again she speaks of this LARGE ROOM.cp 31: 8 And hast not shut me up into the hand of the enemy: thou hast set my feet in a large room……here again she speaks of this LARGE ROOM.
cp 32: 5 I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.
6 For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou mayest be found: surely in the floods of great waters they shall not come nigh unto him…..too much in here that connects her with that flood.
Romans 5: 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
When will the world stop adding to God’s word, and believe what He said? He said by one MAN, sin entered this world. It never says by on woman. Yet this is what most people believe and say.
17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Someone show me a verse proving that God blamed Eve
1Cor 15: 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
so oo man had the power of death! so, man is satan. proven. 34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
1Cor 15: 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
so oo man had the power of death! so, man is satan. proven. 34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
read Ruth 3 and 4. I think this is showing the marriage between Noah and Eve….and has a lot to do with why. I had shut down then read all of this and came back on…for I think this is showing what happened between Noah and Eve.
I see it more clearly now. came back on to show you this. that PROMISE was to EVE that HER seed would bruise the head of that old serpent. when she had Seth, she said, God has given me ANOTHER seed, in place of Abel, whom Cain slew. Now, a flood is coming that will wipe out all HER SEED. Now she is the only person left in existence that God made with his very hands. this is a special thing that no one else can EVER FULFILL. So in order for that PROMISE to be fulfilled, that it will be HER SEED that does this DELIVERANCE, she must produce another SEED FROM HER OWN BODY. Adam is dead. all the others are fixing to die except NOAH.
Noah alone cannot produce another SEED OF EVE…not even with another woman. they both know this. God just gave me this. I KNOW HE DID. and it is right…. see, Psalm 142, (and this is what put me onto this). .. she said, ‘I looked on my right hand, and beheld, but there was no man that would KNOW ME. this knowing means to bring forth children.. it is the way….refuge failed me; no man cared for my soul…….see, she was looking to save that SEED OF HERS, AND FOUND NO MAN TO DO HIS PART. It is the same thing that went on with Ruth and Boaz. …but Noah knew these things also…so he, as did Boaz, was willing to take Eve for a wife and raise up that SEED OF HERS THAT WAS NEEDED TO SAVE THIS WORLD. I am telling you, this is too glorious for words. a revelation that only God himself could have revealed to me or anyone else, for that matter. ..
Gen 5, says, This is the Book of the Generations of Adam. this continues till Mat. 1….then it says this is the Book of the generations of Christ…..now this Christ is the SEED OF THIS WOMAN…..SO EVE HAD TO PRODUCE ANOTHER LINE OF …HER SEED….TO GET TO THIS CHRIST……..hope some of you can see this glorious revelation.
something else that God just showed me….this thing was so important to that old people, that Lots two daughters got him drunk and went with their own father to SAVE SEED FROM THEIR FATHER.. now that helps prove the importance of saving the right SEED.
what did she mean, refuge failed me? what refuge did she mean? she is speaking of finding someone who could help her produce another line of HER SEED.
When Eve looked on her RIGHT hand, to find a man who would know her so she could produce another promised SEED to save this world, it means she looked for a person who served the true God. Right hand shows the SHEEP or folks of God. Left hand shows satan’s folks. So she was desperately looking for another SEED, who could and would save this world from destruction. She found this man in Noah. great revelation….but fools hate knowledge, so said God.
I have often wondered why Noah waited so long to have children…if he did…perhaps he had some that we are not told about….but don’t know for never found it in Scripture..but was thinking, just me here,,,perhaps he was waiting for Eve to be released out of her prison.I have often wondered why Noah waited so long to have children…if he did…perhaps he had some that we are not told about….but don’t know for never found it in Scripture..but was thinking, just me here,,,perhaps he was waiting for Eve to be released out of her prison.
Lot’s daughters were DESPERATE to save seed of their Father, for they knew all the rest were dead. they took drastic action to save this seed. the carnal minded try to look at what they did as sin….but God did not see it this way….they were into saving a certain seed line. This is the very thing Eve was the most concerned with…saving and getting to that promised SEED that would bruise the head of that wicked serpent and save this world. She is the most precious one and yet she is hated and slandered by the IGNORANT all the time. She suffered so much and cried out to God continuously for deliverance. She was more concerned with saving this Seed line than her own life.
~~ Thy Mother ~~ In the following Scripture, Jacob represents Jesus, in the types of the OT. Everything which is told about in the lives of those who lived in the OT, is either showing and revealing things about Jesus or Adam, or Eve. They are revealed all through the OT. God has to show you how to discern this. But many people miss ever seeing the deep truths about these three important people, because they do not receive the revelation or know how to see the types and shadows of the OT. Gen 27:6 And Rebekah spake unto Jacob her son, saying, Behold, I heard thy father speak unto Esau thy brother, saying, Ge 27:7 Bring me venison, and make me savoury meat, that I may eat, and bless thee before the LORD before my death.Ge 27:8 Now therefore, my son, obey my voice according to that which I command thee.Ge 27:9 Go now to the flock, and fetch me from thence two good kids of the goats; and I will make them savoury meat for thy father, such as he loveth: Ge 27:10 And thou shalt bring it to thy father, that he may eat, and that he may bless thee before his death. Esau represents Adam, as he is the firstborn. Jacob represents Jesus, as he is the second born. Esau, being a hairy man, shows that man, without God, in this world, is as a beast. I do not mean an animal, here, but a beast, according to Scripture. It shows the first-man, Adam, which is human beings.Their being twins, having both the same Mother and Father, being born together, shows that within the same spiritual ‘mother’, (our earthly lives), is both a son of man and a son of God. The Son of God is the inner man, or the one who has the spirit of God inside. It is our spiritual, ‘manchild’ or the Christ, in us. The fact that Isaac loved Esau and called him his son shows that the first-man, Adam, loved the earthly things and not the spiritual things. Rebekaha’s loving Jacob more, and calling him her son, shows that Eve, the spiritual Mother of us all, and the heavenly Jerusalem, loves the spiritual things. Isaac wanted to give the blessing to his firstborn, Esau, showing that Adam wanted to cleave to the earthly things. Being the firstborn, shows Adam, the first or earthly man. But Rebekah desired for Jacob to have the blessing. This shows that Eve, the Mother of us all, wanted her children to have the blessings of God. Her children are the children of FAITH. Jesus Christ is HERSEED. God promised Eve, that HER SEED would bruise the head of that old serpent. This is prophecy of Jesus Christ. So Jesus is the spiritual SEED of Eve. Her children are the ones who served the true God and not that old serpent, Adam, which is earthly or fleshly. It is the DUST which is the serpent’s MEAT. Esau had already sold his birthright to Jacob, for a pot of stew, showing that Adam cast away his birthright, of being God’s first son, to cling to the earthly, dust things or riches and power to rule over others. Since Jacob wanted the birthright, he also stood in line to have the blessing. It is spiritual. God fully intended to give the spiritual things to his Second Son, Jesus Christ. So all of this is showing it in the types and shadows.Every truth is typed in the OT. Everything must be proven by those OT types, else you have no proof. Ge 27:11 And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man: Ge 27:12 My father peradventure will feel me, and I shall seem to him as a deceiver; and I shall bring a curse upon me, and not a blessing. Ge 27:13 And his mother said unto him, Upon me be thy curse, my son: only obey my voice, and go fetch me them. Here Rebekah is typing Eve, as she instructed her ‘children’, those of faith, in how to receive the blessings from God. She was willing to receive the curse which might befall any of them. This is one of the main reasons why Eve is so hated, lied about, and slandered, even to our day. Jacob shows the true Christian, as he obeyed his Mother, who is the Mother of us all. She is the Mother of the FAITH CHILDREN OF GOD. Adam did not ‘father’ any faithful children of God. His ‘children’ are those who live in the flesh, and eat of the dust, or earthly things, instead of spiritual things. Ge 27:14 And he went, and fetched, and brought them to his mother: and his mother made savoury meat, such as his father loved.Ge 27:15 And Rebekah took goodly raiment of her eldest son Esau, which were with her in the house, and put them upon Jacob her younger son:Ge 27:16 And she put the skins of the kids of the goats upon his hands, and upon the smooth of his neck:Ge 27:17 And she gave the savoury meat and the bread, which she had prepared, into the hand of her son Jacob. Those two kids represent the same thing which the two goats represented, in the law of Moses. One goat had the sins placed upon his head, and was driven out into the wilderness, to wonder alone forever. The other goat was slain and offered to God. They both show Jesus, as he was slain to take away our sins. The other goat, the scapegoat, carried the sins away. Thus she was showing that Eve understood these spiritual things and taught them to her ‘children’, which were the Faith Children of God.Then Rebekah made savory meat and bread, such as the father liked. This is showing that Eve is the one who had the TRUTH to preach to this world. She gave out the spiritual food, which God loves. She made the spiritual ‘flesh’ which was pleasing to God, the Father and gave it to her Son, which represents Jesus Christ. Thus, as Jesus preached the true ‘flesh’, or spiritual meat and bread, he was showing that he received this from his spiritual Mother, Eve. He is HER SEED. Very few people wish to acknowledge this great truth. But it is verified in all of God’s word. It was HER SEED, not his seed, which bruised the head of that old serpent. Jacob, or Jesus, was not taking meat and bread of HIS OWN MAKING to his Father, as Esau did. Jacob relied solely upon his MOTHER to get this blessing for him. He obeyed HER, and thus received the blessing, which was passed down through the FAITH SEED, into Jesus Christ. Esau went to his ‘father’ or God, in the types, carrying his own self works. Jacob went, carrying nothing of his own doings, relying solely upon his Spiritual Mother. Esau shows all who live in the flesh and offer to God their own earthly works, such as ‘church’, preachers, or other earthly works. Jacob represents those who go to God, resting solely upon the Spiritual works of Jesus Christ, our spiritual Mother/Father. When Rebekah took the goodly raiment of the eldest son, Esau, and put it upon Jacob, the younger, this shows that Jesus Christ also had the same human flesh upon him, that Adam had. He was just as fully human as any other human being. That is what this shows. He goes to his Father, clothed in Esau’s clothing! Mary was the instrument which was used here, as Eve, to put this humanity upon this second son of God.When she put the goats skin on Jacob’s hands and neck, this shows that Jesus was to be clothed in the sacrifices of our sins and goes to God, in his humanity. He took upon himself our sins, thus the goat’s skin. Ge 27:18 And he came unto his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I; who art thou, my son?Ge 27:19 And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy firstborn; I have done according as thou badest me: arise, I pray thee, sit and eat of my venison, that thy soul may bless me. Ge 27:20 And Isaac said unto his son, How is it that thou hast found it so quickly, my son? And he said, Because the LORD thy God brought it to me. Here Jesus is going to the Father, using nothing but the first-man, Adam, human life that he has. He is not going to God claiming to be god, as Adam tried to do. He simply claims to be of the firstborn, humanity. He did not lift himself up as a god. He did not say to God, I am God, I sit in the seat of God, as Adam had claimed. He made no higher claim than being of the firstborn, humanity. Those who teach that Jesus claimed to be god, or was god, are lying against Jesus and cannot find the true types in the OT for such a thing. We do not see where Adam ever claimed Abel to be his son. It was Eve. She is the one who said, God has given MEanother SEED, in place of ABEL, WHOM CAIN SLEW.(Cain’s killing Abel, showed here, that humanity would kill Jesus, trying to do away with that spiritual SEED, which would take away HIS DOMINION.) What takes place after this occurred with Jacob? Esau immediately sets out to SLEY JACOB. He had that murdering spirit in him. But Eve, the Mother, saved him. This is showing that Eve’s teaching her children of the true FAITH, saves Jesus Christ from eternal death. Seth’s replacing Abel, shows that the resurrected Christ, replaces, and saves the earthly Jesus. Thus they are joined TOGETHER into one Son of God, coming from the same spiritual MOTHER. Next, Jacob tells the father, I have done as you bade me. This is Jesus, in prophecy, saying I did always that things which pleased my Father, so now, arise, eat of the FOOD I HAVE PREPARED FOR YOU. Eat of my offering. Bless me. Then he says, God brought this to me. Thus Jesus gives God the glory, all the way. This is truly SO BEAUTIFUL. Ge 27:21 And Isaac said unto Jacob, Come near, I pray thee, that I may feel thee, my son, whether thou be my very son Esau or not. Ge 27:22 And Jacob went near unto Isaac his father; and he felt him, and said, The voice is Jacob’s voice, but the hands are the hands of Esau. The above is truly beautiful. It is God showing that the voice is Jesus, but he is in human flesh. The hands are the hands, (flesh) of Esau, the firstborn, or first-man, Adam. Thus the MESSAGE of Jesus was delivered in a human person. Ge 27:23 And he discerned him not, because his hands were hairy, as his brother Esau’s hands: so he blessed him. Ge 27:24 And he said, Art thou my very son Esau? And he said, I am. Ge 27:25 And he said, Bring it near to me, and I will eat of my son’s venison, that my soul may bless thee. And he brought it near to him, and he did eat: and he brought him wine, and he drank. So here, we see that God ate of the food which Jesus brought to him, or accepted his offering. He said did not discern him, showing that men cannot discern the truth of Jesus, because of his humanity. This also shows that the message which Jesus brought the world is the very same message which Eve, Abel, and Seth all preached to this world. They all received it from the Mother, Eve. This is proof that Eve taught the world the entire word of God, and it is the very same message which Jesus taught. Again, he asks, are you my very son, Esau. Again Jesus verifies, Yes, I am of the firstborn, I am human. He gave the father food and wine to drink. Thus Jesus delivered the entire spiritual message, which pleased his Father, and thus, he received the full blessing of God. Ge 27:26 And his father Isaac said unto him, Come near now, and kiss me, my son. The come near and kiss me, shows that Jesus came near to God and worshipped him. The kiss shows worship. He walked always, close to God. Ge 27:27 And he came near, and kissed him: and he smelled the smell of his raiment, and blessed him, and said, See, the smell of my son is as the smell of a field which the LORD hath blessed:God saw this was a full human man, who had pleased God in all things. Here he acknowledges that this one is of the earth, earthly, but was the blessed of the Lord. Thank you, precious Lord Jesus, for revealing this great message to me. How I love your beautiful WORD. Ge 27:28 Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine:Ge 27:29 Let people serve thee, and nations bow down to thee: be lord over thy brethren, and let thy mother’s sons bow down to thee: cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee. God now gives to Jesus all the dew of heaven, or heavens fullest blessings, AND the fatness of the earth, or all that the earth has to offer to the sons of God. Plenty of corn and wine, shows the fullness of the revelation of the Word of God, the FOOD OF GOD. It was all given to Jesus. Now the depth of the blessing: let people SERVE THEE…. The elder shall serve the younger…and nations will bow down to thee……every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God, the Father. Be LORD over thy brethren. God has made this same Jesus to be BOTH Lord and Christ.Cursed be everyone that curses you, and blessed be all that bless thee. This is the promise given to Abraham for HIS SEED, WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST. It came first through Jacob, and then on down to Jesus Christ, and then into us, who are the children of FAITH. Now for the depth of this revelation: let THY MOTHER’S SONS BOWN DOWN TO THEE.Here, God takes it all the way back to the MOTHER OF US ALL, EVE. Let all of Eve’s children bow down to thee. So, all who bow and worship JESUS CHRIST are of this Godly woman’s seed. We are the Seed of Eve. She is the MOTHER OF US ALL. Jesus Christ is HER SEED, WHICH IS THE BLESSED SEED OF THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. This is the seed which bruises the head of that old serpent! By: Jo Smith ~~ Sept. 21, 2008
Freeborn,This is truly a beautiful meassage. Now you see what I was trying to say about the women in scripture. I just have not figured it all out yet. I know that Rebekaha was carrying the seed of the women. And so was Ruth. If you would start with Eve and work your way through the down to Mary. Noah carrried the seed of the women to the other side. Abraham & Sarah carried the seed. David carried the seed. You have seen what I saw whne I was reading it. But you brought it out. Thank-you once again for your lovely message. It is time to go to work.Tweety
And I thank you, Tweety, for the good words and your interest in these spiritual matters. It is true, all these people carried the Seed of the Woman, for that is the Seed of Faith. The man’s seed is the natural, carnal, serpent seed. So we all, men and women, must come into the Woman’s seed to have eternal life. Jesus Christ is HER SEED. Yet SHE is so lied about and put down by most people!
~~ Thy Mother, part two ~~
I want to show you here, another type, in Jacob’s life, showing the truth about our Mother, Eve.
Gen 28:1 And Isaac called Jacob, and blessed him, and charged him, and said unto him, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan.
Ge 28:2 Arise, go to Padanaram, to the house of Bethuel thy mother’s father; and take thee a wife from thence of the daughters of Laban thy mother’s brother.
Ge 28:3 And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;
Ge 28:4 And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.
Ge 28:5 And Isaac sent away Jacob: and he went to Padanaram unto Laban, son of Bethuel the Syrian, the brother of Rebekah, Jacob’s and Esau’s mother.
When Isaac blessed Jacob and told him not to take a wife of the daughters of Canaan, this is showing that Jesus Christ will not take a wife from the sinners and worldly church members. ‘Arise‘, in Scripture, many time, shows RESURRECTION. God told Jesus, here, in type, to ARISE, and go to the house of thy MOTHER’S father. Why is he sending him to take a wife from among his MOTHER’S PEOPLE?
It is showing that the true Bride of Christ will come from the seed of the woman, Eve. She is this spiritual Mother. She is the one whose SEED WILL BRUISE THE HEAD OF THAT OLD SERPENT. So only those who are of this righteous SEED will become a bride to Jesus Christ. He is her seed. His wife will have to also come from HER SEED.
Take a wife from the daughters of thy Mother’s brother. See? Take a wife from thy Mother’s father, thy Mother’s brother. It has to be from that Holy Mother of all Living. It has to be from her father and her brother’s house. Then, He received the blessing.. God Almighty bless thee, make thee fruitful and multiply thee. It is God speaking to Jesus. After Jesus takes that wife from among his Mother’s family, He will be blessed and multiply, becoming a multitude of people. The True Christians, Eve’s children, will fill the world, someday, and bring about eternal peace.
And Give thee the blessing of Abraham, and to thy seed with thee. Ga 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. Ga 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Ga 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
See that proves that those of FAITH are the blessed seed of Abraham. So they are the seed of the woman, Eve, for her seed is the one who is blessed to stop that old serpent and fill the earth with righteousness.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Ga 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Ga 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
What promise is he speaking about here? It is that very first promise made to Eve, thy SEED shall bruise the head of the serpent. So Isaac clearly is from this promise made to Eve. So this clearly is speaking about HER CHILDREN. This is also solid proof that Christ is this promised SEED OF EVE.
There has never been any promise made to ADAM, the man, that HIS SEED will bruise the head of the serpent, for indeed, his seed is that serpent.
So then, all of this has to be speaking about the Mother, Eve.
