In order to understand this message, you first need to know what/who the old serpent is. As I have already proven in many messages, That old serpent, in Eden, was Adam. Jesus called the hypocrite pharisees of his day, serpents. John also called them serpents and vipers.
If you look up Adam, in Strongs, you will see one of the meanings is a hypocrite; a mean, low man.
Looking up, Serpent, in any dictionary will show it is a wicked man.
Looking up Serpent, in Strongs, it shows a hypocrite, also to whisper a magic spell!
So God is not speaking of any natural animals, when he refers to such as, sheep, goats, hogs, dogs, or serpents. God uses certain characteristics of animals, that show the nature of different people. The hissing of the serpent, in strongs, shows it is whispering a magic spell. So we find then that the old serpent, Adam, the hypocrite, was whispering stuff to Eve, with which he deceived her into disobeying God. Now why did he do this? It is for one reason…Adam wanted to be God; he wanted to worshiped and lifted up above all others.
All of this is solidly proven in many of my messages, so I am not going to give the scriptures to prove this, in this message, for that is not what I wish to teach here. But unless you can see this, you will not understand or believe what God has shown me today, concerning the hissing of this serpent.
For the sake of shortening this and making it faster for me to write it, I will not take the time to look up and write many of the actual verses. If you study the word of God much at all, you should know these anyway.
This is where the serpent began his hissing, or whispering his spells to Eve. By this spell, he deceived her into thinking something wrong was with God and that God had actually lied to them. Eve BELIEVED what her husband told her. This was her first mistake. It cost her her freedom, and the glory she had then.
So, what was his next hissing to her? This will come as a surprise to almost everyone. Now I know you may not see this, but here is another of the serpent’s hissing to Eve: Jer 7:
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¶ Cut off thine hair, O Jerusalem, and cast it away, and take up a lamentation on high places; for the LORD hath rejected and forsaken the generation of his wrath.
Now why would he whisper this to Eve? Because he knew that God had given THE WOMAN power on her head and this power rest in her long, uncut hair. Paul said, therefore ought the woman to have power on her head, because of the angels. So serpent Adam knew that when Eve cut off her long, beautiful hair, she would be showing the rejected and forsaken generation of God’s wrath and lose her power. Therefore he could RULE OVER HER. This is what he was after, from the start, to be set up to rule so he could act as GOD. He had said, in Eze 28, I am God.
Later Adam had set up animal sacrifices and many other things which God has always hated. He then proceeded to cut the woman out of the things of God, by saying, women cannot speak or teach or preach. Women must be obedient and in silence. Thus he destroyed her ability to be his HELP MEET. (You will need to look up these words in Strongs, to see the true meaning of them. It is not what your English leads you to believe; I have it my other messages, so will not post it here.)
Here is another place the ‘serpent’ was hissing, or whispering his spell: 1Cor 14:
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¶ Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
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And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Now everyone has taken the above as if God said this. They have totally torn down the work of Jesus Christ, which was to bring again the EQUALITY which God had made at first, between the man and the woman. Adam, in his subtlety had torn that down, when He gained the rulership over Eve, by making her fall under law. Notice, the very next verse proves that it was not God saying the above, but the men of that church, who had gone back to LAW. By the law is no salvation. By the law is no one justified. The law is a curse. The Law brought death, so it is that tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Hence, when they partook of this tree, it brought death, and the woman being ruled over and having to live silent, instead of teaching the glorious things of God, as God had intended. HELP MEET.
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What! came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
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¶ If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
(The things I, Paul write unto you; not the things Moses wrote).
Notice, the EXCLAMATION. WHAT! Paul was letting it be known that this is NOT his words. He was addressing things they had written him about. He was quoting here, the words those men had written to him. Let the woman keep silent, going back to LAW…as also saith the LAW. They backed up their words with LAW. So this is the serpent still hissing at the woman, trying to take her totally away from God.
This is also the method serpent uses to tear down the power and glory of God from working among the people of God. For if they be divided, no power will be for them. Jesus said, if a house be divided, it will fall. Jesus also said, the two, husband and wife, shall be ONE. Now if one is ruling over the other, they cannot be ONE. To be ONE means to be equal. So if he rules over her, she is a bond child or servant; NOT A FREE WOMEN. Therefore, they cannot be ONE and they have no power.
If she cannot speak, teach, preach, and lead, then she is not a help meet. If she is not a help meet, then satan is leading them. So in tearing down the freedom of the woman, Satan, or serpent, has won and he is the leader or the one to be worshiped. Only when they are united as ONE, can they have the power of God, for it comes to them as a UNIT. If he rules over her, then God is not ruling over either. The man has thus established himself as their ‘god’. This was serpent Adam’s goal from the start. He had said, I will ascend above the stars of God; I will be like the most high; I am God. Isa14 and Ez 28.
JeREMIAH 2:
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¶ For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.
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Yet I had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me?
Now I know everyone thinks this is speaking to the nation of old Israel, and of course that is in view. But it is not the primary meaning here. God was speaking to Adam here. The green true, primarily the Cedar, represents Adam. He is called a Cedar in the garden of God, in Ez. (This is the reason for the decorated green trees at Xmass; it is their god, Adam.)
There is much in Scripture proving that the Cedar, represents Adam, Eve, and later, Jesus. But I will not bring in all of that here. Read Ez 17. These great ‘eagles’ represent first, Adam, then Eve, and last, Jesus. I would have to write a big book to prove this to you, as I have learned it. So cannot do that in this message. But if you have studied enough, with the Spirit teaching you, you should know this.
Now, Ez 17:
24 And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done it.
What is the purpose of this verse being here? It is to prove that Jesus took down that high and mighty tree, of MEN, lifting themselves up above others. This was prophesied by Mary, the mother of Jesus: Luke 1:
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And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
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and my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
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For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
Notice here, it calls the WOMAN to be of LOW ESTATE. You must learn this, to see this full truth. The WOMEN were held in LOW ESTATE from Adam till Jesus. Why? That old serpent ruling over her; law, which is hated by God. Now this ‘low estate’ is the same thing in the Word as the dry tree. Watch this:
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For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
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And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.
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He hath showed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
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He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exalted them of low degree.
This is the same prophesy as given in Jeremiah that he would dry up the green tree and raise up the dry tree. Here God has brought down the proud man, from his mighty ‘seat’. This ‘seat’ means his place of RULING. The ‘SEAT’ of Satan, is said to be in the Church. This means the throne or his place of rulership. So here man, is being brought down from his ‘throne’ of ruling over the woman. They are the PROUD ones that God has scattered in their own imagination. They ‘imagined’ that they are god; should be ruling over their own wife. See, here God put these proud men (serpents) down from their ‘seats’ and EXALTED them of LOW DEGREE.
So who are those of LOW DEGREE? Mary clearly showed it to be WOMEN. So if God EXALTED them, why are they still being ruled over? Why are they still being told, keep silent? That old serpent has risen his ugly head up again, tearing down the work of Jesus Christ to bring again the EQUALITY which God set up in the beginning. Serpent tore down this work of EXALTING them of Low Degree, or the daughters of God. WOMEN.
How did serpent do this matter of tearing down the exalted women? He is still hissing his spell, LET THE WOMAN KEEP SILENT; SHE IS NOT PERMITTED TO SPEAK, BY LAW. So every man, (or woman for that matter), who utters this, tearing down daughters of God, from being the HELP MEETS, which God said to be, (this means leading, preaching, teaching, aiding, protecting, etc)_is SERPENTS hissing their spells.
Luke 23:
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But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
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For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck.
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Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us. Hos. 10.8 · Rev. 6.16
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For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?
Jesus here is showing that the man kingdom, which was crucifying him, is the green tree. He told the daughters to weep for yourselves, and your children, for what will they do in the dry tree? They will say, do not have children; do not breast feed: you are blessed if you cannot bear; do not attempt to be a soul winner, or bear spiritual children to God, for WE SERPENTS HISSED OUR WAY BACK UP TO THE TOP AGAIN. KEEP SILENT, YOU WOMEN; YOU ARE NOT PERMITTED TO SPEAK, AS ALSO SAITH THE LAW.
Now, go back and read Ez 17: 24 again…all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the HIGH TREE, HAVE EXALTED THE LOW TREE,
(is not this the very prophesy of Mary? And fulfilled by Jesus? Of exalting those of law estate? The Low Tree is this same low estate.) … Have dried up the green tree, and have made the DRY TREE to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done it.
FOLKS I am warning you all, both men and women, you had better drop this hissing of that old serpent, telling the daughters of God, (those of low estate) that they cannot speak, teach, preach, or anything else God has). This is the LORD God, saying I have done this. God did this. God put down the high tree, or green tree, the proud men, in their high seats, and raised up, or exalted those of low degree, the WOMEN.
You are fighting against the work of God himself, when you bring women back down to low estate, law. You are sinning against God himself, when you proclaim, this HISSING, YOUR WOMEN CANNOT SPEAK IN CHURCH. Let them keep silent. It is the HISSING OF THAT OLD SERPENT, ADAM. It is again setting himself up above God, saying, no, you cannot exalt those of low estate. I put them there, and they will stay there. God, you cannot exalt those WOMEN. I have successfully torn them down again. Adam has again lifted himself up against Jesus Christ and God, by hissing his spells to everyone since the time Jesus fulfilled that prophesy, to put the proud men down from their lofty seats, and raise up the women, or those of low degree, or that dry tree. God said, I have caused that dry tree to FLOURISH. So why is it not flourishing today? That old serpent is STILL HISSING IN EVE’S EAR.
Where?
Remember, who was the serpent at enmity with? The WOMAN. Was he at enmity with men? Never, for he is the man. Why has he fought women all the way? To keep this HELP MEET from being able to do the work of a HELP MEET. (if you think this means helping a man do things, you are missing the truth of God, all the way).
Now Rev 12:
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¶ And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
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And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, Dan. 7.25 ; 12.7 from the face of the serpent.
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And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
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And the earth helped the woman; and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
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And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
The dragon and the serpent, and the devil/satan, are all one and the same one = Adam.
So this dragon/satan, was WROTH WITH THE WOMAN. See, that old enmity is still there, down at the end. That old serpent is still there, at the end of the world, standing before the WOMAN, to destroy her manchild. Glory.
So what did this old serpent do? He cast out of his MOUTH< (speak words)..(many men speaking his words, is his mouth)…>
Water, as a FLOOD, after the WOMAN, that he might cause HER to be carried AWAY with the flood.
So what is that flood? It is coming out his MOUTH, so could only be WORDS; OLD SERPENT STILL HISSING HIS SPELLS or LIES.
Woman, be quiet. It is not permitted to you to speak. You are to be obedient to ME, and you are to be in LOW ESTATE, and you are a bond child; not a free woman. You cannot speak the words of God, which He gives you.
If you believe these lies, if you speak these lies, if you live these lies, you are part of this old serpent, hissing his evil spells, causing the daughters of God to be carried away with your flood! Repent or perish!
Praise my God for this glorious message he has given this daughter of his, today.
How the entire world, even the daughters, themselves, (still deceived by serpent hissing)..hate to hear a daughter of God, proclaiming this glorious WORD OF GOD, AS DID MARY AND ELIZABETH, Hannah, and others, who found GRACE! NOT LAW!
Eve is the most misunderstood person who has ever lived. She has been slandered more and put down more and cursed more than any other person who has ever lived. Why? She held a position which no one else in Scripture has held, that of being a HELP MEET. I have never heard anyone else who understood or taught what this “HELP MEET’ means. Why has Satan fought this one woman so hard, for so long?
These answers need to be brought forth and received into the hearts of this world’s people. What has caused all this misunderstanding and slandering of this Holy Woman? It began with her serpent husband, Adam, lying to God about who really was to blame for their sin. Adam was that subtle serpent. His lying tongue brought up all the lies against the HOLY MOTHER OF ALL LIVING. Just yesterday a person told me that Eve was stubborn and rebellious. I asked where do you get that. The Word of God does NOT SAY SUCH A THING.
God never at any time laid sin to Eve or blamed her for anything. There has to be a reason and yet the entire world lays the sin and blame on Eve. Why? They are listening to the lies of Serpent Adam, which are STILL being hurled around the world. Almost everyone believes these lies, without questioning or seeking the truth, from God’s word.
I fully believe the truth about Eve HAS to come forth to the light, before any further enlightenment or powerful blessings can or will come forth from God to us.
God has been teaching me about the truth of Adam and Eve for many years. I fully believe He has given me a commission to bring this truth out and that is why I keep writing and trying to tell people this truth. It MUST BE TOLD.
Before I get into this message for today, learn what HELP MEET means, else you will never understand the real truth.
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1Cor. 11:7-For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8-For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
9-Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.
Now, here it has been assumed for all these years that this means the woman was created for the ‘pleasure’ of or to be a type of ‘possession’ of the man. But that is not the case at all. For proof of this go back to Genesis.
2:18-And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone: I will make him an help meet for him.
Now look help up in the Strong’s Hebrew: it is #5826–It means this: to surround, i.e. protects or aid: help, succor.
The word, ‘meet’ has the same meaning. So this makes it clear that the woman’s natural use = the thing God created her for- was not for sex. This is not even mentioned in the original meaning of the word, help meet.
So, this explains that the woman was created for the purpose of surrounding, protecting, aiding, helping, and succoring the man. So, he needed her.”
Adam had already sinned, and rebelled against God before Eve was created. It is recorded in Ez 28. So God gave Eve to Adam, for the very purpose of leading Adam back to God and helping him live a Holy life. But Adam did not want this. He did not wish to live for God. He had already set his own heart as the heart of God and was determined to be God. He desired to be worshiped as God. When you see preachers, lifting themselves up above the others in the church, you are seeing this same serpent, lifting himself up to be worshiped. Admiring a person or thing is the equivalent of worship.
If Adam had loved Eve, held to her and stayed with her, as equals, obeying God, as was intended, they would have been alright and never fell into the sin which caused God to cast Adam out of Eden and take away their glorified state, placing man into the dust of the ground. Death would never have passed on the human race. But Adam wanted nothing of the sort. He wanted to BE GOD.
No matter how many people deny this truth, it will stand forever, for it is the revelation of the Word of God. Nothing else which has been taught about these two people is written in God’s word. THIS IS.
Now, let’s go to the solid proof of all of this:
Ge 3: . 20And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. (Mother of all LIVING. This LIVING is not speaking of all humans, which of course she is; but it means those who have the life of God, for this is the true LIFE OR LIVING. So she is the ‘MOTHER’ or originator of Holy People of God. That is what this means. Adam is never called the father of the living or the righteous. Abraham is called the father of the righteous.
Ga 4: 26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. (Now these two verses solidly tie Eve as the Mother of the people of God, the Christians. It proves she is the same in Scripture as the Holy Jerusalem, which is the Holy city of God. So I am telling all of you who still think evil of Eve, and slander her Holy Name, you had better seek forgiveness and learn the Word of God. )
He 12: 22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect .
Here God calls the city of God, the heavenly Jerusalem. It has not one thing to do with the earthly Jerusalem, which men dote on and think is of God. It is not of God. This Holy city is also called the church of The firstborn. Jesus is the firstborn from the dead. So this heavenly Jerusalem is the church of which Jesus is the head.
And I John saw the holy city, newJerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Now if this holy city is the bride of Christ, Eve is this holy city. She is the Mother of it. How could she be wicked, or sinful, if she is the ‘Mother’ of all living; the Holy city; the bride of Christ?
Now, whose SEED is Christ? Who is Eve’s Seed? Was Cain counted for HER seed? Do you know? Whose Seed is Cain called in the Word of God? Whose SEED was righteous Abel? Whose Seed was Seth called to be? Any idea? For your own sake, try to answer these questions, before reading any further. See if you really know the truth of God’s word.
God said, GROW in GRACE and KNOWLEDGE. Now if you are not regularly gaining more knowledge of the truth of God, you are not growing in it and are not into the truth or on the right foundation. If you cannot answer, rightly, the above questions, perhaps you need to study to see if you are on the right foundation, growing in grace and knowledge.
Now for a few more questions before I proceed: Who do you think Satan is? What is his name? Is he an angel? Everyone I hear of thinks Satan is an angel, the most beautiful angel of God. Where do they get this? They say Lucifer is Satan, or an angel. What Scripture says this? Do you know? Now IF satan IS an angel, how has he deceived the whole world? Does not the whole world say Satan is an angel? Sure they do, so then how has he deceived them? Or do you not believe what the Word of God says? God said, satan has deceived the whole world. The whole world says Satan is an angel.
Who do you think the old serpent is or was? Most folks claim it was some kind of animal which Satan used to deceive Eve. But does not the Word of God clearly say that the old serpent IS SATAN, THE DEVIL AND THE DRAGON? Sure it does.
Rev 12: 9 And the great dragon was cast out , that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (and this is not the only place, but it is enough. This clearly said that the dragon is the old serpent and the devil and Satan. Are you going to call this word of God a lie, to uphold your little prophets?
Ez 28 clearly said that the anointed cherub, which everyone calls satan, is a MAN, whom God created perfect and later cast out of Eden for his wickedness. That could be none other than ADAM. If any of you know of anyone else who fits this description, show it to me. Isa 14 says that Lucifer was a MAN. Who do you believe?
Now this proves that Adam is Satan, that old serpent. Adam is the wicked one of whom Cain is called the wicked one’s seed. So Cain is Adam’s seed. Adam is the father of the wicked. He is the father of lies. So everything he told about Eve was LIES.
Now back to our questions. Ge 3: 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. 16 Unto the woman he said , I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
God told the serpent, I will put enmity between you and the WOMAN. Serpent was never at enmity with man, for he is the man. God put enmity between the serpent’s seed and the seed of the woman. God was speaking to the serpent here. He said, to the serpent, it (her seed) shall bruise your head and you shall bruise his heel.
So who/what, was her seed? Doesn’t everyone say this is prophesy of Jesus Christ, to bruise the head of that old serpent? Then if this be true, doesn’t this clearly say that Jesus is the Seed of Eve? How could you miss this? If she is the sinful one, the wicked one, HOW IS JESUS CHRIST HER SEED? How is she the mother of the righteous? How is she synonymous with the Holy Jerusalem? How is she the City of God? The Church of the firstborn? Do you really know God’s truth? Or have you allowed sinful men to totally deceive you into reversing the righteous one with the wicked one? I say that is the case with about 100% of people on this earth.