Now for solid proof that all of this came down through Isaac: Ro 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Ro 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Ro 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Ro 9:9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son. (Sarah’s son was Isaac, the promised seed.)
Ro 9:10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
Ro 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
Ro 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. Ro 9:13 As it is written, Jacobhave I loved, but Esauhave I hated.
So we see here, full proof that Esau represented those whom God hated and Jacob represented all whom God loved. God hated the children of the flesh, = Adam. God loved the spiritual children of Faith, Jesus and his children, or the Seed of the Woman, Eve.
In Isaac shall thy SEED BE CALLED. So this proves that this message, about Thy Mother is true and exactly with Scripture. It clearly lays out that the Seed of Abraham, was Jesus Christ. The Word of God clearly shows that Jesus Christ is the promised Seed to Eve, who would bruise the head of that old serpent. It could be no one else.
So Eve has to be the Mother this is referring to. She is the one from whom the bride of Christ has to come. Jacob was forbidden by his Father to take a wife from anyone other than from his Mother’s family. It had to be Seed of His Mother. His Mother here, is clearly Eve. It is her Seed to whom all of this leads and pertains. We are blessed with faithful Abraham, if we belong to Jesus Christ, the seed of the woman, Eve. So then we also must be of the Seed of the Woman. We must also have this holy Mother of all living for our Spiritual Mother. She is the Mother of all living. She is the one who carried that righteous seed of Faith to her children. Thus, she was saved through ‘CHILD BEARING’. It means she bore righteous children of God. It is not speaking about the children of the flesh, here, but the children of FAITH. This is made crystal clear, in this message.
Mal 1:2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Mal 1:4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
Now why would God have indignation against ‘this’ people, forever? Here is the answer: Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Gen 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Ge 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Grace and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ. If God said those of the LAW are not of FAITH, and those of the flesh are not the children of God, but the children of FAITH are counted for the promised SEED, then one thing is sure, God hates those of the LAW, who are not of faith, but are of the flesh.
He drove out the MAN, out of Eden, because of his wickedness. He was perfect in the day he was created until INIQUITY was found in him. That is none other than the beautiful Son of God, Adam. He was not of faith. He took up LAW. Those scriptures in Galatians and Romans solidly prove that it is speaking of the difference in people of LAW and people of GRACE, OR FAITH. So then, faith and truth and grace are all the same thing. This is the quality of the children of the Mother’s seed. So we must be of faith, truth, grace, or the Seed of Eve, in order to be the Jacob, whom God LOVED.
This is all tied together, faith, righteousness, grace, truth, promised seed, Woman’s seed, Seed of Jesus Christ…these are all one and the same and can come from no other source, other than THY MOTHER’S HOUSE OR SEED, which is the children of Eve, the Mother of all Living.The Bride of Christ must come from the Seed of the Woman. That woman is Eve. Yet this woman is more slandered, lied about and cursed than any other person who has ever lived. May God have mercy on all who read this, and bring you out of that darkness, into his marvelous LIGHT.
By: Jo Smith ~~` Sept. 21, 2008
~~ Thy Mother, Part Three ~~
Gen 24:63 And Isaac went out to meditate in the field at the eventide: and he lifted up his eyes, and saw, and, behold, the camels were coming.
Ge 24:64 And Rebekah lifted up her eyes, and when she saw Isaac, she lighted off the camel.
Ge 24:65 For she had said unto the servant, What man is this that walketh in the field to meet us? And the servant had said, It is my master: therefore she took a veil, and covered herself.
Ge 24:66 And the servant told Isaac all things that he had done.
Ge 24:67 And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah’s tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother’s death.
There were ten virgins which all went out to meet the bridegroom. These ten virgins represent those in the churches who are trying to prepare to meet Jesus when He returns. We are on a journey to meet him, our Bridegroom. Those ten camels represent the power, or the Holy Ghost, which prepares us and carries us to meet our Bridegroom. We are inside a veil, which is our outward man, or human flesh. At even time it shall be light.
Isaac went out to meditate, as he anxiously awaited the coming of his Bride. He lifted up his eyes, and behold, the camels were coming. Rebekah also lifted up her eyes and saw Isaac. When she knew who he was, she lighted off the camel, to go to him.
If you think that the Word of God is JUST history, stories about these people’s lives, you are completely missing the true meaning of the Word of God. Those stories are fine, and enjoyable, but we need to grow up and mature in the Lord, and find the spiritual meanings, for our own day. There is much more to all of these ‘stories’ than just that. All of these things are in God’s word to teach us true Heavenly, spiritual matters. Each thing here, is representing something else, highly spiritual.
After the servant told Isaac all the things which he had done, Isaac brought Rebekah into his MOTHER’S tent and there she became his wife. Isaac loved Rebekah and was comforted after his mother’s death.
This is very significant that Isaac brought Rebekah into his MOTHER’S tent, to take her for his wife. His Mother, Sarah, on this side of the flood, is the MOTHER of the righteous, promised SEED, which is Jesus Christ. On the other side of the flood, Eve is this spiritual Mother. She is the Mother of all Living. This includes all the natural children, and also all the spiritual children. Her SEED is the Spiritual children. Her Seed is Spiritual, not natural.
The carnal minded can never understand the spiritual things, so their minds always go to the natural things, of human relationships and having natural babies. But this is SPIRITUAL. It is speaking about the heavenly bridegroom and the bride of Christ and their spiritual children.
The Mother’s tent shows that this is a continuation of the spiritual Seed which began in Mother Eve. It is HER spiritual line which is continuing as Isaac and Rebekah come together, both natural and spiritual.
Eve’s SEED is spiritual. It is the TRUTH of God, the Seed of God, which God placed into Eve, and she carried it to her spiritual children. It was in Abel, and after his death, it went into Seth. It then runs down through the spiritual people, until it comes to maturity and rest in Jesus Christ. He then takes this spiritual seed and produces all of God’s Holy Children, as he unites with his BRIDE in the Mother’s tent, or ourbodies.
Yes, our human bodies are the ‘carrier’ of this ‘unborn’ child of God, until the time of the resurrection, when that Manchild will be born into the image of his father, Jesus Christ. We are now a ‘woman with child’, both men and women, who have the Seed of Christ growing inside them. We are of that holy Seed which began in Eve.
Her Seed is NOT SPEAKING about her natural children, of which the first was Cain. Cain was NOT of that holy Seed. He was of Satan, the serpent, or Adam. Adam’s seed is not the natural children, either. It is that unholy seed of rebellion to God. So both of these seeds are spiritual. One is a holy Seed, from Eve, and the other is a satanic seed, beginning in Adam. He is the one through whom sin entered this world, not Eve. Their ‘natural’ children, can go either way. They can become spiritual, from the Seed of Eve, or they can become evil and wicked, from the unholy seed of rebellion, from their ‘father’ Satan, or Adam. Adam was a natural man; but he is also a spiritual man, who is wicked. His seed is this wicked seed. He is the natural Dad of both Cain and Abel. But he was the spiritual father of only Cain.
Eve is both a natural woman and a spiritual woman. Her children were both the natural children and also the spiritual children. She is the spiritual mother of the children of God. She is the natural mother of everyone.
Adam WILLFULLY sinned against God. That WILLFUL sin is UNFORGIVABLE. He sinned WILLFULLY after having known God, his power, his Word and the powers of the word to come, so for him, there is no forgiveness.
Eve was deceived, so her sin was NOT willful. She actually thought that Adam or that old serpent, had told her the truth and that she was doing God’s will. Those who claim that people are already ‘gods’, need to go learn WHY Adam wanted to take of that tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He said, God does know that we shall be AS GODS. So, he was NOT as a god until he partook of that forbidden fruit, of law.
Men are tempted when they are drawn away with their own lusts. So this agrees with the fact that Adam, the anointed cherub, of Eze. 28, lusted to be as God. He wanted to RULE over others, so he took up law, for that is the only means by which he could be worshipped as a god and rule over others. Under grace, this is not possible, so he willfully FELL from GRACE and took up LAW.
When Eve saw that this was wrong and displeased God, then she repented and was restored to her full fellowship with the eternal God, resulting is great hardships and persecutions on her and her righteous children. It is evidenced by Cain’s killing Abel. These things are revealed all through Scripture. Eve did not knowingly and willfully sin against God. So her sin was forgiven and she is the Mother of all Living. She is the ‘MOTHER’ of the Spiritual children of God.
Again, get this, her SEED, which would bruise the head of that old serpent, is the SPIRITUAL SEED, the children of God. It has nothing to do with natural children or natural childbirth. Those who can only see the natural here, are carnal minded, and blinded to all spiritual things or truth. Eve and Abel taught many to serve the True God, and led them out of that false ‘Adam-worship’. Thus she brought them to the truth God and became their spiritual ‘mother’, as well as their natural mother.
Now this had to repeat. A Virgin shall be with child and bear a son, who will be called the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace. So how did this come about? By that holy Seed, which was FIRST in thy Mother, Eve, and then traveled down into a righteous woman, called Mary. She performed that birthing of the NATURAL child as Eve had birthed natural children, and passed the Holy Seed into them. Mary birthed a natural child and then passed the Holy Seed into him, as Eve had done to her spiritual children. Then Jesus was a ‘woman-with-child’ as the Christ developed inside him.
Jesus birthed the Spiritual Child. Mary performed the Natural part, but Jesus performed the Spiritual part. Mary birthed a natural child. Jesus birthed a spiritual child. Mary also birthed a spiritual child, but it was her OWN SELF, BEING FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST AND SERVING THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD ALL HER LIFE. THEN SHE WILL BE RESURRECTED INTO THE IMAGE OF GOD’S DEAR SON, JESUS CHRIST.
So Mary’s manchild is her own ‘born again’ soul. Jesus’ manchild is his own ‘born again’ soul. That born again soul is that SPIRITUAL CHILD. It came from that Holy Seed, inside Eve. It matured inside Jesus Christ and came forth, the very first one being born from the dead, into resurrection of GLORY.
Only the truly Spiritual minded will be able to understand this message. But it is so clearly explained here, that I don’t see how anyone could NOT see it.
By: Jo Smith ~ Sept. 22, 2008
~~ Thy Mother, Part Four ~~
Ge 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Ge 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Ge 3:20 And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Ge 17:15 And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be. Ge 17:16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her. (notice this wording…’kings’ of people. It is speaking about the Kings in Christ Jesus.)
Ge 20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife. (His sister became his wife.)
(Notice also, that she was the daughter of his father, but not of his mother. This is showing that we all have the same spiritual father, which is our God, but not the same Mother. Each of our own individual selves, is the Mother of our Christ child.)
Mt 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. (Notice, the SAME person is his brother, sister and mother.)
Mt 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (He now leaves his ‘mother’ and cleaves to his wife.)
2ti 1:5 When I call to remembrance the unfeigned faith that is in thee, which dwelt first in thy grandmother Lois, and thy mother Eunice; and I am persuaded that in thee also.
Ro 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. (Now we are married to the one who was raised from the dead. So now that we are married to him, we can bring forth FRUIT unto God. This fruit is our CHRIST CHILD.)
Paul told Timothy, this faith was first in thy grandmother and thy MOTHER, and now in thee. See then, that it is showing that the Seed of Faith was still passing down from Mother to son or children. The ‘mother’ is the one who carries this seed. So it again, is speaking spiritual. A natural man can also be a mother, by being a carrier of the Seed. But it is SHOWN and revealed, in Scripture, by being a Mother, so that the truth of it is known spiritually.
A lot of spiritual revelation is among all of these verses. I pray God will bring it out. Abraham’s sister became his wife. Jesus said those who do the will of his Father are his brother, sister and mother. The mother is the carrier of the seed of faith. So if one is doing the will of the Father, they are carrying that seed of faith, which is CHRIST. So then that one is the mother of the Christ. Since they are also among others who are bearing this same Christ child, they are sister and brothers.
But there comes a great day when we die to this old self, and marry the one who was raised from the dead. We then, being his mother, sister and brother, become his WIFE. That Christ inside us has matured and come forth from the grave, into immortality, where it picks back up that old dead self, the mother, or carrier of that seed of Faith, then it marries that same one. That old self is now the WIFE of the resurrected Christ, which was the child growing inside that old mother.
Remember that Sarah had the revelation from God, to CAST OUT THE BONDCHILD, for the bond child shall not be heir with the free child. Since Abraham was father to BOTH, he did not want to send Ishmael away. But see, the things which these people went through, is not of their own doings, as it had to be, to reveal the spiritual things of God. Many people try to say that Rebekah and Jacob were evil, as they deceived Isaac. But see that is not the case. Those two people were being used by God, to reveal his truth and his way in this earth. So the things they did were ordered by God himself.
Rebekah had the revelation here, as did Sarah, when she did the things she did. She is the one who had the Word of God for what needed to be done there. Jesus Christ, being the SECOND BORN, had to be the one to inherit the Father’s blessings, so Rebekah had to see that Jacob received it. His being obedient to her, shows that Jesus was always obedient to his parents, both natural and spiritual. Sarah had to send away that bond child, to fulfill the Word of God. She was not wicked. She was obeying God. Rebekah and Jacob were not evil. They were obeying God.
So when people become carnal minded and judge these things as being wicked or wrong, they themselves are the ones in error, by not understanding spiritual things.
So Sarah had a revelation from God to CAST OUT THE BOND CHILDREN. See, we cannot allow the bond child, or earthly, first born, our self, to be the one living in us. We must CAST that ‘bond child’ out and allow the new Christ Child, or seed of Faith, to grow and be the one living in us. We must not try to serve God by law, for this is the bond child, also. We must serve God by pure FAITH, WHICH IS GRACE. If not, then that bond child is still the one who is standing in our way of receiving the blessing of glorification. The bond child shall NOT BE heir with the free child. So we must ‘die’ daily to that old self, or the bond child. Cast that bondage out of thy tabernacle, if you want to inherit glorification!
Oh my. Such glory. I do hope all who read this can see this glorious truth and revelation. See, the Christ child, the Seed of Faith, which was growing inside us, in our earthly lifetime, comes out of the grave, a glorified person, picking up that old body, in which the Seed of Faith lived, and bringing it into ONENESS or MARRIAGE with the Christ which was inside that old ’mother’ or carrier of that faith Seed. It was the very same way with Jesus Christ.
This is why almost everyone thinks, in error, that Jesus, the man born to Mary, was or is God or this Christ. But, see that is not the case. That babe, born to Mary, was a human being. But she placed that Seed of Faith into this child of hers. God gave this man the Holy Ghost and the Word of God. Thus Jesus was ’with child’. He was ’carrying’ a manchild, the Christ Child of faith, inside his heart. God was and is the Father of this Christ Child of faith. People see this and get it confused and think that God ’fathered’ that baby inside Mary’s womb. That is just not true. God did NOT put anything of God into that baby. God did not put the seed of God, or the Holy Ghost, or the Word of God, into that baby growing inside Mary’s natural womb.
God ’fathered’ his child inside the heart of Jesus, exactly as Jesus now does to all of us. So then, Jesus was a son of God, in exactly the same we are sons of God. God gave Jesus the Holy Ghost when Jesus was baptized. God was feeding the Word of God to Jesus all the days of his life and that Word-seed was growing inside Jesus, producing a SON OF GOD, THE CHRIST. This is why Christ, not Jesus, is that 42nd generation, In Matt. One. Jesus is generation # 41. Check it out and see!
This Christ is the part which was from everlasting to everlasting. This Christ, The Seed of Faith, The Word-Seed, is what was with God in the beginning. This Seed of Faith, mixes with our own spirit and thus a new child of God is born, carrying the same characteristics of God, the Father, and the nature of the ‘mother’ of this child, the human person, in whom the Seed is placed. So, Jesus Christ came forth out of the grave, having the same character of his Father, plus his very own nature. He is now the Son of the Father. But he is also now the ‘husband’ of that ‘mother’ in which this seed was carried, which was Jesus, the Son of Mary. This person, who was the sister of this Christ, inside Jesus, has now become his wife, as he marries this human person and they become ONE New person in the LORD.
He has now left his father and his mother, that earthly parent, and has married that person, making that person his eternal WIFE. Sound confusing? It is really quite simple. We simple have the Seed of God placed into our heart, in this life. That Seed is the coming child of God, yet still in the ‘womb’. And it will stay in that ‘womb’ until that old ‘mother’ comes out of the GRAVE into NEW LIFE. Then that Christ, which was residing inside that old ‘mother’, or carrier of that Seed of Faith, then mergers with that old human person, self, and they together, become ONE NEW MAN, glorified into the image of the one who beget him, which is Jesus Christ.
With Jesus, the one who beget that Child was God. So Jesus married the Lord God. He is now one with God. He is now our God. He is our Mother, our Father, our sister and brother, He will be our ETERNAL HUSBAND. But it is the Christ, the seed of Faith, which was MINE, IN THIS LIFETIME.
Jesus will still have his very own individuality, as will all others, who come to this MARRIAGE SUPPER. That marriage supper is when we come out of that grave, put on our glorified body, which marries that old body and it becomes wife to the new person, who is now eternal.
So you see, it is not Jesus who was the eternal Seed. That Seed was placed into Jesus to bring forth FRUIT unto God, the fruit being his own life, glorified into perfection. That inner Christ, the Seed of God, is the one doing the speaking in Jesus, saying, Before Abraham was, I am. People have mistaken this to be the human man, Jesus. It is not so. It is the same as I would say I am from above, being my inner child of Faith speaking. That inner child of Faith, will someday marry this old self, and they will become ONE, a new person in glory.
Adam and Eve were the original children of God, having been CREATED by God. They were glorified beings to start with. They had a power and glory of which we know NOTHING. They were set to be the PARENTS, both natural, and spiritual of ALL OF GOD’S CHILDREN. They both had the power to beget children, natural and spiritual. They would have given that spiritual Seed of Faith to every one of their children and they would have ALL been children of God, without any sin….. EXCEPT for ONE THING.>>>
And that is … Adam became wicked. Adam rebelled against God and picked up a carnal, wicked mind. This wicked, carnal mind is that serpent. But it is the mind of Adam, after he rebelled against God.
Then he deceived Eve into partaking of that law and setting up animal sacrifices to HIM so he could be as a god. Eve recognized that this was wrong and she repented and came back into full fellowship with God. She was given the Seed of Faith, brought back into Grace, and thus became the MOTHER of all the true children of God.
Eve not only birthed the natural children, but she then proceeded to try to get them all to obey and serve the truth God, and not Adam. Some of them listened to her and became sons of God. But most of them followed their daddy, Adam, that old serpent, and they picked up a satanic spirit, from Adam. These started with Cain, who was of that wicked one. Cain followed Adam all the way, even to killing his brother.
Eve proves that she is serving the true God, when she gave God the glory and blessed him for her children. Later, she shows that she is not the ‘mother’ of the wicked Cain, by denying him as HER SEED. She said, at the birth of Seth, God has given ME ANOTHER SEED IN PLACE OF ABEL. GET THAT. IN PLACE OF ABEL, WHOM CAIN SLEW.