God spoke of revealing the wicked one. If he is an angel, everyone already knows him, don’t they. But isn’t it true that the world does not know who the wicked one is? Of course it is true. I am revealing right here, who the wicked one is. It is God’s son, ADAM. By one MAN, ADAM, sin entered this world and death by that one man. Can any of you deny this, without calling God a lie? God never one time named sin for Eve. He never one time said sin entered this world by Eve or woman. If you know of any place that God called her wicked, show it to me. Not one word of righteousness is ever named in Scripture for ADAM. He is the wicked one.
Whose seed was the RIGHTEOUS ABEL? Let’s see. Ge 4: 25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth:
For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew . 26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.
Eve is the only one of the two who ever praised God. She praised God for each of her children. You cannot find one single word in Scripture where Adam ever praised or loved God. In fact, Adam is never said to have loved ANYONE. Show it to me if you think he did.
Eve said, of Seth, God hath APPOINTED me ANOTHER SEED instead of ABEL, whom Cain slew.
Now here she goes by the principle of God, naming sin to Cain. His sins are remembered against him, so he never repented. This shows that the righteous line is HER SEED. God APPOINTED her another seed, instead of Abel. So the righteous was her seed. Seth’s line began calling on the name of the Lord; so they departed from Adam worship, as did Abel. Abel never was into that evil, and this is why he was killed.
Eve’s righteous seed continues on down until it reached JESUS CHRIST. He is the promised seed which would bruise the head of that old serpent. So this solidly proves that Eve is the righteous one. She is the Mother of all living. She is the heavenly Jerusalem. If you are ever righteous, you will be HER SEED.
Now, is SHE the Tree of Life? Think on this. Isn’t the MOTHER the one who gives life? Is the Tree of Life a female? If she is the MOTHER of all LIVING, then this has to be the TREE OF LIFE. Eve, in Strongs Hebrew, means RESTORER OF LIFE. Look it up and see.
Adam means a hypocrite or low, mean man. Look it up for yourself and see.
And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the treeoflife also in the midst of the garden, and the treeof knowledge of good and evil.
Both of those TREES were there, together, in the midst of that garden. Jesus said, I am the vine and you are the branches. God said, The Assyrian was a CEDAR in Lebanon. Lebanon, means Eden. The Cedar, the Assyrian, is Satan, or Adam. So when all of this is known, we find that a tree shows a person, or a kingdom. So those two trees, in Eden, were not natural, physical trees. It was Adam and Eve.
As I told you, Adam had already become sinful and rebellious before Eve was created. He had already taken up sin and law. He had already become the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He already KNEW both good and evil. So God gave him a HELP MEET. This means one to lead, guide, succor, aid, and protect. Rather the world likes truth or not, this is true. God gave Eve to Adam to keep him from sinning any further and to come back into the grace covenant, to live only good.
But Adam refused. He tricked Eve into letting HIM LEAD OR RULE. He tricked her into thinking he was supposed to be the ruler. He deceived her into thinking that he knew better and that God knew if they listened to Adam, and followed Adam, they would be as GODS. After all, Adam, the anointed cherub, or covering, had already said, I am God. Ez 28.
Many of the words in Scripture, which people think are God’s words or Gods wishes, are actually those of ADAM, old serpent, hissing out his enchantments.
This is exactly why God told Eve, your husband will now rule over you. She had placed herself under him, when she listened to him, instead of to what God had said. This was not something that God wanted. It was right the opposite of what God wanted. But God sees that now Adam has asserted himself up above his help meet, so that is where it fell….to the wicked one ruling this world. Everyone says Adam gave it to Satan. There is not one word of Scripture which says this. Adam is Satan. It was given to him when Eve obeyed him, instead of staying in the place of help meet, which means to surround and protect. She lost her ability to surround Adam and aid him or protect him from this very fall.
You cannot find one word showing that God drove Eve out of Eden. He drove out the MAN. That tree of life stayed right there. But God would not allow Adam to reverse it and now return to the leadership of Eve. He had lost that ability and she had lost her power, when she allowed him to deceive her into cutting off her hair. She is Jerusalem. Cut off thine hair, Jerusalem. (Jeremiah 7:29) How could a natural city have hair to cut off? Think, people. THINK.
And the LORD God said , Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the treeoflife, and eat , and live for ever:
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way , to keep the way of the treeoflife.
See, God drove out the MAN. It does not say he drove out the woman. That tree of LIFE, (MOTHER OF ALL LIVING) WAS NOT DRIVEN OUT. Only the man was driven out.
You might say, why then did God say to Adam, because you have harkened to the voice of your wife…. It is the same way Paul quoted back to the men at Corinth, what they were saying, let the woman keep silent. Everyone thinks that Paul said that as it was God’s word. But NO. Paul was only quoting their own words to them…THEN rebuked it. God did the same thing here…he quoted Adam’s LIE to him, as saying, so this is what you say happened.
How could she have talked Adam into it when it was Adam who deceived her? Adam was NOT DECEIVED. This means he KNEW BETTER. He sinned WILLFULLY, THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN. He had known God, then willfully chose to sin. He never repented or was forgiven. Everyone tries to say Adam did not transgress. Read Job 31 and you will see he did. Read what Paul said, by one man sin entered this world.
Romans 5: 12 Wherefore , as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned : 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come .
Also Paul said, as in ADAM all DIE. It is so clearly laid out that only a dumb person or one who deliberately deceives their own heart, could not see this.
Now lets’ look at which gender the tree of life is:
Hope deferred maketh the heart sick : but when the desire cometh , it is a treeoflife—(Her hope for LIFE, was deferred, due to their having sinned and her being put under Adam to rule. But after Jesus came and spoke again those words of Life, which Eve had to begin with, then her hope came and she was delivered of her manchild. Then that Tree of Life flourished again and bore children to God. Now her children could EAT OF THE TREE OF LIFE, those words of God, spoken by Jesus Christ. THEY ARE THIS TREE OF LIFE, BEARING CHILDREN TO GOD.)
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the treeoflife, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the treeoflife, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
(On EITHER side of this RIVER, was there the Tree of Life. See, Eve had it on that side and Jesus had it on this side.)
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the treeoflife, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Now those are the verses I found on the Tree of Life. This Tree is referred to as a FEMALE.
So, if she bears fruit, this means has a child. She is a Mother, BEARING CHILDREN TO GOD. It was her SPIRITUAL birthing children, which was multiplied and in sorrow. She was persecuted from their fall on onward. Her children, the righteous, have always been persecuted by the wicked. It said a wholesome tongue, or right words, truth, is a tree of life.. Then it said, we will be given to EAT OF THE TREE, or as Jesus said, EAT MY FLESH, WHICH IS HIS WORDS. It is her words. We will then come into wholesome words or truth, so this is the TREE OF LIFE. It comes from the mouth of all who have God’s truth.
Peter said to Jesus, to whom shall we go; You have the WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE.
Eve had those words of eternal life, to feed to Adam. But he deceived her into WORDS OF LAW instead. INSTEAD of upholding the blood of Jesus Christ as the one and only accepted sacrifice, he talked Eve into killing and sacrificing a SWINE ON THE ALTAR.
Isa 65: I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not: I said , Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name. 2 I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts;
3 A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick;
4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments , which eat swine’s flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels; 5 Which say , Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. (This is Adam, saying, I am God. I am holier than all others, I don’t need God; I am God.)
Isa 66: 17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
Isa 66: 1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool : where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? 2 For all those things hath mine hand made , and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look , even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.
3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog’s neck ; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine’s blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.
4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called , none did answer ; when I spake , they did not hear : but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.
The above is speaking of what Adam did in Eden. He set up animal sacrifices right here. It is something which God shows in Heb 10 that he never delighted in . God shows in Isa one, that he HATES this thing. He hates offering oblations. He hates burning incense. Read Isa 1 and see. There OT law things have ALWAYS been an abomination to God. This OT covenant; law, is what Adam set up. God told him not to ever do this, go to law. But he did it for in law he could rule over others and be looked up to as god.
Adam and law are synonymous. They are that tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
See they tried to purify themselves in the GARDENS behind ONE TREE, in the MIDST…can you not see this? It is clearly identifying what Adam and Eve did in the garden of Eden…eating swine’s flesh…killing oxen. God said it is the same to him as killing a man. Satan was a murderer from the beginning. He killed those pigs, oxen, and lambs. God said it was the same to him as cutting off a dog’s neck. The He said, they chose their own ways and delighted in their abominations. Then he spoke of when he called to Adam and Adam did not answer.
How much plainer would it need to be said for you people to wake up and SEE THIS TRUTH?
Eve did not know at the time that this was wrong. It said, she was DECEIVED. She truly thought this was the way God wanted things done. So to her, it was not rebellion or sin. God does not count it against one, when they do not know better. In her heart, she was true to God. When she saw it was wrong, she repented and turned back to God. How do I know? She is the one praising God. She is the one who was promised the true Seed of deliverance. She is called the Mother of all living. She is called the Holy Jerusalem or city of God.
God does not remember any sin against Eve. It is not named. He does remember Adam’s sins all the way through the end. God said sin entered this world by Adam. He said as in Adam all die. Nothing good is ever connected with Adam. So he never repented. God remembers his sins against him forever. Adam is lost. Adam is the devil or satan. Adam has deceived the whole world into thinking that he is the righteous one and Eve is the wicked one. Yet not one word of righteousness is ever named to Adam. This is why MEN still tell women, YOU MUST BE SILENT. YOU CANNOT SPEAK THE WORDS OF GOD, EVEN IF GOD REVEALS IT TO YOU.
My husband used to tell me, that I could not tell the things which God had revealed to me, that he should be the one. I asked him, then why did God reveal it to me and not to you? Yet at the time, I still believed that lie myself. Yet my spirit just could not accept that lie. I suffered, spiritually, as did my Mother, Eve, over these things. But Thank God, he finally revealed this great truth to me…I AM NOT UNDER LAW, SO I AM FREE TO SPEAK GOD’S WORD.
In Christ, there is neither male nor female, but we are ALL ONE, BACK WHERE GOD PUT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. Jesus raised up or exalted that DRY TREE, OR THOSE OF LOW ESTATE.
Praise my glorious Savior, HE SET ME FREE. If your husband rules over you, you are a bond child and not heirs to the promises of God. You are then BOTH UNDER THAT LAW AND WILL BE LOST, FOR YOU HAVE REJECTED GOD’S GRACE; TRUTH, JUST AS ADAM AND EVE DID.
Hi, I just wanted to tell you something. last night, I was in something like a sub-counscious. I thought at the time that I was awake, but when I awoke fully, I realized that I had not been fully awake.
God was telling me things; it seemed like I was preaching it to others. I went through the Word, many places, showing them Eve. It was fantastic. It was so clear, the places that God showed me was Eve.
I cannot remember it all now, truly wish I could. It was a marvelous revelation. I was asking them, if they knew where Eve is. Then Go God was showing me where Eve is now. He traced her through many scriptures and came to this: the serpent has tried to destroy the HELP MEET, since the beginning of her life. If the help meet ever gets into full control, the world will come to peace and glory. Serpent will no longer be in control and his evil will be stopped.
So he did all kinds of bad things to Eve, to stop her mission. First, he talked her into shaving her head! This cut off her power, so then he could lead her into deception and the transgression.
He made her keep her hair cut off, so she could not regain her power. ThenGod showed me that the NUNS, are this de-faced Eve.¨C11C¨C12C¨C13C¨C14C¨C15C¨C16C¨C17C¨C18C¨C19C¨C20C¨C21C¨C22C¨C23C¨C24C¨C25C¨C26C¨C27C¨C28C¨C29C¨C30C¨C31C¨C32C¨C33C¨C34C¨C35C¨C36C¨C37C¨C38C¨C39C¨C40C¨C41C¨C42C¨C43C¨C44C¨C45C¨C46C¨C47C¨C48C¨C49C¨C50C¨C51C¨C52C¨C53C¨C54C¨C55C¨C56C
I just thought I would post my answer to this question that was on another board that I am on.
It is the CARM Board.
Tweety134 I have studied Gen. 3:15 almost daily. And many discussions have come out of it and still continue to this day. The person being spoken about in Gen. 3:15 is EVE. Adam I suppose by the time EVE was speaking with the serpent, which by the way Adam was standing beside her when they ate of the forbidden fruit. Some questions should come to mind. Why did Adam not tell EVE to not eat the fruit? Let us go back to what GOD said to Adam BEFORE EVE was created.
Genesis 2:16 (KJV) 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: Genesis 2:17 (KJV) 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
Now GOD told Adam not to “Eat” of the tree. And if you look at what EVE said to the serpent, you will read something different:
Genesis 3:3 (KJV) 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
Now my question to all of you is: Did GOD say what Eve said? NO! Eve was repeating what Adam had told her GOD said. Adam is the wicked one in the Bible.
Eve’s Seed in Gen. 3:15 was the prophecy of Jesus Christ. Eve did do something that was bad though. She added to GOD’s WORD. And she uttered the lie that Adam had told her.
Still think EVE was the bad one? Who is the wicked one in this verse talking about?
1 John 3:12 (KJV) 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.
Why was Adam not deceived in the Garden? Why did he not stop EVE from taking of the fruit? Please remember this verse: Romans 5:12 (KJV) 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Adam is the only one that is being referred to in this verse. When will this world wake up and see that we have all been deceived into believing that EVE was the sinful one. And it was Adam that was the sinful one.
Eve repented of her sins and continued to glorify GOD.
Continue to read the WORD OF GOD daily. Seek and you shall find.
Freeborn, This is what I was reading the other day and saw JESUS in verse 60… She was blessed, and carried the SEED of EVE. And this is also speaking of Jesus.. I have to find that statement somewhere else. I know I had read it.
Love Ya. Tweety
Genesis 24:58-60 (KJV) 58 And they called Rebekah, and said unto her, Wilt thou go with this man? And she said, I will go. 59 And they sent away Rebekah their sister, and her nurse, and Abraham’s servant, and his men. 60 And they blessed Rebekah, and said unto her, Thou art our sister, be thou the mother of thousands of millions, and let thy seed possess the gate of those which hate them.
Ok, it was said to Abraham by GOD.
Genesis 22:17 (KJV) 17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
So Rebekah and Issac both had the Promise Seed. Interesting.
wowo, Tweety. You have been doing some reading. Me too. But not in Psalm. I have been —- finally, after studying 50 years, seeking the answers in Daniel…. finally… an answer to prayer… just today…answers, tying all of this back to Genesis ONE. solid proof.
wanted to read in Daniel….but no…..answers not there….only questions….which must be answered else where….finally…God took me into Romans…and there is the proof of what God was showing me in the Spirit.
Yes, the promise was first made to MOTHER EVE. THY SEED SHALL BRUISE THE SERPENTS HEAD. That is the PROMISE. (read Romans 16)clue there.
The commandment to restore and build JERUSALEM, is NOT speaking of the natural city, old jerusalem.
It is speaking about the lose of SONS OF GOD, THE HOLY JERUSALEM.
That promise was fulfilled the day Jesus Christ was resurrected BACK into SON OF GOD, – THE ADOPTION…THE REDEMPTION OF OUR …..BODY.(clue…Adam lost it)
The holy city, Jerusalem, is glorified bodies = sons of God. (Romans 8: 22,23. read it)((the end is with a FLOOD)
The whole creation is groaning in pain, waiting for the manifestation of SONS OF GOD = HOLY JERUSALEM
the commandment to restore and build JERUSALEM, is that promise made to EVE….fulfilled in Jesus Christ…..no sons of God since the flood,,,till that resurrection.
Go read those weeks….62 AND 7. Has not one thing to do with man’s time.
Glory to God.
nite nite. Hope to write it up very soon. (children of God, study it)V23. PAUL said we ourselves still WAITING for that redemption which is adoption. not one soul is adopted yet.) msn-freeborn551 wrote on Feb 26, ’08 Larry, hope you see this, and look into it. Remember what we talked of one day? It is finally clearing up.
God spoke to me today, said, if he had to show me the four kingdoms started with ADAM, then surely those 70 weeks had to start with Adam also.
No wonder I could not see the answers. Yes, it starts in Genesis one. Everything starts there.
those 62 weeks…..must go back to Genesis one. Yep, this is the answer and why Scofield led the world into darkness…….trying to tie all of this to natural jews. It is the worst deception of all time…..those old jewish fables, …are cutting everyone out of salvation and knowledge of TRUTH.
Yes, the promise was first made to MOTHER EVE.
What was the promise? Acts 2:38 (King James Version) King James Version (KJV)
2:38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 2:39 (King James Version)
2:39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call. The afar off are the ones on the other side of the flood as well as the ones in the New TESTAMENT
I just thought that I would put this here when I was studying this morning. Everyone thinks that for a man to be the head of the wife is what the Bible says: But if we will read the events of what happened we will see something entirely different.
Genesis 3:16 (KJV) 16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
This is what GOD said the punishment would be for EVE for disobedience. Now read it very carefully. Her desire shall be to thy husband. Now what can that mean? I know that you think that her desire was to be towards Adam. But I do not think this means that. I think what it meant was that Eve’s desire would be towards Christ. I know that many of you have seen where Eve is referred to as the BRIDE OF CHRIST. Just keep that in mind as you reread the scriptures above.
Revelation 12 King James Version (KJV) 12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. 3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
Since Rev covers things that are, (present), shall be, (future), and that WERE, (past), this has to include history of Mother Eve. So I am looking at this now as about Eve. She is the Holy New Jerusalem = Mother of all living = having the life of God. Her SEED is the Holy Seed. Her child is Jesus Christ. Yet, it moves down through time, as the righteous seed passes from generation to generation. It was first in Mother Eve, then in Abel; then in Seth, and so on.