So this proves that Cain was of the wicked seed of Satan, which is the corrupted Adam. Since these two people are the only ones who could be the ‘fathers’ and ‘mothers’ of the children, then the children had to all take of one of their parents’ spirits.
Those who served the true God, had received the Seed of Faith from their mother, Eve. Those who were wicked, as Cain, had received the seed of evil or Satan, from their daddy, Adam. This carried on until that flood. After the flood, Noah is now passing on the seed of Faith. Then along came Abraham and Sarah. Sarah is now passing along that seed of Faith into the children of God. She is the Mother of nations. He is the father of the righteous. He fathered both the natural children and the spiritual children, as did Eve.So now, I think God has given a full and true understanding in these messages about the MOTHER, of these spiritual truths. And I do thank him for giving me this glory.
Luke 11: 24. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25. And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. 26. Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
(Do you believe Jesus?) Do you believe this saying?
Here Is proof that a person can repent, become clean, have the evil spirits gone out of them, yet not be filled with the Holy Ghost.
That is what is means — that his ‘house’ (body) was swept and garnished. This means his life was cleaned up and he was living for God.
But he had failed to let the Holy Ghost come in and fill his house with another ‘spirit’ = the Holy Ghost.
So at some time later in life, the unclean spirit that had abode in this person earlier, is still seeking someone to get into, so he decides to go back ‘home’. And he does.
When he comes back to this person and checks him out, he finds that this person is going in his own strength of repentance in living clean. So He says to himself, uhuh. This person is all alone; I will get him again. So he had some ‘buddies’ out in the spirit world that had also been cast out of someone. And they too are seeking a body or house to get into.
So, this generous spirit decides not to be selfish – he goes back to find his ‘friends’ and takes seven spirits more wicked than himself back and they all get into this person, and the end of this person is worse than his beginning when he had only one evil spirit in him.
Peter agreed to this when he said it is better not to have known the right way to have known it and then turn from it. He said it is dogs returning back to their own vomit; hogs returning to their wallowing.
I plead with you and anyone else who reads this, do not let this happen to you. Go and be baptized in water in the Name of Jesus and receive the Holy Ghost before those evil spirits return to you. And they will, if you keep obeying man instead of God’s Word.
Don’t be too proud to be baptized in Jesus Name. If you are, he will some day reject you.
This is the message God has sent me to deliver. I am trying my best. Hope someone will receive it before it is too late for him or her.
Jo Smith–Oct. 11, 2002
Now in Oct. 30, 2003 I wish to add something to this message, something which God has only recently given me the understanding on. It must be a part of this message.
The Law Covenant of the OT has been done away with by God. He has totally rejected that covenant and will never pick it back up again. He never did want law. He never did want people to be under law. This is the tree which God commanded Adam not to eat of. It is death. It leads to death. It is that evil spirit. Yes, strange as it sounds this is the truth which the whole word of God is dealing with from the beginning until the end. It is to get people from under that law and into grace. This is the only hope of salvation.
You cannot come to God now by keeping laws. You cannot serve God under law. You cannot keep ten commandments and be pleasing to God. Going to Church is not going to make you pleasing to God. It will never take away your sins. It will never make you right with God.
Now God did away with that old law nation, or old covenant by letting it be nailed to that Cross on which Jesus died. IN other words it died there with Jesus. Jesus killed it with the Sword of the word. He took it into hell. But what happened after that? That old law head of mankind was healed. Yes, it was brought back up again and all the world wondered after this beast.
It had one evil spirit in it to begin with. But when the church picked back up that law, then it passed through seven churches and thus it picked up seven evil spirits more wicked than the first evil spirit which had been cast out of it. As it passed down through all seven churches in Revelation, it was repossessed with seven more evil spirits.
They who picked back up on serving God by their own works of the law were the ones Peter spoke of who were dogs returning to their vomit. They were the hogs returning to their mud-wallowing. See God had cleaned them all up from being under that law tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
At Calvary Jesus cleansed the whole world. Only those who pick back up that evil tree again are now dirty again. They are the ones to whom seven more evil spirits entered into. They become the one with eight evil spirits in them. This is the end of the way for them. They are now ready for destruction. They are now set to be plucked up by their roots and be cast into hell fire. Thus they are the ones who are twice dead; plucked up by the roots. Twice dead because they were killed at Calvary, but now having been picked back up by the church, or had that head healed, and now are dead through a polluted church system.
This is the Babylon Church, the seven churches in their idolatry. The whorish church of today is now full of all eight evil spirits. They are full of idols. They are full of devil worship. They are in worse shape than when they were under law in the OT. This church is the one who is the Old Jerusalem, the desolate, forsaken wife of whoredoms who has been refused, but has been repossessed with seven evil spirits, more wicked than the first one of law.
Come out of her God’s people. If not, you will receive of her plagues.
1. She has a name on her forehead, “mystery, babylon the great,”Rev. 17:5. This name is surely appropriate as far as Romanism is concerned. Paul called the Church a “mystery” because it was unknown to the Old Testament prophets, Eph. 3:1-12; 5:23-32. So here this apostate religious system is called a “mystery” because she was not known before her revelation to John. Some have tried to make a comparison between this whore and the Church, calling one the bride of Christ and the other the bride of Antichrist, but a vital truth has been overlooked in this. Antichrist has never wanted this whore. He tolerates her only until he has gained sufficient power to destroy her. He does not seek for her, love her, and nourish her as Christ does the Church, so there can be no comparison. In the second place, the Church is not the bride of Christ. (See Chapter Forty-Five.)
It is said that the papal crown bore the word “mystery” on its frontlet for some time, but it was removed by Julius III, after having his attention called to the accusation of this passage. The Roman Church has always shrouded herself in mystery. The mystery of baptismal regeneration, the mystery of miracle whereby the literal bread and wine are supposedly changed into the actual blood and body of Christ, the mystery of holy water and of the lights on altars, the mystery of plays, confession, and other rites and ceremonies, mumbled in a language that tends to be mysterious all go to help us to understand that this system is Babylon in mystery. These ordinances were unknown in John’s day but they are recognized now by all as part of the Catholic ceremony of mystery, thus identifying her as Mystery Babylon, and the only one that will meet the requirements of this prophecy in the last days. Even Catholic divines admit that this description fits their church. For instance, Cardinal Ballarmine says, “St. John, in his Apocalypse, calls Rome (the priestly term for the Roman Church) Babylon.” The celebrated French Prelate, Boussuet, in his exposition of Revelation says, “The features are so marked that it is easy to decipher Rome under the figure of Babylon.”
The Ancient Babylonian Cult
Since this is true, what is the historic relation of Babylon to the city of Rome and the Roman Church, and why should Romanism be called Babylon in mystery? That the cities of Rome and Babylon were related seems to have been well known in the earlier days. It is simple to trace in the archives of history the relation of Babylon to Rome and of Rome to the Roman Church. Let us look at the history of ancient Babylon.
This city was built by Nimrod, the mighty hunter, Genesis 10:8-10. It was the seat of the first great apostasy against God after the flood. Here the “Babylonian Cult” was invented by Nimrod and his queen, Semiramis. It was a system claiming the highest wisdom and ability to reveal the most divine secrets. This cult was characterized by the word “mystery” because of its system of mysteries. Besides confessing to the priests at admission, one was compelled to drink of “mysterious beverages,” which, says Salverte (Des Sciences Occultes, page 259) “was indispensable on the part of those who sought initiation into these mysteries.” The “mysterious beverages” were composed of wine, honey, water, and flour. They were always of an intoxicating nature, and until the aspirants had come under the influence of it and had their understanding dimmed they were not prepared for what they were to see and hear. The method was to introduce privately, little by little, information under seal of secrecy and sanction of oath that would be impossible to reveal otherwise. This has been the policy of the Roman Church and the secret of the power of the priests over the lives of men whom they could expose to the world for their sins that have been confessed to them. Once admitted, men were no longer Babylonians, Assyrians, or Egyptians, but were members of a mystical brotherhood, over whom was placed a Supreme Pontiff or High Priest whose word was final in all things in the lives of the brotherhood regardless of the country in which they lived.
The ostensible objects of worship were the Supreme Father, the Incarnate Female, or Queen of Heaven, and her Son. The last two were really the only objects of worship, as the Supreme Father was said not to interfere with mortal affairs (Nimrod III, page 239.) This system is believed to have come from fallen angels and demons. The object of the cult was to rule the world by these dogmas.
How the Ancient Babylonian Cult Spread
In the days of Nimrod this cult secured a deep hold on the whole human race for it was of one language and all were one people. Nimrod gained the title “Mighty Hunter” and “the Apostate” because of his success in building cities with walls to free men from the ravages of wild beasts which were multiplying against men, and because of his freeing men of the idea of God and His wrath. As a great deliverer and protector of the people and the head of the godless civilization at that time he would naturally have great influence upon the people. He led them astray to such an extent that they gloried in the fact that they were free from the faith of their fathers.
All tradition from the earliest time bears witness of this great apostasy, which continued to such proportion that people defied God to send another flood to destroy men by building a tower to escape such. The result was that God confused their language and scattered them throughout the earth. This Babylonian system was the one which the Devil had planned to counteract the truth of God. From Babylon it spread to the ends of the earth and we have record that Abraham was chosen of God from all these idolatrous nations to represent the true God. Through him God planned to bring man back to Himself. This explains how the different nations of the world have traditions and religions somewhat similar, with changes suitable to the individual nation.
After the nations were scattered abroad, Babylon continued to be the “seat of Satan” until it was taken by Xerxes in 487 B.C. The Babylonian priesthood was then forced to leave Babylon, so it moved to Pergamos, which was the headquarters for some time. When Attalus, the Pontiff and King of Pergamos, died in 133 B.C. he bequeathed the headship of the Babylonian priesthood to Rome. When the Etruscans came to Italy from Lydia (the region of Pergamos) they brought with them the Babylonian religion and rites. They set up a Pontiff who was the head of the priesthood and had the power of life and death over them. Later, the Romans accepted this Pontiff as their civil ruler. Julius Caesar was made the Supreme Pontiff of the Etruscan Order in 74 B.C. In 63 B.C. he was made Supreme Pontiff of the Babylonian Order, thereby becoming heir to the rights and titles of Attalus, who had made Rome his heir by will.
Thus, the first Roman emperor became the head of the Babylonian priesthood and Rome became the successor of Babylon with Pergamos as the seat of this cult. Henceforth, Rome’s religion has been that of Babylon. In the year 218 A.D. the Roman army in Syria, having rebelled against Macrinus, elected Elagabalus emperor. This man was High Priest of the Egyptian branch of Babylonianism. He was shortly afterward chosen Supreme Pontiff by the Romans, and thus the two Western branches of the Babylonian apostasy centered in the Roman Emperors who continued to hold this office until 376 A.D. when the Emperor Gratian, for Christian reasons refused it because he saw that by nature Babylonianism was idolatrous. Religious matters became disorganized until it became necessary to elect someone to fill the office.
The Babylonian Religion and Roman Christendom United
Damascus, Bishop of the Christian Church at Rome, was elected to this office. He had been bishop for twelve years, having been made such in 366 A.D. through the influence of the monks of Mount Carmel, a college of the Babylonian religion originally founded by the priests of Jezebel and continued to this day in connection with Rome. So, in 378 A.D., the Babylonian system of religion became part of the Christian Church, for the bishop of Rome, who later became the supreme head of the organized church, was already Supreme Pontiff of the Babylonian Order. All the teachings of pagan Babylon and Rome were gradually interspersed into the Christian religious organization. Soon after Damascus was made Supreme Pontiff, the rites of Babylon began to come to the front. The worship of the Roman Church became Babylonish, and under him the heathen temples were restored and beautified and the rituals established. Thus, the corrupt religious system under the figure of a woman with a golden cup in her hand, making all nations drunk with her fornication, is divinely called “mystery, babylon the great.”
The Effects of This Union Upon Organized Christianity
The changes that transpired in the doctrines and practices of the Roman Church by this union did not come all at once. The Roman Church of today is purely a human institution; her doctrines, which militate against God’s Word, were never taught by Christ nor the apostles. They crept into the church centuries afterward. It can be seen how easily the Babylonish rites were introduced into, and made a part of this church, when the greatest influence in it became the Supreme Pontiff of the Babylonian Order. The adherents of each religion would not compromise so a union of the two was the outcome. The following points in conjunction with the above history of the rise of the Catholic Church will show some of the pagan elements that entered into the church, many of which were taken from the Babylonian religion:
(1) The first after this union was the introduction of the worship of the saints, especially of the virgin Mary. Thousands of pagans entered the church in those times who were accustomed to worshipping the gods of towns and places, and who were not thoroughly Christianized. The veneration of saints and holy men became a worship. Saints were considered lesser deities, whose intercession availed with God. Places connected with the lives of holy men were considered sacred and pilgrimages resulted. Relics or bones of saints were believed to have miracle working power. The worship of the virgin Mary was set up in 381 A.D., three years after Damascus became head of the Babylonian Cult.
Just as the Babylonian Cult worshipped the “Queen of Heaven” and her “Son” and did not worship the “Supreme Father” because He, supposedly, did not interfere with mortal affairs, so the Roman Church has a similar worship in that they worship Mary as the “Mother of God” and her “Son.” The image of mother and child was an object of worship in Babylon long before Christ. From Babylon this spread to the ends of the earth. The original mother was Semiramis, the beautiful queen of Nimrod, who was a paragon of unbridled lust and licentiousness.
In the “mysteries” which she had the chief part in forming, she was worshipped as “Rhea” (Chronicon Paschale, Vol. 1, page 65), the great “Mother of the Gods” with such atrocious rites as identified her with Venus, the mother of all impurity. She raised Babylon, where she reigned, to eminence among the nations as the great seat of idolatry and consecrated prostitution. (Hesiod, Theogonia, Vol. 36, page 453). The apocalyptic emblem of the harlot with cup in hand was one of idolatry derived from ancient Babylon, as they were exhibited in Greece, for thus the Greek Venus was originally represented. (Herodotus, Historia, Book 1, cap. 199, page 92).
The Roman Church has taken this as her emblem. In 1825 a medal was struck bearing the image of Pope Leo XII on one side and on the other side Rome symbolized by a woman with a cross in her left hand and a cup in her right hand and a legend around her “Sedet Super Universum”; i.e., “The whole world is her seat.”
From this original, practically all nations have copied a similar worship and in each land the same figure is carried out under different names. In Egypt the mother and child are known as Isis and Osiris; in India, Isi and Iswara; in Eastern Asia, Cybele and Deoius; in pagan Rome, Fortuna and Jupiter-puer; in Greece, Ceres or as Irene with Plutus in arms, etc. In Tibet, China, and Japan the Jesuits were surprised to find the counterpart of the madonna (the Italian name for virgin) and her child as devoutly worshipped as in Rome itself. Shing Moo, the mother of China, is represented with child in her arms and a glory around her exactly as if a Catholic artist had painted her. Where did these nations get this common worship if not from Babylon before the dispersion in the days of Nimrod? Thus the worship of Mary in connection with her Son is of Babylonish origin for there is no such worship in Scripture.
(2) Our next allusion is to the supremacy of the pope over all moral and religious affairs of the church, and unlimited and immediate authority over the lives of all as was true of the Babylonian Pontiff, as we have seen in Chapter Twenty-Seven.
(3) The worship and veneration of images was begun early. It was first decreed by the Second Council of Nice, 787 A.D. In the ninth century certain emperors attempted to abolish such worship but it was so rooted in the people and the attempt was so resisted by the ignorant and the monks that the emperors gave up their persecutions and in 869 A.D. a synod at Constantinople declared in favor of them. Image worship is purely pagan and came from Babylon.
(4) Private confession to a priest grew from a small beginning in the second and third centuries to an elaborate system in the time of Innocent III, 1215 A.D., but it was not decreed by council until the Council of Trent, 1551. People were compelled to confess to a priest at least once a year and to do penance according to the degree of sins committed. Penances were fastings, scourgings, pilgrimages, etc. Without confession no one had a right to the sacraments. This is the same system Babylon had, which bound the people to the priest by fear of exposure or divine wrath.
(5) The “Sign of the Cross” had its origin in the mystic “Tau” of the Babylonian Cult. It came from the letter “T,” the initial letter of Tammuz (Ezek. 8:14), but better known in the classical writings as “Bacchus,” “The Lamented one” who was Nimrod, the son of Cush.
(6) The “Rosary” is of pagan origin. It is used for the same magic purposes in Romanism for which it was used in the Babylonian mysteries.
(7) The “Order of Monks” and “Nuns” was borrowed from the Babylonian Cult. The latter is an imitation of the “Vestal Virgins” of Pagan Rome, copied from Babylon.
(8) The outstanding festivals of Romanism, such as Christmas, Easter, St. John’s Day, Lady Day, Lent, etc., are Babylonian and have no relation to Christ and the Bible. None of them were celebrated in Christendom for 200 years after Christ. Note the following:
A. Christmas, literally “Christ-mass,” was copied from a heathen festival observed on December 24 and 25 in honor of the son of the Babylonian Queen Astarte, and was kept centuries before Christ. The Chaldeans called it “Yule Day” or “Child Day.” The Christmas tree so well known now was equally pagan and was common to all the heathen in those lands. According to a legend, on the eve of the day we call December 24 the “yulelog was cast into a tree” from which divine gifts from the gods were taken to bless men in the new year. This tree was common in the days of Jeremiah who warns Israel to flee from this heathen custom, Jer. 10:1-9.
There is no warrant that Christ was born on December 25. On the contrary it seems that He was born during warm days, for He was born in a manger and in the cold months from December to February the winters are too severe for one to be traveling to pay tax as Joseph did with his family. Shepherds were in the field when Christ was born and it was not customary for them to stay with their flocks in the open from October to February. The winters of that land are so severe that Christ said, “Pray that your flight be not in winter,” Mt. 24:15-22. The only thing given in Scripture whereby we are to remember Christ is the Lord’s Supper.
The apostles did not observe such a day as is common to us. Tertullian, writing about 230 A.D., lamented the fact that Christians were beginning to observe the custom of the heathen and said, “Gifts are carried to and fro, new year’s day presents are made with din, and sports and banquets are celebrated with uproar; how much more faithful are the heathen to their religion, who take special care to adopt no solemnity of the Christians.” The church after Constantine, full of pagans, became so corrupt that, in order to conciliate the heathen and swell the ranks of nominal Christians, adopted this heathen festival on December 25 and gave it the name of Christ-mass. It is not known when this was officially done but it was not observed as a ritual of the church until the fourth century. (See the International Encyclopedia on this subject.)
B. Lady Day is observed on March 25 and is also of Babylonian origin. It is the supposed day of the miraculous conception of Mary, while, among the heathen, it was observed as a festival in honor of Cybele, the Mother of the Babylonian Messiah. In Rome, Cybele was called Domina, or Lady, hence, Lady Day.
C. Easter also sprang from the fountain of Babylon. It is not a Christian name, since its derivation is from Ishtar, one of the Babylonian titles of the Queen of Heaven. It was the worship of this woman by Israel which was such an abomination in the sight of God, 1 Sam. 7:3; Jer. 44:18. Round cakes, imprinted with the sign of the cross, were made at this festival, the sign being, in the Babylonian mysteries, a sign of life. This day was observed centuries before Christ and is possibly a factor in the origin of our Easter and hot-cross buns. (See Mosheim’s History of the Church 1, page 370.)
The Easter eggs which play a great part in this day’s celebration were common in heathen nations. The fable of the egg affirms that “an egg of wondrous size fell from heaven into the river Euphrates; the fishes rolled it to the bank, where the doves settled upon it and hatched it and out came Astarte, or Ishtar, the goddess of Easter.” The word “Easter” is used one time in the Bible (Acts 12:4) and should be translated “passover” instead, as elsewhere in Scripture.
D. Lent which is observed for forty days, ending with Easter, is derived from the Babylonian system of mysteries. It is also observed today by devil worshippers of Kurdistan, who obtained it from the same source as did Rome. Humboldt found it practiced among the pagan Mexicans and Wilkinson informs us that it was a custom in ancient Egypt. Both Easter and Lent were introduced into the church in 519 A.D. A writer of this time says, “The observance of Lent had no existence so long as the Church remained inviolate.”—Cassianus. At the same time of the year that Romanism observes it the heathen observe it for a different purpose—as a celebration of the “rape of Proserpine” in which is culminated a period of unbridled lust after forty days of enforced abstinence in preparation therefor. How well does God liken Romanism to a whore, who professes to be the sole spotless bride of Christ, but in reality is the final great apostate religious system linked with the world and exercising power over the nations of the world under the ten kings until Antichrist comes to full power and destroys her in the middle of the Week.
Freeborn, I think this just about sums it up about what the Catholic Church truly is… Tweety
The Catholic peoples have roots in heretical doctrines!!
You are Catholic, your roots are not tracable back to Jesus!
“BELIEVERS” are IN The only CHRISTIAN Church Jesus formed.. The harlot church that calls itself Catholic is not that Church!! To be a believer you must believe the words of Jesus!
Catholics reject the words of Jesus! They instead believe their demon influenced Pope and his evil underlings.
You do NOT believe the same as CHRISTIANS.. AGAIN.. One more time.. “CHRISTIANS” believe in Jesus, not the god of Catholicism!!
Christians Teach: “Confession of sins to God”!.. Not you.. Not Catholics.. they pray to a demon that calls itself Mary for grace. They ask a mere mortal man who calls himself their Father to forgive their sins. That man has no power to forgive their sins, he can forgive them for trespassing against him, but he cannot forgive them of their sins. The harlot church prays to the creature who has no power to forgive sin.
Catholics TAUGHT .. “The Bread IS the Flesh of Jesus”.. Christians teach that the bread symbolizes Jesus’ flesh, but that it is not His flesh. Christians are not cannibalistic! Catholics are.
Catholics teach the heretical doctrine..”Peter is the Chief Apostle”! The Word of God does not!
Catholics TAUGHT..From the start of their harlot church.. “Praying for the Dead”!.. The Bible teaches no such thing, therefore Christians do not pray for the dead. Christians know that the dead cannot be prayed into heaven. If they did not trust Christ as Savior before their death, their home is in hell for all eternity and no amount of praying will change God’s mind about them after they are dead.
Catholics.. TAUGHT..from the start.. “Mary mother of God”! Christians teach God existed before and created Mary therefore Mary cannot be the mother of God.!
Catholics TAUGHT..from the start.. “Where the BISHOP IS.. There is the Catholic Church”.. The Word of God teaches no such doctrine!
Catholics TAUGHT..from the start.. “The Blood of Jesus is DRANK” to save men.. Christians teach the cup only SYMBOLIZES the blood of the New Covenant which was shed for many.
Catholics TAUGHT..from the start.. “The church Of Jesus is lead/ Entrusted to the Pope and his BISHOPS!”.. The Word of God doesn’t give popes any authority over the Church, nor does the Word of God give any Catholic authority in His Church.
Catholics TAUGHT..from the start.. “Baptism SAVES”!. The Word of God teaches that Jesus savees!
Catholics TAUGHT..from the start.. “The BISHOP has the AUTHORITY to TEACH and make DOCTRINE”…The Word of God tells us that the Word of God is given for doctrine, not the heretical bishops of the harlot church that calls itself Catholic! The Word of God nowhere teaches Bishops to make doctrine.
The Pope has a big head setting himself up as God over the church and will one day find himself in hell along with his evil church body.
Jesus built his CHRISTIAN Church.. He did not buiild the catholic’s idolatrous church!!
Catholics claim they can trace their roots back to Jesus, but satan has them blinded to make them think he is Jesus and his demon is Mary.
This is a message that I did on another board where we are discussing about the word that was preached in 1 Tim.3:16.
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
He is a Jesus only preacher and they will twist the word to prove their doctrine
He used the verses about the woman and said Jesus was the one sent to preach to the Gentiles.
My answer to him ¨C11C ¨C12C¨C13C¨C14C ¨C15C ¨C16C¨C17C¨C18C¨C19C¨C20C¨C21C¨C22C¨C23C¨C24C
by freeborn551 for everyone From: 짰Larry_W_B_1짤 (Original Message) Sent: 8/6/2005 5:34 AM The Serpent’s Seed 1-1 Dear God, the great and mighty God, Who formed all things by the power of His Spirit, and has brought Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, Who freely died for we sinners, the Just for the unjust, to reconcile us back into this marvelous fellowship that we have again with God. As we are taught in the blessed Word, that we had fellowship with Him before the foundation of the world, when the morning stars sang together, and the sons of God shouted for joy, way back before the foundation of the world. How do we know that that wasn’t at the same time that the Lamb was slain; that when God in His great thinking seen us shouting and rejoicing in our salvation through Jesus? And tonight we’re only got a foretaste of that great glory Divine which shall be revealed at His second coming. All sickness and sorrow will be done away with, then we’ll have a body like His Own glorious body, for we shall see Him as He is. Here as we look at our hands a withering, our hair’s turning gray, and shoulders stooping; we’re aware that we are mortals and headed towards the dust from which our heads are bowed now, and where we come from. But, Lord God, just as sure as You are God, You made a promise that we’d be raised up again in the last days, and we believe it. 1-3 Solemnly we stand with our faith tonight in Thy Presence, coming with boldness because that Jesus bid us to do it. Not upon any good thing that we have done, for we’ve done nothing right; but we come humbly, professing that we own this treasure because of His grace that’s been ‘lotted to us. Therefore, we come asking that You’ll bless us tonight in the bringing forth of the Word. For it is written that “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” And let the mouth of God be spoken tonight. Let the words come forth, and may It go deep into the hearts of we, the listeners, and be filled with Thy Spirit and Thy Presence. For we ask it in Jesus’ Name. Amen. 1-5 To–today and yesterday–last night, rather, and today we have been speaking on the subject, first to head it up, “Why We Are Not a Denomination,” and we have made it rather strong why we’re not a denomination, and why we do not believe in denominations, because we find it in the Bible that denominations was never ordained of God. It was ordained of the devil. And proved it by the Bible. And how that through denominations brings forth error. Now, we’re saying this to correct and to bring this tabernacle into a fellowship around the blessed Word of God. That our hopes was not built in what denominations says, or what any man says, it’s built upon what the Lord God has said. That’s the only way we can ever be corrected right. 2-1 And this morning I had five (I believe) different articles that’s come out through denomination that’s absolutely not spoke of in the Bible, that the Protestant churches are bowing down to and teaching for doctrine the same thing that the old mother prostitute Catholic church preaches. And come out into the Protestant church, and we bow to the same thing, which is contrary to anywhere in God’s Word. 2-2 The first denominational church… We looked it up this afternoon in the “Nicene Fathers,” history of the Nicene church. After the death of the apostles, there what come the Nicene fathers, and they went on for several years (three hundred and twenty-five years) finally came to–to Nicaea, France, where they had the–the great Nicene council. And in there they formed these dogmas that the Catholic church has now, and also that’s handed down to the Protestants. 2-3
Death and Hell Adventists, like Jehovah Witnesses, believe in soul sleep and do not believe in hell. Note how they have changed the word of God to fit their theology.Isaiah 66:24 KJV – And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.CW – They will see the dead bodies of those who have rebelled against me lying outside the city. It will be an abhorrent sight. But just as worms don’t stop until they devour the dead and fire doesn’t stop until it destroys, so the fires of the Lord will destroy the wicked and consume them all. Note – Christ quotes this verse on several occasions. Never, however, does He give this interpretation. Rather, He uses it as a description of hell.6 A similar change can be seen in Matthew 5:22, 29, 30, where the CW changes “hell fire” to “lose eternal life”. Matthew 10:28 KJV -And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.CW – Don’t be afraid that you might be killed. They can kill your body but not your spirit or your loyalty to me. Now if there is some thing to be concerned about, it’s that you don’t lose your faith in God. Note – The CW deletes the segment referring to eternal damnation, and instead alter the text to make it solely an exhortation to retain one’s faith in God. Matthew 18:9 KJV -And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.CW – If, for example, your eye places a wrong value on things, be willing to lose your eye to keep your moral innocence. If you have to make a choice, it’s better not to be great in this life and yet live forever than to lose your childlike innocence and have everything end with this life. Note – Not only does this verse do away with “fiery hell” but it also inserts “moral innocence” and “childlike innocence,” neither of which are mentioned in Scripture. Luke 16:19-30
This is the familiar parable of Christ about the rich man and Lazarus. The CW introduces teaching with these words: “You keep telling people the Jewish fable about a rich man.” The revision makes it appear that Christ is refuting a Jewish myth, when in reality is proclaiming the spiritual truth of the parable. One can readily see how this “Bible” which proclaims by its title, Clear Word, to be an accurate rending of Scripture is perhaps, one of the most deceptive Bibles of recent times. For 150 years Seventh-day Adventists have called the Roman Catholic Church “the beast” for allegedly omitting 2 verses of the law against images. Yet they have now made hundreds of revisions in their Bible.7 Each addition is itself an admission to some part of their teaching that lacks Bible support. Each deletion and change likewise admits to some part of their teachings which the Bible refutes. These changes are made to uphold E.G. White’s nonbiblical views. However, by committing this which God, they place themselves above God Himself. In Revelation 18:4 God calls His people to come out of Babylon, “That ye receive not of her plagues.” “Babylon” pictures false religion and false religious practices. Any church that would alter God’s word which He says is “forever settled in heaven”, or promote a Bible which does, is thus part of Babylon the Great, which is fallen. If you love Jesus, obey His call to “come out of her”! 1 Fundamental Beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists [Online]. URLhttp://www.adventist.org/pages/frameset_belief.html. 2 Psalm 12:6; John 17:17 3 Romans 1:25ff; Ezekiel 5:6; Revelation 22:18,19; 21:8 4 Fundamental Beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists. Emphasis added. 5 See Dale Ratzlaff, Sabbath in Crisis, (Sedona, Az: Life Assurance Ministries,1990), pp. 233-248 for a full exegesis of this text. 6 Mark 9:38-48. 7 The Clear Word was printed by the Review and Herald Publishing Association and is sold in Adventist Book Centers throughout the country.
I have never seen such junk in all my life. I know that they are all Hell-Bound now. Tweety
The Clear Word Bible: Is It the Word of God?
By Dale Ratzlaff and Verle Streifling
The Seventh-day Adventists express a firm belief in the authority and inerrancy of Scripture. Their statement of beliefs claims, The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration through holy men of God who spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to man the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God’s acts in history.1
Despite this affirmation of the character of the Bible, the SDA Church demonstrates a different approach to Scripture in its popular Clear Word Bible. The many changes made to the biblical text in the Clear Word Bible are ultimately destructive to the integrity of God’s Word.
The gravity of deliberately changing the meaning of God’s word cannot be overemphasized. Psalm 138 equates the sacredness of God’s Word with His holy name: “Thou hast magnified Thy word according to all Thy name.” Deuteronomy 4:2 says, “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it.” Proverbs 30:5, 6 reiterates this point: “Every word of God is pure.Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” Since God’s Word is pure and truth,2 any changes to His Word will ultimately change the truth of God into a lie, with disastrous consequences.3
Christians should inquire as to why anyone would want to make numerous additions, deletions and changes to God’s word. True, some Christians allow paraphrases that interpretively present God’s word in order to make it plain for the current generation. What is indicated, however, when a paraphrase deliberately revises God’s Word? The belief that additions, deletions and changes need to be made is a clear sign of doctrinal weakness. This article will show that The Clear Word Bible has changed God’s Word so that it supports Adventist doctrines in general and writings of their prophetess, Ellen G. White, in particular. Her writings are still held by the SDA church to be “a continuing and authoritative source of truth.”4 Following are just a few examples where the Clear Word Bible alters the statements of Scripture to make it line up with Adventist theology. To illustrate this assertion, several passages in the CW (The Clear Word Bible) will be compared with the KJV (King James Version or Authorized Version).
Seventh day Sabbath
Adventists teach that observing the seventh-day Sabbath is the seal of God and will become the final test of loyalty to Christ for all Christians.
Genesis 2:2-3
KJV – And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
CW – Then on the seventh day of creation week, God stopped to enjoy what He had made and to rest in the beauty of it all. So He blessed the seventh day and set it apart as a day of spiritual refreshment and joy.
Note – The CW makes the seventh day part of “creation week” rather than the celebration of a finished creation.
Exodus 5:5
KJV -And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them rest from their burdens.
CW – You’ve created enough problems by making them rest every week on your Sabbath.
Note – The CW describes the rest as occurring every week on the Sabbath, whereas in reality Moses requested an isolated three day period in which the Israelites could worship God (see verse 3 in the KJV).
Exodus 16:5
KJV – And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.
CW – On the sixth day they should gather twice as much as on the other days so as to have enough for the seventh day, which is the Sabbath, the day I set aside for worship and rest.
Note – The addition “which is the Sabbath, the day I set aside for worship and rest,” does not appear in any biblical manuscript.
Exodus 31:13-14, 16
KJV -Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people …Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
CW – Say to the people, “Most importantly, remember to keep the Sabbath holy because it is a very special day for me, and it’s a day of rest for you. It’s a sign between you and me for all time to show that you are the people whom I have chosen and set apart. The Sabbath is holy and anyone who desecrates it by working on that day will be put to death, since that would be an act of treason against God’s government. My people are to keep the Sabbath, celebrating it as a sign that they belong to me.”
Note – The CW purposefully revises the text to make it appear that the Sabbath is intended for all people, not just for Israel, as the Bible teaches. In verse 13 it changes “children of Israel” to “people” and in verse 16 it changes “children of Israel” to “My people,” and “a perpetual covenant” to “a sign that they belong to Me.” To justify making the Sabbath observance a universal requirement it also adds, “Since that would be treason against God’s government to verse 14.
Leviticus 23:3
KJV – Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
CW – There has always been the weekly Sabbath.
Note – The CW replaces the biblical institution of the Sabbath with the statement that the Sabbath has always existed.
Ezekiel 45:17
KJV – And it shall be the prince’s part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.
CW – It will be his duty to provide these national offerings on all appointed festivals with their special Sabbaths, including the monthly festival of the New Moon. He is to bring grain offerings, whole burnt offerings and peace offerings for an atonement for the nation as a whole.
Note – The “feasts,” “new moons,” and “sabbaths” respectively signify the yearly, monthly, and weekly celebrations. The phrase is a virtual formula used in numerous places in the Old Testament in both ascending and descending order. In order to prevent the weekly sabbath from being associated with the whole sacrificial system done away with by the New Covenant, the CW destroys the word order to make sabbaths refer to the yearly feasts instead of the weekly.
Acts 20:7
KJV -And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
CW – After sundown on Saturday night, the believers got together for a fellowship meal and to say good-by to Paul. That evening he spoke to them until midnight, after which he hoped to get a few hours sleep before leaving early Sunday morning.
Note – The CW calls this a Saturday night meeting, changes “break bread”, a term used by the early church for communion, to a fellowship meal and to say good-by to Paul. Such revision of Scripture completely changes the focus of this verse to fit Adventist theology.
Colossians 2:16
KJV – Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.
CW – Don’t let anyone control you life by giving you a set of ceremonial rules about what to eat, what to drink and what monthly festivals or special Sabbaths to keep. All these rules were given as a shadow of the reality to come and that reality is Jesus Christ.
Note – Colossians 2:16 is a very important verse in that it shows clearly that the Seventh-day Sabbath is only a shadow of Christ. This verse should be studied in its context and also compared to its Old Testament parallel, Ezekiel 45:17 (above) When the terms “festival (or equivalent), new moons and Sabbaths are used together in the Old Testament the word Sabbath always refers to the seventh-day Sabbath. Also, these terms are usually used in either ascending or descending sequence: festival (yearly) new moons (monthly) Sabbaths (weekly) or Sabbaths (weekly), new moons (monthly), festivals (yearly).
These two well established patterns make it certain that the seventh-day Sabbath is in view in Colossians 2:16 and this fact undermines the whole SDA emphasis on the seventh-day Sabbath. Note how the CB alters both Colossians 2:16 as well as the Old Testament parallel text.
Hebrews 4:4
KJV -For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
CW – That’s why at creation He gave man the seventh-day Sabbath, not only as a reminder of creation week, but also as a symbol of spiritual rest. According to the Scriptures, God Himself rested on the seventh day and enjoyed this special time with man.
Note – The CW states “according to the Scriptures,” but then adds to the Scriptures such phrases as the “symbol of spiritual rest” and the “special time with man.”
Hebrews 4:9
KJV -There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
CW – So there still remains the offer of spiritual rest that God intends for each generation to have, of which the Sabbath is a symbol.
Note – The biblical manuscripts make no reference in this verse to spiritual rest or the Sabbath as a symbol.5
Revelation 1:10
KJV – I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day.
CW – On Sabbath morning when I had gone to the rocky island shore to meditate and worship.
Note – The CW adds the concluding clause to reinforce Adventist liturgical practices.
One can see by the examples listed above that The Clear Word Bible makes numerous deletions and additions, revising the Word of God to make the Bible teach what it does not teach: the Adventist doctrine of required universal observance of the seventh-day Sabbath for all peoples.
The real danger of teaching that anti-Christ is one particular man, or time, is this…. it keeps everyone from realizing that the real danger is SELF.
Here is the proof:
Ro 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Eph 4:22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; Eph 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness Col 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Col 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; Col 3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him: Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all. See. all of the above shows us that the trouble is in our OLD MAN, which is first-man, Adam, or human nature.