But back in Eve’s life time, she was this holy woman, clothed with the SUN = NT GRACE…. or the Christ. Her child she born was Abel. That dragon stood there to devour that righteous seed, for He stood against Adam’s and Cain’s evil, in turning many from Grace/God, to law/satan.
p.s. I wrote this several years ago, when we had MSN site. This was placed under a topic we were studying of the Seed of the Woman: (IT is great)
Well this is my third attempt to send this message. We are having a lightening storm and each time I start to send this, lightening cuts the puter off.
I am trying to tell you that this subject of the woman’s seed is of much more importance than you might imagine.
I am sure you see the very, very evil and hideous teaching some are giving out, accusing Eve of having sex with some animal, or half-animal creature, and that this brought forth Cain. This is a satanic doctrine. It leads to much hatred of women, and men living in lust and sin. They are very misled as to God’s intention for men and women to live together.
God never meant for Adam to rule over Eve. God still does not mean for men to rule over anyone. See the false teaching of a serpent seed, as they claim, leads to all kinds of evil living.
The serpent was Adam. Adam is satan. the serpent is satan. satan hates us women. men hate us. God does not hate us.
This is not as I first wrote it. but cannot redo it. I hope you will stay with this study a while, since you are seeing the evil false teaching on seeking the truth. (funny how they mis-named that site….if they are seeking truth, I am a strike of lightening.)
I will send this and do more later, in case lightening cuts me off again. But this is a very important subject. Jesus was the seed of the woman, not the serpent or man. He is the promised seed to EVE. So how could she be evil?
This subject impacts our lives much more than you realize. Men are off into lies, deception and evil, lusts filled lives because of this false and filthy teaching.
JO msn-freeborn551 wrote on Jun 13, ’07 Haha, Anne. That is great. way to go. down yonder. yep. it is good. and I agree with you fully. cuz you have a right to get the best job you can have. and I wish it for you.
I hope you get the one which is best for you. and learn that the seed is of utmost importance. It is no joke.
becuz if our Holy Mother, Eve, (the Mother of all LIVINGwas a bad thing, as some evil folks like to claim) then all is not well. all is lost….becuz Jesus was the woman’s seed. see?
He did NOT come from a MAN, do you understand? get this. girl. he did not come from a MAN. he came from a WOMAN. made of a WOMAN. bELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD. Proof? you need proof? I always PROVE what I teach, not with my words…..but with GOD’S WORD: watch:
Ga 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, Ga 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, thatwe might receive the adoption of sons.
See, it IS important…if not, God would not have made it clear right here, that Jesus was made OF A WOMAN,,,,,,thus, he is the WOMAN’S SEED. yet these evil, wicked, mad-men, (whom we cannot love and love God) are claiming had the seed of a ‘humid’ or cave man, or animal creature……..NOW DO YOU SEE, GIRL? SEE THE EVIL. Her seed was JESUS CHRIST….YET THEY CLAIM THAT HER SEED CAME FROM THE WICKED ACT OF ADULTRY, FROM A ‘HUMID’, CAVEMAN, SNAKE, SERPENT, DEVIL. Darling, DO YOU SEE? CAN YOU SEE? CAN YOU SEE THE IMPORTANCE?
They are calling JESUS CHRIST the seed of the serpent,,,,,,,,because he is HER SEED. IF HER SEED CAME FROM THE WICKED ONE,,,,,,,,,THEN THEY ARE CALLING THE SON OF GOD, THE WICKED ONE.
Now do you see the importance? I know you have to. Tweety, do you see? Larry do you see? ellya, if you still come here, DO YOU SEE? I am telling you all, this is not my words……..GOD GAVE ME THIS RIGHT NOW. I feel the power from on high so strong on me right now. It is awsome. God said, they are calling Jesus Christ the son of the devil. because:
Ge 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Ge 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
THERE: That proves it. God gave me this. the promise of theseed to bruise the head of the serpent was made to EVE. It was her seed. It was a prophecy to EVE. She is this woman. Jesus Christ came from her seed. not his. not from Adam. the serpent. but from the woman, EVE. Go tell it on the mountains. Go tell it everywhere. God is giving this to me. Take this flaming sword, ladies. daughters of God. Take this flaming sword and kill the enemies of this kingdom of JESUS CHRIST, the seed of the woman. All you daughters who will, reach out and take this flaming sword, it is burning in its greatness and strength, take it and it will devour all the enemies. Do not be afraid. reach out and take it into thy hands. It will bruise the head of that evil serpent, Adam. All those evil men who claim Eve had sex with a serpent, and not Adam, and committed adultry, are evil workers of Satan, and will be devoured with this sword. thus saith the Lord God. Those of you who can believe…..God gave me this, is giving me this right now……reach out and receive it. Receive the sword of the Lord. Men cannot stop you. They cannot stop us now. God has given us the sword of TRUTH. All truth is this flaming sword. It will burn away all the lies, the filthy doctrine of wicked men. Stay with the Word of God and truth will prevail and do away with the darkness of this evil night. Turn, turn, ye at my reproof. Turn away from the lies of men and believe the engrafted word of God, which will give you power from on high to burn out the stubble and set up the kingdom of Christ.
I had no idea of writting such a thing as this when I started this post. It came from God. He inspired this. It is His Truth. We do not have to guess. We do not have to be in confusion. Jesus gives us sure LIGHT, truth. It is what the Word of God says. Those wicked men cannot prove one word they say with God’s Word. EVE DID NOT EVER COMMIT ANY ADULTRY. it is lies from hell, from the pits of Satan. All who teach this ungodly lie, will be destroyed without mercy. My daughters, flee and get into truth and save your souls, and the souls of those who will hear you. p.s. I will also post this on the other thread. I cannot leave this prophecy just on the sign in board. HAD no idea such as this would come. But glory it did come. God is with us. Emmanuel is with us. Love ye, Jo p.s. (see, how I started out this post joking with Anne. But God turned it into a serious prophecy and teaching. I felt his power come on me and I forgot I had started out with the joking. I just now went back to proof read this, and was astonished to see that. I will leave it so you all can see and discern when the Spirit took over and my jesting was stopped. btw, that is something I very, very seldom do, as most of you know.)
Gen 1:27 -So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. ( Hey this says that the male and female was created in the image of God. Wonder why Tom if it is as you say why would he create an image of him and not let them be able to tell the world about him. Just does not make any sense to me.1:28 -And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. ( Seems like the woman is also blessed. How is she suppose to be fruitful and multiply and repleshish the earth if she is to keep her mouth shut? This is talking about spiritual things and not about having babies.1:31 -And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.Luke-1:26-35-001:026 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,001:027To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary.001:028And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.001:029 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.001:030 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.001:031And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.001:032He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:001:033And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.001:034 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?001:035And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.Ok allow me to go back and explain these words I have underlined.
This will take a lot of time and some hard work to do but if this helps even one person it will be worth it all to me and I also know God will bless me for the effort I have put into this. Praise the Lord and to him be all the glory.
The word favored or favor means the followings- [ friendly regard showed toward another person esp. by a superior-it also means to approve, choose, to show mercy, recover. Then I looked up the word recover to see what it meant and it meant the following-to get back again, to reclaim which means to restore, to recall from wrong conduct, to change from undesirable to a desired condition.
See she was approved of God and changed from undesirable to a desired condition and God showed mercy on her and restored her back to the original state and reclaimed what she was at the beginning a help meet. The word blessed means -to speak well of, praise, to be made holy. From this we see that she was no longer a cursed seed but a holy seed. See she had to be changed because a curse see can not bring forth a holy seed and that’s what he said that she was to do. He said that which is borned of you shall be holy and shall be called the Son of God.
The word trouble means- to be disturb, to worry.She began to worry and to be disturbed about this because she had always been taught that nothing holy could come from a woman because she was still under that curse. The same thing is happing in this day and time. Most everybody especially the church are keeping her under the bondage that God has set her free from. If you remember I said that it was God that set her free go back to vs.30-He told Mary fear not, for thou hast found favor with God. Clear cut evidence that it was God that set her free from this bondage and who God set free is free indeed .So you see women you are no longer under that curse you are free indeed.
Let me show you something here why this curse had to be removed from her before Jesus comes on the scene.
Math.- 7:16-20-
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Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
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Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
007:018 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
007:019 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
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Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. So we see from this that God had to remove the curse that he had placed on the woman before she could bring forth a good seed. He said in the above vs. that a corrupt seed could not bring forth a righteous seed.
The word overshadow means-to illuminate, to supply with spiritual or intellectual light- to exceed in importance, and also means to surpass which means-to exceed , to be or become superior to, worthy to be reverenced. LUKE-1:45-53- 001:045 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.
001:046 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
001:047 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
001:048 For he hath regarded the lowestate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
001:049 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.
001:050 And his mercy is on them that fear him from generation to generation.
001:051 He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. 001:052 He hath put down the mighty from their seats, and exaltedthem of lowdegree.
001:053 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away
VS.-48-He has regarded- means he showed her respect or to hold her in high esteem Low estate-means she was in a humble or unfavorable position
She was in a position that she could be mighty used of God because she had become humble before God.
Luke-18:14- I tell you, this [woman] went down to [her] house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and [she] that humbleth [herself] shall be exalted.
Now don’t go get upset and say I am changing scriptures to say what I want them to say. All I am trying to do is to show that the woman was in a humble state and by doing this she touched the heart of God and he exalted her. In other words he raised her up from that low estate she was in.
Exalt-means to raise up esp. in rank, power or dignity. She was found to be worthyHandmaiden-means to be a servant. He exalted her so she is no longer a servant but now she is a daughter.
From henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. Who was he referring to here? Was it Mary? No he was referring to his handmaidens. You see what he did for Mary he did for all you women. He removed that yoke of bondage or that so called curse. See God is no respecter or person. What he does for one he will do for all. Praise the Lord
Ok back to Luke 1:48-
from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. Now all of you that says the woman is still under the curse of that law what are you going to do with this scripture? Tell me how she can be cursed and blessed at the same time.
It said that he blessed her which means to respect, sanctify, praise. That does not look like any curse seed to me looks to me like a holy seed.
Vs.-51- He hath shewed strength with his arm;[ in other words this woman was to his arm to bring forth and birth a man child which was Jesus who was to be his right hand. In other words she was to be his help meet.]
ISAIAH-40:10-11- Behold, the Lord GOD will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
040:011 -He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.
Who was he talking about here when he said his arm will rule for him? It had to be the woman because he said that they were with young.
Jeremiah-31-22- How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.[ see what was happening over in Luke with Mary the LORD was ushering in a new move of God. The word compass hear means to lead. Need I Say anymore about the woman?
Jer 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.
Compass, from Jer. 31: 22 –05437 (Strongs): 1) to turn, turn about or around or aside or back or towards, go about or around, surround, encircle, change direction 1a1) to turn, turn about, be brought round, change 1a2) to march or walk around, go partly around, circle about, skirt, make a round, make a circuit, go about to, surround, encompass ; 1c) (Piel) to turn about, change, transform ; 1d1) to encompass, surround
1e1) to turn, cause to turn, turn back, reverse, bring over, turn into, bring round
Help: #05826 (Strongs): to surround, i.e. protect or aid, Help, succour. primitive root; TWOT – 1598;
To hedge about, i.e. protect; defend.
Meet: Strongs 05826: ) help, succour
Succourer: 4368 // prostativ // prostatis // pros-tat’-is // AV – succourer 1; 1 1) a woman set over others 2) a female guardian, protectress, patroness, caring for the affairs of others and aiding them with her resources
from a derivative of 4291 ; n f :4291 // proisyhmi // proistemi // pro-is’-tay-mee // from 4253 and 2476 ; TDNT – 6:700,*; v AV – rule 5, maintain 2, be over 1; 8 ) to set or place before 4253 // pro // pro // pro // AV – before 44, above 2, above … 1) before
1a) to set over ; 1b) to be over, to superintend, preside over 1c) to be a protector or guardian ; 1c1) to give aid 1d) to care for, give attention to
2476 :a prolonged form of a primary // staw // stao // stah’-o // (of the same meaning, and used for it in certain tenses); TDNT – 7:638,1082; v AV – stand 116, set 11, establish 5, stand still 4, stand by 3, misc 17, vr stand 2; 158 1) to cause or make to stand, to place, put, set 1a) to bid to stand by, [set up] 1a1) in the presence of others, in the midst, before judges, before members of the Sanhedrin; 1a2) to place ;1b) to make firm, fix establish 1b1) to cause a person or a thing to keep his or its place 1b2) to stand, be kept intact (of family, a kingdom), to escape in safety ; 1b3) to establish a thing, cause it to stand 1b31) to uphold or sustain the authority or force of anything 1c) to set or place in a balance ; 1c1) to weigh: money to one (because in very early times before the introduction of coinage, the metals used to be weighed) 2) to stand ; 2a) to stand by or near ; 2a1) to stop, stand still, to stand immovable, stand firm 2a1a) of the foundation of a building ; 2b) to stand ; 2b1) continue safe and sound, stand unharmed, to stand ready or prepared ; 2b2) to be of a steadfast mind ; 2b3) of quality, one who does not hesitate, does not waiver
Now that is a lot of stuff from Strong’s dictionary of Scripture words. But it proves without a doubt that COMPASS, HELP, (FROM Genesis 2, and meet, FROM Genesis 2, and succourer, from Romans 16:2, (concerning Phoebe), all mean the very same thing. You may have trouble following what I have pasted here, but if you run the same references in a Strongs, you will see that compass, help, (as in help meet) and meet, (as in help meet) and succour, (which is one of the meanings of help meet and compass, then it refers to Phoebe, all have the very same meaning!
Notice that one meaning which is used with each of these words is to surround, to establish, or help to stand, to uphold and to be above, to make firm, to rule, fix establish or to cause a person or a thing to keep his or its place. It means to be set over or before. To be a protector or guardian. Succourer means a woman set over others. Notice one meaning of ‘compass’ is to reverse and to transform and to turn back.
Now all of this is a powerful and hidden truth, which the world has totally missed. Therefore the woman’s place or right in God and life, has been totally destroyed by wicked men with false teachings. The purpose for Eve has been totally lied against and told in error.
A woman shall compass a men. God said, Jer 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.
Who was God speaking to here? I know you will probably not see this, but he was speaking to Adam. Adam was the king or head over the earth’s kingdom. So the earth and all its people, together, is considered a FEMALE to God. God’s kingdom, of Spirit, is the male. Man’s kingdom, of flesh, is the female. A kingdom on earth is called a woman. God is speaking here to Adam and his kingdom. He said how long will you go about, oh you backsliding daughter? The LORD hath created a NEW THING in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.
Now why is this connected with the backsliding daughter, Babylon, or Israel? Why would God say, how long will you go about, oh you backslider? I have made a new thing, so now there is no reason for you to continue with your backsliding. What is the new thing? A HELP MEET. A woman set over this backsliding man, to cause him to turn back to God, to reverse his actions, to be reconciled to God. She was to aid him, succour him, protect him and transform him. All of this is part of the meaning of COMPASS, HELP MEET, AND SUCCOUR.
Was Adam glad to have this helpmeet? Not one single bit. Adam wanted no part of being reconciled to God, for he had set his heart as the heart of God. He had said, I am God. I sit in the seat of God. But God had said to him, you are just a man. So, in his love for Adam, God made him a help meet, to help and try to turn Adam back to God. When God said, It is not good that the man should be alone, He was speaking of the fact that Adam had already put iniquity in his heart, by saying, I am God.
Notice that not one word is mentioned in any of these meanings of these words, as to meaning something for Adam’s pleasure, or sex, or someone to just help him do his work. It had not one thing to do with any of those carnal things. Eve’s creation was solely for a spiritual purpose. But Adam rejected her and this means of reconciliation to God. So, what was the result of this? Some very astonishing things are revealed in Scripture, which is hidden to the carnal mind. Only a Spiritual mind will ever glean the secrets of God from Scripture. So let’s take a deeper look into this chapter in Jeremiah.
Jer 31:1 At the same time, saith the LORD, will I be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:2 Thus saith the LORD, The people which were left of the sword found grace in the wilderness; even Israel, when I went to cause him to rest.
Arriving at knowledge of what went on in the lives of Adam and Eve and their children, from many different Scriptures, reveals that Adam and Cain ruled over that world in harshness and evil. They brought that entire society into bondage and ruled over them with an iron hand, the LAW. They killed any and all who rebelled against their rule and those who refused to worship them. Adam coveted God’s place as the one to be worshipped. He set up worship, church style, in honour to Adam and Cain. He set up holidays as worship to himself and Cain. That is exactly where all this Xmess and Easter junk came from.
They martyred many of those saints who followed Eve and Abel, in worshipping the true and living God. The above verse refers back to those who escaped from their slaughter. These came into Grace and were set free from that bondage of LAW. They found grace in the wilderness which God brought them into.
Jer 31:3 The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. Jer 31:4 Again I will build thee, and thou shalt be built, O virgin of Israel: thou shalt again be adorned with thy tabrets, and shalt go forth in the dances of them that make merry.
Since Eve is the one who turned back to serving the true and Living God, she is now the head over the kingdom of God’s people. It is Eve who is being spoken to in these two verses. Notice the words, ‘of old’. This refers back to the other side of the flood. So this woman, as representative of God’s kingdom on earth, was the one God appeared to and said, I have loved thee with an everlasting love, therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. What is He speaking of when he said, I will again build you and you shall be built, O virgin of Israel?
Adam is not the virgin, for he had become totally rebellious to God. Eve is the virgin to God. She is the one God loved with this everlasting love. It is HER seed, which destroyed that head of the serpent, Adam. What is he referring to when he said you shall again be adorned with thy TABRETS? You must find the answer to these things in Scripture. So here is the interpreting Scripture: Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Yes, it was the kingdom of Adam which had the fine instruments prepared in him. See that this anointed cherub had been in the Garden of Eden and was perfect in all his ways from the day he was CREATED until iniquity was found in him. This is Adam. So it was to Adam’s kingdom, under the spiritual leadership of Eve, that God spoke the above prophecy to. He told her, You will again be adorned as you were at the beginning of your glory. It is speaking of the glorified Kingdom of Christ, which is to be again back in the original glory, of God’s likeness.
Jer 31:8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither. Jer 31:9 They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.