As in Adam, all die; so in Christ shall all be made alive. We must crucify our old man, or first, Adamic nature, for it is the enemy of God. If people constantly are made to look for a bad pope, some other leader, or such, to be the man of sin, or anti-Christ, then they will not see that the trouble is in ourselves and we must destroy that old way, and become new creatures in Christ Jesus. So Adam is the man of sin, the one through whom sin entered this world, It is in everyone, until Jesus takes it out and fills us with the Holy Nature of God, by the Holy Ghost. Sure the popes are bad. but then so is all sinners. some have more power than others, but the power to send anyone to hell is only that person themselves. Popes killed millions, but they could not take Salvation from them. Only a disobedient heart can do that to any of us. So, antichrist is the disobedient heart.
Do you know what the tree of life is? Think on this, for your own sake. Do you truly know? or even wish to know? Do you think it is important, or not?
How many ways does scripture tell us give us eternal life? Tree of life? River of life? Believing? Receiving Holy Ghost? Living Holy and enduring till the end? Words of life? Well of living water? Eat my flesh and drink my blood, said Jesus.
Now which of these ways do you have or intend to have? Is that tree a natural, earthly tree, as some false teachers declare? If so, where is it? What kind is it? How are we to find it and eat of it? Then how about eating his flesh? How are we to do that? Or drink his BLOOD? my, my.
So if the tree of life is in heaven, how are we to get there, before acquiring Life? Then why did Jesus die for us, if there is another way of obtaining eternal life?
If Jesus himself is this tree of life, are you then saying that MARY GAVE BIRTH TO THE TREE OF LIFE?
If so, then she is of more power that it is, for she gave it life or birth. … a tree?
Did Mary actually birth the TREE OF LIFE, OF WHICH WE MUST….EAT…TO HAVE ETERNAL LIFE?
If Jesus was speaking of his natural human body, when he said, eat my flesh, then Mary is that tree’s mother. Since Jesus himself, is now in heaven, how are we going to get a bite of his body and a drink of his blood? especially since flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven.
That false doctrine kind of leaves (us) in a great dilemma, right?
Ask your paid preacher to answer these questions for you and give me your answer.
Most people are in total confusion about these things. Two nights ago, I had really been praying for God to take me deeper into the word. As I was praying and mediating, God said to me “thousand does not mean numbers”. Well, I knew that God had said it to me. As always, when he tells me something I seek for proof in the Word. I asked Him, then what does it mean to you.
I looked up ‘thousand’ in the Hebrew dictionary. It showed that this word’s original meaning was not a number, but it meant to learn, then to teach, utter. It meant the mother, the bond of the family; it meant the ox head, which it said, was the first letter of their alphabet. The ‘ox’ is the first stage of Christian experience; the first head of the four faced living creature.
Then, I looked up twelve; this has almost the same meaning; not a number. Then, cubic, this also meaning the same thing. Year also has this kind of meaning; so does, day, time, and month.
So, then the next night, the Lord kept me awake almost all night showing me things I had never known before.
The ‘thousand’ years is not referring to a certain number of years. It is a condition of a certain time. The 144,000 does not mean that many people. The 12,000 sealed does not mean that many people. It has not one thing to do with ‘how many’. Twelve means, in the Hebrew tongue of the Scriptures, to double, and other things I will not take the space to type here. You look these things up, and study it.
12 x 12 gives the 144. This is doubling it. The description of the Holy City shows the gates to have on them the names of the 12 tribes of Israel; not the natural people, but the true people of God; from all nations.
The 12 foundations has the names of the 12 apostles; this means they laid the foundation; the new testament teachings. All of the true Christians are in this City.
The walls of 144cubics. But this, is not a distance measure. It is made up of all God’s people. It said the height and breath are equal = 4 square; but this is not showing architecture; it shows that the o.t. and n.t. saints are all there as part of this Holy City.
The 144,000 is not how many; it shows that after he sealed those teachers (the 12,000 from each tribe) the great multitude, of Rev.7:9 came in. He said they were from ALL nations, kindreds, peoples, and tongues. Every one of them; this includes the natural Jews and everyone else. This is all of God’s people from the beginning with Eve.
The 1,000 years is also not a certain number of years. I will go into this in another message.
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Since God has shown me the new revelation of the mingling of their seeds, I came to see more on this kind of ‘understanding’. Mis-understanding these things has led the world into complete error and darkness and telling lies against God and his Word.
God said a DAY with him, is as a THOUSAND years. and a thousand years is as a DAY.
So going by the above revelation, we see that it is not as man keeps time. Even by our method, look at this: we have 24 hours in a DAY. But when the 24 hours is completed, we do not say, it is hour 23 or 24. We say it is another DAY.
Same with minutes: 60 minutes make an hour. But when the hour is up, we did not lose the 60 minutes. They are still there. We just say another hour is passed. See, the minutes are still there, in the hour; the hours are still there in the day. yet it took the 24 hours to complete a day.
So it is with God. When God told Adam, in the DAY you eat, you will die, we find that this did indeed happen. Within that thousand years, (making up that one day), Adam died. Not one of those men ever made it to the full DAY, for God had pronounced it so…that they could not now live a full day, which was a thousand years.
So without God revealing these things to one, they have no idea what God is speaking of; yet they just go around teaching all kinds of made up junk or lies.
We all need to be very careful to say only what God said and wait until He reveals more truth to us to speak.
What is Gnosticsim?It comes from the word “gnosis” meaning to know. Gnosticism was a philosophical system built on Greek philosophy. It added a Christian flavor when Christ impacted the world. Promoters of this ancient view were Simon Magus, Marcion, Saturninus, Cerinthus and Basilides. The Gnostics are traced to Carpocrates, and were supported by Valentius, Theodotus, and Artemas.Gnosticism was built on Greek philosophy that taught matter was evil and the Spirit was good. They taught docetism, a dualism which promoted a clear separation between the material and spiritual world. Christian Gnostics said since matter was evil, God could not really incarnate in a human body, He only appeared in human form and only appeared to suffer, it was an illusion. It was stated when Jesus walked on the sand you could know by seeing his footprints that were left. In this Jesus could be a pure spiritual being in an evil world and not be contaminated by it. The Gnostics supposedly had knowledge of God that was exclusive. They considered themselves superior to the average Christian. The Gnostics prior to Christianity taught that man is composed of body, soul, and spirit. The body and the soul are man’s earthly existence, and were considered evil. Enclosed in mans soul, is the spirit, a divine substance of man. This “spirit” was asleep and ignorant and needed to be awakened. It could only be liberated by this special knowledge, that would be called by the modern term illumination. (This teaching is also found in Caballa.)Writers of the New Testament (the apostles) condemned the Gnostic teachings. There are numerous epistles that address this ancient heresy that is now having a revival. Paul emphasized a wisdom and knowledge that comes from God and does not concern itself with idle speculations, angelic visitations, fables, and a amoral lifestyle (Col. 2:8-23; 1 Tim. 1:4; 2 Tim. 2:16-19; Titus 1:10-16). Paul addresses the Gnostic influences in portions of Colossians as a direct threat to Christ being our salvation and His being sufficient in all things. To overcome the indulgences of the flesh (the “Colossian Heresy” ) the Gnostics taught a false philosophy, which denied the all-sufficiency and pre-eminence of Jesus Christ (Col. 2:8). When he wrote that “in him dwells All the fullness of the deity bodily” it was a rebuttal against the Gnostics.Ethical behavior among the Gnostics were on two ends of the spectrum. Some tried to separate themselves from all earthly evil in order to avoid contamination, other Gnostics were libertarians. The exclusive spiritual knowledge meant their having the freedom to participate in all sorts of indulgences. Since they had received divine knowledge and were enlightened, it didn’t matter how they lived in the body, because the flesh was evil.This became a serious issue even after the apostles. We read the refutations of the Gnostics by the early church fathers that were theologians and apologists. Some of the more important ones are Irenaeus, Against Heresies; Hippolytus,Refutations of All Heresies; Epiphanius, Panarion; and Tertullian, Against Marcion. Irenaeus (A.D. 130-200), who had firsthand experience of Gnostic teaching, called those who blaspheme the Creator “agents of Satan” (Irenaeus, Against Heresies 5.26.2). Hippolytus, in a graphic description of certain Gnostics who called themselves the Naasenes (from the Hebrew nahas, “snake”) or Ophites (from the Greek ophis, “snake”), who were worshipers of the serpent. Because they received secret knowledge, as the serpent offered to them what he offered Eve in Genesis. Irenaeus describes the vision of Marcus the magician who sees the Supreme Tetrad descended from invisible, unnameable places in the Pleroma in female form to reveal to him something never before revealed to God or man, who he really was and how he came into being.Some of the Gnostic documents are Letter to Rheginus, Treatise on the Three Natures, Apocalypse of Adam, the Gospel of Matthias, Acts of Peter, and Acts of Thomas. The Apocryphon of James, The Acts of Peter, the twelve apostles, the treatise on the resurrection, three editions of the Apocryphon of John with the creation story reinterpreted. In the early church there were so-called infancy gospels that were written to fill in the details of the early unrecorded years of the life of Christ. “The Birth of Mary,” a work written in the middle of the second century; “The Protoevangelium of James,” written about the same time; the first “Gospel of Infancy,” composed about A.D. 400; which narrates the birth of Mary to innocents. Theses were stories circulating at the beginning of the second century all the way through the fifth century. These works included stories of Jesus forming clay figures of animals and birds that he made walk, fly, and eat. Another account has a child who runs into Jesus and falls down dead. These examples are representative of the fanciful nature of the accounts. It has been proven that Islam had taken stories from these apocryphal writings.It was the apostle Paul who warned in Galatians 1 “If we or angel from heaven brings any other gospel, they are accursed. Notice that he includes he himself among the “we” as the apostles, making the point that anyone can find themselves removed from the truth if they do not hold fast to the truth. So even a witness of Christ in the early church can be subject to this. They held themselves to a higher standard.For more on Christian GnosticismThe Christian Gnostic teaching is traced by historians to Simon Magus a magician in Samaria. He is said to have written the Gnostic work entitled The Great Revelation in which Simon is the Messiah, not Jesus. Menander was one of Simon’s disciples. He preached that those who followed him would not die, and that instead of Jesus being crucified it was Simon Magus.Their philosophical system had a structure of emanations that began with God the supreme self existing Spirit who through epochs of time emanated from Him other beings, called AEons (Gr.pleroma-fulness). Through them He limited His own infinite being manifesting in each, one of His divine attributes. Since matter was evil God could not have created the world directly. The gap between the spiritual world and the physical world was bridged by a series of emanations. Then this divine Spirit called AEon united himself to the material body of Jesus. Christ was descended from the heavenly stratosphere and united himself with a person whose body was formed out of psychic substance. So He was not truly God nor human. Cerinthus in the late 100’s taught the Gnostic teaching of the existence of AEons and emanations from the eternal God. Also that Jesus was the natural Son of Joseph and Mary and the Christ came upon Him at His baptism and left him at the crucifixion (like the Ebionites and the New Age teaches today), so only a man was crucified. Salvation to the Gnostics came by knowledge and experience. Those who did not have this knowledge (esoteric truth) were associated with ignorance. They received direct revelation from the Spirit which was more important than the word.They used allegorical interpretations, spiritualizing literal meanings. Other promoters were Basilides and Saturninus in the early second century and Marcion, Valentinus, and Tatian, who was formerly orthodox fell into this view later on in his life. Iraneaus took the time to research and read their writings and spoke with them and became their greatest opponent debating them. He wrote, “These men falsify the oracles of God and prove themselves evil interpreters of the good word of revelation. They also overthrow the faith of many, by drawing them away, under a pretense of [superior] knowledge, from Him who rounded and adorned the universe; as if, forsooth, They had something more excellent and sublime to reveal, than that God who created the heaven and the earth, and all things that are therein.” (Iranaeus, Against Heresies, Book 1)From The Evangelical Dictionary of Theology “The Valentinian solution to the problem of evil is that the good god (the ultimate depth) with his consort (silence) initiates the birthing process of (or “emanates”) a series of paired deities. The last of the subordinate deities (usually designated as Sophia, wisdom) is unhappy with her consort and desires, instead, a relationship with the ultimate depth. This desire is unacceptable in the godhead and is extracted from Sophia and excluded from the heavenly realm (pleroma). While Sophia is thus rescued from her lust, the godhead has lost a portion of its divine nature. The goal, therefore, is the recovery of the fallen light. But the excluded desire (or lower Sophia) is unaware of its fallen nature, and depending on the various accounts, either it or its offspring, the Creator, begins a “demiurgical” or birthing process which partially mirrors the “emanating” process in the pleroma and ultimately results in the creation of the world. The upper godhead (pleroma) by its divine messenger (often called Christ or the Holy Spirit) tricks the Creator Demiurge into breathing into man the breath of life, and thus the light particles are passed to a light-man. The defense strategy of the lower godhead (realm of the Demiurge) is that the lightman is entombed in a body of death which, under the direction of the Demiurge, has been formed by its pseudosubdeities, also known as “the fates” or identified with the realm of the planets. The Garden of Eden story is then transformed so that the biblical tree of the knowledge of good and evil becomes a vehicle of knowledge (gnosis) established by the heavenly or pleromatic realm. But the tree of life becomes a vehicle of bondage and dependence established by the demiurgical realm. The divine messenger from the pleroma encourages man to eat from the tree of knowledge; and in so eating, man discovers that the jealous Creator-Demiurge (often linked with misspelled forms of Yahweh such as Yaldabaoth or Yao) is not in fact the ultimate God but really an enemy of God. Man, as a result of divine help, thus comes to know more than the Creator. In anger the Creator casts man into an earthly body of forgetfulness, and the pleromatic realm is forced to initiate a process of spiritual awakening through the divine messenger. The divine messenger is frequently identified with the figure of the Christian’s Jesus Christ, but such identification has some very significant alterations. Since the divine realm is basically opposed to the creation of the lower realm, bodies at best are part of the created process and therefore need only to be regarded as vehicles which the divine may use for its own purposes. The divine messenger Christ, for the purpose of modeling the divine perspective, “adopted” the body of Jesus at a point such as the baptism and departed at a point such as just prior to the crucifixion. It is the risen “Jesus” or Christ, devoid of bodily restrictions, that based on the modeling has power to awaken man from his sleep of forgetfulness. This assumption of the body of Jesus by the divine messenger is generally termed as adoptionism” and is related to docetism, wherein Christ merely appears to be a man. Gnostics are those set within a world where they are the spiritual persons (pneumatikot) who possess the light particles and need only to be awakened in order to inherit their destinies. In the world there are also said to be psychic persons (psychikoi), who are a grade lower and need to work for whatever salvation they may be able to attain. The Gnostics often identified such psychics with Christians and understandably irritated the Christian heresiologists such as Irenaeus. The third division of this view of humanity is composed of material person likoi or sarkikoi), who have no chance to inherit any form of salvation but are destined for destruction. Accordingly, it should be obvious such a view of anthropology is very deterministic in orientation. (pp. 445-446 The Evangelical Dictionary of Theology Edited by Walter Elwell)
God has laid this message heavily on my heart. So many will try to reach heaven, but will fail; so said Jesus = many shall seak to enter in and will fail.
Now why is this? It is simply because they seek to come in some other way than the one and only way that God said we must come in by: THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
Then again, Paul warned us that they would bring in another ‘jesus’. This ‘jesus’ is an idol, not at all matching what God’s word tells us about the true Jesus. Jesus taught us to SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES. Again, study to show yourself approved to God.
So then why is it that the entire church-world is following the false ‘jesus’? They failed to obey and SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES.
I will be bringing in many different portions of messed up ‘religion’ in this message. So read it all.
First: WHOSE NAME DO YOU CALL OR GO BY OR TESTIFY FOR?
This is a big place where many are totally missing God and his truth.
if my people, which are calledbymyname, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
There now, the above tells us that we must be called by HIS NAME.
But churches are full of people who want to go by some other name; not the name which God told us we MUST GO BY = THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
You might say, well I go by his name…. but do you really? Do you say, I am baptist? not the name of Jesus, now is it?
You may say, I am methodist; again, not the right name.
Many say, I go by Branham. I testify for Branham. I declare that you MUST believe in this man, branham, to be saved or in the Bride of Christ? Bride of Christ? Then why the name, branham?
These deceived folks, going by branham, go so far as to declare that he is an OT type PROPHET. So let’s explore the only place for truth on this matter; (see, they did not obey Jesus and search the right source = the Scriptures.)
Well, I did, and here is what I learned:
Hebrews 1 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Now the above verse tells us very clearly that God only spoke to the fathers by the prophets, IN TIME PAST. But now, in these last days He speaks by his SON.
So to declare that we have/had a PROPHET in these last days, is flat denying that God only speaks to us in these days, by his SON. It is denying the only name under heaven whereby we must be saved = THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.
Lets go further on this subject:
1 Corinthians 3 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
3 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. 2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.
Notice verse 4: Paul said those who claim to be of one certain man, even himself or another important person in the church, they are CARNAL. Does not scripture say to be carnal minded is DEATH?
He further stated that we are ALL ONE. So then, see that calling yourself by some human man is separating this ONENESS of God’s people and sinning by being partial? You do set one member of Christ, (if they are in Christ), above some other member and this is SIN.
Further, Paul stated that every member, or joint of the body of Christ should supply NOURISHMENT to this body. This means that each and ever member of Christ should receive revelation, or SPIRITUAL MEAT, FLESH, BREAD OR FOOD, from God, and then be able to feed this nourishment to the body of Christ.
But what do ‘churches’ do? They set one member of this body up above the others, call him ‘pastor’ and PAY him to do this work, and thus deny this to all other members. Sure they do. Just let one ‘insignificant’ member of this ‘church’, begin obeying Jesus, studying the Scriptures, and have God teach him….. and see if this church ever allows this little member a chance to give this FOOD to the body. They most certainly will not. And if this member does tell his truth to someone, outside the ‘church’, they will black his name and run him out.
So when deceived folks run around declaring that only this one ‘man’ whom they are testifying for can declare truth, they are in fact denying the command for all members of Christ to study and supply nourishment to the body of Christ. Thus, they also excuse themselves from the command to search the scriptures and this is precisely why they are so deceived. This is exactly why they failed to understand that in the New Testament times, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PROPHET TO WHOM WE MUST GO FOR TRUTH OR HEALING OR SUCH.
Now I will give you several scriptures PROVING that no such prophets exist since John the Baptist. (NT prophets merely have the gift of prophesy which any member of the body can have).
The law and the prophets wereuntilJohn: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
The law and prophets refers to OT TYPE prophets. They go with the LAW. NT prophets go with the apostles. It is a total different working of God. No one has to run to these prophets to receive anything from God. In fact to do so is denying that we are all ONE and each one must be responsible to God to study the word and feed this body.
The above verse solidly proves that this OT type prophets ended with JOHN THE BAPTIST.
More proof:
Micah 3: 6
Therefore night shall be unto you,
that ye shall not have a vision;
and it shall be dark unto you,
that ye shall not divine;
and the sun shall go down over the prophets,
and the day shall be dark over them.
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Then shall the seers be ashamed,
and the diviners confounded:
yea, they shall all cover their lips;
for there is no answer of God.
Who is the above verse spoken to? THE OT PROPHETS. They have no vision; it is dark to them; they shall not divine or prophesy; the sun went down over the prophets and their day is dark. So how do I know this is speaking to OT prophets? Again, we must search the Scriptures for the answer. Study to show thyself approved to God. Study what? Scripture. So here we go:
Zechariah 13 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
13 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
2 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.
3 And it shall come to pass,that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the Lord: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.
4 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive: 5 but he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.
6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.
7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith theLord of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.
I wrote this entire chapter, for this is very needful to get the truth of it across.
When is this speaking of? The day that a fountain was opened for cleansing from sin. This could only be the day Jesus was crucified.
This agrees with Heb 1, that in these last days, which began with the death of Jesus, God only speaks by his SON.
Look at verse 2..He said I will cause the prophets to pass out of the land.
Verse 3.. when any shall yet prophesy, (meaning after Jesus)… he is speaking LIES in the name of the LORD. His parents should thrust him through when he prophesies. (strong indictment against any further prophets, after the Son was here).
Verse 4 … in the day that Jesus died, the prophets shall be ashamed of his vision when he has prophesied; neither should he try to deceive others into thinking he is a prophet. He is speaking lies.
Verse 5… he shall say, I AM NO PROPHET, but a husbandman. This is NT ministry.
Now to prove that this is speaking of the time when Jesus was crucified: verse 6… speaks of the wounds in his hands. Verse 7 goes on to prove this; awake o sword against my shepherd. Smite the shepherd. This can only be speaking of the time of the death of Jesus. Anyone claiming to be a prophet since then is SPEAKING LIES.
Verse 8 … At this time two parts shall be cut off and die…what is this? It is the LAW AND PROPHETS. Goes back to the law and prophets were UNTIL JOHN. They were THEN cut off.
Verse 9.. I will bring the third part through the fire and refine them as silver and gold. They shall call ON MY NAME and I will hear them. I will say they are my people. This is only to those who stay with and on the only name for salvation = JESUS CHRIST.
So, calling someone a prophet, since Jesus Christ was here, is such a big evil that this entire chapter is concerning this matter. Yet, many so-called prophet’s followers, simply listen to this false prophet and fail to search the Scriptures, so they could not learn this important truth.
So, where does prophets show up again, in Scripture, after Jesus came?
Isa 9: 14
Therefore the Lord will cut off from Israel head and tail,
branch and rush, in one day. (here again we see that God cut off this head and tail; = OT prophets.
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The ancient and honourable, he is the head;
and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.
There you have it .. the prophet that teaches lies is the tail, or ending of the matter. So we proved in Zec 13, that anyone who pretends to be a prophet since Jesus came on earth, is telling LIES. So these so-called prophets in the last days are the tail or telling LIES. All liars shall have their part in the lake of fire. When YOU repeat these same lies, you are just as guilty. When you proclaim the name of these lying prophets, instead of the name of JESUS CHRIST, you are part of this tail.
You who cling to some ‘prophet’ and set this MAN above other members of the body of Christ, are dividers and deceivers. You do deny what Jesus told us…that anyone who BELIEVES, can do the same works he did. Yet you deny this to the members of Christ, due to your accepting this lying prophet and denying the oneness of the body of Christ.
Any member of Christ can heal the sick, and should.
Any member can and should study the Word of God and receive revelation. These same people should then feed their FLESH, or food to the body of Christ.
Jesus died for us, so we all may come boldly to the throne of Grace and into the presence of God and receive from God for our own selves. To deny this to anyone is fighting against Jesus Christ and his kingdom.
If you look to this prophet, even though he is dead or alive, and think you cannot and should not do the same works of Jesus Christ, just because you ‘think’ that ‘prophet’ did it, is denying NT salvation.
Jesus died to give this power to all of us. It is not invested in some one man or prophet. Many of these lying prophets faked miracles and with these false miracles, they have deceived millions.
Why? It is simply because these millions failed to SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES.
Some deceived people have turned aside to an idol named Allah. So where is this told to us in scripture? Some try to follow Jehovah; but they are trying to climb up some other way, than JESUS CHRIST, and they are thieves and robbers. Anyone trying to get to heaven, or be bride of Christ, any other way than the name of JESUS CHRIST is a thief and a robber. All such will have their part in the lake of fire.
So I conclude this first part of the message with this: You are only safe if you stay only with the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. Your ‘prophets’, pastors, church, or others will not give you what you have to have to acquire eternal life.
The meaning of ‘bastardized’: Word Origin and History for bastardize
v.
1610s, “to identify as a bastard,” from bastard (q.v.) + -ize. The figurative sense, “to make degenerate, debase” is earlier (1580s), probably because bastard also was serving as a verb meaning “to declare illegitimate”
bastard in the Bible
In the Old Testament the rendering of the Hebrew word _mamzer’_, which means “polluted.” In Deut. 23:2, it occurs in the ordinary sense of illegitimate offspring. In Zech. 9:6, the word is used in the sense of foreigner. From the history of Jephthah we learn that there were bastard offspring among the Jews (Judg. 11:1-7). In Heb. 12:8, the word (Gr.nothoi) is used in its ordinary sense, and denotes those who do not share the privileges of God’s children.
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Mat. 16: 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Upon a ‘certain’ rock, or foundation, Christ builds his CHURCH, and the GATES of HELL cannot prevail against that Church. The gates of hell are ministers of LIES, which BASTARDIZE the church, and brings it down to below the status of bring SONS OF GOD.
What is that FOUNDATION? Peter’s answer, that God the Father, which is in heaven, gave to Peter >> thou are the Christ, the SON OF THE LIVING GOD.
Any other foundation or teaching, brings about bastards and not sons. A bastard never knows his ‘father’. He cannot inherit the estate of his Father.
He does not go by the father’s name. He cannot know or do what his father stands for.
So, let’s investigate the difference between the True Church which is standing on that true foundation, and the bastardized church. It is important to know for sure which one of these ‘churches’ you are part of. Your eternal destination depends on this.
You must go by the Word of God for the right answer. You cannot depend on any man’s words or thoughts. It must be the pure truth of God. God is not going to judge anyone on the sayings of anyone except his very OWN WORD.
Jesus, the spokesman for God, said, study to show yourselves approved to God, rightly dividing the word of Truth. He said search the SCRIPTURES. So this is the one and ONLY means of determining if you are into the true Church, or the bastardized church. The gates of hell have bastardized every visible church in our world today. Only a small remnant remains of the true church today.
Do you KNOW your spiritual Father? Are you very sure? If HE does not fit what Scripture says about him, he is the false dad, and you are a bastard.
1. Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever. I change not. So is your ‘jesus’ the same today as he was yesterday? If not, you belong to a bastardized church.
a. Jesus healed the sick by pure faith: Does your ‘jesus’ heal the sick today, without the help of man? By pure faith?
(I have actually heard people who ‘claim’ to be ‘christians’ declare that God does NOT heal today. They say you must run to some doctor or a man. These bastards even sneer and mock anyone who still believes that Jesus is the very same healer today, that he was 2,000 years ago.
b. A certain bastardized church puts out their own literature, instead of going by Scripture. In some of their materials, they have published stories and pictures, of a ‘god without hands’. They publicly stated that God has no hands but our, (man’s) hands. They firmly declare that God is helpless today without some man’s hands doing the work for him. They firmly declare that God cannot heal today without some doctor and his medicine. They published a broken statue of their ‘jesus’ without any hands, and their ‘story’ said what a perfect picture this was of showing that their ‘jesus’ is helpless today with OUR HANDS. This is satanic humanism.
Their bastard children rejoice in this false, satanic message, for they do not wish to be associated with anyone who believes in faith healing. I ask, whose hands helped God create the sun, the moon, the stars and the earth? If that God is helpless today, without man’s hands, then whose hands created that sun?
And if God alone created the universe, what rendered him helpless without man’s hands, after God created that man? See, it is a foolish doctrine of DEVILS. Those who believe this satanic message are bastards and their church is a bastardized church.
The bastard members of this bastard church will spend hundreds of dollars, buying the lies which this bastard church or denomination, publishes. Yet these same bastard children will flat refuse to read a free message, which proclaims that Jesus and his Father are still the very same today, as they were in the past or will be in the future.
These bastard children gladly pay hundreds of dollars a month to pay some bastard preacher to tell them their lies, ignoring the fact that the true God said that this is a hireling and cares not for the sheep, but is only after their money. God told us that this thing of buying and selling is the mark of the beast, yet these bastards will fight with all their might to keep this truth hidden from everyone. After all, if the bastard preachers let this truth be known, then he would lose his free-loading money.
Jesus said, FREELY you have received, FREELY give. What did Jesus say to give? Read it. He said, that which you have FREELY received. So the money you labored for is not FREELY RECEIVED. See, these bastard preachers, hirelings, have perverted the Word of God to back up their own evil plans. They have drilled the lie into their bastard members, that it means for the members to give part of their money to the preacher, to pay him to preach. Yet Jesus never taught any such thing. Jesus was telling the MINISTERS to freely GIVE the gifts and messages to others, that God has so freely given to them.
These bastards have totally TURNED this message up-side-down, to make prey off the ones who pay them. The bastard members of this bastardized church will never find truth, for they refuse to even listen to anyone whom God sends to them, bringing truth. They HATE TRUTH. They wish to worship their idols and still be counted as children of God.
They will not read a message such as this one, and therefore they will never hear the truth and come into the light of God. They can read any trashy book, sit for hours watching some trashy movie of playing some silly game, but they cannot take a few minutes to read a message which gives out the truth. Therefore they will be without excuse when they are judged by God and cast into hell fire.
Satan has deceived his bastard church into thinking that as long as they faithfully attend his ‘church-meeting’, and pay his preacher, that they are fine, on their way to heaven, and have need of nothing. They do not obey the true Jesus and study the Word of God, seeking His truth, so they go on believing the lies of this satanic church, for this is what they want. They want their idols and entertainment. They must have the idol holidays, so they refuse a God which DEMANDS them not to do those heathen things to him.
2. Do you know the true Father? Jesus said his Father was in heaven. Jesus said his Father was greater than him. Jesus said, I do always the things which please my Father. Jesus said, touch me not, for I have not yet ascended to my Father and My God. Jesus said, I can of my own self do nothing, but what I see my Father do, I do. Scripture says that Jesus is the son of Joseph, so he had to be speaking of his SPIRITUAL FATHER, which is God.
a. The bastard church claims there are three different people making up one god. They say all three people are equals. Yet Jesus said, My Father is greater than I. Jesus said His God was a SPIRIT. Jesus said, a spirit has not flesh and bone as ye see me have. So Jesus clearly did not claim to be God or the Father.
So now examine which of these things you believe: what Jesus said, or what your bastard church says.
Then there is a bastard church which declares that the one and only person who is God, left heaven and got into Mary and became a helpless human baby. Yet this baby had no spirit or mind of his own, for his God was his own spirit. This then makes Mary to be the mother of a god. Yet they flat deny that Mary is mother of God. so confused! This is a BASTARDIZED CHURCH. They cannot bring their lies into harmony with the Word of God. So they just ignore the Word of God.
The one thing that ties all of these bastard churches together is: the lie of an incarnate god and keeping the heathen HOLIDAYS.
That, egg hunts, tree decorating, gift exchanging, to celebrate their ‘god’s birth and death, and resurrection, is the SURE MARK OF BEING A BASTARD, SATANIC CHURCH.
GOD..HAS…NEVER…BEEN …BORN… OR DIED…OR HAD TO BE…RESURRECTED.
Jesus said: Mark 16: 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Here, Jesus clearly shows that baptism is part of being saved. Yet the bastard churches flat deny this. They do set their bastard preacher’s words above the word of Jesus, whom they claim to know and believe in. Why then do they call him a lie?
Jesus said, certain signs shall follow those who BELIEVE. they shall cast out devils; speak with new tongues; lay hands on the sick and they shall recover..etc. Yet the very people who claim that all they must do to be saved is just say I BELIEVE……and these same people flat DENY all of these signs. So they do call Jesus a LIE. Their bastard preachers tell them, oh that was just for the apostles. Yet Jesus said it was for all who BELIEVE. Either they lie when they say the BELIEVE, or they call Jesus a lie…that these signs do NOT follow believers.
The bastardized church claims that baptism is only to show they believe and to join a church. Yet not one word is ever stated in all of God’s word, to join any church. It is satanic doctrine. Those who believe these lies are bastards and not children of God. The gifts of the spirit are for all of God’s children, yet these bastard churches claim it was only for the early apostolic church. See the baptism of the Holy Ghost and these powerful gifts is the sure mark of being a true church of God, so to be without this, is to be bastardized or to be below the status of a church of God, or to have lost all that power.
3. Jesus said, my sheep KNOW my VOICE and they follow me and a stranger they will not follow, for they know not the voice of strangers. In order to KNOW HIS VOICE, he must SPEAK TO US. Yet these bastard children hate the very thought of a God who SPEAKS to his children. I declare to you, that if your ‘god’ does not speak to you, lead you with his Spirit, then you are a bastard and not a child of the true God.
In their mind, their god is a deaf and dumb idol, for he cannot speak to them. How then can God teach you, if he cannot and will not speak to you? How are you his child, if He never speaks to you? And if He is speaking to you and leading you with his Spirit, how is it that you cannot come into his truth, which fits his written Word, and come out of the lies of the harlot church, which has brought forth BASTARD CHILDREN?
Those who ‘think’ they know god, and yet cannot come into his truth, cannot read his Word and learn his Truth, for they know not the voice of the God whose word it is. They are not his child, so they do not know his LANGUAGE. The words of the book have no meaning to them, for they are of a foreign language to them. God has to teach you his language in order to be able to read his Word, and understand what it is saying. How else could so many millions of folks read the same book and never come out of their darkness and lies? How is it that they go on year after year believing the lies of the bastard church?
4. The true church knows that God declared there would be no more prophets after John the Baptist. They also know that God did away with the OT Law system. Yet these bastard children would not depart with this OT system for anything. They hold that they must still run to some ‘prophet’ to hear from God. They sneer at anyone who declares that God speaks to us personally and we need no prophet to intercede between God and us. We know that we can come boldly to the throne of Grace/God, and He will teach us himself. Woe to anyone who clings to this bastard church and refuse the truth of God.
Go back to the meaning of bastardized. It means to be illegitimate and polluted, a foreigner to God, and living beneath the privileges of a child of God. So all of the churches today fit this description. They live beneath what Jesus said would be signs of being believers. They do not believe in the power of God for us today, so they are bastards.
How are you polluted?
Jesus said be ye holy and clean, abolishing the filth of the flesh and spirit, perfecting Holiness in the fear of God. God said be holy for I am holy. Yet the bastard churches claim that no one can be holy; no one can live without sin and be clean. See, they are polluted. They are unclean, claiming to have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus. Liars, they are.
5. God demanded for his people not to attempt to do anything to him which the heathens do to their gods. Deut 12.
Job 3 declares that God abolished the day of the birth of Jesus. Jer 10, expressly forbids setting up trees and decorating them. He declared that this is the word of the Lord, not his own words. God said this is the way heathens worship their idol gods, do not do this to me.
Jer 20 agrees with Job 3, and said, (being the word of the Lord)… let not the day of my birth be blessed. This is three witnesses of God demanding us not to partake of such ungodly stuff as celebrating the birth of the son of God and especially with gift giving and tree decorating.
Yet the bastard churches WOULD NOT THINK OF GIVING UP THEIR HEATHEN HOLIDAYS. Yes, you are bastards and not sons, no matter how often you run to your little theater church building, and no matter how much you claim to speak in tongues or such, your lives prove you are bastards and not sons. Some of the bastard church leaders even teach their deceived followers to FAKE TONGUES in order to pretend they have the Holy Ghost. And believe it or not, these deceived folks do that thing and teach it to others. They could NOT believe in the truth of this, and fake it. Why fake it, if you believe there is a true gift? I know and have the true gift; never believed in faking it. It can only be ministers of satan who would declare this thing to children seeking the Holy Ghost. I .. HAVE… HEARD… THIS …WITH MY OWN EARS, FROM A MINISTER THAT MANY HOLD UP AS A GREAT MAN OF GOD. SO MUCH DECEPTION.
This bastard church claims to celebrate the resurrection of their ‘god’ by doing another heathen idol holiday = easter. Yes, say they, we must do egg hunts and all such mess, to honor the resurrection of our god. They even set up this heathen mess in their church buildings and expect the true God to accept them and their idol worship. Deceived and being deceived. The GATES OF HELL HAVE PREVAILED AGAINST THIS BASTARDIZED CHURCH.
You, bastard church, claim to be rich and in need of nothing; yet you are naked, poor, miserable, blind and do not even know it. Which church? Any you deny that Jesus is still the same today, that we need a prophet today, that you can still sin and be right with God, that Jesus does not heal today, that you can do your HEATHEN HOLIDAYS and God will accept you in this sin. You are deceived and a bastard. If you were a true child of God, you would seek for his truth, open up your heart to receive his truth and turn from your lies and sins. If you partake of these bastard church, you are part of it and will receive of her plagues.
By: Jo Smith…. August 7, 2015
~~ A BASTARDIZED CHURCH ~~
The meaning of ‘bastardized’: Word Origin and History for bastardize
v.
1610s, “to identify as a bastard,” from bastard (q.v.) + -ize. The figurative sense, “to make degenerate, debase” is earlier (1580s), probably because bastard also was serving as a verb meaning “to declare illegitimate”
bastard in the Bible
In the Old Testament the rendering of the Hebrew word _mamzer’_, which means “polluted.” In Deut. 23:2, it occurs in the ordinary sense of illegitimate offspring. In Zech. 9:6, the word is used in the sense of foreigner. From the history of Jephthah we learn that there were bastard offspring among the Jews (Judg. 11:1-7). In Heb. 12:8, the word (Gr.nothoi) is used in its ordinary sense, and denotes those who do not share the privileges of God’s children.
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Mat. 16: 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Upon a ‘certain’ rock, or foundation, Christ builds his CHURCH, and the GATES of HELL cannot prevail against that Church. The gates of hell are ministers of LIES, which BASTARDIZE the church, and brings it down to below the status of bring SONS OF GOD.
What is that FOUNDATION? Peter’s answer, that God the Father, which is in heaven, gave to Peter >> thou are the Christ, the SON OF THE LIVING GOD.
Any other foundation or teaching, brings about bastards and not sons. A bastard never knows his ‘father’. He cannot inherit the estate of his Father.
He does not go by the father’s name. He cannot know or do what his father stands for.
So, let’s investigate the difference between the True Church which is standing on that true foundation, and the bastardized church. It is important to know for sure which one of these ‘churches’ you are part of. Your eternal destination depends on this.