Who is the one which is said to bear children to God? It is Eve. She is the one who was saved in childbearing. It is spiritual childbearing, not natural childbirth. She is the one who is the MOTHER of all living. It is her children, the spiritual people. They are the ones who came with weeping and supplications in repentance to God. It is not the man’s or the serpents seed. It is the woman’s seed who repented and found grace in the wilderness. They are the ones who will be built again and adorned with the original glory of sons of God. Notice that he caused them to walk by the rivers of waters, in a straight way. This is the only way to eternal life. It is those waters of the River of God. It shall be in you, a River of water of life.
Jer 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock. 31:11 For the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he. 31:12 Therefore they shall come and sing in the height of Zion, and shall flow together to the goodness of the LORD, for wheat, and for wine, and for oil, and for the young of the flock and of the herd: and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all. Jer 31:13 Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, both young men and old together: for I will turn their mourning into joy, and will comfort them, and make them rejoice from their sorrow.
God is speaking here of the kingdom over which Abel and Eve ministered. They are God’s firstborn. He uses Ephraim as a type of this. Most of the time, the person used in any passage of Scripture is only a representative of the deeper meaning hidden here. This time it is the kingdom of Grace, under Abel and Eve. They were certainly God’s firstborn. Who were they redeemed from? Adam and Cain. Adam and Cain were the ones who were stronger than Abel and Eve. They were both murdered for their stand against Adamism.
The next verse speaks of the glory of this Grace kingdom, when it is altogether at the end of the world. All of the children of God, from Eve on down, will be together in this glory and will never have to sorrow any more. What was their great sorrow? It was the lose of their family and the burdens which were placed upon them and their great tribulation. They rejoice in the dance.
This was fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost and since then, to those who are filled with the Holy Ghost. We rejoice in the holy dance of the Spirit. God turned their mourning into joy. It is speaking of the tribulation of all the saints of God, beginning with the murder of Abel and the horrible persecutions of Eve and her righteous children.
Jer 31:15 Thus saith the LORD; A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation, and bitter weeping; Rahel weeping for her children refused to be comforted for her children, because they were not. 31:16 Thus saith the LORD; Refrain thy voice from weeping, and thine eyes from tears: for thy work shall be rewarded, saith the LORD; and they shall come again from the land of the enemy. 31:17 And there is hope in thine end, saith the LORD, that thy children shall come again to their own border.
I know the above verses apply to the slaughter of the babies, at the time of the birth of Jesus, but it has a deeper meaning, which I have just seen recently. The first application of this scripture refers to the slaughter of Eve’s children. Yes, this is the deep revelation hidden here. All of the people who followed Eve and her righteous children were murdered by those who followed Adam and Cain. This is revealed by the murder of Abel.
But that is just a sampling bit of information, just as the acts of the Apostles is only a sampling of what all that early church accomplished. The world could not hold the books, if everything had been told. In Scripture, we are only given a sampling of all that happened. This is the very reason that at the time of the flood, there was only one righteous man left from all the innumerable host of people who had lived from Adam and Eve. Only one family was left on this earth which was serving the true God.
The others who followed God had been murdered by Adam and his evil followers. The repeat of this has been demonstrated all down through the ages, as Satan sent his evil workers to murder God’s children. Even right now, only a very few could be found who are serving the true God in righteousness. The true people of God are being murdered all over this world. So, this is to Eve. It is Eve weeping for her children who were murdered as was Abel. But see, God told her to refrain thy voice from weeping for thy work shall be rewarded and your children will come again from the land of the enemy back to their own border.
All of God’s children, from Eve and Abel on down, will be brought back into the glory with which God had first endowed them. They will be resurrected back to the image and glory of God, to live eternally, with our holy Mother of all living, Eve! Praise God for revealing this woman’s true glory and love.
Jer 31:18 I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the LORD my God. Jer 31:19 Surely after that I was turned, I repented; and after that I was instructed, I smote upon my thigh: I was ashamed, yea, even confounded, because I did bear the reproach of my youth.
If you doubt that this is speaking of the kingdom of Adam, on the other side of the flood, read the above verses. “I was ashamed and confounded, because I did bear the REPROACH of my YOUTH.”
Youth of man, always refers back to the other side of the flood. This is one of the secret keys to understanding the depth of Scripture. See this is about the ones in Adam’s kingdom, who heeded the message of Eve and Abel, then Seth, and repented of their sins and turned back to God.
Then they were murdered by the evil followers of Adam, who refused to repent. See, it said, AFTER I was INSTRUCTED. Who instructed them? It was Eve, Abel, and Seth. Her message is revealed all through Scripture. It has just been hidden under false teachings. But now God is revealing this great woman’s ministry and prophecies.
Jer 31:20 Is Ephraim my dear son? is he a pleasant child? for since I spake against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the LORD.
Again, I remind you that Ephraim here, represents the kingdom of Adam. What is God speaking about, “since I spake against him?” He is speaking about the time He said, the end of all flesh is come before me. God had spoken of destroying ALL OF MANKIND. But since God loved mankind so much, his ‘bowels’ was troubled for him. God said I will surely have mercy upon him. This is how and why God saved Noah and his family. He saw the coming of Jesus and Grace and mercy was extended to MAN, or Ephraim.
Jer 31:21 Set thee up waymarks, make thee high heaps: set thine heart toward the highway, even the way which thou wentest: turn again, O virgin of Israel, turn again to these thy cities.
Here God is again pleading with the ones who are virgins to God, to turn from sin and back to God and righteousness. THEN.. He said: Jer 31:22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man.
God speaks here of the coming of Jesus Christ. He is also speaking of bringing again the purpose for Eve. He is showing that the work of Eve will yet be accomplished and she will turn Man back to God. Jesus set this in motion with the anointing of Mary to carry the message of the resurrection to his disciples.
But it was already set in motion by Mary and Elizabeth and the prophecies they gave out. It was these women who had borne and raised those great men of God, Jesus and John. They fulfilled the role of Eve in turning men back to God and truth. A woman did this. She compassed the man and succoured him and brought him back into fellowship with his God.
This is fully manifested in the great lady minister, Phoebe, and the woman at the well. This woman of God was highly recommended by the great apostle, Paul. So let no one try to tear her work down. It is part of the Written Word of God. So be very careful of what you say against her and all the other women of God, who became true help meets.
Did you realize that ‘help meet’ is only mentioned twice in all the Word of God? Eve is the only person in all God’s word said to be a help meet. So if anyone gets reconciled to God, it has to come through this women, EVE. It will be through the ministry she has already performed.
Without Eve, not one single human being would exist today. If she had not turned enough people back to the true God, before that flood, Noah would not have known the truth and would have been destroyed also! Oh, I know this will be much disputed. But I know that God has revealed it in his word. So, backbite this truth all you wish. It will only damn your soul, as was all those in the flood.
Jer 31:23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; As yet they shall use this speech in the land of Judah and in the cities thereof, when I shall bring again their captivity; The LORD bless thee, O habitation of justice, and mountain of holiness.
God is speaking here of the salvation which came by Jesus. This is when he returned their captivity and set the captives free. It included everyone who repented on the other side of the flood. That kingdom, under Eve, is that habitation of justice and the mountain, or nation of holiness. This is why the last time Eve is named in Scripture, she is shown to be the true example of women of God, living in holiness and sobriety, bearing children to God.
Jer 31:24 And there shall dwell in Judah itself, and in all the cities thereof together, husbandmen, and they that go forth with flocks. Jer 31:25 For I have satiated the weary soul, and I have replenished every sorrowful soul.
This is prophecy of the NT Church with her ministers feeding the flock of God. He has satisfied the ones who were sorrowful for their sins and repented.
Jer 31:26 Upon this I awaked, and beheld; and my sleep was sweet unto me.
That is the resurrection. Awake, in Scripture, shows resurrection. Jesus awaked. Eve Awaked and in them all of the true Christians awake and their sleep, (in Jesus) was sweet, as they rested in the promise to be raised back to eternal life.
So 7:9 And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved, that goeth down sweetly, causing the lips of those that are asleep to speak.
The roof of his mouth is like the best wine, going down sweetly and causing the lips of those who are asleep in Jesus to awake and speak. Their rest or sleep was sweet, for they rested in hope that he who promised would keep that promise and bring them back to their own border again.
This was taken from the above message. 2a1) to stop, stand still, to stand immovable, stand firm 2a1a) of the foundation of a building ; 2b) to stand ; 2b1) continue safe and sound, stand unharmed, to stand ready or prepared ; 2b2) to be of a steadfast mind ; 2b3) of quality, one who does not hesitate, does not waiverDo you know what I see from this meaning of the word Succourer?From what I am seeing is that Phobe was teaching the same thing as the apostles taught and also that Eve was doing the same and neither could be stopped and that they both were immovable and standing firm and ready and prepared to teach this gospel and they both did not waiver. They did not waiver, because they were on the right foundation and that foundati0on wasEphesians 22:20 – And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;This was the foundation from the beginning.For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. That had to be the foundation from the beginning And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:This was the fondation that was laid in the beginning and I believe that this is what Eve, Able and Seth were teaching.For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.This has been going on since the beginning and they were suffering there as the apostles were for teaching this great gospel.Great message Joie.
You are so right, Isaiah. And thanks a lot for this great addition of understanding on this wonderful, and hidden secret.
I also saw the thing of her being steadfast and unmovable or not waivering last night, when I read the message agt 2:am.
I thought of how James said not to waiver, for if one waivers he is like the restless waves which can never rest.
Jesus gives us rest to our souls, no matter what we may be suffering on the surface.
This is exactly how Eve and Abel were living. They had unwaivering faith in the Beginning, which is the true foundation, Jesus Christ.
Yes, Larry. They were preaching the true foundation, Jesus Christ. Adam and Cain had turned FROM the true foundation, and set up a rotten foundation of sand, which was saying that Adam was God and Cain was his prophet.
Guess what? God just gave me that part about Cain being his prophet right now as I write.
Then he showed me that is exactly why he showed this thing when he set Moses up as God to Pharaoh and Aaron as Moses’ prophet.
It shows what Adam did as he said, I am God. He then set Cain up as his prophet. Cain was going out and seeking those who refused this ‘new god’ and killing them.
My, such glory, as we dig deeper and deeper into God’s Holy Word.
From: Freeborn551Sent: 6/7/2008 8:19 PMSometimes the things which God does in my life amaze me and astonish me. This is one of them. For a few weeks or days, I have felt I should write a message on, A woman shall compass a man. A message was in my mind about this subject, but as I had so much else going on, I did not try to write anything. As I have been studying on those men before and after the flood for two days, I kept seeing something. I kept seeing a deeper thing on something God revealed to me a good while ago. That all flesh is to God as FEMALE. The Spirit is as MALE. Now I know this is true spiritual revelation and has to be used properly to rightly interpret God’s Word. But since man has totally ignored studing God’s Word, in their ministries, they have gotten nothing deep to teach anyone. So they all remain in ignorance and darkness. Now as I was studying on this thing of passing over the flood, I was seeing that the first kingdom, Adam’s kingdom, on that other side of the flood, being first created by God, being first made to last forever, were considered, both women and men, as ONE, were consided to be a MALE kingdom, or one with the life giving power. (their children inherited this ability to live long lives.) Now I can see clearly that the kingdom which came up on this side of the flood was then, a FEMALE kingdom. Both men and women, as ONE, are considered to be FLESH, OR FEMALE TO GOD. (They were now in a body of dust or this frail form, we are now in and cannot live for long years.) They are without a Spirit or eternal life. They must now be GIVEN a seed of LIFE, in order to GROW A SPIRITUL CHILD IN THEIR SPIRITUAL WOMB. Even Jesus Christ was of this sort. See then, that even the men, must be a ‘woman with child’, in order to ever produce a son of God, and thereby, have ETERNAL LIFE. So they are FEMALE, to God.Therefore, this entire kingdom of human flesh is a FEMALE KINGDOM. Jesus Christ was part of this female kingdom. I know some folks really fell out with me over this revelation, but it is CERTAIN. This is such revelation, that it needs to be a new message of its own. I shall prepare it later, but for now, I am putting it here, because I want to send this message back to the top. I want to put these words down as I can remember them right now. I had forgotten that I had already written a message, called, A Woman shall Compass a man.Can you imagine that? Shows God wanted me to deal with this message some more. Yes, I had forgotten this message, completely, and felt I should write one about this very thing. Just now, as I came to my table where I have my message stacked, THIS MESSAGE WAS ON THE VERY TOP. I looked down at it and was astonished at it. So I sat down and read it. I had forgotten its contents completely. I felt it would help me in the one I am working on now, After the flood. It helps prove what I was seeing …that the kingdom we are in now, flesh, is the FEMALE kingdom. that is totally spiritually correct. I have been thinking a long time that those people in the Ark somehow are the fulfillment of God putting Adam to sleep and taking a ‘rib’ out of him, closing up the FLESH instead, and making a WOMAN. This proves it. He took a ‘rib’ out of that MALE kingdom, and made a FEMALE kingdom. I know almost no one will be able to see this. But it is for the spiritual minded. That is why the longevity of that first kingdom was so cut back in those born after the flood. They had lost that original life power. When I finish the one I am on now, you can see proof of this. But for now, study this message again and ask for spiritual revelation. JO
Psalm 119….know that David did not write his auto-biography. He wrote what God told him to write; not about himself. but it is someone’s words….not as it looks, not David:
2 I remembered thy judgments of old, O Lord; and have comforted myself. Who could remember God’s JUDGMENTS OF OLD?
59 I thought on my ways, and turned my feet unto thy testimonies. (someone is repenting)
61 The bands of the wicked have robbed me: but I have not forgotten thy law.
67 Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word.
this is not Jesus. but it is a very important person in the works of God.
and there is much more. this chapter is full of it.
‘she’ cries out to God, with tears and all her heart…over and over…and this is how to move God. He came to her rescue and great things awaited her.
Psalms 25 is a real good one. I see where she said remember not my transgression many times and also where God forgave her. There is so much in Psalms about her.
Psalm 118: 17, 18. also 144: 7, 9
Ps. 18: 19 ,,, this chapter clearly describes the FLOOD, and how this one prayed for deliverance and was delivered,,,then this…19 He brought me forth also into a large place; he delivered me, because he delighted in me……what do you think this large place is….coming after this mighty flood that shook the foundations of the earth? who is this that was in that flood and came out of it? that was clearly being very mistreated before that flood?
41 They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the Lord, but he answered them not…I think this speaks of those who died in that flood.
48 He delivereth me from mine enemies: yea, thou liftest me up above those that rise up against me: thou hast delivered me from the violent man…..here she speaks of being delivered from THE VIOLENT MAN. this violent man is Adam.
cp 31: 8 And hast not shut me up into the hand of the enemy: thou hast set my feet in a large room……here again she speaks of this LARGE ROOM.cp 31: 8 And hast not shut me up into the hand of the enemy: thou hast set my feet in a large room……here again she speaks of this LARGE ROOM.
cp 32: 5 I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the Lord; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.
6 For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou mayest be found: surely in the floods of great waters they shall not come nigh unto him…..too much in here that connects her with that flood.
Romans 5: 12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
When will the world stop adding to God’s word, and believe what He said? He said by one MAN, sin entered this world. It never says by on woman. Yet this is what most people believe and say.
17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
Someone show me a verse proving that God blamed Eve
1Cor 15: 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
so oo man had the power of death! so, man is satan. proven. 34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
1Cor 15: 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
so oo man had the power of death! so, man is satan. proven. 34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
read Ruth 3 and 4. I think this is showing the marriage between Noah and Eve….and has a lot to do with why. I had shut down then read all of this and came back on…for I think this is showing what happened between Noah and Eve.
I see it more clearly now. came back on to show you this. that PROMISE was to EVE that HER seed would bruise the head of that old serpent. when she had Seth, she said, God has given me ANOTHER seed, in place of Abel, whom Cain slew. Now, a flood is coming that will wipe out all HER SEED. Now she is the only person left in existence that God made with his very hands. this is a special thing that no one else can EVER FULFILL. So in order for that PROMISE to be fulfilled, that it will be HER SEED that does this DELIVERANCE, she must produce another SEED FROM HER OWN BODY. Adam is dead. all the others are fixing to die except NOAH.
Noah alone cannot produce another SEED OF EVE…not even with another woman. they both know this. God just gave me this. I KNOW HE DID. and it is right…. see, Psalm 142, (and this is what put me onto this). .. she said, ‘I looked on my right hand, and beheld, but there was no man that would KNOW ME. this knowing means to bring forth children.. it is the way….refuge failed me; no man cared for my soul…….see, she was looking to save that SEED OF HERS, AND FOUND NO MAN TO DO HIS PART. It is the same thing that went on with Ruth and Boaz. …but Noah knew these things also…so he, as did Boaz, was willing to take Eve for a wife and raise up that SEED OF HERS THAT WAS NEEDED TO SAVE THIS WORLD. I am telling you, this is too glorious for words. a revelation that only God himself could have revealed to me or anyone else, for that matter. ..
Gen 5, says, This is the Book of the Generations of Adam. this continues till Mat. 1….then it says this is the Book of the generations of Christ…..now this Christ is the SEED OF THIS WOMAN…..SO EVE HAD TO PRODUCE ANOTHER LINE OF …HER SEED….TO GET TO THIS CHRIST……..hope some of you can see this glorious revelation.
something else that God just showed me….this thing was so important to that old people, that Lots two daughters got him drunk and went with their own father to SAVE SEED FROM THEIR FATHER.. now that helps prove the importance of saving the right SEED.
what did she mean, refuge failed me? what refuge did she mean? she is speaking of finding someone who could help her produce another line of HER SEED.
When Eve looked on her RIGHT hand, to find a man who would know her so she could produce another promised SEED to save this world, it means she looked for a person who served the true God. Right hand shows the SHEEP or folks of God. Left hand shows satan’s folks. So she was desperately looking for another SEED, who could and would save this world from destruction. She found this man in Noah. great revelation….but fools hate knowledge, so said God.
I have often wondered why Noah waited so long to have children…if he did…perhaps he had some that we are not told about….but don’t know for never found it in Scripture..but was thinking, just me here,,,perhaps he was waiting for Eve to be released out of her prison.I have often wondered why Noah waited so long to have children…if he did…perhaps he had some that we are not told about….but don’t know for never found it in Scripture..but was thinking, just me here,,,perhaps he was waiting for Eve to be released out of her prison.