You must go by the Word of God for the right answer. You cannot depend on any man’s words or thoughts. It must be the pure truth of God. God is not going to judge anyone on the sayings of anyone except his very OWN WORD.
Jesus, the spokesman for God, said, study to show yourselves approved to God, rightly dividing the word of Truth. He said search the SCRIPTURES. So this is the one and ONLY means of determining if you are into the true Church, or the bastardized church. The gates of hell have bastardized every visible church in our world today. Only a small remnant remains of the true church today.
Do you KNOW your spiritual Father? Are you very sure? If HE does not fit what Scripture says about him, he is the false dad, and you are a bastard.
1. Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever. I change not. So is your ‘jesus’ the same today as he was yesterday? If not, you belong to a bastardized church.
a. Jesus healed the sick by pure faith: Does your ‘jesus’ heal the sick today, without the help of man? By pure faith?
(I have actually heard people who ‘claim’ to be ‘christians’ declare that God does NOT heal today. They say you must run to some doctor or a man. These bastards even sneer and mock anyone who still believes that Jesus is the very same healer today, that he was 2,000 years ago.
b. A certain bastardized church puts out their own literature, instead of going by Scripture. In some of their materials, they have published stories and pictures, of a ‘god without hands’. They publicly stated that God has no hands but our, (man’s) hands. They firmly declare that God is helpless today without some man’s hands doing the work for him. They firmly declare that God cannot heal today without some doctor and his medicine. They published a broken statue of their ‘jesus’ without any hands, and their ‘story’ said what a perfect picture this was of showing that their ‘jesus’ is helpless today with OUR HANDS. This is satanic humanism.
Their bastard children rejoice in this false, satanic message, for they do not wish to be associated with anyone who believes in faith healing. I ask, whose hands helped God create the sun, the moon, the stars and the earth? If that God is helpless today, without man’s hands, then whose hands created that sun?
And if God alone created the universe, what rendered him helpless without man’s hands, after God created that man? See, it is a foolish doctrine of DEVILS. Those who believe this satanic message are bastards and their church is a bastardized church.
The bastard members of this bastard church will spend hundreds of dollars, buying the lies which this bastard church or denomination, publishes. Yet these same bastard children will flat refuse to read a free message, which proclaims that Jesus and his Father are still the very same today, as they were in the past or will be in the future.
These bastard children gladly pay hundreds of dollars a month to pay some bastard preacher to tell them their lies, ignoring the fact that the true God said that this is a hireling and cares not for the sheep, but is only after their money. God told us that this thing of buying and selling is the mark of the beast, yet these bastards will fight with all their might to keep this truth hidden from everyone. After all, if the bastard preachers let this truth be known, then he would lose his free-loading money.
Jesus said, FREELY you have received, FREELY give. What did Jesus say to give? Read it. He said, that which you have FREELY received. So the money you labored for is not FREELY RECEIVED. See, these bastard preachers, hirelings, have perverted the Word of God to back up their own evil plans. They have drilled the lie into their bastard members, that it means for the members to give part of their money to the preacher, to pay him to preach. Yet Jesus never taught any such thing. Jesus was telling the MINISTERS to freely GIVE the gifts and messages to others, that God has so freely given to them.
These bastards have totally TURNED this message up-side-down, to make prey off the ones who pay them. The bastard members of this bastardized church will never find truth, for they refuse to even listen to anyone whom God sends to them, bringing truth. They HATE TRUTH. They wish to worship their idols and still be counted as children of God.
They will not read a message such as this one, and therefore they will never hear the truth and come into the light of God. They can read any trashy book, sit for hours watching some trashy movie of playing some silly game, but they cannot take a few minutes to read a message which gives out the truth. Therefore they will be without excuse when they are judged by God and cast into hell fire.
Satan has deceived his bastard church into thinking that as long as they faithfully attend his ‘church-meeting’, and pay his preacher, that they are fine, on their way to heaven, and have need of nothing. They do not obey the true Jesus and study the Word of God, seeking His truth, so they go on believing the lies of this satanic church, for this is what they want. They want their idols and entertainment. They must have the idol holidays, so they refuse a God which DEMANDS them not to do those heathen things to him.
2. Do you know the true Father? Jesus said his Father was in heaven. Jesus said his Father was greater than him. Jesus said, I do always the things which please my Father. Jesus said, touch me not, for I have not yet ascended to my Father and My God. Jesus said, I can of my own self do nothing, but what I see my Father do, I do. Scripture says that Jesus is the son of Joseph, so he had to be speaking of his SPIRITUAL FATHER, which is God.
a. The bastard church claims there are three different people making up one god. They say all three people are equals. Yet Jesus said, My Father is greater than I. Jesus said His God was a SPIRIT. Jesus said, a spirit has not flesh and bone as ye see me have. So Jesus clearly did not claim to be God or the Father.
So now examine which of these things you believe: what Jesus said, or what your bastard church says.
Then there is a bastard church which declares that the one and only person who is God, left heaven and got into Mary and became a helpless human baby. Yet this baby had no spirit or mind of his own, for his God was his own spirit. This then makes Mary to be the mother of a god. Yet they flat deny that Mary is mother of God. so confused! This is a BASTARDIZED CHURCH. They cannot bring their lies into harmony with the Word of God. So they just ignore the Word of God.
The one thing that ties all of these bastard churches together is: the lie of an incarnate god and keeping the heathen HOLIDAYS.
That, egg hunts, tree decorating, gift exchanging, to celebrate their ‘god’s birth and death, and resurrection, is the SURE MARK OF BEING A BASTARD, SATANIC CHURCH.
GOD..HAS…NEVER…BEEN …BORN… OR DIED…OR HAD TO BE…RESURRECTED.
Jesus said: Mark 16: 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
Here, Jesus clearly shows that baptism is part of being saved. Yet the bastard churches flat deny this. They do set their bastard preacher’s words above the word of Jesus, whom they claim to know and believe in. Why then do they call him a lie?
Jesus said, certain signs shall follow those who BELIEVE. they shall cast out devils; speak with new tongues; lay hands on the sick and they shall recover..etc. Yet the very people who claim that all they must do to be saved is just say I BELIEVE……and these same people flat DENY all of these signs. So they do call Jesus a LIE. Their bastard preachers tell them, oh that was just for the apostles. Yet Jesus said it was for all who BELIEVE. Either they lie when they say the BELIEVE, or they call Jesus a lie…that these signs do NOT follow believers.
The bastardized church claims that baptism is only to show they believe and to join a church. Yet not one word is ever stated in all of God’s word, to join any church. It is satanic doctrine. Those who believe these lies are bastards and not children of God. The gifts of the spirit are for all of God’s children, yet these bastard churches claim it was only for the early apostolic church. See the baptism of the Holy Ghost and these powerful gifts is the sure mark of being a true church of God, so to be without this, is to be bastardized or to be below the status of a church of God, or to have lost all that power.
3. Jesus said, my sheep KNOW my VOICE and they follow me and a stranger they will not follow, for they know not the voice of strangers. In order to KNOW HIS VOICE, he must SPEAK TO US. Yet these bastard children hate the very thought of a God who SPEAKS to his children. I declare to you, that if your ‘god’ does not speak to you, lead you with his Spirit, then you are a bastard and not a child of the true God.
In their mind, their god is a deaf and dumb idol, for he cannot speak to them. How then can God teach you, if he cannot and will not speak to you? How are you his child, if He never speaks to you? And if He is speaking to you and leading you with his Spirit, how is it that you cannot come into his truth, which fits his written Word, and come out of the lies of the harlot church, which has brought forth BASTARD CHILDREN?
Those who ‘think’ they know god, and yet cannot come into his truth, cannot read his Word and learn his Truth, for they know not the voice of the God whose word it is. They are not his child, so they do not know his LANGUAGE. The words of the book have no meaning to them, for they are of a foreign language to them. God has to teach you his language in order to be able to read his Word, and understand what it is saying. How else could so many millions of folks read the same book and never come out of their darkness and lies? How is it that they go on year after year believing the lies of the bastard church?
4. The true church knows that God declared there would be no more prophets after John the Baptist. They also know that God did away with the OT Law system. Yet these bastard children would not depart with this OT system for anything. They hold that they must still run to some ‘prophet’ to hear from God. They sneer at anyone who declares that God speaks to us personally and we need no prophet to intercede between God and us. We know that we can come boldly to the throne of Grace/God, and He will teach us himself. Woe to anyone who clings to this bastard church and refuse the truth of God.
Go back to the meaning of bastardized. It means to be illegitimate and polluted, a foreigner to God, and living beneath the privileges of a child of God. So all of the churches today fit this description. They live beneath what Jesus said would be signs of being believers. They do not believe in the power of God for us today, so they are bastards.
How are you polluted?
Jesus said be ye holy and clean, abolishing the filth of the flesh and spirit, perfecting Holiness in the fear of God. God said be holy for I am holy. Yet the bastard churches claim that no one can be holy; no one can live without sin and be clean. See, they are polluted. They are unclean, claiming to have been cleansed by the blood of Jesus. Liars, they are.
5. God demanded for his people not to attempt to do anything to him which the heathens do to their gods. Deut 12.
Job 3 declares that God abolished the day of the birth of Jesus. Jer 10, expressly forbids setting up trees and decorating them. He declared that this is the word of the Lord, not his own words. God said this is the way heathens worship their idol gods, do not do this to me.
Jer 20 agrees with Job 3, and said, (being the word of the Lord)… let not the day of my birth be blessed. This is three witnesses of God demanding us not to partake of such ungodly stuff as celebrating the birth of the son of God and especially with gift giving and tree decorating.
Yet the bastard churches WOULD NOT THINK OF GIVING UP THEIR HEATHEN HOLIDAYS. Yes, you are bastards and not sons, no matter how often you run to your little theater church building, and no matter how much you claim to speak in tongues or such, your lives prove you are bastards and not sons. Some of the bastard church leaders even teach their deceived followers to FAKE TONGUES in order to pretend they have the Holy Ghost. And believe it or not, these deceived folks do that thing and teach it to others. They could NOT believe in the truth of this, and fake it. Why fake it, if you believe there is a true gift? I know and have the true gift; never believed in faking it. It can only be ministers of satan who would declare this thing to children seeking the Holy Ghost. I .. HAVE… HEARD… THIS …WITH MY OWN EARS, FROM A MINISTER THAT MANY HOLD UP AS A GREAT MAN OF GOD. SO MUCH DECEPTION.
This bastard church claims to celebrate the resurrection of their ‘god’ by doing another heathen idol holiday = easter. Yes, say they, we must do egg hunts and all such mess, to honor the resurrection of our god. They even set up this heathen mess in their church buildings and expect the true God to accept them and their idol worship. Deceived and being deceived. The GATES OF HELL HAVE PREVAILED AGAINST THIS BASTARDIZED CHURCH.
You, bastard church, claim to be rich and in need of nothing; yet you are naked, poor, miserable, blind and do not even know it. Which church? Any you deny that Jesus is still the same today, that we need a prophet today, that you can still sin and be right with God, that Jesus does not heal today, that you can do your HEATHEN HOLIDAYS and God will accept you in this sin. You are deceived and a bastard. If you were a true child of God, you would seek for his truth, open up your heart to receive his truth and turn from your lies and sins. If you partake of these bastard church, you are part of it and will receive of her plagues.
but have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God.
handling the word of God deceitfully
James 1: 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
This word, VISIT, here, does not mean to go see them. It means to supply their needs. So, unless you and your church obey this, you are into false religion.
as it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.
(Where is one verse saying that if you give to a preacher your righteousness remains? It is not in the Word of God, so it must be the word of Satan. Whose word are you paying to sit and listen to?)
HE HAS GIVEN TO THE POOR. MIGHTY MESSAGE. NOT PREACHED IN YOUR ‘CHURCH’.
Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth. (give to those who need; not to preachers)
But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
2 Corinthians 8:3-5Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
3 For to their power, I bear record, yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves; 4 praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering TO the saints.
(Notice, this said, MINISTERING….TO… THE SAINTS; NOT TO SOME PREACHER).
10 And herein I give my advice: for this is expedient for you, who have begun before, not only to do, but also to be forward a year ago. 11 Now therefore perform the doing of it; that as there was a readiness to will, so there may be a performance also out of that which ye have. 12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not. 13 For I mean not that other men be eased, and ye burdened: 14 but by an equality, that now at this time your abundance may be a supply for their want, that their abundance also may be a supply for your want: that there may be equality: 15 as it is written, He that had gathered much had nothing over; and he that had gathered little had no lack.
Here is a church which made up a gift, to be sent by some of the ministers, to some poor saints. Paul sent several ministers to deliver this gift to those in need. It was NEVER meant to be given to any preacher, but to saints in need. So when one group was prospering, they helped those in need. Then when those began to prosper they would in turn help others in need. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY GOD said for us to GIVE. This is showing that in true Christianity, equality is the only way. So setting up one man, to rule over the church, and paying him a big salary, so that he is above the others, is not of God, but of satan.
I beseech you, brethren, (ye know the house of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have addicted themselves to the ministry of the saints,)
Addicted themselves TO the ministry of the saints.
All of these verses teach that we are to give to the necessity of saints. I cannot find one single verse telling us to pay a preacher. Where did that ‘doctrine’ come from? Why is the entire church world operating under this FALSE DOCTRINE?
I say it is a strong conspiracy of lust-filled men, who pretend to be ministers of God. Yet they are in reality ministers of satan. They think the gift of God can be purchased with money. So they drill this false teaching into the unlearned ‘sheep’ that they have control over, that they must pay a preacher, in order to please God and to have salvation.
It is a doctrine of devils, for no scripture bears this out. Let them bring forth their scripture which tells the saints to give to the preacher.
The have twisted a few verses, as they do for all their false doctrines, to try and make the Word of God say what they want it to say. For this, they will receive a bad place in hell.
1 Corinthians 16Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
16 Now concerning the collection FOR the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. 2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come. 3 And when I come, whomsoever ye shall approve by your letters, them will I send to bring your liberality unto Jerusalem. 4 And if it be meet that I go also, they shall go with me.
Preachers totally slaughter the above verses, in order to deceive unsuspecting souls into giving their money to them. Woe to them. They are GUILTY of HANDLING THE WORD OF GOD DECEITFULLY.
And I mean it is a world-wide deception and conspiracy. Read verse one carefully: “collection…FOR…the saints”. Not FROM the saints. Big difference. FOR THE SAINTS. It was not for Paul and Paul did not take nor teach them that they needed to give anything to him.
Notice that Paul said he would send the ones chosen by that church to take their gifts to those poor saints in Jerusalem. Paul was NOT taking this gift for himself. Nor was he going to take it alone. These were honest, God-fearing ministers of God. They were not ministers of satan, coveting other men’s money.
The main purpose of this message is to show you how these covetous preachers have robbed the poor, by leading the people to believe that they must give their money to them; pay them to preach. Pay them to pastor your church. Pay them to visit the sick, etc. It is satanic.
But what is the worst result of this evil doctrine? It actually robs those in need of receiving the help that true Christians would have given to them, IF THEY had known that this is actually what God requires. Instead of helping those in need, you are padding the pockets of men who are too lazy to work, and/or just want more.
These wolves in sheep clothing have joined the ranks of ‘preachers’ for the very purpose of having an easy living and preying off the ignorant who think they are serving God.
These false ministers run back into the OT and pick up on tithing, which was to feed the hungry and take care of the priests, who had no inheritance among Israel, and they try to bring this into the NT church. But that is full error, and has the hurtful result of putting themselves and you back under the law, by which is no salvation. So, instead of helping you have salvation, it keeps you from it. Serious business, right? Sure.
Many hurting people could have and would have been helped IF the ignorant church members had gotten into the word of God, and not allowed these hirelings to deceive them into PAYING A PREACHER instead of helping the sick and needy, as God commands us to do. This is nothing short of ROBBING THE POOR.
They are handling the word of God deceitfully. God will bring them into judgement for this evil. God will bring you into judgment for allowing this evil to prosper and did not study his Word and obey it.
When the DAY is over, and judgment strikes, you will all see that your church was actually a seat of Satan, and had not one thing to do with the pure religion of God. You have not obeyed the Word of God at any point. You and your preacher/church are guilty of ROBBING THE POOR.
You are all going to be shocked when you are told by God that your ‘church’ had not one thing to do with Him, but was the seat of satan.
Rev 2: (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan
12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; 13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is.
So there you have it, church is the seat of satan, synagogue of satan.
Beware lest you lose your soul, paying that preacher and not obeying the word of God.
Is it fine with the true God, if we allow other religions and their false gods into our country? Let the Word of God be our answer. Here is a message God gave me a little bit ago as I was eating and reading the Word of God.
God told us have no other Gods before me. Worship Him and him only. God is a jealous God and will not put up with our honoring other gods and other religions.
1 Kings 11King James Version (KJV)
11 But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites:
2 Of the nations concerning which the Lord said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love.
4 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God, as was the heart of David his father.
5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites.
6 And Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, and went not fully after the Lord, as did David his father.
7 Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon.
8 And likewise did he for all his strange wives, which burnt incense and sacrificed unto their gods.
9 And the Lord was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the Lord God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice,
10 And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which the Lord commanded.
11 Wherefore the Lord said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant.
12 Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father’s sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son.
13 Howbeit I will not rend away all the kingdom; but will give one tribe to thy son for David my servant’s sake, and for Jerusalem’s sake which I have chosen.
14 And the Lord stirred up an adversary unto Solomon, Hadad the Edomite: he was of the king’s seed in Edom.
God rent the kingdom away from Solomon because he had allowed other religions with their idol gods, into his life, kingdom and home. He had built temples for these idols gods and bowed to them.
Because of this sin, God gave ten tribes to Jeroboam. Jeroboam then made idols for the ten tribe nation to worship. So God brought him down also and rent the kingdom from his family. God is not going to bless anyone or any nation that allows false religions and idol gods into their life.
America has been deceived into thinking we must just allow any religion and their gods into our land and allow them to build idol temples for their idol gods. God is no different today than He was with Solomon. God is still demanding that we worship HIM AND HIM ONLY. You can go against this if you please, but it will cost you eternal life and much trouble in this life.
We have allowed islam and its idol allah, into our nation and let them build temples to this wicked religion and fake god. But you see, it is beginning to fall.
God also said that when his people do wicked, he will lot those who hate us rule over us. We just came out from under that. Aboma and his ‘wife’ declared their hatred for our nation and they ruled over us and about destroyed us with their wickedness and bringing in false gods into our nation.
After Solomon died and his son, Rehoboam came to the kingdom, the Israelites asked him to lighten the load Solomon had put on them. He asked the old men for counsel. They told him to lighten the load. He rejected this advise and asked the young men, his age, for counsel. They told him to make the load much harder. He listened to these young ‘bullies’ and in doing so, the ten tribes left him and set up the ten tribe nation.