Lot’s daughters were DESPERATE to save seed of their Father, for they knew all the rest were dead. they took drastic action to save this seed. the carnal minded try to look at what they did as sin….but God did not see it this way….they were into saving a certain seed line. This is the very thing Eve was the most concerned with…saving and getting to that promised SEED that would bruise the head of that wicked serpent and save this world. She is the most precious one and yet she is hated and slandered by the IGNORANT all the time. She suffered so much and cried out to God continuously for deliverance. She was more concerned with saving this Seed line than her own life.
~~ Thy Mother ~~ In the following Scripture, Jacob represents Jesus, in the types of the OT. Everything which is told about in the lives of those who lived in the OT, is either showing and revealing things about Jesus or Adam, or Eve. They are revealed all through the OT. God has to show you how to discern this. But many people miss ever seeing the deep truths about these three important people, because they do not receive the revelation or know how to see the types and shadows of the OT. Gen 27:6 And Rebekah spake unto Jacob her son, saying, Behold, I heard thy father speak unto Esau thy brother, saying, Ge 27:7 Bring me venison, and make me savoury meat, that I may eat, and bless thee before the LORD before my death.Ge 27:8 Now therefore, my son, obey my voice according to that which I command thee.Ge 27:9 Go now to the flock, and fetch me from thence two good kids of the goats; and I will make them savoury meat for thy father, such as he loveth: Ge 27:10 And thou shalt bring it to thy father, that he may eat, and that he may bless thee before his death. Esau represents Adam, as he is the firstborn. Jacob represents Jesus, as he is the second born. Esau, being a hairy man, shows that man, without God, in this world, is as a beast. I do not mean an animal, here, but a beast, according to Scripture. It shows the first-man, Adam, which is human beings.Their being twins, having both the same Mother and Father, being born together, shows that within the same spiritual ‘mother’, (our earthly lives), is both a son of man and a son of God. The Son of God is the inner man, or the one who has the spirit of God inside. It is our spiritual, ‘manchild’ or the Christ, in us. The fact that Isaac loved Esau and called him his son shows that the first-man, Adam, loved the earthly things and not the spiritual things. Rebekaha’s loving Jacob more, and calling him her son, shows that Eve, the spiritual Mother of us all, and the heavenly Jerusalem, loves the spiritual things. Isaac wanted to give the blessing to his firstborn, Esau, showing that Adam wanted to cleave to the earthly things. Being the firstborn, shows Adam, the first or earthly man. But Rebekah desired for Jacob to have the blessing. This shows that Eve, the Mother of us all, wanted her children to have the blessings of God. Her children are the children of FAITH. Jesus Christ is HERSEED. God promised Eve, that HER SEED would bruise the head of that old serpent. This is prophecy of Jesus Christ. So Jesus is the spiritual SEED of Eve. Her children are the ones who served the true God and not that old serpent, Adam, which is earthly or fleshly. It is the DUST which is the serpent’s MEAT. Esau had already sold his birthright to Jacob, for a pot of stew, showing that Adam cast away his birthright, of being God’s first son, to cling to the earthly, dust things or riches and power to rule over others. Since Jacob wanted the birthright, he also stood in line to have the blessing. It is spiritual. God fully intended to give the spiritual things to his Second Son, Jesus Christ. So all of this is showing it in the types and shadows.Every truth is typed in the OT. Everything must be proven by those OT types, else you have no proof. Ge 27:11 And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man: Ge 27:12 My father peradventure will feel me, and I shall seem to him as a deceiver; and I shall bring a curse upon me, and not a blessing. Ge 27:13 And his mother said unto him, Upon me be thy curse, my son: only obey my voice, and go fetch me them. Here Rebekah is typing Eve, as she instructed her ‘children’, those of faith, in how to receive the blessings from God. She was willing to receive the curse which might befall any of them. This is one of the main reasons why Eve is so hated, lied about, and slandered, even to our day. Jacob shows the true Christian, as he obeyed his Mother, who is the Mother of us all. She is the Mother of the FAITH CHILDREN OF GOD. Adam did not ‘father’ any faithful children of God. His ‘children’ are those who live in the flesh, and eat of the dust, or earthly things, instead of spiritual things. Ge 27:14 And he went, and fetched, and brought them to his mother: and his mother made savoury meat, such as his father loved.Ge 27:15 And Rebekah took goodly raiment of her eldest son Esau, which were with her in the house, and put them upon Jacob her younger son:Ge 27:16 And she put the skins of the kids of the goats upon his hands, and upon the smooth of his neck:Ge 27:17 And she gave the savoury meat and the bread, which she had prepared, into the hand of her son Jacob. Those two kids represent the same thing which the two goats represented, in the law of Moses. One goat had the sins placed upon his head, and was driven out into the wilderness, to wonder alone forever. The other goat was slain and offered to God. They both show Jesus, as he was slain to take away our sins. The other goat, the scapegoat, carried the sins away. Thus she was showing that Eve understood these spiritual things and taught them to her ‘children’, which were the Faith Children of God.Then Rebekah made savory meat and bread, such as the father liked. This is showing that Eve is the one who had the TRUTH to preach to this world. She gave out the spiritual food, which God loves. She made the spiritual ‘flesh’ which was pleasing to God, the Father and gave it to her Son, which represents Jesus Christ. Thus, as Jesus preached the true ‘flesh’, or spiritual meat and bread, he was showing that he received this from his spiritual Mother, Eve. He is HER SEED. Very few people wish to acknowledge this great truth. But it is verified in all of God’s word. It was HER SEED, not his seed, which bruised the head of that old serpent. Jacob, or Jesus, was not taking meat and bread of HIS OWN MAKING to his Father, as Esau did. Jacob relied solely upon his MOTHER to get this blessing for him. He obeyed HER, and thus received the blessing, which was passed down through the FAITH SEED, into Jesus Christ. Esau went to his ‘father’ or God, in the types, carrying his own self works. Jacob went, carrying nothing of his own doings, relying solely upon his Spiritual Mother. Esau shows all who live in the flesh and offer to God their own earthly works, such as ‘church’, preachers, or other earthly works. Jacob represents those who go to God, resting solely upon the Spiritual works of Jesus Christ, our spiritual Mother/Father. When Rebekah took the goodly raiment of the eldest son, Esau, and put it upon Jacob, the younger, this shows that Jesus Christ also had the same human flesh upon him, that Adam had. He was just as fully human as any other human being. That is what this shows. He goes to his Father, clothed in Esau’s clothing! Mary was the instrument which was used here, as Eve, to put this humanity upon this second son of God.When she put the goats skin on Jacob’s hands and neck, this shows that Jesus was to be clothed in the sacrifices of our sins and goes to God, in his humanity. He took upon himself our sins, thus the goat’s skin. Ge 27:18 And he came unto his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I; who art thou, my son?Ge 27:19 And Jacob said unto his father, I am Esau thy firstborn; I have done according as thou badest me: arise, I pray thee, sit and eat of my venison, that thy soul may bless me. Ge 27:20 And Isaac said unto his son, How is it that thou hast found it so quickly, my son? And he said, Because the LORD thy God brought it to me. Here Jesus is going to the Father, using nothing but the first-man, Adam, human life that he has. He is not going to God claiming to be god, as Adam tried to do. He simply claims to be of the firstborn, humanity. He did not lift himself up as a god. He did not say to God, I am God, I sit in the seat of God, as Adam had claimed. He made no higher claim than being of the firstborn, humanity. Those who teach that Jesus claimed to be god, or was god, are lying against Jesus and cannot find the true types in the OT for such a thing. We do not see where Adam ever claimed Abel to be his son. It was Eve. She is the one who said, God has given MEanother SEED, in place of ABEL, WHOM CAIN SLEW.(Cain’s killing Abel, showed here, that humanity would kill Jesus, trying to do away with that spiritual SEED, which would take away HIS DOMINION.) What takes place after this occurred with Jacob? Esau immediately sets out to SLEY JACOB. He had that murdering spirit in him. But Eve, the Mother, saved him. This is showing that Eve’s teaching her children of the true FAITH, saves Jesus Christ from eternal death. Seth’s replacing Abel, shows that the resurrected Christ, replaces, and saves the earthly Jesus. Thus they are joined TOGETHER into one Son of God, coming from the same spiritual MOTHER. Next, Jacob tells the father, I have done as you bade me. This is Jesus, in prophecy, saying I did always that things which pleased my Father, so now, arise, eat of the FOOD I HAVE PREPARED FOR YOU. Eat of my offering. Bless me. Then he says, God brought this to me. Thus Jesus gives God the glory, all the way. This is truly SO BEAUTIFUL. Ge 27:21 And Isaac said unto Jacob, Come near, I pray thee, that I may feel thee, my son, whether thou be my very son Esau or not. Ge 27:22 And Jacob went near unto Isaac his father; and he felt him, and said, The voice is Jacob’s voice, but the hands are the hands of Esau. The above is truly beautiful. It is God showing that the voice is Jesus, but he is in human flesh. The hands are the hands, (flesh) of Esau, the firstborn, or first-man, Adam. Thus the MESSAGE of Jesus was delivered in a human person. Ge 27:23 And he discerned him not, because his hands were hairy, as his brother Esau’s hands: so he blessed him. Ge 27:24 And he said, Art thou my very son Esau? And he said, I am. Ge 27:25 And he said, Bring it near to me, and I will eat of my son’s venison, that my soul may bless thee. And he brought it near to him, and he did eat: and he brought him wine, and he drank. So here, we see that God ate of the food which Jesus brought to him, or accepted his offering. He said did not discern him, showing that men cannot discern the truth of Jesus, because of his humanity. This also shows that the message which Jesus brought the world is the very same message which Eve, Abel, and Seth all preached to this world. They all received it from the Mother, Eve. This is proof that Eve taught the world the entire word of God, and it is the very same message which Jesus taught. Again, he asks, are you my very son, Esau. Again Jesus verifies, Yes, I am of the firstborn, I am human. He gave the father food and wine to drink. Thus Jesus delivered the entire spiritual message, which pleased his Father, and thus, he received the full blessing of God. Ge 27:26 And his father Isaac said unto him, Come near now, and kiss me, my son. The come near and kiss me, shows that Jesus came near to God and worshipped him. The kiss shows worship. He walked always, close to God. Ge 27:27 And he came near, and kissed him: and he smelled the smell of his raiment, and blessed him, and said, See, the smell of my son is as the smell of a field which the LORD hath blessed:God saw this was a full human man, who had pleased God in all things. Here he acknowledges that this one is of the earth, earthly, but was the blessed of the Lord. Thank you, precious Lord Jesus, for revealing this great message to me. How I love your beautiful WORD. Ge 27:28 Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine:Ge 27:29 Let people serve thee, and nations bow down to thee: be lord over thy brethren, and let thy mother’s sons bow down to thee: cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee. God now gives to Jesus all the dew of heaven, or heavens fullest blessings, AND the fatness of the earth, or all that the earth has to offer to the sons of God. Plenty of corn and wine, shows the fullness of the revelation of the Word of God, the FOOD OF GOD. It was all given to Jesus. Now the depth of the blessing: let people SERVE THEE…. The elder shall serve the younger…and nations will bow down to thee……every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God, the Father. Be LORD over thy brethren. God has made this same Jesus to be BOTH Lord and Christ.Cursed be everyone that curses you, and blessed be all that bless thee. This is the promise given to Abraham for HIS SEED, WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST. It came first through Jacob, and then on down to Jesus Christ, and then into us, who are the children of FAITH. Now for the depth of this revelation: let THY MOTHER’S SONS BOWN DOWN TO THEE.Here, God takes it all the way back to the MOTHER OF US ALL, EVE. Let all of Eve’s children bow down to thee. So, all who bow and worship JESUS CHRIST are of this Godly woman’s seed. We are the Seed of Eve. She is the MOTHER OF US ALL. Jesus Christ is HER SEED, WHICH IS THE BLESSED SEED OF THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. This is the seed which bruises the head of that old serpent! By: Jo Smith ~~ Sept. 21, 2008
Freeborn,This is truly a beautiful meassage. Now you see what I was trying to say about the women in scripture. I just have not figured it all out yet. I know that Rebekaha was carrying the seed of the women. And so was Ruth. If you would start with Eve and work your way through the down to Mary. Noah carrried the seed of the women to the other side. Abraham & Sarah carried the seed. David carried the seed. You have seen what I saw whne I was reading it. But you brought it out. Thank-you once again for your lovely message. It is time to go to work.Tweety
And I thank you, Tweety, for the good words and your interest in these spiritual matters. It is true, all these people carried the Seed of the Woman, for that is the Seed of Faith. The man’s seed is the natural, carnal, serpent seed. So we all, men and women, must come into the Woman’s seed to have eternal life. Jesus Christ is HER SEED. Yet SHE is so lied about and put down by most people!
~~ Thy Mother, part two ~~
I want to show you here, another type, in Jacob’s life, showing the truth about our Mother, Eve.
Gen 28:1 And Isaac called Jacob, and blessed him, and charged him, and said unto him, Thou shalt not take a wife of the daughters of Canaan.
Ge 28:2 Arise, go to Padanaram, to the house of Bethuel thy mother’s father; and take thee a wife from thence of the daughters of Laban thy mother’s brother.
Ge 28:3 And God Almighty bless thee, and make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, that thou mayest be a multitude of people;
Ge 28:4 And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.
Ge 28:5 And Isaac sent away Jacob: and he went to Padanaram unto Laban, son of Bethuel the Syrian, the brother of Rebekah, Jacob’s and Esau’s mother.
When Isaac blessed Jacob and told him not to take a wife of the daughters of Canaan, this is showing that Jesus Christ will not take a wife from the sinners and worldly church members. ‘Arise‘, in Scripture, many time, shows RESURRECTION. God told Jesus, here, in type, to ARISE, and go to the house of thy MOTHER’S father. Why is he sending him to take a wife from among his MOTHER’S PEOPLE?
It is showing that the true Bride of Christ will come from the seed of the woman, Eve. She is this spiritual Mother. She is the one whose SEED WILL BRUISE THE HEAD OF THAT OLD SERPENT. So only those who are of this righteous SEED will become a bride to Jesus Christ. He is her seed. His wife will have to also come from HER SEED.
Take a wife from the daughters of thy Mother’s brother. See? Take a wife from thy Mother’s father, thy Mother’s brother. It has to be from that Holy Mother of all Living. It has to be from her father and her brother’s house. Then, He received the blessing.. God Almighty bless thee, make thee fruitful and multiply thee. It is God speaking to Jesus. After Jesus takes that wife from among his Mother’s family, He will be blessed and multiply, becoming a multitude of people. The True Christians, Eve’s children, will fill the world, someday, and bring about eternal peace.
And Give thee the blessing of Abraham, and to thy seed with thee. Ga 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. Ga 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed. Ga 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
See that proves that those of FAITH are the blessed seed of Abraham. So they are the seed of the woman, Eve, for her seed is the one who is blessed to stop that old serpent and fill the earth with righteousness.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Ga 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Ga 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
What promise is he speaking about here? It is that very first promise made to Eve, thy SEED shall bruise the head of the serpent. So Isaac clearly is from this promise made to Eve. So this clearly is speaking about HER CHILDREN. This is also solid proof that Christ is this promised SEED OF EVE.
There has never been any promise made to ADAM, the man, that HIS SEED will bruise the head of the serpent, for indeed, his seed is that serpent.
So then, all of this has to be speaking about the Mother, Eve.
Now for solid proof that all of this came down through Isaac: Ro 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Ro 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Ro 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Ro 9:9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son. (Sarah’s son was Isaac, the promised seed.)
Ro 9:10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
Ro 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
Ro 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. Ro 9:13 As it is written, Jacobhave I loved, but Esauhave I hated.
So we see here, full proof that Esau represented those whom God hated and Jacob represented all whom God loved. God hated the children of the flesh, = Adam. God loved the spiritual children of Faith, Jesus and his children, or the Seed of the Woman, Eve.
In Isaac shall thy SEED BE CALLED. So this proves that this message, about Thy Mother is true and exactly with Scripture. It clearly lays out that the Seed of Abraham, was Jesus Christ. The Word of God clearly shows that Jesus Christ is the promised Seed to Eve, who would bruise the head of that old serpent. It could be no one else.
So Eve has to be the Mother this is referring to. She is the one from whom the bride of Christ has to come. Jacob was forbidden by his Father to take a wife from anyone other than from his Mother’s family. It had to be Seed of His Mother. His Mother here, is clearly Eve. It is her Seed to whom all of this leads and pertains. We are blessed with faithful Abraham, if we belong to Jesus Christ, the seed of the woman, Eve. So then we also must be of the Seed of the Woman. We must also have this holy Mother of all living for our Spiritual Mother. She is the Mother of all living. She is the one who carried that righteous seed of Faith to her children. Thus, she was saved through ‘CHILD BEARING’. It means she bore righteous children of God. It is not speaking about the children of the flesh, here, but the children of FAITH. This is made crystal clear, in this message.
Mal 1:2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob’s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
Mal 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Mal 1:4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
Now why would God have indignation against ‘this’ people, forever? Here is the answer: Eze 28:12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Eze 28:13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
Gen 3:23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Ge 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Grace and TRUTH came by Jesus Christ. If God said those of the LAW are not of FAITH, and those of the flesh are not the children of God, but the children of FAITH are counted for the promised SEED, then one thing is sure, God hates those of the LAW, who are not of faith, but are of the flesh.
He drove out the MAN, out of Eden, because of his wickedness. He was perfect in the day he was created until INIQUITY was found in him. That is none other than the beautiful Son of God, Adam. He was not of faith. He took up LAW. Those scriptures in Galatians and Romans solidly prove that it is speaking of the difference in people of LAW and people of GRACE, OR FAITH. So then, faith and truth and grace are all the same thing. This is the quality of the children of the Mother’s seed. So we must be of faith, truth, grace, or the Seed of Eve, in order to be the Jacob, whom God LOVED.
This is all tied together, faith, righteousness, grace, truth, promised seed, Woman’s seed, Seed of Jesus Christ…these are all one and the same and can come from no other source, other than THY MOTHER’S HOUSE OR SEED, which is the children of Eve, the Mother of all Living.The Bride of Christ must come from the Seed of the Woman. That woman is Eve. Yet this woman is more slandered, lied about and cursed than any other person who has ever lived. May God have mercy on all who read this, and bring you out of that darkness, into his marvelous LIGHT.
By: Jo Smith ~~` Sept. 21, 2008
~~ Thy Mother, Part Three ~~
Gen 24:63 And Isaac went out to meditate in the field at the eventide: and he lifted up his eyes, and saw, and, behold, the camels were coming.
Ge 24:64 And Rebekah lifted up her eyes, and when she saw Isaac, she lighted off the camel.
Ge 24:65 For she had said unto the servant, What man is this that walketh in the field to meet us? And the servant had said, It is my master: therefore she took a veil, and covered herself.
Ge 24:66 And the servant told Isaac all things that he had done.
Ge 24:67 And Isaac brought her into his mother Sarah’s tent, and took Rebekah, and she became his wife; and he loved her: and Isaac was comforted after his mother’s death.
There were ten virgins which all went out to meet the bridegroom. These ten virgins represent those in the churches who are trying to prepare to meet Jesus when He returns. We are on a journey to meet him, our Bridegroom. Those ten camels represent the power, or the Holy Ghost, which prepares us and carries us to meet our Bridegroom. We are inside a veil, which is our outward man, or human flesh. At even time it shall be light.
Isaac went out to meditate, as he anxiously awaited the coming of his Bride. He lifted up his eyes, and behold, the camels were coming. Rebekah also lifted up her eyes and saw Isaac. When she knew who he was, she lighted off the camel, to go to him.
If you think that the Word of God is JUST history, stories about these people’s lives, you are completely missing the true meaning of the Word of God. Those stories are fine, and enjoyable, but we need to grow up and mature in the Lord, and find the spiritual meanings, for our own day. There is much more to all of these ‘stories’ than just that. All of these things are in God’s word to teach us true Heavenly, spiritual matters. Each thing here, is representing something else, highly spiritual.
After the servant told Isaac all the things which he had done, Isaac brought Rebekah into his MOTHER’S tent and there she became his wife. Isaac loved Rebekah and was comforted after his mother’s death.
This is very significant that Isaac brought Rebekah into his MOTHER’S tent, to take her for his wife. His Mother, Sarah, on this side of the flood, is the MOTHER of the righteous, promised SEED, which is Jesus Christ. On the other side of the flood, Eve is this spiritual Mother. She is the Mother of all Living. This includes all the natural children, and also all the spiritual children. Her SEED is the Spiritual children. Her Seed is Spiritual, not natural.
The carnal minded can never understand the spiritual things, so their minds always go to the natural things, of human relationships and having natural babies. But this is SPIRITUAL. It is speaking about the heavenly bridegroom and the bride of Christ and their spiritual children.
The Mother’s tent shows that this is a continuation of the spiritual Seed which began in Mother Eve. It is HER spiritual line which is continuing as Isaac and Rebekah come together, both natural and spiritual.
Eve’s SEED is spiritual. It is the TRUTH of God, the Seed of God, which God placed into Eve, and she carried it to her spiritual children. It was in Abel, and after his death, it went into Seth. It then runs down through the spiritual people, until it comes to maturity and rest in Jesus Christ. He then takes this spiritual seed and produces all of God’s Holy Children, as he unites with his BRIDE in the Mother’s tent, or ourbodies.
Yes, our human bodies are the ‘carrier’ of this ‘unborn’ child of God, until the time of the resurrection, when that Manchild will be born into the image of his father, Jesus Christ. We are now a ‘woman with child’, both men and women, who have the Seed of Christ growing inside them. We are of that holy Seed which began in Eve.
Her Seed is NOT SPEAKING about her natural children, of which the first was Cain. Cain was NOT of that holy Seed. He was of Satan, the serpent, or Adam. Adam’s seed is not the natural children, either. It is that unholy seed of rebellion to God. So both of these seeds are spiritual. One is a holy Seed, from Eve, and the other is a satanic seed, beginning in Adam. He is the one through whom sin entered this world, not Eve. Their ‘natural’ children, can go either way. They can become spiritual, from the Seed of Eve, or they can become evil and wicked, from the unholy seed of rebellion, from their ‘father’ Satan, or Adam. Adam was a natural man; but he is also a spiritual man, who is wicked. His seed is this wicked seed. He is the natural Dad of both Cain and Abel. But he was the spiritual father of only Cain.
Eve is both a natural woman and a spiritual woman. Her children were both the natural children and also the spiritual children. She is the spiritual mother of the children of God. She is the natural mother of everyone.
Adam WILLFULLY sinned against God. That WILLFUL sin is UNFORGIVABLE. He sinned WILLFULLY after having known God, his power, his Word and the powers of the word to come, so for him, there is no forgiveness.
Eve was deceived, so her sin was NOT willful. She actually thought that Adam or that old serpent, had told her the truth and that she was doing God’s will. Those who claim that people are already ‘gods’, need to go learn WHY Adam wanted to take of that tree of the knowledge of good and evil. He said, God does know that we shall be AS GODS. So, he was NOT as a god until he partook of that forbidden fruit, of law.
Men are tempted when they are drawn away with their own lusts. So this agrees with the fact that Adam, the anointed cherub, of Eze. 28, lusted to be as God. He wanted to RULE over others, so he took up law, for that is the only means by which he could be worshipped as a god and rule over others. Under grace, this is not possible, so he willfully FELL from GRACE and took up LAW.
When Eve saw that this was wrong and displeased God, then she repented and was restored to her full fellowship with the eternal God, resulting is great hardships and persecutions on her and her righteous children. It is evidenced by Cain’s killing Abel. These things are revealed all through Scripture. Eve did not knowingly and willfully sin against God. So her sin was forgiven and she is the Mother of all Living. She is the ‘MOTHER’ of the Spiritual children of God.
Again, get this, her SEED, which would bruise the head of that old serpent, is the SPIRITUAL SEED, the children of God. It has nothing to do with natural children or natural childbirth. Those who can only see the natural here, are carnal minded, and blinded to all spiritual things or truth. Eve and Abel taught many to serve the True God, and led them out of that false ‘Adam-worship’. Thus she brought them to the truth God and became their spiritual ‘mother’, as well as their natural mother.
Now this had to repeat. A Virgin shall be with child and bear a son, who will be called the Mighty God, the Everlasting Father, the Prince of Peace. So how did this come about? By that holy Seed, which was FIRST in thy Mother, Eve, and then traveled down into a righteous woman, called Mary. She performed that birthing of the NATURAL child as Eve had birthed natural children, and passed the Holy Seed into them. Mary birthed a natural child and then passed the Holy Seed into him, as Eve had done to her spiritual children. Then Jesus was a ‘woman-with-child’ as the Christ developed inside him.
Jesus birthed the Spiritual Child. Mary performed the Natural part, but Jesus performed the Spiritual part. Mary birthed a natural child. Jesus birthed a spiritual child. Mary also birthed a spiritual child, but it was her OWN SELF, BEING FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST AND SERVING THE TRUE AND LIVING GOD ALL HER LIFE. THEN SHE WILL BE RESURRECTED INTO THE IMAGE OF GOD’S DEAR SON, JESUS CHRIST.
So Mary’s manchild is her own ‘born again’ soul. Jesus’ manchild is his own ‘born again’ soul. That born again soul is that SPIRITUAL CHILD. It came from that Holy Seed, inside Eve. It matured inside Jesus Christ and came forth, the very first one being born from the dead, into resurrection of GLORY.
Only the truly Spiritual minded will be able to understand this message. But it is so clearly explained here, that I don’t see how anyone could NOT see it.
By: Jo Smith ~ Sept. 22, 2008
~~ Thy Mother, Part Four ~~
Ge 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Ge 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Ge 3:20 And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
Ge 17:15 And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be. Ge 17:16 And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her. (notice this wording…’kings’ of people. It is speaking about the Kings in Christ Jesus.)
Ge 20:12 And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife. (His sister became his wife.)
(Notice also, that she was the daughter of his father, but not of his mother. This is showing that we all have the same spiritual father, which is our God, but not the same Mother. Each of our own individual selves, is the Mother of our Christ child.)
Mt 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. (Notice, the SAME person is his brother, sister and mother.)
Mt 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (He now leaves his ‘mother’ and cleaves to his wife.)
2ti 1:5 When I call to remembrance the unfeigned faith that is in thee, which dwelt first in thy grandmother Lois, and thy mother Eunice; and I am persuaded that in thee also.
Ro 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. (Now we are married to the one who was raised from the dead. So now that we are married to him, we can bring forth FRUIT unto God. This fruit is our CHRIST CHILD.)
Paul told Timothy, this faith was first in thy grandmother and thy MOTHER, and now in thee. See then, that it is showing that the Seed of Faith was still passing down from Mother to son or children. The ‘mother’ is the one who carries this seed. So it again, is speaking spiritual. A natural man can also be a mother, by being a carrier of the Seed. But it is SHOWN and revealed, in Scripture, by being a Mother, so that the truth of it is known spiritually.
A lot of spiritual revelation is among all of these verses. I pray God will bring it out. Abraham’s sister became his wife. Jesus said those who do the will of his Father are his brother, sister and mother. The mother is the carrier of the seed of faith. So if one is doing the will of the Father, they are carrying that seed of faith, which is CHRIST. So then that one is the mother of the Christ. Since they are also among others who are bearing this same Christ child, they are sister and brothers.
But there comes a great day when we die to this old self, and marry the one who was raised from the dead. We then, being his mother, sister and brother, become his WIFE. That Christ inside us has matured and come forth from the grave, into immortality, where it picks back up that old dead self, the mother, or carrier of that seed of Faith, then it marries that same one. That old self is now the WIFE of the resurrected Christ, which was the child growing inside that old mother.
Remember that Sarah had the revelation from God, to CAST OUT THE BONDCHILD, for the bond child shall not be heir with the free child. Since Abraham was father to BOTH, he did not want to send Ishmael away. But see, the things which these people went through, is not of their own doings, as it had to be, to reveal the spiritual things of God. Many people try to say that Rebekah and Jacob were evil, as they deceived Isaac. But see that is not the case. Those two people were being used by God, to reveal his truth and his way in this earth. So the things they did were ordered by God himself.
Rebekah had the revelation here, as did Sarah, when she did the things she did. She is the one who had the Word of God for what needed to be done there. Jesus Christ, being the SECOND BORN, had to be the one to inherit the Father’s blessings, so Rebekah had to see that Jacob received it. His being obedient to her, shows that Jesus was always obedient to his parents, both natural and spiritual. Sarah had to send away that bond child, to fulfill the Word of God. She was not wicked. She was obeying God. Rebekah and Jacob were not evil. They were obeying God.
So when people become carnal minded and judge these things as being wicked or wrong, they themselves are the ones in error, by not understanding spiritual things.
So Sarah had a revelation from God to CAST OUT THE BOND CHILDREN. See, we cannot allow the bond child, or earthly, first born, our self, to be the one living in us. We must CAST that ‘bond child’ out and allow the new Christ Child, or seed of Faith, to grow and be the one living in us. We must not try to serve God by law, for this is the bond child, also. We must serve God by pure FAITH, WHICH IS GRACE. If not, then that bond child is still the one who is standing in our way of receiving the blessing of glorification. The bond child shall NOT BE heir with the free child. So we must ‘die’ daily to that old self, or the bond child. Cast that bondage out of thy tabernacle, if you want to inherit glorification!
Oh my. Such glory. I do hope all who read this can see this glorious truth and revelation. See, the Christ child, the Seed of Faith, which was growing inside us, in our earthly lifetime, comes out of the grave, a glorified person, picking up that old body, in which the Seed of Faith lived, and bringing it into ONENESS or MARRIAGE with the Christ which was inside that old ’mother’ or carrier of that faith Seed. It was the very same way with Jesus Christ.
This is why almost everyone thinks, in error, that Jesus, the man born to Mary, was or is God or this Christ. But, see that is not the case. That babe, born to Mary, was a human being. But she placed that Seed of Faith into this child of hers. God gave this man the Holy Ghost and the Word of God. Thus Jesus was ’with child’. He was ’carrying’ a manchild, the Christ Child of faith, inside his heart. God was and is the Father of this Christ Child of faith. People see this and get it confused and think that God ’fathered’ that baby inside Mary’s womb. That is just not true. God did NOT put anything of God into that baby. God did not put the seed of God, or the Holy Ghost, or the Word of God, into that baby growing inside Mary’s natural womb.
God ’fathered’ his child inside the heart of Jesus, exactly as Jesus now does to all of us. So then, Jesus was a son of God, in exactly the same we are sons of God. God gave Jesus the Holy Ghost when Jesus was baptized. God was feeding the Word of God to Jesus all the days of his life and that Word-seed was growing inside Jesus, producing a SON OF GOD, THE CHRIST. This is why Christ, not Jesus, is that 42nd generation, In Matt. One. Jesus is generation # 41. Check it out and see!
This Christ is the part which was from everlasting to everlasting. This Christ, The Seed of Faith, The Word-Seed, is what was with God in the beginning. This Seed of Faith, mixes with our own spirit and thus a new child of God is born, carrying the same characteristics of God, the Father, and the nature of the ‘mother’ of this child, the human person, in whom the Seed is placed. So, Jesus Christ came forth out of the grave, having the same character of his Father, plus his very own nature. He is now the Son of the Father. But he is also now the ‘husband’ of that ‘mother’ in which this seed was carried, which was Jesus, the Son of Mary. This person, who was the sister of this Christ, inside Jesus, has now become his wife, as he marries this human person and they become ONE New person in the LORD.
He has now left his father and his mother, that earthly parent, and has married that person, making that person his eternal WIFE. Sound confusing? It is really quite simple. We simple have the Seed of God placed into our heart, in this life. That Seed is the coming child of God, yet still in the ‘womb’. And it will stay in that ‘womb’ until that old ‘mother’ comes out of the GRAVE into NEW LIFE. Then that Christ, which was residing inside that old ‘mother’, or carrier of that Seed of Faith, then mergers with that old human person, self, and they together, become ONE NEW MAN, glorified into the image of the one who beget him, which is Jesus Christ.
With Jesus, the one who beget that Child was God. So Jesus married the Lord God. He is now one with God. He is now our God. He is our Mother, our Father, our sister and brother, He will be our ETERNAL HUSBAND. But it is the Christ, the seed of Faith, which was MINE, IN THIS LIFETIME.
Jesus will still have his very own individuality, as will all others, who come to this MARRIAGE SUPPER. That marriage supper is when we come out of that grave, put on our glorified body, which marries that old body and it becomes wife to the new person, who is now eternal.
So you see, it is not Jesus who was the eternal Seed. That Seed was placed into Jesus to bring forth FRUIT unto God, the fruit being his own life, glorified into perfection. That inner Christ, the Seed of God, is the one doing the speaking in Jesus, saying, Before Abraham was, I am. People have mistaken this to be the human man, Jesus. It is not so. It is the same as I would say I am from above, being my inner child of Faith speaking. That inner child of Faith, will someday marry this old self, and they will become ONE, a new person in glory.
Adam and Eve were the original children of God, having been CREATED by God. They were glorified beings to start with. They had a power and glory of which we know NOTHING. They were set to be the PARENTS, both natural, and spiritual of ALL OF GOD’S CHILDREN. They both had the power to beget children, natural and spiritual. They would have given that spiritual Seed of Faith to every one of their children and they would have ALL been children of God, without any sin….. EXCEPT for ONE THING.>>>
And that is … Adam became wicked. Adam rebelled against God and picked up a carnal, wicked mind. This wicked, carnal mind is that serpent. But it is the mind of Adam, after he rebelled against God.
Then he deceived Eve into partaking of that law and setting up animal sacrifices to HIM so he could be as a god. Eve recognized that this was wrong and she repented and came back into full fellowship with God. She was given the Seed of Faith, brought back into Grace, and thus became the MOTHER of all the true children of God.
Eve not only birthed the natural children, but she then proceeded to try to get them all to obey and serve the truth God, and not Adam. Some of them listened to her and became sons of God. But most of them followed their daddy, Adam, that old serpent, and they picked up a satanic spirit, from Adam. These started with Cain, who was of that wicked one. Cain followed Adam all the way, even to killing his brother.
Eve proves that she is serving the true God, when she gave God the glory and blessed him for her children. Later, she shows that she is not the ‘mother’ of the wicked Cain, by denying him as HER SEED. She said, at the birth of Seth, God has given ME ANOTHER SEED IN PLACE OF ABEL. GET THAT. IN PLACE OF ABEL, WHOM CAIN SLEW.
So this proves that Cain was of the wicked seed of Satan, which is the corrupted Adam. Since these two people are the only ones who could be the ‘fathers’ and ‘mothers’ of the children, then the children had to all take of one of their parents’ spirits.
Those who served the true God, had received the Seed of Faith from their mother, Eve. Those who were wicked, as Cain, had received the seed of evil or Satan, from their daddy, Adam. This carried on until that flood. After the flood, Noah is now passing on the seed of Faith. Then along came Abraham and Sarah. Sarah is now passing along that seed of Faith into the children of God. She is the Mother of nations. He is the father of the righteous. He fathered both the natural children and the spiritual children, as did Eve.So now, I think God has given a full and true understanding in these messages about the MOTHER, of these spiritual truths. And I do thank him for giving me this glory.
Luke 11: 24. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25. And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. 26. Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
(Do you believe Jesus?) Do you believe this saying?
Here Is proof that a person can repent, become clean, have the evil spirits gone out of them, yet not be filled with the Holy Ghost.
That is what is means — that his ‘house’ (body) was swept and garnished. This means his life was cleaned up and he was living for God.
But he had failed to let the Holy Ghost come in and fill his house with another ‘spirit’ = the Holy Ghost.
So at some time later in life, the unclean spirit that had abode in this person earlier, is still seeking someone to get into, so he decides to go back ‘home’. And he does.