Our nation is following this same route: listening to young bullies and going away from what our founding fathers set up for us. Now gays and murdering babies is accepted. Islam is accepted and they can build idol temples here and now they are taking over our lives, our schools and our government. Only a true turning back to the True God can save us. We cannot and must not allow these idols to continue in our nation.
cp 12: 33 So he offered upon the altar which he had made in Bethel the fifteenth day of the eighth month, even in the month which he had devised of his own heart; and ordained a feast unto the children of Israel: and he offered upon the altar, and burnt incense.
Notice, Rehoboam was afraid the Israelites would return to Judah if they went back there to worship, so he set up two idol calves for them to worship. He also set up a feast month or date, out of his own heart, or just was he decided, to worship God in. He also set up the basest of folks, who were not Levites, to be priests.
Now this is the same thing as the churches today thinking they can just decide on a date to ‘celebrate’ Jesus, his ‘birthday’ and resurrection and other such stuff. They say, ‘we do not know the day, so we chose this one’. The church sets up pastors after their own hearts, just because he can make music or is pretty, or any such. They do not seek God’s will and just let anyone in. It is totally away from God now and in the decay mode and about to crumble with a loud crash.
Will God accept such mess? He never has so why would he do it now? It will not ever work. We must ALWAYS do to God ONLY what HE commanded us to do. We are not God and cannot set these things up. It is blasphemy to think you can just to do God as you please. You must never read the Word of God, to think He will accept your made up junk.
A man of God came down from Judah and prophesied against the altar at Bethel, where Jeroboam sacrificed to his idol god. God had told this man not to eat or drink in this place and not to return the same way he came. An older prophet came to the man of God and told him that an angel had told him to get this man of God to come home with him and eat and drink. The young prophet fell for this and went with him.
As a result a lion came on him and killed him. Even if an angel tells you things against what God has said, you must not listen or obey him. You must always obey what God has said.
God has told us……..DO NOT LET FALSE GODS OR RELIGIONS INTO YOUR HOUSE. America, you must purge these false religions and idol gods out of this nation. You churches think you can just set up days and times that you chose. You set us idols, santa, easter eggs and bunnies….and all such mess.
God will send the destroying lions on you if you continue this idols worship. You who uphold isalm and their idol, allah and mohammed are going to be destroyed.
Most everyone thinks that 1 Samuel 17 is just a story about David and Goliath. No, it is not just a story about David and Goliath. If you have no spiritual understanding, yes it is just a story. But the ones with the spiritual understanding know that 1 Samuel 17 is a war going on in the spiritual. David is showing Jesus or flesh or Jesus the Christ which is spiritual. I hope you can see that there is a fleshly side of Jesus and a spiritual side which is Jesus Christ. Goliath( Adam) is showing satan or Lucifer. The reason I said Lucifer is because he and Goliath and Adam all fell. All 3 fell. But the church organization revied Lucifer, Goliath, and satan. They even have a seat for the 3 which is one. Satan’s kingdom is just like the kingdom of God. His body is one as Jesus Christ body is one. One body and many members. That is the reason we must make Goliath and his kingdom fall. Just as Jesus the Christ made Goliath, Adam, Lucifer fall. We need to do the same. These Goliaths ( churches. pastors etc. must fall. These Goliaths have the authority that their daddy (Adam) has. Goliath is in charge of or controlling other people.Is this not what these pastors, preachers etc. do? Sure it is.To prove that the seat of satan is in these church organizations. Revelation 2:13 (KJV) 13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan’s seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. ( yes, he sits in his throne seat in the churches. He sits up there lifting himself up as God. He is the high priest. I suppose you know who he is. He is the church pastor or elder bishop of whatever they call themselves. He is the one you look to and he tells you it is alright to worship your idols. idols worship is not of God. It is of Adam (satan) and under his control. The word says Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; ( Satan) sits up there as most High and as if he is on the throne of God the Most High. These temples ( churches) made with hands are not of God. God is not in these temples ( churches).God dwells in his people and shall be in you. His Spirit that dwelleth in you. 1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?As said earlier this about David and Goliath is spiritual warfare and we must defeat Goliath. All of this began in the book of Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.There was a fleshly side and a spiritual side in Eve. Cain was the fleshly side, the seed of Adam( satan) an Able was the spiritual seed which was of Eve. The strong’s meaning of Cain is possession and I looked up what possession meant; a. The state of being dominated or controlled. This is what is happening in these church organizations. These so-called men of God are as Goliath who has the desire to own or dominate the people. I know most of you will say my pastor does not. But you are so wrong. You will not hear from the true ministers of God but you are hearing only what they tell you and you like it. Yes, you like your evil idol holidays and every other thing concerned with it. The people perish from a lack of knowledge There were 2 nations in Eve….. Genesis 25:23 And the Lord said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger. (My sister in Christ ( Jo Smith) wrote a message on two nations in one a few years back and it is a great message. I found the link to it, here. If you would like to read and I doubt if anyone reads it.http://forum3.aimoo.com/Buildonthetruefoundation/Church-Israel/Two-Nations-in-One-1-707752.html1 Samuel 17:1 Now the Philistines gathered together their armies to battle, and were gathered together at Shochoh, which belongeth to Judah, and pitched between Shochoh and Azekah, in Ephesdammim.. 2 And Saul and the men of Israel were gathered together, and pitched by the valley of Elah, and set the battle in array against the Philistines. . 3 The Philistines occupied one hill and the Israelites another, with the valley between them. ( what is a valley? A low area of land between hills or mountain often having a river running along the bottom. What does this show us? It is a shadow or type of the Holy Ghost. John 7:38King James Version (KJV) He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. Psalm 1:1… Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. Revelation 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. (This water of life comes from the throne of the living God. Not some man-made throne that lifts himself up above the people sitting in the seat of satan as a god. Ezekiel 28King James Version (KJV) 28: The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: ( what does this sea represent? it is water and the water in scripture represents; Revelation 17:15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. (So from this is there are many people sitting under the leadership of satan and the church is the whore. But there are also people sitting under the leadership of Jesus and the apostles which is from the true throne of God and drinking from the pure river of water of life, clear as crystal. This water is from God and the Lamb. Interesting that he should mention God and Lamb. Showing two different ones. 2 And Saul and the men of Israel were gathered together, and pitched by the valley of Elah, and set the battle in array against the Philistines. ( what is the meaning of array. From the Webster dictionary….. to dress or decorate especially in splendid or impressive attire : adorn. These Israelite were dressed the same as the Philistine Goliath was arrayed in.Your Goliath ( pastors, preachers etc.) and church are dressed the same as Goliath. More on this below.Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. ( splendor, brightness, shining meaning the same thing.) 7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. I am going to have to leave off a few vs. because this is longer than I thought it would be. But no one will even get this far in the message. Only a few. But I am seeing some new things myself. 1 Sam 17:8 And he stood and cried unto the armies of Israel, and said unto them, Why are ye come out to set your battle in array? am not I a Philistine, and ye servants to Saul? choose you a man for you, and let him come down to me. ( the Philistine was calling for a man and there was not a man willing to go to battle this great giant. Ezekiel 22:30 And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none. ( there was none among Israel that would fight this great giant. he even called again for the Israelites to send out a man: 10 And the Philistine said, I defy the armies of Israel this day; give me a man, that we may fight together. 11 When Saul and all Israel heard those words of the Philistine, they were dismayed, and greatly afraid. ( they were afraid and dismayed because they did not have a man that would fight him.20 And David rose up early in the morning, and left the sheep with a keeper, and took, and went, as Jesse had commanded him; and he came to the trench, as the host was going forth to the fight, and shouted for the battle.21 For Israel and the Philistines had put the battle in array, army against army.22 And David left his carriage in the hand of the keeper of the carriage, and ran into the army, and came and saluted his brethren.23 And as he talked with them, behold, there came up the champion, the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name, out of the armies of the Philistines, and spake according to the same words: and David heard them. ( he spake the same thing as before. Is there not a man? )25 And the men of Israel said, Have ye seen this man that is come up? surely to defy Israel is he come up: and it shall be, that the man who killeth him, the king will enrich him with great riches, and will give him his daughter, and make his father’s house free in Israel.26 And David spake to the men that stood by him, saying, What shall be done to the man that killeth this Philistine, and taketh away the reproach from Israel? for who is this uncircumcised Philistine, that he should defy the armies of the living God?27 And the people answered him after this manner, saying, So shall it be done to the man that killeth him.31 And when the words were heard which David spake, they rehearsed them before Saul: and he sent for him.32 And David said to Saul, Let no man’s heart fail because of him; thy servant will go and fight with this Philistine. ( praise God there was a man found that would fight this giant. there is still a few men and women that can still be found fighting this Goliath. These giants of these churches must fall. David is Jesus. Yes, he is symbolic of Jesus the Christ. Yes, David (Jesus) fought the Giant Goliath at Calvary and he won. The same as the true ministers of God are going to win. Rev 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.Ephesians 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; ( law of commandments contained in ordinances was the Goliath that Jesus killed at Calvary. But as usual the church revied this Goliath and we are still fighting against a giant.38 And Saul armed David with his armour, and he put an helmet of brass upon his head; also he armed him with a coat of mail.39 And David girded his sword upon his armour, and he assayed to go; for he had not proved it. And David said unto Saul, I cannot go with these; for I have not proved them. And David put them off him. ( as I said earlier These Israelite were dressed the same as the Philistine Goliath was arrayed in. This was not the armor for David and he took off this armor. David or Jesus knew what the armor they needed; Ephesians 6:10-18Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. … ( they knew this was spiritual warfare and it was not only flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. David knew this but the other Israelites did not see it. They had no spiritual eyesight as most of you cannot see spiritual things.40 And he took his staff in his hand, and chose him five smooth stones out of the brook, and put them in a shepherd’s bag which he had, even in a scrip; and his sling was in his hand: and he drew near to the Philistine. ( what does stone mean in scripture? lets see. 1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. ( scripture says the people are stones that are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.But what is David ( Jesus) showing? Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;( now that we see Jesus Christ ( David) was the chief cornerstone, what are the five stones showing? Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; ( there are your 5 stones. The true ministry of God in the brook. These are New Testament ministers.41 And the Philistine came on and drew near unto David; and the man that bare the shield went before him.42 And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.43 And the Philistine said unto David, Am I a dog, that thou comest to me with staves? And the Philistine cursed David by his gods.44 And the Philistine said to David, Come to me, and I will give thy flesh unto the fowls of the air, and to the beasts of the field.45 Then said David to the Philistine, Thou comest to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a shield: but I come to thee in the name of the Lord of hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom thou hast defied.46 This day will the Lord deliver thee into mine hand; and I will smite thee, and take thine head from thee; and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air, and to the wild beasts of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel.47 And all this assembly shall know that the Lord saveth not with sword and spear: for the battle is the Lord’s, and he will give you into our hands.(David, Just like the lion and the bear he slew, Goliath shall come down too.For the battles, are not our’s but the Lord’s.)48 And it came to pass, when the Philistine arose, and came, and drew nigh to meet David, that David hastened, and ran toward the army to meet the Philistine.49 And David put his hand in his bag, and took thence a stone, and slang it, and smote the Philistine in his forehead, that the stone sunk into his forehead; and he fell upon his face to the earth.50 So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David.51 Therefore David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith. And when the Philistines saw their champion was dead, they fled.52 And the men of Israel and of Judah arose, and shouted, and pursued the Philistines, until thou come to the valley, and to the gates of Ekron. And the wounded of the Philistines fell down by the way to Shaaraim, even unto Gath, and unto Ekron.53 And the children of Israel returned from chasing after the Philistines, and they spoiled their tents.I will close for now. I would loved to have commented on the list of the last scriptures. I also needed to say more about Lucifer. But if the Lord sees fit maybe I will.We must put on the whole armour of God and defeat this Goliath. As I said earlier this Goliath must fall and never let these church organizations revive him. People, we can no longer be as sheep led to the slaughter. We must arm ourselves. We cannot defeat Goliath with his own array. We must do as David ( Jesus Christ ) and take off the armor of Goliath. We are more than conquerors, we are warriors fit for the battle. We were trained for this battle. As same as David was trained. He was a shepherd and he took care of his sheep. We must be prepared to kill Goliath. We will take care of our sheep. We know that this is a spiritual battle. We have put on the whole armor of God. As is the title of this message, Goliath you Are Going To Fall. Job 40:10King James Version (KJV)10 Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beautyLarry Bray11/25/201711/26/2017
wow, great revelation God just gave me….I was sitting thinking on Gog and the mysteries there. God just showed me from this ‘carnal’ way of trying to interpret Scripture, where and how animal sacrifices came into being.
Adam/satan/serpent, took everything in Scripture to a natural, carnal interpretation; taking the words to their human, natural meanings….. as in SHEEP….or GOAT…or WHEAT, or stubble…surely any beginner realizers that the SHEEP of God are NOT FOUR LEGGED ANIMALS….right?
or that CLOUDS does not mean the ‘water vapor’ up in the air? how many of you realize that the word CLOUD means a great crowd of people? do you ever study? or look up words..
Now, Adam heard God say, my sheep…hear my voice….he heard, Lamb of God….so he caused everyone to begin seeing the Word of God as NATURAL OR CARNAL.. the carnal or natural mind is not subject to the things of God…cannot be….so no one could ever get the truth….for Adam said, I am the son of God, so what I say is always right….. and Eve believed him. most folks ever since then has believed his lying mouth… he said, kill those animals and offer their blood to God to get rid of your sins……but….
God said, I hate this….who required this of you? certainly I did not.
Adam said, women, keep quiet; be silent and obey men..meaning female humans and male humans…..
BUT…
God was never speaking of humans that way…..he said in Christ there is neither…..male nor female…ye are all ONE.
now folks took that word ..ONE…and twisted the entire word of God…into lies and more lies and more lies.
all because they still listen to ADAM/SERPENT.
He said, serpent said….kill literal sheep..that is what God meant…..not for one minute.
Jo Smith …feb 12, 2018wow, great revelation God just gave me….I was sitting thinking on Gog and the mysteries there.
God just showed me from this ‘carnal’ way of trying to interpret Scripture, where and how animal sacrifices came into being.
Adam/satan/serpent, took everything in Scripture to a natural, carnal interpretation; taking the words to their human, natural meanings….. as in SHEEP….or GOAT…or WHEAT, or stubble…surely any beginner realizers that the SHEEP of God are NOT FOUR LEGGED ANIMALS….right?
or that CLOUDS does not mean the ‘water vapor’ up in the air? how many of you realize that the word CLOUD means a great crowd of people? do you ever study? or look up words..
Now, Adam heard God say, my sheep…hear my voice….he heard, Lamb of God….so he caused everyone to begin seeing the Word of God as NATURAL OR CARNAL.. the carnal or natural mind is not subject to the things of God…cannot be….so no one could ever get the truth….for Adam said, I am the son of God, so what I say is always right….. and Eve believed him. most folks ever since then has believed his lying mouth… he said, kill those animals and offer their blood to God to get rid of your sins……but….
God said, I hate this….who required this of you? certainly I did not.
Adam said, women, keep quiet; be silent and obey men..meaning female humans and male humans…..
BUT…
God was never speaking of humans that way…..he said in Christ there is neither…..male nor female…ye are all ONE.
now folks took that word ..ONE…and twisted the entire word of God…into lies and more lies and more lies.
all because they still listen to ADAM/SERPENT.
He said, serpent said….kill literal sheep..that is what God meant…..not for one minute.
The first place bondage is mentioned is in… Exodus 1:14 And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service in the field: all their service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour. But let’s start this with Exodus ….1:8 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. vs 9 And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we: 10 Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land. 11 Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses. 12 But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel. 13 And the Egyptians made the children of Israel to serve with rigour: 14 And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service in the field: all their service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour.
In the above vs’s is referring to the children of Israel, which came into Egypt where Joseph was already. And Joseph died, ( showing the death of Jesus ) and all his brethren, and all that generation.hen there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph. Under the leadership of Joseph ( Jesus) the children of Israel had grown to be a mighty and strong and a powerful nation. Joel 1:6 King James Version (KJV) 6 For a nation is come up upon my land, strong, and without number, whose teeth are the teeth of a lion, and he hath the cheek teeth of a great lion. ( this nation was the Gentile nation. This nation rose up as a great lion. They were swifter than eagles, they were stronger than lions. There were twelve lions. ( apostles) at the beginning and multiplied and grew daily. Acts 6:7 And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith. Acts 12:24 But the word of God grew and multiplied. Then there arose up a new king (Satan or Adam or pastor. All the same) over Egypt.)
Vs 10…. their enemies were Jesus and the apostles which were in grace. They were afraid that the Gentiles were going to join them and they would be able to defeat the Egyptians( law nation) Their enemies ( grace) had become a great nation. They had become very fruitful. vs 11…. they set taskmasters ( pastors etc.) and they became slaves. That is what is happening in the church today. They are ruled over and have become slaves to their King. ( pastors etc) The people are living in bondage and they seem to like the bondage. They afflict them with their burdens. Paul said For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things.
Still on vs 11….. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses. ( they built them high places in all their cities and say ” Look What I Have Done.” Bring your goods or treasures and put in the storehouse and we will build more”. ……They say “Seest thou these great buildings”? Yes, we do see those great buildings. But let me tell you something pastors etc. We are now your enemy and there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. Yes, I said that and so did Jesus. I have the authority by the word of God. I have the power or right to give orders. You with your organizations are coming down. I am not alone. There are others. We will destroy these temples that are made with hands. We will pull down these barns with their storehouses and you will not be able to build back. People in these barns you are in bondage. This is from God, get out while you can. Your Egypt built by Hebrew slaves are coming down. Yes, I was a Hebrew slave at one time, but I heard the voice of God call me to come out of Egypt and into the true Israel.
vs 12……. But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew. And they were grieved because of the children of Israel. ( yes, we are becoming stronger and we will and are multiplying in number. Yes you are grieving because the true children of Israel are no longer Hebrew slaves.) 13 And the Egyptians made the children of Israel to serve with rigour ( as I said in the title, people you are living in bondage and it is only going to be a hardship, after hardship. You will be greatly afflicted.It is going to cause you to grow cold and colder in the Lord. Before long Rigor Mortis. Not a good site but true. vs…. 14 And they made their lives bitter with hard bondage, in morter, and in brick, and in all manner of service in the field: all their service, wherein they made them serve, was with rigour. ( hard bondage is you are going to become stubborn and stiff-necked and you will not listen to a true Israelite. Which I believe the church is already at that stage. You have a heavy yoke which these so-called men of God put on you and you are going to serve Egypt no matter what. In mortar is showing that you are in miry clay and there is no way to escape. Where is your so-called man of God? He is nowhere to be found because he also is on sinking sand. That old Jerusalem is falling down because the building was built on sinking sand also. They were using slime for mortar. They were using bricks for stones. The true church was built on 12 stones and has the chief cornerstone holding it up. 1 Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Revelation 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. People once again you are living in bondage. Paul said Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? ( what did Paul just say? He said you desire again to be in bondage. I am so glad that I am not in bondage but have been set free by Jesus Christ.