When he comes back to this person and checks him out, he finds that this person is going in his own strength of repentance in living clean. So He says to himself, uhuh. This person is all alone; I will get him again. So he had some ‘buddies’ out in the spirit world that had also been cast out of someone. And they too are seeking a body or house to get into.
So, this generous spirit decides not to be selfish – he goes back to find his ‘friends’ and takes seven spirits more wicked than himself back and they all get into this person, and the end of this person is worse than his beginning when he had only one evil spirit in him.
Peter agreed to this when he said it is better not to have known the right way to have known it and then turn from it. He said it is dogs returning back to their own vomit; hogs returning to their wallowing.
I plead with you and anyone else who reads this, do not let this happen to you. Go and be baptized in water in the Name of Jesus and receive the Holy Ghost before those evil spirits return to you. And they will, if you keep obeying man instead of God’s Word.
Don’t be too proud to be baptized in Jesus Name. If you are, he will some day reject you.
This is the message God has sent me to deliver. I am trying my best. Hope someone will receive it before it is too late for him or her.
Jo Smith–Oct. 11, 2002
Now in Oct. 30, 2003 I wish to add something to this message, something which God has only recently given me the understanding on. It must be a part of this message.
The Law Covenant of the OT has been done away with by God. He has totally rejected that covenant and will never pick it back up again. He never did want law. He never did want people to be under law. This is the tree which God commanded Adam not to eat of. It is death. It leads to death. It is that evil spirit. Yes, strange as it sounds this is the truth which the whole word of God is dealing with from the beginning until the end. It is to get people from under that law and into grace. This is the only hope of salvation.
You cannot come to God now by keeping laws. You cannot serve God under law. You cannot keep ten commandments and be pleasing to God. Going to Church is not going to make you pleasing to God. It will never take away your sins. It will never make you right with God.
Now God did away with that old law nation, or old covenant by letting it be nailed to that Cross on which Jesus died. IN other words it died there with Jesus. Jesus killed it with the Sword of the word. He took it into hell. But what happened after that? That old law head of mankind was healed. Yes, it was brought back up again and all the world wondered after this beast.
It had one evil spirit in it to begin with. But when the church picked back up that law, then it passed through seven churches and thus it picked up seven evil spirits more wicked than the first evil spirit which had been cast out of it. As it passed down through all seven churches in Revelation, it was repossessed with seven more evil spirits.
They who picked back up on serving God by their own works of the law were the ones Peter spoke of who were dogs returning to their vomit. They were the hogs returning to their mud-wallowing. See God had cleaned them all up from being under that law tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
At Calvary Jesus cleansed the whole world. Only those who pick back up that evil tree again are now dirty again. They are the ones to whom seven more evil spirits entered into. They become the one with eight evil spirits in them. This is the end of the way for them. They are now ready for destruction. They are now set to be plucked up by their roots and be cast into hell fire. Thus they are the ones who are twice dead; plucked up by the roots. Twice dead because they were killed at Calvary, but now having been picked back up by the church, or had that head healed, and now are dead through a polluted church system.
This is the Babylon Church, the seven churches in their idolatry. The whorish church of today is now full of all eight evil spirits. They are full of idols. They are full of devil worship. They are in worse shape than when they were under law in the OT. This church is the one who is the Old Jerusalem, the desolate, forsaken wife of whoredoms who has been refused, but has been repossessed with seven evil spirits, more wicked than the first one of law.
Come out of her God’s people. If not, you will receive of her plagues.
1. She has a name on her forehead, “mystery, babylon the great,”Rev. 17:5. This name is surely appropriate as far as Romanism is concerned. Paul called the Church a “mystery” because it was unknown to the Old Testament prophets, Eph. 3:1-12; 5:23-32. So here this apostate religious system is called a “mystery” because she was not known before her revelation to John. Some have tried to make a comparison between this whore and the Church, calling one the bride of Christ and the other the bride of Antichrist, but a vital truth has been overlooked in this. Antichrist has never wanted this whore. He tolerates her only until he has gained sufficient power to destroy her. He does not seek for her, love her, and nourish her as Christ does the Church, so there can be no comparison. In the second place, the Church is not the bride of Christ. (See Chapter Forty-Five.)
It is said that the papal crown bore the word “mystery” on its frontlet for some time, but it was removed by Julius III, after having his attention called to the accusation of this passage. The Roman Church has always shrouded herself in mystery. The mystery of baptismal regeneration, the mystery of miracle whereby the literal bread and wine are supposedly changed into the actual blood and body of Christ, the mystery of holy water and of the lights on altars, the mystery of plays, confession, and other rites and ceremonies, mumbled in a language that tends to be mysterious all go to help us to understand that this system is Babylon in mystery. These ordinances were unknown in John’s day but they are recognized now by all as part of the Catholic ceremony of mystery, thus identifying her as Mystery Babylon, and the only one that will meet the requirements of this prophecy in the last days. Even Catholic divines admit that this description fits their church. For instance, Cardinal Ballarmine says, “St. John, in his Apocalypse, calls Rome (the priestly term for the Roman Church) Babylon.” The celebrated French Prelate, Boussuet, in his exposition of Revelation says, “The features are so marked that it is easy to decipher Rome under the figure of Babylon.”
The Ancient Babylonian Cult
Since this is true, what is the historic relation of Babylon to the city of Rome and the Roman Church, and why should Romanism be called Babylon in mystery? That the cities of Rome and Babylon were related seems to have been well known in the earlier days. It is simple to trace in the archives of history the relation of Babylon to Rome and of Rome to the Roman Church. Let us look at the history of ancient Babylon.
This city was built by Nimrod, the mighty hunter, Genesis 10:8-10. It was the seat of the first great apostasy against God after the flood. Here the “Babylonian Cult” was invented by Nimrod and his queen, Semiramis. It was a system claiming the highest wisdom and ability to reveal the most divine secrets. This cult was characterized by the word “mystery” because of its system of mysteries. Besides confessing to the priests at admission, one was compelled to drink of “mysterious beverages,” which, says Salverte (Des Sciences Occultes, page 259) “was indispensable on the part of those who sought initiation into these mysteries.” The “mysterious beverages” were composed of wine, honey, water, and flour. They were always of an intoxicating nature, and until the aspirants had come under the influence of it and had their understanding dimmed they were not prepared for what they were to see and hear. The method was to introduce privately, little by little, information under seal of secrecy and sanction of oath that would be impossible to reveal otherwise. This has been the policy of the Roman Church and the secret of the power of the priests over the lives of men whom they could expose to the world for their sins that have been confessed to them. Once admitted, men were no longer Babylonians, Assyrians, or Egyptians, but were members of a mystical brotherhood, over whom was placed a Supreme Pontiff or High Priest whose word was final in all things in the lives of the brotherhood regardless of the country in which they lived.
The ostensible objects of worship were the Supreme Father, the Incarnate Female, or Queen of Heaven, and her Son. The last two were really the only objects of worship, as the Supreme Father was said not to interfere with mortal affairs (Nimrod III, page 239.) This system is believed to have come from fallen angels and demons. The object of the cult was to rule the world by these dogmas.
How the Ancient Babylonian Cult Spread
In the days of Nimrod this cult secured a deep hold on the whole human race for it was of one language and all were one people. Nimrod gained the title “Mighty Hunter” and “the Apostate” because of his success in building cities with walls to free men from the ravages of wild beasts which were multiplying against men, and because of his freeing men of the idea of God and His wrath. As a great deliverer and protector of the people and the head of the godless civilization at that time he would naturally have great influence upon the people. He led them astray to such an extent that they gloried in the fact that they were free from the faith of their fathers.
All tradition from the earliest time bears witness of this great apostasy, which continued to such proportion that people defied God to send another flood to destroy men by building a tower to escape such. The result was that God confused their language and scattered them throughout the earth. This Babylonian system was the one which the Devil had planned to counteract the truth of God. From Babylon it spread to the ends of the earth and we have record that Abraham was chosen of God from all these idolatrous nations to represent the true God. Through him God planned to bring man back to Himself. This explains how the different nations of the world have traditions and religions somewhat similar, with changes suitable to the individual nation.
After the nations were scattered abroad, Babylon continued to be the “seat of Satan” until it was taken by Xerxes in 487 B.C. The Babylonian priesthood was then forced to leave Babylon, so it moved to Pergamos, which was the headquarters for some time. When Attalus, the Pontiff and King of Pergamos, died in 133 B.C. he bequeathed the headship of the Babylonian priesthood to Rome. When the Etruscans came to Italy from Lydia (the region of Pergamos) they brought with them the Babylonian religion and rites. They set up a Pontiff who was the head of the priesthood and had the power of life and death over them. Later, the Romans accepted this Pontiff as their civil ruler. Julius Caesar was made the Supreme Pontiff of the Etruscan Order in 74 B.C. In 63 B.C. he was made Supreme Pontiff of the Babylonian Order, thereby becoming heir to the rights and titles of Attalus, who had made Rome his heir by will.
Thus, the first Roman emperor became the head of the Babylonian priesthood and Rome became the successor of Babylon with Pergamos as the seat of this cult. Henceforth, Rome’s religion has been that of Babylon. In the year 218 A.D. the Roman army in Syria, having rebelled against Macrinus, elected Elagabalus emperor. This man was High Priest of the Egyptian branch of Babylonianism. He was shortly afterward chosen Supreme Pontiff by the Romans, and thus the two Western branches of the Babylonian apostasy centered in the Roman Emperors who continued to hold this office until 376 A.D. when the Emperor Gratian, for Christian reasons refused it because he saw that by nature Babylonianism was idolatrous. Religious matters became disorganized until it became necessary to elect someone to fill the office.
The Babylonian Religion and Roman Christendom United
Damascus, Bishop of the Christian Church at Rome, was elected to this office. He had been bishop for twelve years, having been made such in 366 A.D. through the influence of the monks of Mount Carmel, a college of the Babylonian religion originally founded by the priests of Jezebel and continued to this day in connection with Rome. So, in 378 A.D., the Babylonian system of religion became part of the Christian Church, for the bishop of Rome, who later became the supreme head of the organized church, was already Supreme Pontiff of the Babylonian Order. All the teachings of pagan Babylon and Rome were gradually interspersed into the Christian religious organization. Soon after Damascus was made Supreme Pontiff, the rites of Babylon began to come to the front. The worship of the Roman Church became Babylonish, and under him the heathen temples were restored and beautified and the rituals established. Thus, the corrupt religious system under the figure of a woman with a golden cup in her hand, making all nations drunk with her fornication, is divinely called “mystery, babylon the great.”
The Effects of This Union Upon Organized Christianity
The changes that transpired in the doctrines and practices of the Roman Church by this union did not come all at once. The Roman Church of today is purely a human institution; her doctrines, which militate against God’s Word, were never taught by Christ nor the apostles. They crept into the church centuries afterward. It can be seen how easily the Babylonish rites were introduced into, and made a part of this church, when the greatest influence in it became the Supreme Pontiff of the Babylonian Order. The adherents of each religion would not compromise so a union of the two was the outcome. The following points in conjunction with the above history of the rise of the Catholic Church will show some of the pagan elements that entered into the church, many of which were taken from the Babylonian religion:
(1) The first after this union was the introduction of the worship of the saints, especially of the virgin Mary. Thousands of pagans entered the church in those times who were accustomed to worshipping the gods of towns and places, and who were not thoroughly Christianized. The veneration of saints and holy men became a worship. Saints were considered lesser deities, whose intercession availed with God. Places connected with the lives of holy men were considered sacred and pilgrimages resulted. Relics or bones of saints were believed to have miracle working power. The worship of the virgin Mary was set up in 381 A.D., three years after Damascus became head of the Babylonian Cult.
Just as the Babylonian Cult worshipped the “Queen of Heaven” and her “Son” and did not worship the “Supreme Father” because He, supposedly, did not interfere with mortal affairs, so the Roman Church has a similar worship in that they worship Mary as the “Mother of God” and her “Son.” The image of mother and child was an object of worship in Babylon long before Christ. From Babylon this spread to the ends of the earth. The original mother was Semiramis, the beautiful queen of Nimrod, who was a paragon of unbridled lust and licentiousness.
In the “mysteries” which she had the chief part in forming, she was worshipped as “Rhea” (Chronicon Paschale, Vol. 1, page 65), the great “Mother of the Gods” with such atrocious rites as identified her with Venus, the mother of all impurity. She raised Babylon, where she reigned, to eminence among the nations as the great seat of idolatry and consecrated prostitution. (Hesiod, Theogonia, Vol. 36, page 453). The apocalyptic emblem of the harlot with cup in hand was one of idolatry derived from ancient Babylon, as they were exhibited in Greece, for thus the Greek Venus was originally represented. (Herodotus, Historia, Book 1, cap. 199, page 92).
The Roman Church has taken this as her emblem. In 1825 a medal was struck bearing the image of Pope Leo XII on one side and on the other side Rome symbolized by a woman with a cross in her left hand and a cup in her right hand and a legend around her “Sedet Super Universum”; i.e., “The whole world is her seat.”
From this original, practically all nations have copied a similar worship and in each land the same figure is carried out under different names. In Egypt the mother and child are known as Isis and Osiris; in India, Isi and Iswara; in Eastern Asia, Cybele and Deoius; in pagan Rome, Fortuna and Jupiter-puer; in Greece, Ceres or as Irene with Plutus in arms, etc. In Tibet, China, and Japan the Jesuits were surprised to find the counterpart of the madonna (the Italian name for virgin) and her child as devoutly worshipped as in Rome itself. Shing Moo, the mother of China, is represented with child in her arms and a glory around her exactly as if a Catholic artist had painted her. Where did these nations get this common worship if not from Babylon before the dispersion in the days of Nimrod? Thus the worship of Mary in connection with her Son is of Babylonish origin for there is no such worship in Scripture.
(2) Our next allusion is to the supremacy of the pope over all moral and religious affairs of the church, and unlimited and immediate authority over the lives of all as was true of the Babylonian Pontiff, as we have seen in Chapter Twenty-Seven.
(3) The worship and veneration of images was begun early. It was first decreed by the Second Council of Nice, 787 A.D. In the ninth century certain emperors attempted to abolish such worship but it was so rooted in the people and the attempt was so resisted by the ignorant and the monks that the emperors gave up their persecutions and in 869 A.D. a synod at Constantinople declared in favor of them. Image worship is purely pagan and came from Babylon.
(4) Private confession to a priest grew from a small beginning in the second and third centuries to an elaborate system in the time of Innocent III, 1215 A.D., but it was not decreed by council until the Council of Trent, 1551. People were compelled to confess to a priest at least once a year and to do penance according to the degree of sins committed. Penances were fastings, scourgings, pilgrimages, etc. Without confession no one had a right to the sacraments. This is the same system Babylon had, which bound the people to the priest by fear of exposure or divine wrath.
(5) The “Sign of the Cross” had its origin in the mystic “Tau” of the Babylonian Cult. It came from the letter “T,” the initial letter of Tammuz (Ezek. 8:14), but better known in the classical writings as “Bacchus,” “The Lamented one” who was Nimrod, the son of Cush.
(6) The “Rosary” is of pagan origin. It is used for the same magic purposes in Romanism for which it was used in the Babylonian mysteries.
(7) The “Order of Monks” and “Nuns” was borrowed from the Babylonian Cult. The latter is an imitation of the “Vestal Virgins” of Pagan Rome, copied from Babylon.
(8) The outstanding festivals of Romanism, such as Christmas, Easter, St. John’s Day, Lady Day, Lent, etc., are Babylonian and have no relation to Christ and the Bible. None of them were celebrated in Christendom for 200 years after Christ. Note the following:
A. Christmas, literally “Christ-mass,” was copied from a heathen festival observed on December 24 and 25 in honor of the son of the Babylonian Queen Astarte, and was kept centuries before Christ. The Chaldeans called it “Yule Day” or “Child Day.” The Christmas tree so well known now was equally pagan and was common to all the heathen in those lands. According to a legend, on the eve of the day we call December 24 the “yulelog was cast into a tree” from which divine gifts from the gods were taken to bless men in the new year. This tree was common in the days of Jeremiah who warns Israel to flee from this heathen custom, Jer. 10:1-9.
There is no warrant that Christ was born on December 25. On the contrary it seems that He was born during warm days, for He was born in a manger and in the cold months from December to February the winters are too severe for one to be traveling to pay tax as Joseph did with his family. Shepherds were in the field when Christ was born and it was not customary for them to stay with their flocks in the open from October to February. The winters of that land are so severe that Christ said, “Pray that your flight be not in winter,” Mt. 24:15-22. The only thing given in Scripture whereby we are to remember Christ is the Lord’s Supper.
The apostles did not observe such a day as is common to us. Tertullian, writing about 230 A.D., lamented the fact that Christians were beginning to observe the custom of the heathen and said, “Gifts are carried to and fro, new year’s day presents are made with din, and sports and banquets are celebrated with uproar; how much more faithful are the heathen to their religion, who take special care to adopt no solemnity of the Christians.” The church after Constantine, full of pagans, became so corrupt that, in order to conciliate the heathen and swell the ranks of nominal Christians, adopted this heathen festival on December 25 and gave it the name of Christ-mass. It is not known when this was officially done but it was not observed as a ritual of the church until the fourth century. (See the International Encyclopedia on this subject.)
B. Lady Day is observed on March 25 and is also of Babylonian origin. It is the supposed day of the miraculous conception of Mary, while, among the heathen, it was observed as a festival in honor of Cybele, the Mother of the Babylonian Messiah. In Rome, Cybele was called Domina, or Lady, hence, Lady Day.
C. Easter also sprang from the fountain of Babylon. It is not a Christian name, since its derivation is from Ishtar, one of the Babylonian titles of the Queen of Heaven. It was the worship of this woman by Israel which was such an abomination in the sight of God, 1 Sam. 7:3; Jer. 44:18. Round cakes, imprinted with the sign of the cross, were made at this festival, the sign being, in the Babylonian mysteries, a sign of life. This day was observed centuries before Christ and is possibly a factor in the origin of our Easter and hot-cross buns. (See Mosheim’s History of the Church 1, page 370.)
The Easter eggs which play a great part in this day’s celebration were common in heathen nations. The fable of the egg affirms that “an egg of wondrous size fell from heaven into the river Euphrates; the fishes rolled it to the bank, where the doves settled upon it and hatched it and out came Astarte, or Ishtar, the goddess of Easter.” The word “Easter” is used one time in the Bible (Acts 12:4) and should be translated “passover” instead, as elsewhere in Scripture.
D. Lent which is observed for forty days, ending with Easter, is derived from the Babylonian system of mysteries. It is also observed today by devil worshippers of Kurdistan, who obtained it from the same source as did Rome. Humboldt found it practiced among the pagan Mexicans and Wilkinson informs us that it was a custom in ancient Egypt. Both Easter and Lent were introduced into the church in 519 A.D. A writer of this time says, “The observance of Lent had no existence so long as the Church remained inviolate.”—Cassianus. At the same time of the year that Romanism observes it the heathen observe it for a different purpose—as a celebration of the “rape of Proserpine” in which is culminated a period of unbridled lust after forty days of enforced abstinence in preparation therefor. How well does God liken Romanism to a whore, who professes to be the sole spotless bride of Christ, but in reality is the final great apostate religious system linked with the world and exercising power over the nations of the world under the ten kings until Antichrist comes to full power and destroys her in the middle of the Week.
Freeborn, I think this just about sums it up about what the Catholic Church truly is… Tweety
The Catholic peoples have roots in heretical doctrines!!
You are Catholic, your roots are not tracable back to Jesus!
“BELIEVERS” are IN The only CHRISTIAN Church Jesus formed.. The harlot church that calls itself Catholic is not that Church!! To be a believer you must believe the words of Jesus!
Catholics reject the words of Jesus! They instead believe their demon influenced Pope and his evil underlings.
You do NOT believe the same as CHRISTIANS.. AGAIN.. One more time.. “CHRISTIANS” believe in Jesus, not the god of Catholicism!!
Christians Teach: “Confession of sins to God”!.. Not you.. Not Catholics.. they pray to a demon that calls itself Mary for grace. They ask a mere mortal man who calls himself their Father to forgive their sins. That man has no power to forgive their sins, he can forgive them for trespassing against him, but he cannot forgive them of their sins. The harlot church prays to the creature who has no power to forgive sin.
Catholics TAUGHT .. “The Bread IS the Flesh of Jesus”.. Christians teach that the bread symbolizes Jesus’ flesh, but that it is not His flesh. Christians are not cannibalistic! Catholics are.
Catholics teach the heretical doctrine..”Peter is the Chief Apostle”! The Word of God does not!
Catholics TAUGHT..From the start of their harlot church.. “Praying for the Dead”!.. The Bible teaches no such thing, therefore Christians do not pray for the dead. Christians know that the dead cannot be prayed into heaven. If they did not trust Christ as Savior before their death, their home is in hell for all eternity and no amount of praying will change God’s mind about them after they are dead.
Catholics.. TAUGHT..from the start.. “Mary mother of God”! Christians teach God existed before and created Mary therefore Mary cannot be the mother of God.!
Catholics TAUGHT..from the start.. “Where the BISHOP IS.. There is the Catholic Church”.. The Word of God teaches no such doctrine!
Catholics TAUGHT..from the start.. “The Blood of Jesus is DRANK” to save men.. Christians teach the cup only SYMBOLIZES the blood of the New Covenant which was shed for many.
Catholics TAUGHT..from the start.. “The church Of Jesus is lead/ Entrusted to the Pope and his BISHOPS!”.. The Word of God doesn’t give popes any authority over the Church, nor does the Word of God give any Catholic authority in His Church.
Catholics TAUGHT..from the start.. “Baptism SAVES”!. The Word of God teaches that Jesus savees!
Catholics TAUGHT..from the start.. “The BISHOP has the AUTHORITY to TEACH and make DOCTRINE”…The Word of God tells us that the Word of God is given for doctrine, not the heretical bishops of the harlot church that calls itself Catholic! The Word of God nowhere teaches Bishops to make doctrine.
The Pope has a big head setting himself up as God over the church and will one day find himself in hell along with his evil church body.
Jesus built his CHRISTIAN Church.. He did not buiild the catholic’s idolatrous church!!
Catholics claim they can trace their roots back to Jesus, but satan has them blinded to make them think he is Jesus and his demon is Mary.
This is a message that I did on another board where we are discussing about the word that was preached in 1 Tim.3:16.
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
He is a Jesus only preacher and they will twist the word to prove their doctrine
He used the verses about the woman and said Jesus was the one sent to preach to the Gentiles.
My answer to him ¨C11C ¨C12C¨C13C¨C14C ¨C15C ¨C16C¨C17C¨C18C¨C19C¨C20C¨C21C¨C22C¨C23C¨C24C
by freeborn551 for everyone From: 짰Larry_W_B_1짤 (Original Message) Sent: 8/6/2005 5:34 AM The Serpent’s Seed 1-1 Dear God, the great and mighty God, Who formed all things by the power of His Spirit, and has brought Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, Who freely died for we sinners, the Just for the unjust, to reconcile us back into this marvelous fellowship that we have again with God. As we are taught in the blessed Word, that we had fellowship with Him before the foundation of the world, when the morning stars sang together, and the sons of God shouted for joy, way back before the foundation of the world. How do we know that that wasn’t at the same time that the Lamb was slain; that when God in His great thinking seen us shouting and rejoicing in our salvation through Jesus? And tonight we’re only got a foretaste of that great glory Divine which shall be revealed at His second coming. All sickness and sorrow will be done away with, then we’ll have a body like His Own glorious body, for we shall see Him as He is. Here as we look at our hands a withering, our hair’s turning gray, and shoulders stooping; we’re aware that we are mortals and headed towards the dust from which our heads are bowed now, and where we come from. But, Lord God, just as sure as You are God, You made a promise that we’d be raised up again in the last days, and we believe it. 1-3 Solemnly we stand with our faith tonight in Thy Presence, coming with boldness because that Jesus bid us to do it. Not upon any good thing that we have done, for we’ve done nothing right; but we come humbly, professing that we own this treasure because of His grace that’s been ‘lotted to us. Therefore, we come asking that You’ll bless us tonight in the bringing forth of the Word. For it is written that “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” And let the mouth of God be spoken tonight. Let the words come forth, and may It go deep into the hearts of we, the listeners, and be filled with Thy Spirit and Thy Presence. For we ask it in Jesus’ Name. Amen. 1-5 To–today and yesterday–last night, rather, and today we have been speaking on the subject, first to head it up, “Why We Are Not a Denomination,” and we have made it rather strong why we’re not a denomination, and why we do not believe in denominations, because we find it in the Bible that denominations was never ordained of God. It was ordained of the devil. And proved it by the Bible. And how that through denominations brings forth error. Now, we’re saying this to correct and to bring this tabernacle into a fellowship around the blessed Word of God. That our hopes was not built in what denominations says, or what any man says, it’s built upon what the Lord God has said. That’s the only way we can ever be corrected right. 2-1 And this morning I had five (I believe) different articles that’s come out through denomination that’s absolutely not spoke of in the Bible, that the Protestant churches are bowing down to and teaching for doctrine the same thing that the old mother prostitute Catholic church preaches. And come out into the Protestant church, and we bow to the same thing, which is contrary to anywhere in God’s Word. 2-2 The first denominational church… We looked it up this afternoon in the “Nicene Fathers,” history of the Nicene church. After the death of the apostles, there what come the Nicene fathers, and they went on for several years (three hundred and twenty-five years) finally came to–to Nicaea, France, where they had the–the great Nicene council. And in there they formed these dogmas that the Catholic church has now, and also that’s handed down to the Protestants. 2-3
Death and Hell Adventists, like Jehovah Witnesses, believe in soul sleep and do not believe in hell. Note how they have changed the word of God to fit their theology.Isaiah 66:24 KJV – And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.CW – They will see the dead bodies of those who have rebelled against me lying outside the city. It will be an abhorrent sight. But just as worms don’t stop until they devour the dead and fire doesn’t stop until it destroys, so the fires of the Lord will destroy the wicked and consume them all. Note – Christ quotes this verse on several occasions. Never, however, does He give this interpretation. Rather, He uses it as a description of hell.6 A similar change can be seen in Matthew 5:22, 29, 30, where the CW changes “hell fire” to “lose eternal life”. Matthew 10:28 KJV -And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.CW – Don’t be afraid that you might be killed. They can kill your body but not your spirit or your loyalty to me. Now if there is some thing to be concerned about, it’s that you don’t lose your faith in God. Note – The CW deletes the segment referring to eternal damnation, and instead alter the text to make it solely an exhortation to retain one’s faith in God. Matthew 18:9 KJV -And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.CW – If, for example, your eye places a wrong value on things, be willing to lose your eye to keep your moral innocence. If you have to make a choice, it’s better not to be great in this life and yet live forever than to lose your childlike innocence and have everything end with this life. Note – Not only does this verse do away with “fiery hell” but it also inserts “moral innocence” and “childlike innocence,” neither of which are mentioned in Scripture. Luke 16:19-30
This is the familiar parable of Christ about the rich man and Lazarus. The CW introduces teaching with these words: “You keep telling people the Jewish fable about a rich man.” The revision makes it appear that Christ is refuting a Jewish myth, when in reality is proclaiming the spiritual truth of the parable. One can readily see how this “Bible” which proclaims by its title, Clear Word, to be an accurate rending of Scripture is perhaps, one of the most deceptive Bibles of recent times. For 150 years Seventh-day Adventists have called the Roman Catholic Church “the beast” for allegedly omitting 2 verses of the law against images. Yet they have now made hundreds of revisions in their Bible.7 Each addition is itself an admission to some part of their teaching that lacks Bible support. Each deletion and change likewise admits to some part of their teachings which the Bible refutes. These changes are made to uphold E.G. White’s nonbiblical views. However, by committing this which God, they place themselves above God Himself. In Revelation 18:4 God calls His people to come out of Babylon, “That ye receive not of her plagues.” “Babylon” pictures false religion and false religious practices. Any church that would alter God’s word which He says is “forever settled in heaven”, or promote a Bible which does, is thus part of Babylon the Great, which is fallen. If you love Jesus, obey His call to “come out of her”! 1 Fundamental Beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists [Online]. URLhttp://www.adventist.org/pages/frameset_belief.html. 2 Psalm 12:6; John 17:17 3 Romans 1:25ff; Ezekiel 5:6; Revelation 22:18,19; 21:8 4 Fundamental Beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists. Emphasis added. 5 See Dale Ratzlaff, Sabbath in Crisis, (Sedona, Az: Life Assurance Ministries,1990), pp. 233-248 for a full exegesis of this text. 6 Mark 9:38-48. 7 The Clear Word was printed by the Review and Herald Publishing Association and is sold in Adventist Book Centers throughout the country.
I have never seen such junk in all my life. I know that they are all Hell-Bound now. Tweety
The Clear Word Bible: Is It the Word of God?
By Dale Ratzlaff and Verle Streifling
The Seventh-day Adventists express a firm belief in the authority and inerrancy of Scripture. Their statement of beliefs claims, The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration through holy men of God who spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to man the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God’s acts in history.1
Despite this affirmation of the character of the Bible, the SDA Church demonstrates a different approach to Scripture in its popular Clear Word Bible. The many changes made to the biblical text in the Clear Word Bible are ultimately destructive to the integrity of God’s Word.
The gravity of deliberately changing the meaning of God’s word cannot be overemphasized. Psalm 138 equates the sacredness of God’s Word with His holy name: “Thou hast magnified Thy word according to all Thy name.” Deuteronomy 4:2 says, “Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it.” Proverbs 30:5, 6 reiterates this point: “Every word of God is pure.Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.” Since God’s Word is pure and truth,2 any changes to His Word will ultimately change the truth of God into a lie, with disastrous consequences.3
Christians should inquire as to why anyone would want to make numerous additions, deletions and changes to God’s word. True, some Christians allow paraphrases that interpretively present God’s word in order to make it plain for the current generation. What is indicated, however, when a paraphrase deliberately revises God’s Word? The belief that additions, deletions and changes need to be made is a clear sign of doctrinal weakness. This article will show that The Clear Word Bible has changed God’s Word so that it supports Adventist doctrines in general and writings of their prophetess, Ellen G. White, in particular. Her writings are still held by the SDA church to be “a continuing and authoritative source of truth.”4 Following are just a few examples where the Clear Word Bible alters the statements of Scripture to make it line up with Adventist theology. To illustrate this assertion, several passages in the CW (The Clear Word Bible) will be compared with the KJV (King James Version or Authorized Version).
Seventh day Sabbath
Adventists teach that observing the seventh-day Sabbath is the seal of God and will become the final test of loyalty to Christ for all Christians.
Genesis 2:2-3
KJV – And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
CW – Then on the seventh day of creation week, God stopped to enjoy what He had made and to rest in the beauty of it all. So He blessed the seventh day and set it apart as a day of spiritual refreshment and joy.
Note – The CW makes the seventh day part of “creation week” rather than the celebration of a finished creation.
Exodus 5:5
KJV -And Pharaoh said, Behold, the people of the land now are many, and ye make them rest from their burdens.
CW – You’ve created enough problems by making them rest every week on your Sabbath.
Note – The CW describes the rest as occurring every week on the Sabbath, whereas in reality Moses requested an isolated three day period in which the Israelites could worship God (see verse 3 in the KJV).
Exodus 16:5
KJV – And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.
CW – On the sixth day they should gather twice as much as on the other days so as to have enough for the seventh day, which is the Sabbath, the day I set aside for worship and rest.
Note – The addition “which is the Sabbath, the day I set aside for worship and rest,” does not appear in any biblical manuscript.
Exodus 31:13-14, 16
KJV -Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people …Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
CW – Say to the people, “Most importantly, remember to keep the Sabbath holy because it is a very special day for me, and it’s a day of rest for you. It’s a sign between you and me for all time to show that you are the people whom I have chosen and set apart. The Sabbath is holy and anyone who desecrates it by working on that day will be put to death, since that would be an act of treason against God’s government. My people are to keep the Sabbath, celebrating it as a sign that they belong to me.”
Note – The CW purposefully revises the text to make it appear that the Sabbath is intended for all people, not just for Israel, as the Bible teaches. In verse 13 it changes “children of Israel” to “people” and in verse 16 it changes “children of Israel” to “My people,” and “a perpetual covenant” to “a sign that they belong to Me.” To justify making the Sabbath observance a universal requirement it also adds, “Since that would be treason against God’s government to verse 14.
Leviticus 23:3
KJV – Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
CW – There has always been the weekly Sabbath.
Note – The CW replaces the biblical institution of the Sabbath with the statement that the Sabbath has always existed.
Ezekiel 45:17
KJV – And it shall be the prince’s part to give burnt offerings, and meat offerings, and drink offerings, in the feasts, and in the new moons, and in the sabbaths, in all solemnities of the house of Israel: he shall prepare the sin offering, and the meat offering, and the burnt offering, and the peace offerings, to make reconciliation for the house of Israel.
CW – It will be his duty to provide these national offerings on all appointed festivals with their special Sabbaths, including the monthly festival of the New Moon. He is to bring grain offerings, whole burnt offerings and peace offerings for an atonement for the nation as a whole.
Note – The “feasts,” “new moons,” and “sabbaths” respectively signify the yearly, monthly, and weekly celebrations. The phrase is a virtual formula used in numerous places in the Old Testament in both ascending and descending order. In order to prevent the weekly sabbath from being associated with the whole sacrificial system done away with by the New Covenant, the CW destroys the word order to make sabbaths refer to the yearly feasts instead of the weekly.
Acts 20:7
KJV -And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
CW – After sundown on Saturday night, the believers got together for a fellowship meal and to say good-by to Paul. That evening he spoke to them until midnight, after which he hoped to get a few hours sleep before leaving early Sunday morning.
Note – The CW calls this a Saturday night meeting, changes “break bread”, a term used by the early church for communion, to a fellowship meal and to say good-by to Paul. Such revision of Scripture completely changes the focus of this verse to fit Adventist theology.
Colossians 2:16
KJV – Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.
CW – Don’t let anyone control you life by giving you a set of ceremonial rules about what to eat, what to drink and what monthly festivals or special Sabbaths to keep. All these rules were given as a shadow of the reality to come and that reality is Jesus Christ.
Note – Colossians 2:16 is a very important verse in that it shows clearly that the Seventh-day Sabbath is only a shadow of Christ. This verse should be studied in its context and also compared to its Old Testament parallel, Ezekiel 45:17 (above) When the terms “festival (or equivalent), new moons and Sabbaths are used together in the Old Testament the word Sabbath always refers to the seventh-day Sabbath. Also, these terms are usually used in either ascending or descending sequence: festival (yearly) new moons (monthly) Sabbaths (weekly) or Sabbaths (weekly), new moons (monthly), festivals (yearly).
These two well established patterns make it certain that the seventh-day Sabbath is in view in Colossians 2:16 and this fact undermines the whole SDA emphasis on the seventh-day Sabbath. Note how the CB alters both Colossians 2:16 as well as the Old Testament parallel text.
Hebrews 4:4
KJV -For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
CW – That’s why at creation He gave man the seventh-day Sabbath, not only as a reminder of creation week, but also as a symbol of spiritual rest. According to the Scriptures, God Himself rested on the seventh day and enjoyed this special time with man.
Note – The CW states “according to the Scriptures,” but then adds to the Scriptures such phrases as the “symbol of spiritual rest” and the “special time with man.”
Hebrews 4:9
KJV -There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
CW – So there still remains the offer of spiritual rest that God intends for each generation to have, of which the Sabbath is a symbol.
Note – The biblical manuscripts make no reference in this verse to spiritual rest or the Sabbath as a symbol.5
Revelation 1:10
KJV – I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day.
CW – On Sabbath morning when I had gone to the rocky island shore to meditate and worship.
Note – The CW adds the concluding clause to reinforce Adventist liturgical practices.
One can see by the examples listed above that The Clear Word Bible makes numerous deletions and additions, revising the Word of God to make the Bible teach what it does not teach: the Adventist doctrine of required universal observance of the seventh-day Sabbath for all peoples.
